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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Decad of Fear
« on: November 11, 2008, 11:40:49 AM »
Acha Pathu, Decad of Fear, (actually 11 verses), by Muruganar
is in Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, and is on the same lines as that
of Manikkavachagar.

Verse 4 reads like this:

I am not afraid of wakefulness and sleep,
I am not afraid of forgetfulness and remembrance,
I am not afraid of the drops of sweat on the foreheads
Of women with eyes like those of forest deers,
I am only afraid of those who have no mind to devotion,
To the Holy Being of Venkata, who has no going and coming

Verse 9 reads like this:

I am not afraid of the mad angry elephant,
I am not afraid of the fearful eyes of tigers,
I am not afraid of the sweet words of women,
Whose feet are softer than the silk cotton,
I am only afraid of those who are not staying in the lotus feet of Venkata,
Whose eyes will correct the errors of His holy devotees, for their
   upliftment.

(Source: Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, Muruganar, Tamil, 1998
edition, Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai. Translation my own.)

Arunachala Siva.

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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Acha Pathu
« on: November 11, 2008, 11:30:24 AM »
Acha Pathu, Decad of Fear, is a composition of 10 verses in
Tiruvachakam, by Manikkavachagar.  This was sung in Chidambaram.

Verse 1 reads like this:

I am not afraid of the sword like serpent in the moles,
I am not afraid of the lies of the liars,
I am afraid only of seeing the ignorant fools,
Who are not taking refuge in the god with eye in the forehead,
And matted locks, my Master,
And go after other gods, thinking they are really there.

Verse 5 reads like this:

I am not afraid of all the diseases come to this body,
I am not afraid of the birth and the death,
I am afraid only of those who do not apply the Holy Ashes on
   their foreheads,
And pray to the Holy Feet of the One, who is wearing the crescent moon,
And whose feet are not seen by gods who have split the earth
And went to the nether world in search of them. 

(Source: Tiruvachakam, Tamil verses, Saiva Siddhanta Book
  Publishing House, Chennai. Translation, my own.)

Arunachala Siva.

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The  Song of Holy Word to Sri Ramana, is a composition by Muruganar
on the same lines as that of Manikkavachagar in Tiruvachakam.  But
it is not a decad but consists of 37 verses.

Verse 1 reads like this:

In the far away creamation ground, with the group of devils
   dancing like night lilies, He is also dancing in the midnight,
   with fire on His hand, He is the god of gods our Ramanesan,
   our Lord,
He is confering all the wealth of the holy land of liberation,
   to those who listen to Him and have them in their Hearts,
   He is in the seat of my dead mind, He, my Lord knows this.

Verse 30 reads like this:

He is the embodiment of all the desirable virtues, He is
   the one who is the Sun of Wisdom,
He is the Remaining Thing, He is Siva, the angels of the heavens
   call Him as their Lord, Ramanesan,
Even those wastrels who have no praiseworthy character,
They too  praise His glory , the Lord of the alms-takers, He is our Lord!

(Source: Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, Tamil, Murugnar, 1998 edition.
Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.  Translation, my own.)

Arunachala Siva.    

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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Decad of Holy Word
« on: November 11, 2008, 10:07:59 AM »
The decad of Holy Word, or Tiru Varthai, from Tiruvachakam
of Saint Manikkavachagar, consists of 10 verses, saying about
the Holy Word of Siva.  Muruganar has also composed a decad
with the similar title.

He, with the crown of many precious stones, the Lord of Devas,
The dancer of the cosmic dance, which the six types of religions,
Pray and do service in their own ways,
The heavens and the earth adore Him,
He is curing the illness of my birth, the Lord of Tirup Perundurai,
He is the great giver of grace, he liked the woman,
And as a fisher man spread the net for fishing,*
He knows how to fish, He is my Lord! 

(* In one of His divine plays, Siva came as a fisherman in
Madurai and married the fisher-woman Meenkashi.)

(Source:  Tiruvachakam, Manikkavachagar, Saiva Siddhanta Book
Publishing House, Chennai.  Translation, my own.)

Arunachala Siva.

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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Tiruttani Tiru Pugazh
« on: November 11, 2008, 09:58:29 AM »
Arunagiri Natha, in one of his songs in the temple of Tiruttani,
says:

Without failing in any of my steady and good thoughts,
With steadfast pure mind, not leaving me anytime,
Without being destroyed by various dense tattvas,
Please give me the Self knowledge, eternal.
You are easy to be approach by your devotees,
You are greater than the three faceted Tamil,*
You are the younger son of Siva,
O my Lord of Tiruttani!

(* three faceted - Prose, Poetry and Drama.)

Arunachala Siva.

46656
General topics / Re: mahamudra meditation
« on: November 11, 2008, 09:49:50 AM »
My dear mai chop gohok,

I am closing this discussion on rituals and advaita.  You can have
the last laugh.

Arunachala Siva.

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General Discussion / Re: imprtance of Sat sangha
« on: November 11, 2008, 09:46:27 AM »
Dear everyone,

Japa, prayer and meditation are all aids to self enquiry, because
these bring about one thought of the Godhead, instead of many
thoughts which slowly weaken but spread more and more.  This
is as per Who am I?.  Ekakrita is obtained through such activities,
and it helps to do self enquiry.  To say that japa, prayer and meditation
are not required is like doing pole vault without the pole!

Arunachala Siva.

46658
General topics / Re: mahamudra meditation
« on: November 10, 2008, 04:50:11 PM »
Dear mai chop gohok,

Further to what Dr. Raju has said,

If you did believe either way, it is for you to work out the Truth.

Arunachala Siva.   

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General topics / Re: mahamudra meditation
« on: November 10, 2008, 03:19:49 PM »
My dear mai chop gohok,

I only said Bhagavan Ramana, as a Teacher and as a person,
was beyond Hinduism or any other religion.  I did not refer
Ramana devotees and disciples as Hindus or non Hindus.

Arunachala Siva.

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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Kunchitanghristavam - 5
« on: November 10, 2008, 03:15:52 PM »
Umapati Sivam closes the Hymn, with these verses:

Listening, constantly listening, with full attention to His Pure deeds,
Drinking, constanting drinking with my tongue, the wine of His
   lotus feet in the Sabha,
Remembering, constantly remembering Him the Lord of my heart,
Seeing, constantly seeing Him Who is the culmination of Vedas,
Who being pleased is the giver of enjoyment and salvation,
I am enlightened by His great eye of Wisdom,
Him Whose foot is curved, I worship.

Those mortals, who read every day, this Hymn, the product of
   my eloquence,
I who am Umapati, in praise of Sambhu,
Who performs the Dance of Supreme Bliss,  in the Hall of
   Consciousness
Will first win all they desire in this world, wife, son and so on,
And at the end for sure, His foot, the state called Pure Awareness,

I Umapati by name, in the forest dwelling stage of my life,
When I had uttered this royal hymn of praise of the blessed
  curved foot,
In three hundred and thirteen verses,
Saw with my own eyes, the Dance of the Lord of the Hall!

(Source:  The Dance of Siva, David Smith.  Cambridge University
Press, Cambridge, UK)


Arunachala Siva.     

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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Kunchitanghristavam - 4
« on: November 10, 2008, 03:07:20 PM »
There are verses about temple paraphernalia in this Stavam.

They, the pure, worship Him with incense, then with lamps,
The snake lamp, the pot lamp, the lamp with five wicks,
The fire-sacrifice lamp, the star lamp, the camphor lamp;
And with holy ash and with fan, with excellent white umbrella,
and chowry and mirror, with flowers sanctified with mantras,
With the camphor tipped lamp.

Quickly they abandon ignorance and see Him clearly every day,
Him whose foot is curved, I worship.

Six times a day, every day,
the lordly sages free from sin, worhship His Linga.
With five products of the cow, with oil, with milk, curds and white ghee,
With honey and pure sugar -- the five fold ambrosia,
With sweet lime juice, with the water of tender coconut;
With boiled rice, with fragrances, with waters of the other Ganga,
   the Siva ganga,
He is the Lord of the Universe,
Him, Whose foot is curved, I worship.

(Source: The Dance of Siva, David Smith. Cambridge University
Press, UK.)

Arunachala Siva. 
 

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General topics / Re: mahamudra meditation
« on: November 10, 2008, 02:57:51 PM »
Dear mai chop goho,

In this Forum, we speak the truth.  The buddhistic rituals which
I have described, I have seen as  participant one day in the
Maha Bodhi Society, Bangalore, where some Sri Lankans were doing
and I was witnessing.  They teach Walking Meditation, something
similar to Zazen or Sitting Meditation of Zen Masters.

In Sri Ramansramam, I have been going once for three days in
three months, and I have seen this Puja many times.  There is
nothing abnormal about it, as it is done in any Siva Temple.  Both
the samadhis of Mother Azhgamma and Bhagavan Ramana have their
Siva Lingas, on top.  There are elaborate poojas and milk is distributed,
with holy ashes and vermillon.  David Godman,  came to
Tiruvannamalai in 1976 and is still staying there for the past 42
years.  He became Self realized in three years.  He is doing circumambulation 108 times, a holy number, in Bhagavan Ramana's
shrine, every evening!  He takes prasad.  I have seen Western devotees, taking broom sticks and cleaning the entire Asram.  Dear friend,
these have to be gone through while doing self enquiry or even after
self realization and these are not rituals but more than that.  What
benefits these things give, whether these are essential pre requisites
for self realization, only the doer can say.

Arunachala Siva.
 

   

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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Decad on Oh! Oh!
« on: November 10, 2008, 02:21:57 PM »
Saint Poet Manikkavachagar's Acho Padigam, was the last of
Tiruvachakam.  Tiruvachakam starts with, in Siva Puranam,
the first decad, "Glory to Namasivaya, Glory to His feet!'
and ends as 'Who can get it, Acho, Acho!' in Acho Padigam.
Scholars have said that the first and the last line sums up the
essence of Tiruvachakam:  If you chant Namasivaya and contemplate
on Siva, you will get that bliss. Who else can get?

Verse 1 reads like this:

I moved with those scoundrels who do not know the way to salvation,
You came and taught me devotion, contemplation and rooted out
   my karmas,
You snapped the dirt of mind, you made me Sivam, the bliss,
O Father, how can I explain your grace. Who else can get this?

Verse 10 reads like this:

I roamed with those wastrels who do not the way to Perfection,
You came and snapped my three dirts, you the First Principle,
You also considered me fit and placed this dog on a palanquin,
O Mother, how can I explain your grace. Who else can get this?

(Source:  Tiruvachakam, Tamil Original. Saiva Siddhanta Book
Publishing House, Chennai.  Translation, my own.)

Arunachala Siva.     

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Decad on Oh! Oh!
« on: November 10, 2008, 02:13:25 PM »
The Decad on Oh! Oh! is called Acho Padigam.  Acho is a word
of exclamation in Tamil.  This has been used both by Manikkavachagar
and Muruganar.

The decad of Muruganar is styled as Manikkavachagar's in
Triuvachakam.

Verse 3 reads like this:

With happiness and arrogance, going behind women,
   drinking the pot of lust, and then deluded in their
   giggles, so was I,
I came to Venkata, who gave me the clear Wisdom
    and am happy and blissful, Oh, Oh!  who can get this bliss?

Verse  4 reads like this:

With fire like advances and slender waists, these women
Deluded me with clouds like dark eyes and I was lost,
The great god, Venkata Ramanan, called me,
And I got my life's reward, Oh! Oh1 who can get this bliss?

(Source:  Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, Tamil, Muruganar, 1998
   edition.  Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai. Translation my own.)

Arunachala Siva.

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Verses on Pongal
« on: November 10, 2008, 02:01:41 PM »
Pongal or Sankaranti, is a festival, after harvest in many parts of
India, happening sometime between Jan and Feb.  On this day,
people prepare, Sweet Pongal, with rice, dhal, jaggery and milk.
When the milk swells in the pots, they cry:  Pongalo Pongal...
O Sankranti milk is swelling......

Muruganar celebrated one such happy occasion in the Asram,
and sang this poem.

With the world of many colours, with food of six tastes,
With pleasures of five senses, let us go past these,
For these would delude us, and sink our soul into Maya,
And threaten us with duality, let us go away from this jugglery,
And pray to Ramana's feet, and enjoy only one taste, rasa
of advaita, shouting Pongalo Pongal, with happiness on this day,
Let us seek His grace, always and greet Him,
And be proud with this glory of the Self.  Every year,
You are celebrating Pongal festival, but let us celebrate
Fesival every day with Ramana, as Pongalo Pongal!

(Source:  Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, Tamil, Muruganar,
Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai. 1998 edition.
Translation, my own.)

Arunachala Siva.