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Dear srkudai,

Yes. I now remember the story.  But this is perhaps only to highlight
his Cosmic Consciousness, that he "feels" all the living beings within
him.  Perhaps the fish eating is causing some trouble, yes.

Arunachala Siva.

Vishnu while doing pooja with lotus flowers, found one lotus short,
and he plucked his eye which is kamala netra, pundarika aksha, and
he finished his pooja.  Siva did not ask for his eye.  Vishnu offered
his in liue of one lotus.  Siva commended his bhakti and gave him
the Chakra.  This is the story.  This comes also in Tiruvachakam.
Siva in that temple, is called Netra Arpana Isvarar.  On another
occasion, Siva had a curse, because he killed several fellows in
Daksha Yagna.  So Siva was asked to do penance to Vishnu and
he did and it was in a Vishnu temple and Vishnu in that temple
is called Hara Sabha Vimochakar.  Both the temples are in
Thanjavur District, in Tamil Nadu.

Kannappa's case was different.  Siva 'acted' as if He has got
bleeding eyes to test Kannappa.  Kannappa's bhakti became well
known through his sacrfice of both the eyes. Manikkavachagar
is never tired of praising Hunter Kannappa.

There is a Ninda Stuti about Siva's three eyes.  I think I have
written about this already.  One saint poet asks Siva:  What is
great about you?  You have got 3 eyes of which one and a half
eyes belong to my Mother Unnamulai.  The rest is only one a half
eyes.  Even in that, one eye has been given by Kannappa.  You have
in reality only one half of an eye which you can call as your own!
I think this is from Guhai Namasivaya of Tiruvannamalai! 

Arunachala Siva.

Dear Ramanaduli,

Great Brahma Jnanis were quite humourous.  The only difference
is that they were not digging at anyone else but to them only.
Once Sankara went to Kasi to meet Mandana Misra, an authority
on Vedic Karmas.  He was so great that even parrots at his doorstep
used to chant Vedic mantras.  He did not like Sannyasis, who leave
all karmas and do self enquiry.  So the door was purposely closed
when Sankara was coming.  Sankara, who is fully tonsured,
mottai in Tamil, used his powers and the coconut tree in front of the
house bent down and he climbed and alighted inside the house of
Manadana Misra.  The karma yogi became surprised and asked
Sankara,  "Wherefrom this tonsure head comes?  Mottai Enkiruntu

Sankara cooly replied:  "The tonsure head comes from the tree
of Anna, food."  

Food causes growth, all growth including the hairs.  Even if you
tonsure your  head, the hairs will grow only to be cut again.
But here, the tonsure head came from the Tree, meaning the
Coconut tree,  with the help of which Sankara descended into
Mandana Misra's house!

Arunachala Siva.  

Dear srkudai,  Your post.  Sometimes, yes, the overzealous devotees
interpose a lot of stories about their Gurus.  But the fact remains,
that Sri RK abhorred money as Bhagavan Ramana did.  About the
man walking on the water, I posted it soemetime back.  Someone
used all his raja yoga fruits just to learn how to walk on water.
Sri RK quipped:  " O, he wasted ten years of his sadhana for
one pica.  (the old pica, 1/192 of a Rupee).  Because the boat
man can ferry anyone across Ganga for that money.  Why learn
walking on the water?

Arunachala Siva.

One day, an old widow came and prostrated before Bhagavan
Ramana and sat at a distance.  Bhagavan Ramana looked at her
and exclaimed:  "O is it you?"  That lady became very shy and
wanted to hide further.  The devotees became curious and asked.

Bhagavan Ramana said: "She and I were living as neighbours
in Tiruchuzhi.  I used to be in the kitchen, more to pester mother
for some some eats than to help Mother Azhagamma.  People
used to point out this lady and say and I should marry her when
I grow up. One day that girl's mother said: 'O why should I
give my daugher in marriage to that fellow, who is always in
the kitchen wearing a koupina and doing odd jobs for his mother?'
Thank god, there was no marriage in my life!  If I had married
her, what would have happened to me?"

Everybody laughed at the mischievous humour in Bhagavan Ramana's

(Credits:  T. R. Kanakamma, Ninaivil Nirainthavai, Tamil.)

Arunachala Siva.

The girl's love is unrelenting.  She suffers from pangs of love
and her mother gets a suspicion about her daughter, "O What
happened to her?  Why is she like this, singing, crying and not
sleeping?"  The girl wants to tell her mother, her lover's glory.
But she stutters and somehow revelas to her about her lover
and the love.  This is the composition of ten verses, called
Annai Pathu, A Decad to mother.

Verse 6 reads:

O mother!  He is from Uttara Kosa Mangai, a town that cannot
  be comprehended, even by best thoughts!
He is ever living in my Heart, but He is not known
   to Vishnu and Brahma!
What a wonder is it, my mother!
What a wonder is it, my mother! 

Verse 10 reads:

O mother! He wears the konrai, the moon, the koovilam*, and
the unmattha** flowers!
His neck is dark and blue, due to poison,
But my mind has become mad with poisonous** love,
O He has become fully me!

(* Koovilam in Tamil means bhilva.  ** Unmattham is a flower,
which when consumed, one would become mad.  The poet puns
on this word, unmattham, and says he is wearing unmttham,
but I have become mad with love!)
Arunachala Siva.

The next composition is called Tirup Pon Oosal, meaning the
Swing Songs.  The girls sit on the swing and oscillate and sing
the glories of Siva.  This has got only 9 verses, and perhaps 1
or 11 verses were lost in time.   Muruganar also has composed
this Tirup Pon Oosal, in Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, on Bhagavan

One song is like this:

" We shall swing on golden seat, which is hung on pillars made of
   coral and pearls are strung as ropes!
   We shall sing the glory of the lotus feet of Siva, not yet   
   known to Narayana!
   He has given those golden feet to me, this lowly dog, from
   Uttara Kosa Mangai
   Let us swing and sing that golden feet which is full of bliss
   and taste like never-satiating nectar
   O let us sing his golden feet, O girls with eyes like spears!

Another verse:

"  He is the concorporate of Uma, dancing god of Uttara Kosa Mangai
    He is having konrai flowers with golden dust,
    He has chosen me the lowly dog, among the great devotees
    And he vanquished my birth without going further into living
    He has got dancing ear studs, O sing with love,
    O girls, with flower smelling oranmented breasts,
    Let us swing this golden swing and sing!

Arunachala Siva.       

Dear Dr. Raju,

You are correct. Even time is not there in Ajata Vada, Advaita of Gaudapada, Sankara and Bhagavan Ramana.  They speak about
moment-to-moment awareness only.

Arunachala Siva.   

Dear srkudai and Dr. Raju,

Yes.  Bhagavan Ramana once told His devotees, who wanted to
apply oils on his knees for rheumatism, "See, if you take very
good care of this like you do for your guests, then it shall remain
for ever.  Please forget it and ignore it.  If you pay less attention
to a guest, he will go away quickly from your house."

All Brahma Jnanis have said identical things in life.  Because
they are Brahman and there is nothing other than Brahman.

Arunachala Siva.     

Dear srkudai,  Brahman is not a Sadya Vastu.  It is a Satya Vastu.
All our efforts towards a goal are there  only to find that there was
never any goal!  Wonderful.

Arunachala Siva.

Dear srkudai,

Sri Ramakrishana's stories are superb.  The jackfruit story and
the girls spinning round the pillar are both from Him.  I still
remember His comment about scriptures.  When someone asked
Sri RK whether He had read Panchadasi, He said:  I do not
know all those.  I only know my Mother and what she tells me!
There is a book in Tamil, (must be in other languages) describing
Sri RK's various short stories.

Arunachala Siva.

The next composition, also sung in Chidambaram, is called
Tirut Thol Nokkam, that is Looking at the great shoulders of Siva!
Muruganar's Tiru Thol Nokkam, in Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai,
is also equally ecstatic!  This is a song of only 14 verses, perhaps
6 verses were lost in time.

One song runs like this:

"He considered all the prayers with a lot of worldly delicacies
     (like flowers, sandal paste, honey, milk, fruits)
Worthless and took the footwear, water from the mouth,
     and the roased flesh*
He loved them and graced the hunter, with all his heart,
O let us sing that Siva, let us sing his glorious shoulders!

(*This is a reference to Hunter Kannappa of Sri Kalahasti.  Saint
Manikkavachagar has immense respect for Kannappa and mentions
about his love in many songs of Tiruvachakam.)

Another song runs like this:

"O he was a harmless devotee, worshipper of Siva,
He is a faultless brahmin, he severed the legs of his father*
He was graced by Siva, and adored by all devas,
let us hold on to his feet, let us sing the glorious shoulders of Siva.

(* This is the story of Chandikesvara Nayanar, who is even today
    is the guard of all Siva temples, to whom we go and clap our
    hands after worshipping Siva, to tell the former that we have
    done our daily worship.  He was a young brahmin, who was
    given the work of grazing the cows.  He went to the riverbed,
    made a Siva lingam out of sands and did pooja and abhishekam,
    with the milk of these cows.  One day his father went behind
    him and finding that his son is 'wasting' cows milk for his worship,
    hit him hard on his back and toppled the milk pots.  Chandikesvara
    looked back in anger.  He took the stick nearby, which became an
    axe and severed his father's legs for the Siva-apachara.  God
    appeared and took him to His abode.)

Arunachala Siva.

Then comes the famous, Tiru Undiyar, the compositon of twenty
verses, called the "Game of Undipara."  Unidpara, is a game of
young girls, where they stand on their toes, and give a posture
as if they are jumping, and sing songs.  This composition speaks
about the Victory of Jnana.  When Muruganar composed about
the story of Siva, vanquishing the sages of Dharuka forest, who
believed that only Karma will confer liberation, he requested Bhagavan
Ramana to compose the last thirty verses as Siva speaking about
the glory of Jnana to the sages.  This was done by Bhagavan in
the same metre as Manikkavachagar's and this came to be
called the famous Upadesa Undiyar, the Upadesa Saram.  The
metre is called Kalit Thazhisai in Tamil, a song of three lines.
I have already promised to srkudai to post some translations of
Upadesa Saram, on the lines of the commentary by Sri Sadhu Om
and T.R. Kanakammmal, which I hope to do early.

In Tiru Undiyar, one song runs like this:

O how come Vishnu, who took the preliminary prasad* of the sacrifice
Was left unhurt and not killed by Siva?
It is a wonder, because he is the father of Brahma?**

(* preliminary sacrifice is havir bagha, which is given to priests
     before the commencement of yaga. 
  ** Vishnu was left because he is the father of Brahma, and
     Siva did not want to hurt both father and son!  Further
      Vishnu had plucked one eye of him, in lieu of a rose, and
      prayed to Siva, earlier!)

Another song runs like this:

He hurt the nose of Sarasvati, he snapped one of the heads
    of Brahma
He smashed the face of Soma, the moon,
Why?  It is all to belittle and vanquish their egos!

Another song runs like this:

He saw the demon, whose chariot was stopped  and who
  came to life the Kailas!
He smashed  two times, five heads each!
He smashed two time, five hands each!
(All to vanquish his fattened ego!)

This about Ravana.   
Arunachala Siva.

There is one more composition of 20 verses under the title,
Tirup Poovalli, meaning "Plucking flowers for Siva."

One song runs like this:

He has shown the love that is greater than a mother's,
We are all futile, worse than the lowly dogs,
He has vanquished our births and he has ruled us,
He has thrown mud at our karmas, let us pluck flowers for him!

Another one runs like this:

He sat under the great banyan tree, which was in the north,
He taught the great sages and they along with all the devas,
Sing his glory everyday, let us sing his golden feet,
Let us pluck the "konrai" flowers with golden dust, let us pluck
  these flowers!     

Another runs like this:

He came in a horseback, entered Madurai and blessed me,
He has the effulgence which blinded the king, he is from
                   Tirup Perundurai,
He came as our ruler, we shall do odd jobs for him,
Let us sing his lotus feet, let us pluck flowers!

Arunachala Siva.

The next composition of twenty verses is called Tiru Chazhal.
"Faulting Siva!"  Chazhal means in classic Tamil, finding fault or
scolding.  This was composed when the saint was in Chidambaram.
Here the girls form two groups.  One group scolds Siva, pointing
out his funny and "lowly" characteristics.  The other group adores
him, with the same characteristics.  This is a wonderful piece,
not having any comparison in Tamil literature.  Muruganar has
composed one on Bhagavan Ramana.  I shall give a few translations
of Muruganar's poem later.

One sung runs like this:

O girls!  His temple is the burial ground; his dress is made up of
 the killed tiger!
He has no father, he has no mother, he is a lonely destitute!


O girls! Do not think that he has no father and mother and he
    is a destitute!
Beware, even if he has no father nor mother, (to support)
   if he gets angry, the whole universe will get burnt into
    powdered stones and ashes!

Another one runs like this:

O girls, he is a mad  chap, who stood as a column of fire,
whose feet and head could not be fathomed by Vishnu and Brahma!   


Beware, if he has not stood like that from nether world to the
    heavens and beyond as a column of fire,
How can Vishnu and Brahma leave their intellect and egoity?

(Bhagavan Ramana has said, Vishnu represents intellect
   and Brahma, the egoism.) 

Arunachala Siva.