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Dear srkudai,  Exactly.  Play your role.  If you have to give
anger, give it without vengence, just to correct the other person.
Bhagavan Ramana very occasionally displayed mild anger.  Even
that was only to correct the other person but not to score a point
over him.  When someone in the Hall kept on arguing, inspite
of patient clarifications from Bhagavan, Bhagavan said, "All
right, do you want to me give you in writing that  I lost in debate?
I shall do it.  Please bring Naryana Iyer and he shall register the
stamp paper on which I would write and this man can take it
and go."

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: The 16 shakti
« on: October 20, 2008, 12:26:56 PM »
Dear Ramanaduli and Dr. Raju,

This reminds me one Nindha-sthuthi, Praying as if Scolding,
in Tamil.  One poet told Siva,

"They say that you have three eyes!  O Siva. It is all bluff.
One and a half eyes belong to my mother, Unnamulai, who
is on the left side of you.  The balance is only one and a half
eyes.  Even in this, one eye was given to you by Kannappar.
So, you have only one half of an eye!  They say you are having
a moon, which represents bliss.  But this is a three digit moon,
without any light.  All light comes to you, from my mother,
Unnamulai, please remember!"

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: The 16 shakti
« on: October 20, 2008, 12:21:24 PM »
Dear mikroth, Thank you.

Dear Dr. Raju and Ramanaduli, in Saiva panteon, all the three,
Siva, Uma and Ganesa wear the moon.  All the three have three

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Poorna saranagathi
« on: October 20, 2008, 12:18:08 PM »
Dear Dr. Raju, Yes.  I think, (whether it is in the same story or
some other story), someone came to drop cactus milk into His
eyes, to make Him blind.  He did not move.  Then they left without
doing that evil thing.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Praying,,,,,,
« on: October 20, 2008, 12:15:44 PM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Do not rush to stop praying.  Develop the praying into total
surrender as Dr. Raju said.  Bhagavan says in Who am  I?
that giving oneself to God is Bhakti.  Give yourself, by praying
to God.  As for kids, they will take care of themselves, by seeing
you.  Give them education to be good in life, truthful and helpful
to others.

Aruanchala Siva.

General topics / Re: Somerset Maughm
« on: October 20, 2008, 12:12:31 PM »
Dear Dr. Raju, and Ramanaduli,

Somerset Maugham came to Tiruvannamalai and was staying in
Major Chadwick's (Sadhu Arunachala) room.  Since he was unwell,
Chadwick requested Bhagavan whether He could come and meet.
Bhagavan agreed and went to the room.  Somerset Maugham, stood
up from his bed and Bhagavan looked at him for about 20 minutes.
Maugham went into a state of "tranquility" and no words were
exchanged.  When Chadwick asked Maugham to talk something,
Bhagavan said in broken English:  Hear Talk.  No need to talk!
This is reported by Chadwick, in his book Sadhu's Reminscences.
Chadwick did not confirm that Maugham went into a state of
bliss or trance.  But Annamalai Swami, in his book Sri Ramana
Reminsicences said that Maugham went into a state of samadhi.

The tragic part of this stroy.  Maugham himself has said later
that he was only in a state of swoon, because of heat of Tiruvannamalai.
When some books were sent to him abroad by Asram, Maugham
had reported that these books were sent to him by the Asram,
to spread Bhagavan's message.  That is all was his experience
of Bhagavan Ramana.  What to do?

Arunachala siva.

General topics / Re: State of innocence
« on: October 20, 2008, 12:03:14 PM »
Dear Dr. Raju,

Yes.  Bhagavan was in a state of total innocence, not claiming
anything miracles to be His, when they happpened in His Presence.
Brunton was given a glimpse of Bhagavan several times.  But I
would say that he did not pursue it further.  He has to be thanked
for making the western seekers to know about Bhagavan Ramana,
through his great book, A Search in Secret India.  But later, he
was even not permitted inside the Asram, because, he was claiming
several of his own ideas as Bhagavan's through his other books
or articles and this irritated the Asram.  Of course, Bhagavan had
no opinion, as usual, on this issue.

Arunachala Siva. 

General topics / Re: Bhagavan ramana and Ramalinga adigalar
« on: October 20, 2008, 11:58:46 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Ramalinga Swamigal, prayed to Siva as Arut Perum Jothi, as
Siva as "Large Merciful Effulgence'. He was a Raja Yogi too.
He, of course prayed to Effulgence from outside.  That way,
he was a Saiva Siddanthi and not an Advaiti in strict terms.

Arunachala Siva. 

Forum advice, news & etiquette / Re: Copyright
« on: October 20, 2008, 11:55:42 AM »
Dear Graham,

I had two days' powercut and low voltage problems in the city
and I opened the Forum only today after 17th instant.

Your message.  I do not know whether Sri Ramanasramam's
publications in Tamil and English are under copy rights.  I request
a reply from you so that I can proceed, if permitted, the Guru
Ramana Vachana Mala.  Till your reply, I am not writing anything
from that book or any other Ramansramam book.

Thanking you, 

Yours truly,

Subramanian. R
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General Discussion / Re: who is the real seeker or true devotee
« on: October 20, 2008, 11:51:42 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

All practices of nishkamya karma, bhakti, total surrender, etc., are
needed during the period of seeking.

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: birth day celebration
« on: October 20, 2008, 11:49:28 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Birth day and death day are not there only for Jnanis, who have
overcome birth and death.  For we, the seekers, these have to
be observed, as Dr. Raju and srkduai said, to remember more
intently the Jnanis' advent and their liberation from the body and
above all their teachings and guidance.

Arunachala Siva. 

General Discussion / Re: Resources in Tamil
« on: October 20, 2008, 11:45:56 AM »
Dear Saktivel,

Some of the publications in Tamil representing his own works
by Sadhu Om Swamigal are also available in Sadhu Om Swamigal
Asram, Manakkula Vinayaka Street, Tiruvannamalai, 606 603

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Web cam for Thruvannamalai
« on: October 20, 2008, 11:43:30 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes.  This can be seen from your PC, by clicking Arunachala Webcam.
I am starting my computer work in the Forum everyday after seeing this only.  The web photo is available with varying photographs during
nights also on full moon days.

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Sheshadri swamigal's mother
« on: October 20, 2008, 11:40:54 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Seshadri Swamigal's mother passed away, when the Swamigal was
in Kanchipuram, and as you said, she touched Swamigal's chest
three times, saying Arunachala Siva, three times.  This can be
taken as a mantra given by Swamigal's mother to him.   She was
a greate devotee of Siva and Parvati.

Arunachala Siva. 

Dear Dr. Raju,

You must be correct.  In Tamil book containing the happenings
in Thousand Island Park, it is mentioned as 'manam kuvidhal'
meaning only 'focussing of the mind' or Ekakgrata as you mentioned.
The English translation (or is it English original and Tamil translation?)
gives it as 'Concentration.'

Arunachala Siva.