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Vidu Thiru Namam:  continues....

1. A noseless snake charmer, thinks of a good time and goes
to an astrologer, to find out cure, but he found the astrologer
himself to be nose less!  Likewise, do not look for others'
mistakes in life when you have got a knap-sack of sins on
your back.  Pray to Arunachala, for all the cures of your life.

2. Without worrying as to how to conquer death and rebirth,
do not be spending time, by ogling at the nicely dressed women
around you.  Pray to Arunachala, who gives all that you need
for your liberation.  He is the Hill of Fire but also a Waterfall
of Mercy!

(Contemplating the Hill, as a column of fire and also a water
fall of mercy, this imagery has also been used by Bhagavan

3. Do pooja for your Guru. Collect for Arunachala pooja,
ghee, milk, coconut water and sugar cane juice and honey,
sandal paste and flowers.  If you do this Pooja, Arunachala
shall confer you all that you need, you O lowly dog!

to be contd.....

Arunachala Siva.

Vidu Thiru Namam:  Chanting Siva's names, continues.....

1. Do not be earning and saving the wealth in this life.
You will die like the honey bee, which preserves honey,
without any use, and dies.  If your wealth is not used
for giving alms to the needy, it will kill you like the sword.
Spend your wealth by eating nicely and giving away as alms.
Pray to Arunachala and be happy.

2. Stay in Arunachala, eat and live in Arunachala.  Apply
vibhuti on your forehead and pray to Arunachala everyday.
Seek His golden feet!  And that is the way for liberation!

(See Arunachala Mahamtmayam and Bhagavan Ramana's
poems, where He has glorified staying in Arunachala or
even thinking about the Hill from afar for liberation!)

3. The help of relatives are there only when you stand healthy
and live.  If you lie in sickbed, there is no one to assist you.
But, Arunachala will be of your help, at all times, whether you
stand in good health or fall in sickbed.

to be continued.......

Arunachala Siva.   

Please read the second (10) as (11):

1. O Arunachala!  We know now what will happen if we do
not pray to Unnamulai, your concorporate wife!   Do we not
know the story of Daksha who got killed, of his wife who lost
her ears, of the sun who has got his teeth knocked off, of
Brahma, who lost one of his heads, of Sarasvati, who
got her nose severed, and of the fire-god, Agni, who lost
his hands!

2. O fools, why do you not circumambulate the Arunachala
everyday!  You will conquer death and forget the mother's womb,
if you do it.  You will become as famous as the garland of arugam,
the grass, and the "konrai" the flower on Arunchala's chest.

3. If a pot is full of water, it shall not break and shall remain
like a pillar for ever.  But if a pot is full of salt, it  shall break*.
Be a pot full of water, and remain permanent in Arunchala's
abode, than a pot of salt, which shall break with worldly desires.

(* The pot containing salt shall break in due course, with the
acidity of salt eating the inner walls of pot.)

to be contd.....

Arunachala Siva.   

1.  O What avail of you, if you do not say, Siva, Siva, everyday
and think about Arunachala which is greater than Kailash?
Do you not know the stories of the spider, the elephant, Sivakosa,
and the hunter?

(The story of the spider and the elephant, has been already
posted by me.  The story of the Hunter Kannappa, who did
pooja in Sri Kalahasti, has also been given by me, once, at the
request of Sankar.  The story of Sivakosa is:  Sivakosa was a
brahmin boy, who was herding the cows in the forest at the
instance of his father.  In spite of having a good amount of
grass everyday, the cows were not yielding adequte milk.  The
father was puzzled and one day he went behind Sivakosa,
without the latter's knowledge to the forest.  He saw his son
doing pooja for a Siva Lingam, under a tree, after oblations with
pots of milk given by the cows!  The father found the reason for
cows not yielding sufficient milk everyday.  He kicked the Siva
Lingam and the pots of milk.  Sivakosa got angry and with his
sword, cut the legs of his father!  Siva appeared before him and
took him to His abode.)

2.  O Arunachala!  Having a deer in your matted locks and an
everflowing Ganga too, and when you have got a pick axe and
fire on your hands (The pick axe is to cut the deer and fire to
roast it!), why did you ask for the poor Hunter's roasted meat in
Kalahasti?  Is your appetite so unending?

(Hunter Kannappa's story, I have already given at the request
of Sankar.)

3. Why are you praying to multitude of gods who die at the end
of eons and take births at the beginning of every eon?  Do you
now know Aruncahala who is never born and who never dies?
Pray to Him and conquer your death and birth!  He is the merciful
God who gives liberation for you.

to be contd......

Arunachala Siva.       

1. O Arunachala!  When there was a little of roasted human
flesh on the pan, a little of that in the ladle and the remaining
on your food-plate, when you were dining, how come the
boy, Seeralan, come alive, when you called for him?*

(* This story appears in Peirya Puranam, or in Sanskrit, Siva
Bhakti Vilasam, a book about the sixty three saints of Siva.
This is the only book which was translated to Sanskrit
from some other Indian language!  This book is very much
liked by Bhagavan Ramana, and He has quoted a number of
stories of Saiva Saints, in His Talks, and Day by Day.  Suri
Nagamma also quotes in her letters about this book.  Sri
Ramanasramam has now published this book, both in Tamil and

The story of Seeralan is wonderful.  There was one saint
called Siru Thondar, who was feeding Siva devotees everyday.
One day Siva appeared before him as a sadhu and wanted to
dine in his house.  But Siva desired to have fried human flesh
as a dish!  Siru Thondar and his wife readily agreed, cut his
son Seeralan's body and made a human flesh curry for the
sadhu.  After the food has been served, the sadhu, Siva called:
Seeralan! come!  The boy appeared from the back yard and joined
the dinner!  But there was still fried humand flesh, in the pan,
in the ladle and in sadhu's food plate!)

to be contd...

Arunachala Siva. 

1. O Arunachala, who is the  controller of god of death (Yama)
and god of passion, (Manamatha),  why should people run around
for all sorts medicines and herbs.  You are the Medicine for all
our great ailment of this birth and death.

(The conviction that the Arunahcala Hill  or the Arunachala Lingam
in the temple, is the greatest medicine, is held by all poets and
Jnanis.  Bhagavan also calls the Hill, as "malai-marunthu", the
Hill Medicine in His works.) 

2. O fellows, I am telling you, if you hold on to the feet of
Arunachala, before your joints loosen up, bones break up,
before you have a non-stop coughing that shall smother
your body, before you take a stick even to walk, you are
saved.  If you do not care to do that, you are a sinner and
you are doomed for ever!

3. O fellows!  What is the use of bathing in Ganga and a hundred
other such rivers?  If you listen intently to Arunachala's name,
contemplate on the Hill or visit Arunachala once, all your sins
will be washed away and you shall attain liberation.  Go, go to
Arunchala and play your Conch Shell and cry: Arunachala!

(To see the Hill, or to even think of it from afar, Arunchala will]
confer liberation -  Arunachala Mahatmyam.)

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.     

Vidu Thiru Namam:  Chanting Siva's names:  (continues...)

1. In the dense forest, you gave milk to a baby-pig, which
was crying in hunger and could not even open its eyes. O
Siva!  I bow to you, who comes from Kailash swiftly to take
care of the hunger and thirst of devotees!  Arunachala, when
you are there ever willing to come swiftly, why should I ask
for food from others?

(In Tiruvilaiyadal Puranam, depicting the 64 plays of Siva,
there is a story, where a pig was hunted by a tiger, and the
baby-pig was crying without milk.  Siva came from Kailash,
as mother pig, and fed the baby-pig with its breasts. 

This story is also narrated by Saint Manikkavachagar, in his
Tiruvchakam.  The Tiruvilaiyadal Puranam, is a book liked by
Bhagavan Ramana, very much.  This book has been published
by Sri Ramanasramam.)

2.  O Arunachala, the One who has no desire and hatred, if
I garland with you Bhilva leaves on every Monday and pray
to you, Liberation will be conferred upon me swiftly.

(Monday is the most auspicious day for Siva.  People fast on
Mondays, place Bhilva leaves on Siva's image or Lingam in
their home altar and pray to Siva on Mondays.)

3.  People go to forest to fetch rare herbs and go to traders to
buy medicines, to cure their illness and lengthen their life span.
What avail?  Is it not adequate to pray to Arunachala everyday,
so that the greatest ailment of this birth and death  will be
cured by him?

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva. 

Ashrams / Re: Ramana Ashram
« on: September 20, 2008, 10:44:05 AM »
Dear Billbill,

I am glad you are visiting Sri Ramansramam, in a week's time.
A few tips, since I have gone there, in the beginning of this week.

1. Stay is possible in Asram's guest houses, (inside and outside
Asram) only with prior written request and their written permission.
Further, no one can stay beyond three days in guest houses.  For
a longer stay, you choose a hotel, (there are many with different
levels of comforts), the charges will be around Rs 400 per day
for a double room.  Only vegetarian food will be available on
extra payment.

2. There is no rain in T. Malai right now. The temperature is around
35 degrees celsius.

3. Regarding self enquriy practices:-  People are quite busy in
Asram.  You may have to patiently request them and wait for their
convenience.  You may also ask fellow pilgrims.

4. You can eat inside the Asram.  Their timings are:-

7.00 am - Coffee/tea
11.30 am - lunch
4.00 pm    - tea
7.30 pm  - dinner

Arunachala Siva.   

General topics / Re: "Let there be Peace."
« on: September 20, 2008, 10:32:06 AM »
Dear Mark,

Thank you.  I am a small pond, reflecting the Sun, Bhagavan Sri
Ramana, the son of Siva, matchless after Sankara.

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Indian Cuisine
« on: September 20, 2008, 10:29:15 AM »
Dear Non duel,

Today's receipe is Kattharikai-kara-kari. It is brinjal-heavy masala-

Please take about 1 kg of violet or green brinjals.  Cut them into
small pieces, after throwing away the 'head cap'  portion, which is
quite hard and is not tasty.  While cutting, cut the vegetable into
vertical pieces like you potato finger chips. 

In the pan, pour generous quantity of oil, and after it is heated,
add heavy quantity of garam masala.  Transfer the cut brinjals
into the oil base, keep on stirring it, till the vegetable is nicely
fried.  Put off the burner.

Take a smaller pan.  Pour a little oil, put a spoon of uddhin dhal,
two or three red chillies and mustard, fry it.  Mix this, to the
fried vegetables and further stir it. 

Add some curry leaves, powdered cordamom and clove pieces.
Heat it further for a minute or two. 

The kathari-kara-kari is ready.  This can be taken with rice, along
with fried papds or potato chips.  This can be taken as a side dish
for bread or chappati also.

Arunachala Siva.

Dear Gangajal and srkudai,  To add a few things.  Consciousness
is called "Witness", it is not expressible.  It does not 'see' in the
ordinary palance of the term.  It merely IS.  There is a typical
example in Tamil literature.  There is a theft at home, when nobody
is there.  But a lamp was burning at the house.  The Lamp is the
Witness.  The lamp does not 'see'.  Likewise Brahman is the Witness.
In the villagers, people often say that the god is the witness, when
there is no one else to prove their point.  When people who have
self realized, either with or without reading the books, they can
only express it in negative terms.  Neti  Neti, it is not this; it is not
this.  Because they cannot express it what is experiential.

I just now posted an example given by Tayumanavar, a 17th century
Tamil poet.  It is like a bride after the nuptial night coming out and
going to her mother straight, without telling anything to anyone. 
Even to her mother, she merely 'looks' at her and does not say anything.

What then, all the scriptures point out?  They point out the 'way'
only and not the 'destination'.  Words go and come back failing.....

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: "Let there be Peace."
« on: September 19, 2008, 11:25:58 AM »
Dear Mark,  Wonderful!  Yes, the experience can never be reduced
into words.  Lao Tse has said:  Those who speak, know not; Those
who know speak not.  In Tamil, they say:  'Kandavar Vindilar;
Vindavar Kandilar', meaning, those who have seen, cannot express;
those who express have not seen.'

Again, one Tamil Saiva Saint, called Thayumanavar, who lived in
17th century has said a beautiful example.  In the morning after
the nuptial night, the bride comes out of the room and she is
unable to express anything to any one.  Even to her mother, she
is not able to say anything and she merely, 'looks' at her mother!

Arunachala Siva.

Dear Raju,  During Daksha's sacrifice, Daksha invited every god
but not Siva and His consort Uma, who is also called Daakshayani,
she being the daughter of Daksha.  The quarrel between Daksha
and Siva arose, because, Siva married Daksha's daughter, who is
none else than Uma, in disguise as a Sannyasi.  Hence Daksha did
not invite Siva couple.  Uma pleaded to Siva, that she may be allowed
to go, because Daksha was her father, in that avatara.  Siva knew
that Daksha would insult her, but allowed to have her way.  When
Uma went to the sacrifice, she and Siva were insulted in the presence of other gods, by Daksha's act of not giving the preliminary obalations.
Uma, Dakshayani, dived into the sacrificial fire, killed herself,
and completed her avatara, and came back to Kailash.  Siva on
knowing the insult, and when even other gods were also there,
without telling the dharma to Daksha, came as Veerabhadra and
punished every god.  He killed Daksha, beheaded one head of Brahma
(and a goat's head was placed on his trunk! ).  He cut the nose of Sarasvati, the consort of Brhama,beat the moon, knocked out the teeth
of the sun, and broke the leg of Saturn.  He spared Vishnu-Lakshmi,
OUT OF GRACE, because Vishnu, earlier, while doing Siva Pooja, with 1000 lotuses , found one flower short and he had plucked his eye, (He is the lotus eyed god), placed it on the feet of Siva and completed the pooja!  Siva therefore is called Hari Netra Arpana Siva. (The god to
whom Hari gave an eye for lotus for pooja!)   Uma after coming to
Kailash, wanted to do penance for her misdeed, came to Arunachala,
did penance and got her merged onto the left side of Siva.  She is the Ardanareswari,half-woman, on the left of Siva, who is Ardanari.  This story is in Arunachala Purana and in Arunachala Mahatmyam.   

Bhagavan has shed tears while reading this Purana for His devotees!
Unnamulai and Annamalai, in Tiruvannamalai, are called, Arda
Nari and Arda Narisvara.  Saint Manikkavachagar sings in

Glory to Siva, who is half woman!  (Potri Tiru Ahaval - Glory to
Siva in Tiruvachakam)

Saint Manikkavachagar has also narrated this story of Daksha
sacrifice, in a poem called Tiru Undiyar (Clapping hands in
praise of Siva).  Bhagavan's Upadesa Undiayar or Upadesa
Saram, was composed at the request of Muruganar, on the lines of
Tiru Undiyar.  The metre is called Kali-Thazhisai, a type of three line
poem, in Tamil.

Arunachala Siva. 

Please read the second post titled (5) as (6).

Vidu Thiru Namam,  continues....

1. I may wear some attire.  I may leave it.  I may sleep on
a nice cotton bed. Or I may sleep on the hard floor.  If
I chant your name, Arunachala Siva, then there is no need
for this difficult austerities.

2.  You are my mother and father.  You are also the father
of Vishnu, who is the father of Brahma.  If I do not love you,
then, my mind can as well be made in iron.  If I do not see
your holy feet, then my eyes can as well become blind with
cataract.  O Arunachala Siva!

3. Where would the devas in the heaven have gone?  Where
would be Indra?  Where would Brahma?  Where would be
his father, Naryana.  If you had not taken the poison on the
historic occasion, all these gods would have been dead and gone!
O Arunachala Siva!

4. I pray to you, Arunachala, everyday!  You are giving several
vegetable dishes, with oozing ghee!  You are giving nice rice,
ghee, milk everyday.  You are giving sandal paste to my chest!
It is adequate, if I sing your glory in nice poetry, with a roaring

5. O Siva coming on a white ferocious bull!  You know my mind,
when will you end this life, where everyday, I sleep with tricky-
eyed women, get old and fall?

6. Who can equal you in valour, O Arunchala?   You snapped
the head of Daksha, left Krishna out of your grace, took poison,
fathered the mountain-like Ganesh, crushed the moon, broke
the teeth of the sun and the leg of Saturn!

to be contd.....

Arunachala Siva.

2. Vidu Thiru Namam - Chanting the Holy Name of Siva:-

1. O Arunachala Siva, Poets say that you have only several
arrows and one bower*. I do not believe.  You have got
only one arrow*** but several bowers in Chidambaram, Kumbakonam, 
Sri Rangam and Karuvur!

This is a poem of excellent imagery.  Siva has got several arrows
and one bower, that is, back-sack for holding arrows.  But
Guhai Namasivaya says, he has got only one arrow, but
several bowers, which is unnatural.  But that is the Truth.
Vishnu is the only arrow, in Tripura Samhara.  (Even that he
did not use.  He simply smiled at Tripura and it  was burnt.)
But the bowers are many.  The bowers are here several Vishnu
temples, such as Chidambaram, Kumbakonam, Sri Rangam and

2. O Siva, one knows that you are creating several worlds,
Brahma, Vishnu, the sun and the moon and billions of living
creatures.  Then knowing this,  why should he kill a living being,
for his daily food?

3. The spider and the elephant* prayed to day and night.
Even after knowing this truth, if one does not  pray to you,
what future would await him, O Siva!

(* In a town called Tiruvanaika, in Siva temple, a spider and
an elephant were praying to Siva daily.  Both were two kings
in the previous births.  The spider used to make a web around
the Siva Lingam and thus gave shadow.  The elephant, on seeing
the web, got angry everyday and smashed up the web and placed
a lotus on the Siva Lingam.  One day, the spider went into the
elephant's trunk, bit it and killed and in the process, it also got
killed.  Both were blessed by Siva.)

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.