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The Old Hall, where Bhagavan held His court for about 25 years,
is brimming with spiritual energy.  People come and sit there for
meditation for minutes to hours, in total Silence.  I spent some
time in this Old Hall for a few minutes on all the three days.  The
Old Hall is maintained as it is, without any modernization, with the
old types of windows and doors.  There is just one ceiling fan.
The large photograph of Bhagavan on the sofa, looks majestically
at the visitors.  I could remember of great devotees like Kavyakanta
Ganapati Muni, Muruganar, Munagala Venkatramaiah, the author
of Talks, Gurram Venkata Ramaiah, Devaraja Mudaliar, author of
Day by Day, Suri Nagamma, the author of Letters from Sri
Ramansramam, Kapali Sastri, author of Ramana Gita Bhashyam,
who came from Sri Aurobindo Ashram, to read the commentary,
in the presence of Bhagavan and take His approval, Visvanatha
Swami, who wrote Sri Ramana Ashtottaram and kings like
Mysore Maharaja and Cochin Maharaja.

I could recollect Cow Lakshmi coming everyday to see Bhagavan
and so also the squirrels and monkeys.  Siddhas came to see Him,
in the form of Light and even a leapord came!

I bought books worth about Rs 900.00, that is, within the budget
of my wife.  These inlcude Guhai Namasivaya Poems, Sri Ramana
Anubhuti and Sri Ramana Guru Prasadam and Sri Ramana Anubhuti
Venba of Muruganar. 

The Ashram has come out with a complete works of Bhagavan's
Talks and Teachings, which include abbreviated versions of
Talks, Day by Day, Letters of Suri Nagamma, S.S. Cohen's
Guru Ramana, Sri Ramana Gita, its commentary and other important
works.  The Collected Works have come up in 8 volume series in
English and 7 volume series in Tamil.  The English version is only
now available and the Tamil version is sold out.  The English version
costs Rs 1300 plus courier charges of Rs 250 within India.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.       

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Arunachala Pilgrimage -(4)
« on: September 17, 2008, 08:22:21 PM »
The peacocks and the monkeys in the Ashram continue to behave
friendlier than the humans.  They do not touch anything that is
not served to them.  When we gave plaintains to monkeys, they
were grabbing the fruits, without fighting with others.  The peacocks
were picking the roasted 'channa' seeds, with steady concentration,
thus teaching self enquiry of Bhagvan.

The Pali Tirtham, or Azhagamma Tirtham,  before Mother's Temple
and Sri Ramana Tirtham, after Bhagavan's Temple, two large wells,
aare still perennial, like Bhagavan's everflowing Grace.  They are
like that since 1922.

The heat in Tiruvannamalai is better than summer times.  But
power cuts in the town between 12 noon and 3 pm, make it
difficult to manage.  When I was sweating and fuming, I thought
I should practice, "I am not the body consciousness", much more

On the two mornings, I got up at 3 am, three hours before my
normal wake up time.  Upto 7 pm, I was able to manage without
coffee, telling prayers in the Morvi Guest House.  To walk inside
the Ashram, without footwear, which even Westerners do, is a
meditation by itself.

Arunachaleswara Temple in the town is well kept.  I could
see Gopura Subramnya Shrine and Kambathu Ilaiyanar Shrine,
inside the temple, where Bhagavan was staying in the initial months.
I was thinking about this young boy of 16, in 1896-1897, who had
practically one tumbler of rice porridge everyday and lived in the
everlasting presence of the Self. 

I went inside the Patala Lingam Shrine, where Bhagavan was
staying for about 30 days without food, without body consciousness,
with scorpions and jungle ants were eating His flesh.  Seshadri
Swamigal spotted Him inside the cellar and brought Him out with
the help of others.  The same Patala Lingam Shrine, in 1896,
was illkept, with broken pillars, spider webs and with no electricity.   The photograph of the Shrine around 1900, will make any Bhagavan's
devotee cry.

I could get one hold of one new book in Tamil, which gives all the
542 available Tamil poems of Guhai Namasivya, a great Siddha.
He lived in a Cave, which is called Guhai Namasivya Cave today.
A few separate posts on Guhai Namasivya's poems.

I went around the Hill by car, a poor apology for Giri Valam.  I
could see all the 8 Siva Lingams, around the Hill.

Arunachala Siva.               

Dear Raju,

I am delighted to see your post.  I am covering your points
in the subsequent posts.

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Arunachala Pilgrimage - (3)
« on: September 17, 2008, 07:16:16 PM »
I had food in the Ashram, for about 4 to 5 sessions.

On one of the sessions, we were served Morkozhambu and
Unripe Plantain curry.  Payasam, (the sweet porridge), papads
and rasam, (light chilly gravy) were always there.  This Mor Kozhambu,
(see my receipe), was beyond description, a preparation that
the angels would stand in queue to take.   On another day,
there was Onion Sambhar (rich gravy) and greens curry.   My wife
said that these excellent Mor Kuzhambu, Sambhar, and rasam,
have not even been prepared so far by her in our family life.

I could see a number of Westerners sitting in deep meditation in the Old

They were also eating the food, without spoons and chopsticks,
with great relish.  They were taking tea on stainless steel tumblers,
like any Indian.

About persons whom I did not meet.  Smt Kanakammal, who
was Muruganar's disciple and  who wrote detailed Tamil commentary
on Bhagavan's works, is not well and she could not come to the
Ashram.  Robert Butler, I am told, was not in town.  Robert
Adams has merged with Bhagavan.  Michael James, I could
not check up.  Prof K. Swaminathan, a great Gandhian and
Bhagavan's devotee, who has translated Sri Ramana Sannidhi
Murai and Guru Vachaka Kovai in English, has merged with
I also went to Sri Arunachala Ramana Ashram of Sri Sadhu Om.
I prayed in his samadhi.  I also visited Sri Seshadri Swami's

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Arunachala Pilgrimage - (2)
« on: September 17, 2008, 06:48:03 PM »
I met some interesting people in Tiruvannamalai.

One Sri Kumar, an aged man, a Keralite, had come all the way
from Tirunelveli.  He is working as a store keeper in a cement
godown.  He was attracted to Bhagavan, after reading Paul
Brunton, about 25 years back.  Bhagavan had made him to
continue in the job, even after a formal retirement, given him
just adequate money for the family.  He comes once in a while,
in bus, travelling about 30 hours, one way.  He says he has
got immense peace with Bhagvavan's guidance in his life.  He
has not amassed wealth.  But his needs are always met.  He
has read a few books in Malayalam, on Bhagavan and does spend
a lot of time in meditation.  He has turned a vegetarian since 20
years.  He says his able to feel the 'unbearable lightness of the
Being" in his life.

I met one young boy from Andhra Pradesh, aged about 24,
working as a software engineer.  His name is Jalandhar Reddy.
He says he has been attracted to Bhagavan since a last few years.
He is reading Be as You are, of David Godman, a Telugu translation.
He says that his work has never been a problem and is having
peace in workplace, home and in life.

I met David Godman, after telephoning to him.  He came in the
evening during Arti time, to the Ashram.  He spoke to me for
about 10 minutes and said:  "Please keep your hold on Bhagavan,
without leaving at any time..  Read books and attend to all the work in
life, keeping Him in the Heart."

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.   

Dear everyone,

I had been to Tiruvannnalai, and was there from 15th instant, 9.30 AM
to 17th instant 2 PM.  It was an excellent trip, with a lot of heart
warming news.  To put them briefly, (details subsequently):

1. I could sit in the Old Hall and the New Hall and also in
Mother's Temple, spending time peacefully.

2. I had excellent tea and food in Ashram.  Non duel, Mor
Kuzhambu was also there.

3. I met unknown devotees and already known devotees like
David Godman.  Graham Boyd was not in town.

4. I could visit Annamalai Swami's Samadhi, in Palakottu.

5. I could purchase books like Ramana Jnana Bodham, a few volumes,
Sri Sadhu Om's commentary on Arunachala Pancharatnam,
Upadesa Saram and Ulladu Narpadu, David's "Annamalai Swami
- Final Talks," and A book titled "Ultimate Reminiscences", a book
about 160 devotees' experiences.  This is published by Ramana
Kendra, Hyderabad.

More in subsequent posts.

Arunachala Siva.

Dear srkudai and Raju,  Nice exchange of ideas.  I would like to
quote two things that Bhagavan Ramana said.  Papaji was not
impressed with Bhagavan during the first few meetings.  He went
to the Hill and meditated on Krishna, came back and said that
he was playing with Krishna.  Bhagavan said:  Okay Okay.  But
why don't you have Krishna in your Heart?  He is here and now
and is with you always.  There is no need to go the Hill to find Him.
Papaji understood this after a few years. More about that in my
Arunachala Pilgrimage, which was done on 15-17th instant.

Bhagavan also said about Pandharpur Chanting.  In Pandharpur,
women stand around a lamp and start singing at night:  "We
are going to Pandharpur, we are going to Pandharpur".  After a
thousand rounds around the lamp, in the early morning at
2 AM, they sing: "We have arrived at Pandharpur.  We have
arrived at Pandharpur."  They were in Pandharpur all the time.
Right from the early night.  At 2 AM, they have arrived! 

The question therefore is:  When do we arrive?

I want to write about Arunachala Pilgirmage.  There are a lot
of things to share.  One by one.

Arunachala Siva.       

General Discussion / Indian Cuisine - (5)
« on: September 14, 2008, 06:55:07 PM »
Dear non dual and others,

Today's menu is:  Mor-kuzhambu.  This is hot hot butter milk/
chilly gravy.

Take descicated coconut, green chillies, soaked toor dhal
and jeera and make a paste in the mixer.  Take good butter
milk, not very alkaline, in a vessel and heat it till boils.  After
boiling butter milk is ready, add jack fruit nuts, cut pieces
of either bendi or ash gourd and heat it again.  Check whether
the vegetable is soft.  Then, pour the mixed paste mentioned
above and stir it the compound nicely for a while.  The resultant
gravy is Mor-kuzhambu.  Add curry leaves for taste.  No masala
because the green chilly paste is there.

This is prepared on a few days in Sri Ramansramam.

This can be taken with rice only.  A separate currey may be
necessary as a side dish.

Arunachala Siva.

Dear srkudai,  About the intentions and not the act of the Zen
master,  one day, I was seen caressing a photo of Bhagavan
Sri Ramana, (the bust size photograph) on a book, and on seeing
me, my wife asked:  "What are you doing?  What are you telling
Ramana?  I answered, which was a truth:  " I am asking Him,
why not You apply some oil or thylam everyday on your chest,
so that the marks on your chest, (due to some ailment of the past),
can be kept wet and it will not dry up and peel off, causing pain
and bleeding!"  My wife looked at me curiously and asked "Why?
Does He not know Himself?"  I replied:  "No, may be Yes. But, I am
only telling Him, my intention and wish!"

Arunachala Siva.   

Dear skrudai, Nice story of Sri RK about the dog biting and chewing
the dry bone and enjoying the blood that was oozing out from its
gums.  One story of Sri RK, where He was exccedingly kind and
cool, was when Girish asked Him to cure His throat cancer, and when
He was doing nothing to cure Himself, Girsh said:  "You are believing
in a God, and if that god does not cure you, I shall piss on that god!"
Sri RK did not react in either way!

Arunachala Siva.

« on: September 14, 2008, 12:14:11 PM »
Dear Raju,  Your nice post.  For the sake of Prahlada, Narayana,
had to stay in every pillar of the palace, so that when Hiranya Kashayp
hits any pillar, He can come out!  Further, He also stayed in his Heart,
a place, which he never bothered to look in!

Arunachala Siva.

« on: September 13, 2008, 07:04:13 PM »
Dear all, Scientists, as a group, about 10,000 in number, have
tried to find God in the France-Switzerland border, by constructing
a LHC, a Large Hadron Collider (about 27 km long tunnel, the biggest
scientific equipment, so far, and beaming two protons (a sub atomic
particle, with positive charge from the two opposite sides of the tunnel,
at a speed of nearing the speed of light (about 185000 kms per
second).  The beams of two protons were travelling from the
opposite sides, whizzing past 11000 times a second and collded
to find out what is called Higgs Boson or Higgs Particle and
christened as God's Particle.  This Higgs Particle is supposed to
the most ancient matter, that occured immediately after the
Big Bang, the Great Sound, that caused the billions of gaaxies
of the universe.  This is called God's Particle, because it is
everywhere, but elusive to human detection, like God!  This
Particle is also responsible for anti-matter or dark matter, the
vaccuum that is said to be there in distant galaxies causing the
sucking of the other stars, into them, into the darkness beyond
compare.  The experiement is conducted by CERN, a European
Organization for Nuclear Research.  It is a French acryonym.
Stephen Hawking, the famous astro-physicist, Lucasian Professor
of Mathematics at Cambridge University, who is an agnositc,
has said:  "Whatever the LHC finds or fails to find,  the results
will tell us more about the structure of the universe, but will not tell
us about the God's Particle, which is the first cause for formation
of the universe!

So, there are scientists who are trying to find God, outside their
individual souls!  We in the Forum are trying to find God
within us, under the Greatest Scientist, after Gaudapada and
Sankara, (one man group!) by Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi!

More about LHC and Professor Stephen Hawking, author of
A Brief History of Time, in due course, if there is any response
for this post.

Arunachala Siva.   

Dear non duel,  Bhagavan Sri Ramana is the 'stranger'
who comes and gives us all one blow each, so that we
shall count for each blow once, and Eureka! the tenth
man is with us! 

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Indian Cuisine - (4)
« on: September 13, 2008, 01:08:59 PM »
Dear non duel and others,

Today's menu is, Pahal-kai-Pitlai.  It only means a thick gravy
done out of pahal-kai, bitter-gourd.  Bitter gourd has been a
medicine for diabetics from ancient days in India.  It is also a
vegetable for its anti-oxidant properties and is a killer of germs
inside the liver and stomach.

Cut the bitter gourd, into small pieces, and after removing the
seeds if only these are hard, otherwise it is not necessary,
soak it in cold water for some time. 

In the vessel or pan, place some tamarind paste and water,
and heat it up. Add necessary salt, jeera, corinander seeds,
turmeric powder,  and masala and allow it to boil.  After its
boiling, put the cut pieces of bitter-gourd and stir it for about
20 minutes, till the vegetable disintegrate and mix with the
solution.  Take one piece of bitter gourd through a ladel and
crush it with two fingers.  If it crushes easily, then it is ready.
Put off the burner and add curry leaves to the gravy and let
it cool.

Take a separate pan,pour some til oil, heat it.  While it is hot,
put mustard, red chilies and toor dhal and as the mustard seeds
start cracking, withdraw the heat. 

Add this to the gravy already prepared.  Reheat it for a minute
or two and serve.

This thick gravy called bitter-gourd pitlai, ( I really do not know
what pitlai is) and this can be used with rice, chaptattis, and
bread.  The gravy can be placed between two bread pieces and
taken as sandwich too.

Arunachala Siva.     

Dear srkudai,  Well written. It is the mind which is the engineer
behind all dualities,  sukham, dukkam, good and bad, pleasure
and pain, world and jive, god and man et al.  Sadhana is nothing
but fighting and killing the dualities.

Arunachala Siva.