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Dear Ramanaduli,

To overcome this marriage-madness duality,  Bhagavan Ramana
said:  You hold one thought first.  It could be anything.  For many,
He told ask "Who am I?".  For someone like Annamalai Swami, He
said: "Chant Siva, Siva..."  For one Ramabhakta, He said: "Chant
Rama Rama...."  All prescriptions are only to remove the mind-body
consciousness, at the end of which the mind curls up into the Self,
without any activity.  You become the Self or You are the Self.

Arunachala Siva. 

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Siva Rahasyam
« on: October 26, 2008, 02:22:13 PM »
Suri Nagamma says:

Once a long time back, Bhagavan Ramana was describing the
story of Sri Dakshinamoorthy avatara.  I also wrote about it
in my Letters.  At that time, Bhagavan Ramana had said that He
had read about in some books.  I did not ask Him from where He
has been telling that story.  The matter was left at that.

In April 1948, when Bhagavan was in Jubilee Hall, one old Gujarati
lady, by name Ms. Jiji Pratabharai Desai had come and she was
reading some book in the Hall and she left the Hall, forgetting
about the book.  I took it and found that it contained some Sanksrit
slokas and Gujarati commentary.  I gave that to Bhagavan and
looked at the book for some time.  He then looked at me and said:
"See, you wanted to know a long time back, where the detailed story
of Sri Dakshinamoorthy avatara comes.  This is that book.  This
is Siva Rahasyam, and the story comes in Canto X, Chapter 2."
I took the book and made some jottings in my note book. I returned
the book to the Gujarati lady in the evening.

When devotees discuss spiritual matters, the necessary references
always come to them through Bhagavan in some unknown ways!
This is one more incident of that nature!

(Credits: Sri Ramansramam - Vazhvum Ninaivum - Tamil,
                 Suri Nagamma.)

Arunachala Siva.     

On July 18, 1949,  Cow Lakshmi's first death anniversary was
celebrated.  Bhagavan Ramana had already undergone two
sugeries, and radium needles had been implanted and bandaged.
Bleeding had reduced.  At that time, I was away in Vijayawada,
for some domestic work.  I was writing third and fourth volume of
the Letters, and the second volume had been ready for printing and
someone had offered to bear the printing cost.

While I was in Vijayawada, my sister in law was staying in my
room in Tiruvannamalai and she was going to the Asram daily.
Bhagavan, I believe was asking: "When shall Nagamma come?"
and was telling: "She will come for Anniversary of Cow's samadhi."

My sister in law wrote me about this and I started to Tiruvannamalai
by catching the direct train from Vijayawada to Tiruvannmalai.
I could reach Tiruvannamalai only around 7.30 PM on the night
of first anniversary celebrations of Cow Lakshmi.  My sister in law
was telling me immediately on my arrival:

"I went and read Cow Lakshmi story of yours, in the Asram.  Bhagavan was telling, "Cow Lakshmi left her body, on the hands of Nagamma!"
I became very happy and immediately rushed to the Asram and
met Bhagavan.  He said: "O! You have come.  I was telling that
you would come today!"  She rushed to Cow Lakshmi's Samadhi
and prayed to her with flowers and fruits. 

Visvanatha Swami came to me and said:  Bhagavan was telling
that you would come today.  You are like a daughter for Him."

I was feeling very happy and said to him:

Bhagavan's  words never fail.  Only His 'thoughts' have dragged
me here from Vijayawada!

(Credits:  Sri Ramanasramam - Vazhvum Ninaivum - Tamil
                  Suri Nagamma.)

Arunachala Siva.       

Suri Nagamma says:

If food-server is our man, then it does not matter even if we sit
in the last batch of food in a wedding feast.  Because, the food
server knows that we have not eaten and so would have kept
reserved the food for us.  In the Old Hall, devotees used to place
a towel or a handkerchief and 'reserve' their seats!  I had therefore,
necessarily to sit in the last rows.  One day, Satyananda Swami asked
me:  Where were you?  Bhagavan Ramana was 'looking' for you! 
I felt bad and went near Bhagavan and asked Him.

He was telling that the disciples should not make the Guru to
guess where they were.  They should be ready, nearby at beck
and call!  This is called Vanara dhrishti.  Monkey will just wink their
eyes and the other monkeys will crowd around him.  This is also mentioned in Vedanta books. 

(Source: Sri Ramanasramam - Vazhvum Ninaivum, Tamil
                 Suri Nagamma.)

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Vasanas and self enquiry
« on: October 26, 2008, 01:38:57 PM »
Once a devotee asked Annamalai Swami, about the vasanas
coming up one and after another.

Annamalai Swami replied:

Your thoughts arise on a moment-to-moment basis because
of your vasanas. But it is a mistake to think that you can do
nothing about them.  You can interested in them, or you can
ignore them.  If you show interest in them, they will persist and
you will get caught up in them.  If you ignore them and keep
your mind attention on the Source, they will not develop. And
when they don't develop, they disappear. 

In Who am I? Bhagavan compared this process to laying siege
to a fort, if you cut off, one by one, the heads of the thoughts,
as they come out of the fort of the mind, sooner or later, there
will be none left. The way to do this is self-enquiry.  As each
thought rises, you ask yourself: To whom does this thought
appear? If you are vigilant in doing this, the forest of thoughts
will lessen and lessen, until there are none left.  When the thoughts
have gone, mind will sink into its Source and experience that Source.

(Credits:  Annamalai Swami - Final Talks : Ed. David Godman.)

Arunachala Siva.       

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Sadhana amidst activities
« on: October 26, 2008, 01:22:23 PM »
Someone asked Annamalai Swami:

How can we keep up our sadhana in the middle of all our daily

Annamalai Swami clarified:

Ramakrishna was once asked this question, and in reply he gave
the example of a child who was playing by spinning round and round.
If you do this you will soon get dizzy and fall over, but if the same
child spins round and round while holding firmly onto a post or a
pillar at arm's length, the child's grip on the post, will keep him
upright and prevent him from falling over.  In this dizzy, spinning
would be upright and prevent frim from falling over. In this dizzy,
spinning world of samsara, if you hold onto the post of the Self,
you will be able to stay upright and not fall over.

(Credits:  Annamalai Swami - Final Talks - Ed. David Godman.)

Arunachala Siva.

Once a devoee asked Annamalai Swami:

Swami!  In order to do self enquiry, we have to use the mind,
which is mostly troublesome, and in reality does not even exist.
Why is this?

Annamalai Swami clarified:

The mind which we use for self enquire is the pure mind,
the sattvic mind.  By using this sattvic mind, we do self enquiry,
to remove the impure mind, which is rajas and tamas.  If you
keep on doing self enquiry, with the sattvic mind, ultimately,
this sattvic mind will be dissolved in the Self.

(Credits:  Annamalai Swami - Final Talks - Ed. David Godman.)

Arunachala Siva.   

Dear S. Subramanian,

The fear is a natural phenomenon for one who is trying to quieten
the mind.  Mind means thoughts, so the quiet mind brings a sensation
of emptiness and one gets immense fear, because we think that
our mind is gone mad!  I had this fear, and I had to chant several
times Arunachala Siva. Arunachala Siva, to get back to my stupid
'self'.  Certain occasions, I had felt I had no body or the body had
become totally weightless, like a bird's wing.  This also gives
terrific fear, because you want to 'feel weight and for this, have a
body.'  This mind-body demon will not leave us easily.  Go beyond
all these fears, since Bhagavan Ramana is with us during our
'sadhana', ever present and guiding us.

Arunachala Siva. 

Dear David,  Kindly do no say that you do not find "one hour."
You can reduce your sleep by one hour.  For sometime, the
mind-body may not cooperate.  But constant practice will help,
to reduce the sleep by one hour and spend that one hour for

Dear ..pri, the Japa, as you have correctly said, is only to keep
the other thoughts at bay.  This could mean setting right the canal
of thoughts, deepening or broadening for flow of water. 

Arunachala Siva.

Dear Ramanaduli,

Mental Japa alone is sufficient.  Wherever we are, we are carrying
our body.  Is it not?  We have a mouth to chant.  Again to say
that you are in US and cannot do idol worship.  Why?  Are you
not finding your own type of food in US to eat?  Why not then, a little
water and a few flowers?  If jasmine, bhilva and tulsi are not
available, you may have roses in US.  You may have, instead of
usual dry grapes and plantains as in India, apples and berries.
These will do.  Please pursue.  If you have gone past such idol
worships, mental japa, then,  is adequate.

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: sage Kapila
« on: October 26, 2008, 12:43:00 PM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Kapila is a born Jnani and he teaches the self knowledge to his
mother, through Sankhya Yoga.  This is different from Advaita,
a different path, which ultimately merges in nonduality.  I shall
post the full story after referrring to Yoga Vasishtam, later.

Arunachala Siva.

Dear ushanpri,

You said it.  Avan arulalale avan thal vanangi... says Tiruvachakam.
We can reach God (here feet are mentioned), only when God wills it.
Upanishads say:  Brahman can be attained only when Brahman
chooses you.  This happens when one starts feeling that the world
is unreal and one's own activities are futile.  At that stage one
starts working out, "Who am I?"  The search starts.

Arunachala Siva.   

Dear Dr. Raju and srkudai,

The concept of purifying or cleaning the mind is again getting into
our discussions.  SRKUDAI, you wanted whether Annamalai Swami
has been told about this by Bhagavan Ramana.  Yesterday was a
total low voltage day, and I could not open the internet.   This gave
me chance to start the new 8 volume book and also read Annamalai
Swami connected books. 

Bhagavan Ramana has told this on one occasion:-

"Then, Bhagavan Ramana looked at a child and said: If one could
keep the mind clean (or pure), then only one can get the Anandam
of Brahman."

I leave members to make their own conclusions.

(Credits:  Sri Ramana Ninaivugal - Tamil, Sri Annamalai Swami.)

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: What is real tapas
« on: October 26, 2008, 12:25:35 PM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

As Dr. Raju said the story of Rajasthan women and the story of
Narada told by me earlier are all pointers to the concept of awareness.
In the beginning, no doubt, any external force can disturb you.
By continuously withdrawing back to meditation, one can bring
the mind to the one thought.  As Bhagavan said, this one thought
will also vanish at the end, by constantly enquiring your real nature.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: saint Manikkavachakar
« on: October 26, 2008, 12:16:00 PM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

I am sorry, I could not reply immediately, since there were low
voltage supplies on whole of Saturday and today upto 1.00 p.m.
Saint Manikkavachagar, has lived around 3rd century, before
the other three major saints of Saiva Canon.  There are also
theories that he lived after the three major saints.  He was a
Brahmin and was the minister in Pandya King's court.  The Pandya
King is Varaguna Pandyan.  He sent Manikkavachagar to South
East coast to buy horses from Arab merchants.  This place is
near Ramesvaram and when he went to a coastal town called
Uttara Kosa Mangai.  There he saw an Effulgence of Siva and
who guided him to Tiru Perun Thurai, another place, slightly
northwards.  There  he came across the Siva Lingam, called
Avudaiyar.  He became enthralled and spent all his money that
king had given for buying horses, to build a temple.  There,
he started singing Tiruvachakam, the first song of which is called
Siva Puranam.  It starts as Namasivaya Vazhga, Nathan Thal Vazhga,
Imamip Pozhudum en nenjil neengathan thal vazga.  "Glory
to Namasivaya, Glory to my Master's Feet!  Glory to the one who
never leaves my Heart even for a batting of the eyelid!"

Dear Ramanaduli, this story will run to several posts.  Emotions
run wild.  Let me continue.

Arunachala Siva.