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46771
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Desika Padigam
« on: November 02, 2008, 10:52:36 AM »
Desika Padigam, of Muruganar, the first compostion on Bhagavan
Ramana, is a wonderful piece.  It appears as one of the decads
in Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, Song on the Holy Presence of Sri
Ramana.  Verse 3 has got a delightful description.  The verse reads:

O Guru, Ramanadeva, It is okay when you Siva, came down
to Tiruvannamalai,

You were hiding the crescent moon, the Ganga, and the third
    eye on your forehead!

You were hiding the deer, the hand drum, and the fire from
    your four lotus hands! 

You were hiding the honey laden Indian labumnum, on your
   tresses, it is all okay!

But how come, you are hiding the blue coloured poison* from your
   throate, O tell me, my Lord! 

(*All the others, viz., the crescent moon, the Ganga, the third
    eye, the deer, the hand drum, and the fire and the Indian
    labumnum are all your ornaments, worn on occasions, but
    the blue poison staying in your throat, is part of your Personality,
    how come you are hiding that even in this Avatara?)

The poison was allowed to stay permanently inside the throat,
by Mother Unnamulai, because, it would harm the living  beings
of the universe, if it is spitted out.  It cannot also go into His stomach,
because all the living beings inside his Space will also die.  Hence,
it is retained in the throat.  The third eye, which is also part of His
body, is shown only occasionally, as in the case of burning the love god,
but not always.  Hence Muruganar wonders why Ramana is hiding
even that poison in the thorat!)

(Sri Ramana Sanndihi Murai, 1998 Tamil edition of Sri
  Ramanasramam, translation my own.)

Arunachala Siva.   

46772
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Decad on Guru
« on: November 02, 2008, 10:18:09 AM »
Poet Muruganar came to Bhagavan Ramana, in the late 1920s.
He was a great Tamil scholar, particularly well versed in Siva
literature like Tevaram and Tiruvachakam.  He was sent to Bhagavan
Ramana, by his father in law Dandapani Swami.  Muruganar's
name is Subramania Iyer.  He composed a decad on Guru, wrote
down on a paper and came to see Bhagavan Ramana.  After seeing
Ramana for a few minutes, during which he started trembling, he
composed himself and started the song, Desika Padigam, Decad
on Guru.  He could not proceed beyond the first two lines, he became
speechless before the Silence of Guru.  Bhagavan Ramana asked:
"Why?  You are not able to read?  Give the paper and I shall read."
So saying, He Himself read out the ten songs.  This is the famous
Desika Padigam, the first ever made composition of  Muruganar,
which forms part of Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai.

The first verse reads like this:

O Siva, once you left the company of great kimburars, the
musicians, from the large peak of Kailash,

And came down like a Sun to Tiru Perundurai, to listen eagerly
the songs of Manikkavachakar! 

You have come down now to Tiruvannamalai, to listen
 to this uselsss words of this lowly blinking poet!

O my Great Guru!  Sri Ramana Deva, I am grateful to your Grace!   

The same Muruganar with his proflic poetic talents, made more fertile
with the rain of Bhagavan' Grace, composed 30000 verses on
Bhagavan Ramana's Life and Teachings!

(Source:  Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, 1998 Tamil edition -
   Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai.  My own translation.)

Arunachala Siva.

46773
I have said that the Feet are the seat of Brahma Jnana, of a Guru.
The feet are glorified by poets and devotees, in case of their gods
and gurus.  Muruganar's Padamalai, is an eulogy of Bhagavan
Ramana's Feet.  Manikkavacahagar has also written about the glory
of Siva's feet, in a number of songs in Tiruvachakam.  Particularly,
the two compositions done by him in Tiruvannamalai, glorify Siva's
feet, generously.

Saint Arunagiri Natha, has composed a long poem called the The
Glory of Beautiful Feet of Muruga, Skanda, and it is called Seer
Pada Vaguppu.  The poem reads like this:

O Muruga!  Your Feet rises from the emrald green ocean, as an
effulgence of a crore of Suns, at the time of beginning of the eon!

They appear in the Hearts of devotees, who meditate on Siva Yoga,
weep and go into a trance!

They go beyond the logicians of various religions, who argue,
it is there, it is not there, it is with form, it is not with form,
and stay in the Hearts of Jnanis to are speechless, losing their
minds and bodies.

They appear in the Hearts of the householders who pray to you
for escaping the samsara of wife, children, kith and kin!

They play on the chest of Uma the peacock of Himayalas, who
is the consort of Siva, wearing, Indian labubnum, Ganga, crescent
moon, in His matted locks!

They get the abulations of devas, who praise you, after they have
escaped the dangerous rule of Surpadma, the demon!

They play on the three worlds, which are crushed by your steps!

They compete with Ganesa* when you ran to cover the three
worlds, in a second to win the mango fruit from Siva!

They walk on the milltet fields, surrounded by tigers, elephants,
deerks and bears and oxen in the dense forests of Vallimalai,
where your consort Valli is guarding the millets from the parrots!

They stay guard for me, when the god of death Yama comes with
his whip riding on an ox!

They vanquish all my enemies, since I am leading a good path in
this life!

They are the summum bonum of all the Siva Jnanis who perform
great tapas!

They appear with your cry of assurance, "Why fear, when I am here!",
when the troubles and miseries burn the life of devotees!

They wear the garlands of various poets who praise you in their
songs as the Final Principle!

They are loved by your uncle Vishnu, who vanquished King Bali,
King Hiranya Kashyap, King Ravana and others.

O Muruga!  You are the one who could annihilate Tarakasura,
the darling child of Abirami, who is also called Vijaya, Tripura,
Abinavi, Uma, Unnamulai, Bhairavi, Madhura Vachani, Bhagavati,
Gowri, Trisuladhari!

Your Feet are in the beginning, the middle and the end of all
Vedas, full of fragrance, the King of the Hills, please show your
beautiful feet to me!         

(My translation of See Pada Vaguppu.)

Arunachala Siva.

46774
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Tiru Dasangam
« on: November 02, 2008, 09:42:36 AM »
As  I already posted in the past, Tiru Dasangam, means Ten
Attributes of God.  Saint Manikkavachakar has sung in Tiruvachakam,
a decad on Ten Attributes of Siva.  In a similar manner, Muruganar,
the poet, has composed two separate decads on Ten Attributes of
Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi.  These two decads are part of Sri
Ramana Sannidhi Murai, the Holy Presence of Bhagavan Ramana, a
composition of 1851 verses on Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi.  Of these
1851 verses, 30 verses of Upadesa Saram, is Bhagavan Ramana's
own composition.  Murganar, after this book, has composed Guru
Vachaka Kovai, A Garland of Guru's Sayings and Sri Ramana Jnana
Bodham, a huge composition of about 25000 verses.  Sri Ramana
Jnana Bodham, includes Sri Pada Malai, glorifying the Feet of
Bhagavan Ramana.

Tiru Dasangam, has been composed by Manikkavachakar.  Later,
while on the Hills, one K.V. Ramachandra Iyer has also  composed
a decad on ten attributes of Bhagavan Ramana.  Even, this Iyer's
poems, have been written by me in a separate post.

Muruganar asks :  What are the Ten Attributes of Ramana?

1. What is His name?  -    It is Paramatma!
2. What is His country? - It is the Space of Wisdom!
3. What is His town?  _    It is the town of  Heart Centre!
4. What is His river?   -     It is Time, which runs a crore of times
                                                         within a wink of the eye!
5. What is His mountain?-It is the mountain of Self Knowledge!
6. What is His horse?      - It is Consciousness of Swarupa!
7. What is His weapon?  - It is the sword of Silence!
8. What is His drum?       - It is the few words of the Self!
9. What is His garland?   - It is the scriptures of all religion which
                                                     praise Him!
10.What is His flag?        -  It is the flag of Sacrifice (of I and mine)!

This is in the first decad of Dasangam.
About the second decad of Dasangam, I shall post later.

(Source:  Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, Tamil, 1998 edition.)


Arunachala Siva. 

46775
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Radha madhavam
« on: November 01, 2008, 10:35:14 AM »
In Vaishnavism, the consort of Vishnu, Lakshmi, is always
considered as a thread between the devotee and the Godhead.
In Srimad Bhagavatam, there is no mention about the concept
of Radha, the eternal lover.  Only in Jayadeva's Ashtapadhi
and later works like Sri Narayaneeyam, the character of Radha
has got a place.  In fact, while Krishna married 16000 wives,
Radha is no one among them.  She remains as the eternal lover.
She is depicted both as a spinster and also as a married woman.

Radha is considered as Siva Swarupa.  It is again the union of
Siva and Maya, the Maya, here being Krishna, who is none else
than Uma, who is called as Narayani.  In Srimad Ramayanam
also, while Rama is considered as Maya, Sita is considered as
Siva.  It appears, that Siva wanted to spend some time with
Ravana who is a Siva-worshipper and hence Ravana's abduction
of Sita to Lanka!

Arunachala Siva.

46776
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Sri Ramana Panchakam
« on: November 01, 2008, 10:27:53 AM »
Kavyakanta Ganapati Sastri first met Bhagavan Ramana in 1903.
Again he met Him in 1907, when Bhagavan Ramana looked at him,
for about 15 minutes and transmitted the turth and thebliss of vichara marga.He also said:  Where the sounds of mantra, spring from and to where the sound withdraws back, that is the Heart-Centre, the place of the Self for vichara marga.  Sastri who is a famous Sanskrit extempore
poet, immediately composed five verses, called Sri Ramana Panchakam.
To our misfortune, the first composition of Sastri, is not available now.

(Source: Arunachala's Ramana - Ocean of Boundless Grace Vol.1)

Again, it was arranged that Kavyakanta Ganapati Sastri, would
read the 1000 verses of Uma Sahasram, a composition on Uma,
at the Arunachalesvarar Temple, at Tiruvannamalai.  Till the previous
night, only 700 verses were ready.  At around 8 pm, Sastri sat
in the Mango Tree Cave, and started composing the last 300 verses,
with four of his disciples sitting in front of him to write them out.
Sastri requested Bhagavan Ramana, to be with him in the Cave.
Bhagavan Ramana sat a little away in the Cave and was intently
'looking at' Sastri.  Between 8 pm and 12 midnight, the three hundred
verses were completed!  After completion, Bhagavan Ramana looked
at Sastri, and asked him, "Have you taken down all that I said?"
Sastri said, "Yes".

When Sastri made a number of changes in the verses of Uma Sahasram,
later, he made no alterations in the last 300 verses!   Sastri always
was telling that those verses were composed by Bhagavan Ramana
Himself!

Arunachala Siva.

46777
Once, when He was in the Hills, Bhagavan Ramana's bathing towel,
became so tattered that He had to hide in a hole in a tree without
anyone observing it!  Sesha Iyer, a devotee happened to see it
and feeling very bad about the sacrilege committed to Brahmana Swami,
he immediately brought some newones, about six, and Bhagavan
Ramana just took one!  Describing the bathing towel as one with
1000 holes, Poet Muruganar sung a composition in Sri Ramana 
Sannidhi Murai, Homage to the Presence of Sri Ramana, that "He
was wearing Indra, as his garment, because Indra is said to have
a thousand eyes.   The same was the position of his codpiece.  It
contained a lot of stitches to mend the holes.  Pazhaniswami on seeing that,  brought a new one to Bhagavan Ramana.

(Source:  Arunachala's Ramana - Ocean of Boundless Grace - Vol 1)

Once, when the famous Chengalvarya Pillai, a Muruga bhakta and
compiler of various songs of Tiruppugazh and a great Saivite Tamil
scholar, came to see Bhagavan Ramana and when Muruganar asked
him, what Bhagavan Ramana was wearing, Pillai saw Bhagavan,
and exclaimed that "the Self is wearing the Self as his codpiece!"
This is in line with a famous Tiruvachakam Song, in Tiruc Chazhal,
verse 2.  The verse reads as:

Oh my Father, my God, the god of all the gods,
Why is wearing a coupina, with a lot of holes and stitches?
Oh, He,the Self,  is wearing the four Vedas as the threads,
And a codpiece of the Self, with those threads, please see!

(Tiruc Chazhal, the Song of Scolding)

Arunachala Siva.

46778
Ashrams / Re: Living in tent in/near the ashram?
« on: November 01, 2008, 09:43:23 AM »
Dear friend,

The local sadhus and beggars sleep on the road and sidewalks,
constantly being disturbed by policmen and street dogs.  This
is the scene in many towns in India.

Arunachala Siva.

46779
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Death and birth
« on: November 01, 2008, 09:40:23 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes, Jnanis like Bhishma decided their date of leaving the body,
for the commencement of Uttararayna.  But dying on Ekadasi
day and getting cremated on Dwadasi day, could be an extension
of these ideas, perpetrated by Vaishnavites.  Chanting God's
name, while dying, is the idea of having a noble thought at the
time of death, so that the mind and pranana would go with that
thought for a better state.  Chanting God's name will not come to
one suddenly, at the time of death, unless he is chanting the names
at all times in his life.

Arunachala Siva. 

46780
Dear Ramanaduli,

Only one elaboration, on the last part of your post.  When the death
takes place, the mind takes the prana with it and goes away to take
a new "house" that is the body.  The Self is always there.  This is
explained in Who am I? by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi.  The only
state where the breath continues, despite the mind being quiscent,
is sleep.  We can add swooning state and kevala samadhi state  also to this.  This is also mentioned in Who am I?

Arunachala Siva.

46781
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: I want to become......
« on: November 01, 2008, 09:27:44 AM »
Dear Gangajal,

Thanks for elucidation on Brahma-bhutam state.  Saiva Siiddanta,
Sakta tantra and Vaishnavism also state one state called KAIVALYAM,
which is said to be very close to Moksham.  Advaitins use KAIVALYAM
and MOKSHAM, interchangeably without any difference. Sri Lalita
Sahasranamam says in one name of Lalita as "Kaivalya Pada dayini."
Kaivalyam, according to Vaishnavism is the state where Lakshmi,
Narayana's consort is supposed to stay.

Arunachala Siva.

46782
Dear Ramanaduli,

The Self is "experiential"  and It is not 'a feeling'.   When you
sleep well at night, you tell about the sound sleep only next
morning, when your mind operates!  You do not tell that you
are sleeping well, during sleep.  Hence you have to only 'experience'
the Bliss of the Self and it cannot be described in words or felt. I have
already written in some post, it is like the experience of union
that the newly wed bride has got with her husband.  She does
not 'tell' others, even to her mother who anxiously wait for the
bride to come out of the nuptial room, she only "smiles" and her
mother!  That is why, the Upanishads say:

Where the words go and come back failing!

Arunachala Siva.
 

46783
Dear Ramanaduli,

There is no day time Seer and night time Seer, there is no shift
work here, there is only one Seer, the Self.  Bhagavan Ramana
calls it:  Andham Ilak Kan, the deathless or endless eye!

What sees in the waking state is the mind.  What sees in the
dream state is also the mind.  What mind does not see, is deep sleep.
So, the mind is not permanent because the mind is not there in
deep sleep.  What is permanent is the Seer, the Self.

How mind sees in the waking state? For example, you know a
buxom young woman next door.  The door is closed.  You do not
see her with your eyes.   The bell rings.  The mind sees first.  Hence,
even before the door is opened, you see the girl.  Similarly, your wife
goes out to supermarket and comes back and tells you that she
has procured Rasagulla.  The pocket is not yet opened.  But your
mind is already seeing it and even before your taste it, saliva springs
from the mouth!  So is the case with music, a nice jasmine garland,
Intimate perfume, etc., etc.,

Arunachala Siva.   

46784
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / I want to become......
« on: October 31, 2008, 12:52:20 PM »
Most of us in this world sometimes think,

" I am poor.  I should be born a rich person in my next life!"

"  I am sick.  I want to be born a healthy fellow in my next life!"

"  I have done a lot of good deeds in this life.  I have to go heavan
     and enjoy the company of Ramba, Urvasi and Menaka!"

Why only very few people think:  "I want to be liberated.  or, I
want to attain the Self.  or, I want to be self-realized!"

This is perhaps, most of consider 'liberation' as something "not-
tangible"   No scriptures describe the state of self realization,
excepting to say, that it is Existence, Knowledge and Bliss, no
tangible things like heavans and riches and health.

Or perhaps, what WE ARE ALWAYS cannot be described, only what we
are not can only be described.

Arunachala Siva.

46785
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Sri Lalita Sahasranamam
« on: October 31, 2008, 12:31:38 PM »
Sri Lalita Sahasranamam, is a composition of 1000 Holy Names
of Sri Lalita, the Goddess.  This is chanted by many women folk
in India everyday or atleast on Fridays.  This is from a Purana, and
Bhaskara Raya, a Brahmin who lived in Tiruvidaimaruthur, a village
in Tamil Nadu has written a commentary on that.  This commentary
is followed by all devi worshippers.

The first three names attributed to Sri Lalita are quite significant.

1. Sri Mata -  The Mother - Goddess, the Godhead or the Self.

2. Sri Maha rajni - The Great Ruler, the Guru.

3. Srimad Simhasensvari -  One who sits on a lion-carved
    throne or one who rides on a ferocious lion.  This is the Self
    within, riding on your ferocious lion of mind!  Or even vice versa!

Arunachala Siva.