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46816
Dear David,

Only one thing to add.  Bhagavan Ramana says in Who am I?:

"The thoughts will be coming forth as if some soldiers coming out
of the enemy's fort.  Keep on annihilating them.  Then, the fort
will come to your hand."

Fort is Heart Centre.  Thoughts are solidiers.  These enemies are
occuping the Fort.  Vanquish them one by one.

To have your chin smooth like glass, you have to keep on shaving.
One day, hairs will not spring forth!

Arunachala Siva.

46817
Dear Gangajal,

Excellent post on swadharma.  Why don't you start a serial on
Gita thoughts?  srkudai, promised one on Ashtavakra Gita, but did
not proceed much with it.

The Varnasrama Dharmam of Vedic Indians was mainly aimed
at alllocation of duties and not to create upper and lower echleons
of society and interse fighting amongst them.   In due course,
the Brahmins and the Kshkatriyas during the medieval periods,
because of their fattened egos started feeling higher than the others
and the class war started. 

But today, after all the eradication of caste system and making it
punishable under Law, what have we achieved?  We have created
new systems in plalces of old ones.  We have got politicians, cinema
actors, giant traders and industrialists like Ambanis, a powerful
unionised working class, who can go on strike at their will, taking
public interest to ransom.  We have got a Tata to build car factory but
we have got a politician to create problem in Singur!  We have got
new class systems of IT professionals who can spend Rs 10000/-
in a bar during every week ends, and we have got a government clerk
who do not even earn Rs 10000/- in a month!  Where are we going?

Arunachala Siva.   

46818
Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes all "kalas", arts are the learning process through the mind.
But the epitome of all these arts are the Godhead.  A good painter
can reach god through his painting.  A good sculptro can reach
god through his sculpting.  A good thief, through his excellent
thieving art, can reach god.  Remember Kabir Das story.  A good
sex monger can reach god.  Remember Arunagiri Natha.

That is why Sri Soundarya Lahari says, when Sarasvati was playing
veena, and when Lalita said, Good... Good...., Sarasvati stopped
playing veena further, because in comparison to Lalita's sweet
voice, the sound of veena was nothing!

Arunachala Siva.

46819
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Jnani"s action
« on: October 24, 2008, 11:53:37 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Jnani is Grace.  The Grace is ever flowing.  But you should only
make yourself a fit vessel to receive the large quota of Grace.
There is no need to go and ask him.   He knows what you want.
He knows what to be given, and howmuch to be given.  Go and
sit in his Presence.  Saint Manikkavachakar, says in Decad on
Melting, Kuzhaita Pathu, in Tiruvachakam,

You know all that I want.
You know to give all that I want.
You became rare, for Brahma and Vishnu, when they
    came to search for your top and bottom, (because there was ego)
You took me as your slave on your own will
You have blessed me without my wanting anything!
If I do not want anything that you have given
It is for you to decide whether I want that or something else!   

So your 2nd question is here answered:  If your deep prayers are
not answered by God, you have only to conclude that these desires
should not materialize as per His Will.

Arunachala Siva. 

46820
Dear Ramanaduli,

Rolling over the leaf plates, where others had eaten, etc., are all
to belittle your ego and make you more sublime in understanding
the Godhead.  Saint Manikkavachakar says in Tiruvachakam, that
he is like a blind-cow, going behind a herd of cows, reaching the
cowshed of the Master! If, Manikkavachakar says that he is a
blind cow, where are we, the useless felllows, to go?  What is
the way out?  As Dr. Raju, these are all for chitta suddhi.

In Siva Puranam, the first decad of Tiruvachakam, Manikkavachakar
says:

I am a slave, lower than the lowly dog!
But You are like a Mother!

Arunachala Siva.   

46821
General topics / Re: What is real tapas
« on: October 24, 2008, 11:33:02 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

We we continously meditate on the Awareness, like a thyla dhara,
the flow of oil, without any break, continuous, smooth and noise-
less, then that is 'tapas'.  One need not wait for a Guru from outside.
If one needs certain corrections, improvements, then the Guru will
appear to him, with or without his efforts.

Arunachala Siva.

46822
General topics / Re: does spiritualism change the person or his situation
« on: October 24, 2008, 11:29:33 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

As Dr. Raju said, the world will not change.  But, if we change ourselves,
by going nearer and nearer to the Self, the world will appear different,
full of bliss, since there is nothing other than the Self, and the Self
is Sat-Chit-Ananda.

Arunachala Siva.

46823
Dear Ramanaduli,

Anna Suddhi is purifying the rice with ghee.  The ghee is always
considered right from Vedic times, as a purifier.  It is offered in
Agni for sacrifices.  Sprinkling water around the plate by Brahmins,
is called Pari-seshanam.  There could be many reasons.  One is to
prevent the ants and other moving small insects from crossing
towards the plate. Or, it is again to purify the surrounding the leaf.

The other aspects regarding Naivedyam are not clear to me.

Arunachala Siva.

46824
Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes. You are right.

Arunachala Siva.

46825
Once some women wanted to cross Yamuna river and they met
Krishna.  He asked for all the dishes that they were carrying for
Durvasa on the other bank.  Krishna took them all and the
women were hesitating to cross the river, since the river was
full.  Krishna said:  I am hungry, let the river give way for you all."
The river parted and every one crossed.  On the other side of the
river, Durvasa was seen.  The women apologized that all the eats
had been consumed by Krishna.  Durvasa said, "I do not want
anything. My stomach is full."

Now, who ate the dishes and who did not eat the dishes?

Arunachala Siva.

46826
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Atma's Will
« on: October 23, 2008, 06:52:24 PM »
Someone asked Bhagavan Ramana:

It is said in Upanishads that One can know Atma, only if the Atma
wills it.  Why should Atma will ?  Why should Atma will only a
particular person?

Bhagavan Ramana replied:

When the Sun rises, all lotus buds do not bloom.  Only a few bloom.
How can we find fault with the Sun?  The buds cannot bloom on their
own.  The Sunlight is required.

The devotee continued:

Can we not say that Atma only places the screen around, can not
we say that it is only with the Atma's help, that one can remove it?

Bhagavan Ramana replied:

We can say that.

The devotee further asked:

Since Atma has placed the screen on its own accord, should not
Atma remove that screen too?

Bhagavan Ramana continued:

Yes.  But see to whom this screen is.

The devotee pursued:

Why should I see?  Let Atma take away its own screen?

Bhagavan said:

If this question is asked by Atma, then It can remove the screen too.
But for whom is this question?

(Source:  Maharshi Voi Mozhi, Tamil.)

Arunachala Siva.

46827
Dear Ramanaduli,

A Jnani is child-like and not childish.

Arunachala Siva.

46828
Dear Ramanaduli,

Reading, writing et al, just happen, in the Self.  If you are doing
anything 'without doership' and believe that the Self is just
doing everything, it is sufficient.  Annamalai Swami says that
only desiring for the Self is 'our doing'.  Even here, since you
are ever the Self, even that 'doing' just happens.

Arunachala Siva.   

46829
Suri Nagamma used to fast on Ekadasi, Sivarathri, Kartikai star day,
Monday and other such occasions.  Those days, it would so happen
that many proof readings of Telugu prints would come to the Asram.
Those days, Bhagavan used to do the proof reading Himself.  When
someone asked why Bhagavan had not given them to Suri Nagamma,
He would say: "O poor thing. She is fasting today!"  After sometime,
she realized that the service for Guru was more noble than fasting.
Even Kunju Swami had told her that Bhagavan Ramana would not
give any work to him on the fasting days.  He was shown the verse
3 of Ulladu Narpadu - Anubandham by Bhagavan Ramana.

One day, a devotee asked the purport behind such fasting.  Bhagavan
replied:  "All these things are only to control the senses.  In a
fasting person, the senses will be more subdued and will not go out,
and the mind will be non vacillating.  But best thing is to control the
mind.  Where is the mind? Where is the body?  Where is the Jiva?
It is all in the Self. Food alone does not make up one's determinations, thoughts.  The very "fasting"  of determinations, doubts and thoughts 
alone would control the mind.  Even otherwise we are the Self.  All
these ideas, are only to be in the Self.  If the Self is understood,
all food controls are unnecessary."

He also said that Sat Sangh is more sublime than the poojas,
sacrifices, abulations and pooja, bhajans, nama chantings,
which are only secondary in nature.

(Source: Sri Ramanasramam - Vazhvum Ninaivum, Tamil.)

Arunachala Siva. 

46830
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / The Grace of the Guru
« on: October 23, 2008, 05:32:23 PM »
Suri Nagamma's sister in law, was a very weak lady and several
times, when she wanted to do circumambulation of the Hills, Suri
Nagamma advised her against it.  In 1949, once when she had come
to Tiruvannamalai, she was very much interested to complete it and
even her husband (Suri Nagamma's brother) did not object to that.

That time, Suri Nagamma did not accompany them and the lady
went with some other people, with a car following for her help.
Bhagavan was of course telling Suri Nagamma in the Old Hall:
"They must have gone to Gautama Asrama. They must have
reached that place.  They must have reached this place."  Around
10 am, everyone including the lady retruned safe.  Suri Nagamma
was greatly relieved.

In the evening, Visvanatha Swami came to Suri Nagamma and told
her:  Your sister in law has not only gone for circumambulation but
also visited Skandasramam.  How true it is when they have said:
"Mookam karothi vachalam, bungkum langyathe girim.."* 

"With Guru's Grace, even a dumb shall speak and a lame shall climb
the mountain!  These words have been rendered true today in
Bhagavan's Presence!" 

* Srimad Bhagavatam

(Source:  Sri Ramanasramam - Vazhvum Ninaivum, Tamil.)

Arunachala Siva.