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I have posted yesterday, that Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi enjoyed
good singing of various bhakti songs of Manikkavachagar, Jnana
Sambandhar, Sundaramoorthy, Tiru Navukkarasar, Ramalinga
Swamigal, Pattinathar, Tayumanavar and Arunagiri Natha.  Devotees
like Visvanatha Swami, Devaraja Mudaliar and Vallimalai Swamigal
used to sing some of these songs, in the Old Hall. 

One such song is Chidambaram Tiruppugazh of Arunagri Natha,
which was sung on many occasions by Devaraja Mudaliar.  The
song starts as 'Ezhukadal manalai alavidil adhigam......'  meaning,
My miserable births are more than the sands of all the seven oceans!

The song reads like this:

My miserable births are more than the sands of all the seven oceans,
Hereafter You are my refuge, my soul and my body, I cannot die
The vultures, the jackals, the cremation grounds, the god of death, and
     Brahma, the creator, have become tired of me!
It is your debt, you are my refuge, this slave is your slave, please
     give me your feet swiftly,
You are the darling son of unequalled beauty, the emerald green
     form, your mother Uma,
When you fought the Surapadman, the whole world burnts, the
     eight directional mountains got crushed, on the feet of your
The seven oceans trembled, and you snapped the lives of demons,
     with your fiery spear,
The devas, the Sages daily adore you, and you dance in Chidambaram!*

(Saint Arunagiri Natha does not differentiate between Siva and Skanda,
  he used to call Skanda as six faced Siva.  Hence he visualizes him, as
  dancing in Chidambaram.)

(Source:  Tiruppugazh, Saint Arunagiri Natha, Publication by
  Tiruppugazh Devotees Group,  New Delhi.)

Arunachala Siva. 

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Vel Vaguppu
« on: November 05, 2008, 04:56:07 PM »
Vel Vaguppu, the Glory of the Vel, the Spear, is another beautiful
song of Saint Arunagiri Natha and forms part of about 20 such
Vaguppus, of Tiruppugazh.  Bhagavan Ramana used to like this
song very much and listened intently whenever A. Devaraja Mudaliar,
sang this song in the Hall.  It is a long poem. Bhagavan Ramana also
used to dramatize the descriptions in this poem.

The Spear is like the sharp black eyes of Valli, the consort of Muruga,
  with  large breasts, slender waist, white smile, and jet black hair
  and red lips.

The Spear is like the single sharp tusk of Vinayaka, with elephant
   face, large ears and waters oozing out from his head.

The Spear, will break the caves for the sake of the poems of
   the great Tamil poet Nakkirar, when he was imprisoned in a cave.

The Spear will be hungry to eat the flesh of demons, who were
   smashed by Skanda,

The Spear will annihilate the dangers that come for Devas, the Sages,
   Indra, the god of death, Vishnu and the humans.

The Spear will shine like the Sun, and shower the cool rays of the
   moon and heat like the Great Fire of Vata muka agni.

The Spear will destroy those who plan troubles for the praying
   devotees, and their kith and kin.

The Spear will vanquish the miseries from the enemies of the
   devotees, who read Tirup Pugazh and establish Dharma.

The Spear will create fears in death god, if he comes to do harm
  to the devotees, the Spear shines like the anklets of Siva, who
  wears the crescent moon and "erukku" flowers.

The Spear will give food to the devils in the battle fields, by killing
  the demons.

The Spear will be the unseen support to me, in day and night, whenever
   I walk on a lonely road without anyone.

The Spear will wear the red instestines of the demons, who come
    to the battle field to get killed.

The Spear will consume the waters of ocean and then fill them
    with the blood of enemies and play.

The Spear will fly in the Space, as the mountains whose wings,
   Indra failed to snap.

The Spear will bite the severed heads of the demons in the battle
   field, with open mouth, as if laughing.

The Spear will remain in my Heart, the Spear of the God of Tiruttani, the
  great Ruler, who rides on the peacock.

(Source: Vel Vaguppu, Tamil, Tiruppugazh Devotees Trust
  Publication, New Delhi. Translation, my own. )

Arunachala Siva. 


The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Sri Ramana Ananda Malai
« on: November 05, 2008, 03:08:07 PM »
This is a composition of ten verses, from Muruganar, on the model
of Ananada Malai, of Manikkavachagar.

Verse 2 reads like this:

All the good devotees are, with your grace enjoying the
   bliss of Jnana,
I have, Venakta, been thinking about impermanent things
   as permanent,
O this unlettered, dangerous dog, have sought the desires
   and drowned into the dark ocean and deluded,
O shower me the limitless rains of Siva experience, please grace me.

Verse 4 reads like this:

Like a mad elephant, this lowly dog swelled with ego,
O Venakata, with your graceful eyes, I lost my gunas,
My stature, my learning and my mind,
O tell me when I can lie at your feet, losing everything, other
   than my Self?

(Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, Tamil, 1998 edition, Sri Muruganar,
  Sri Ramansramam.  Translation, my own.)

Arunachala Siva.   

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Ananda Malai
« on: November 05, 2008, 02:58:07 PM »
Ananda Malai, is a composition of ten verses, of which only 7
are now available, in Tiruvachakam.  This was sung in Thillai,
that is, Chidambaram.  It speaks about the bliss of Siva.

Verse 1 reads like this:

Those who merged in your lightning like lotus feet,
   have gone past the heavans, to your abode,
The devas are praising your glory with golden flowers,
I was enjoying the worldly pleasures as if they are sugarcanes
   and drowned in the ocean of misery,
Alas, tell me when I can merge with you and have the
   bliss of Siva?

Verse 3 reads like this:

Without good conduct, noble penance and wisdom and intelligence,
I am tossing like a leather doll in this world of puppet show!
You showed me your effulgence, your path and your Form,
Alas, tell me when I can merge with your and have the bliss of

(Source: Tiruvachakam, Tamil, Saiva Siddhanta Book Publishing
   House, Chennai.)

Arunachala Siva. 

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Sri Ramana Pidittha Pathu
« on: November 05, 2008, 02:49:48 PM »
Sri Ramana Pidittha Pathu, is a composition by Muruganar with
eleven verses, styled like Manikkavachakar's Pidittha Pathu.

Verse 6 reads like this:

O like the ornament that appeared from gold, stayed in gold,
      and disappered in god,
All that happened within me, stayed with me, and disappeared
   within me, I realized,
You gave me an experience of you, and nothing other than you,
    O Venakata,
I have tightly caught you within me, where can you go hereafter?

Verse 11 reads like this:

The great gods were surprised and placed their fingers on
   their noses!
Upon seeing me, this lowly dog, and you held me on a
   palanquin and made me proud in their eyes!
With your meaningful looks, that are as sharp as swords,
   you took hold of me and ruled me,
I held you tightly in my grip, where can you go hereafter?

(Source: Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, Tamil, Muruganar,
  Tamil, 1998 edition, Sri Ramansramam, Translation my own.)

Arunachala Siva. 

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Decad on tight catching
« on: November 05, 2008, 02:38:14 PM »
Pidittha Pathu, or Decad on Tight Catching, is a composition of 10
verses, by Manikkavachagar, in Tiruvachakam.  This was sung in
Sirkazhi, the birth place of another Saiva Jnani, Jnana Sambandhar.
Sirkazhi was also called Tirut Tonipuram, in classical Tamil.  This
means a great boat to cross the ocean (of samasara).  This speaks
about union with Siva.

Verse 1 reads like this:

O the king of devas, the great yoga of bliss which is all pervading,
The riches to this foul smelling wastrel of a dog,
The  One who made me ripe with Siva Jnana and ruled me and
   my lineage,
O the medicine that vanquished my individual soul,
The great Effulgence, the Substance of all, the god of golden feet,
O my wealth, O Siva,
I am caught you tightly, for my sake, for my liberation,
Where can you go hereafter?

Verse 9 reads like this:

O greater than a mother, who remembers the time at which she
   should feed the child with her breasts,
You came here with your grace to this sinner,
And withered my body, enlarged my light within me,
You showered honey and loitered here and there,
O my wealth, O Siva,
I followed you and caught you tightly, for my sake, for my liberation,
Where can you go hereafter?

(Tiruvachakam - Manikkavachagar, Tamil, Saiva Siddhanta Book
  Publishing House, Chennai.)

Arunachala Siva.     

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Tiruc Chathakam
« on: November 05, 2008, 02:11:45 PM »
Dear srkudai,

One can sit before Bhagavan Ramana's photography and look at
Him and cry.  This is absolutely good.  Many poets have sung in
praise of godhead and wept.  Arunagiri Natha says in Seer Padha
Vaguppu:  "When the devotees pray, prostrate and weep and melt
in their hearts, you come with a war cry: I am here, do not worry."

Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvembavai, "When I say, the Ruler
of the South, the Ruler of the South, you melt like a wax near
the fire. What is this?"  (Ruler of the South, means Siva.)
This can be further analayzed in two or more ways.

1. One, it purifies the mind, if you believe that such a chitta suddhi
     is necessary, or to be sought for.

2. Two, it makes the devotee to 'see' the godehad, in due course,
     'within', than from 'without'.    It means Self Surrender.  Self
      Surrender is the Self Realization. 

3. Certain miracles do happen in the presence of God or Guru. 
     Even though, Bhagavan Ramana did not own up any miracles,
     miracles did happen in His Presence.  These miracles, the devotees
     feel, are due to some "transmission" from God or Guru and these
     strengthen his faith.

      Such transmissions happened to Annamalai Swami, Lakshmana
      Swami, Mouni Sadhu, Wolter Kier and others.  Sri Ramakrishna
      did them for Vivekaananda.
     All the above three factors lead to liberation.   There could be
     be other such factors too.

Arunachala Siva.   

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Tiruc Chathakam
« on: November 05, 2008, 10:57:59 AM »
Manikkavachagar's Tiruc Chathakam, also speaks about the
bhakti and vairagya, as pathway to Siva.  This is divided into
ten parts of ten verses each.  This was sung in Tirup Perundurai.

Verse I.1. reads like this:

My body sweats and I horripilate, I keep my head and hands
At your feet, and I shed tears, and become baked inside,
I want to leave the falsity and praise you Jaya Jaya,
I do not want to leave my hands from you, Please see me, my King!

Verse X.1 reads like this:

O Changeless great flood of bliss, I came to your lotus feet, swiftly,
The true devotees got a gift of union with you, and lived in the Truth,
The incomparable You, came as a simple guru in human form,
Still this lowly dog with mischieveous mind, could not understand
   you, please grace me.

(Source: Tiruvachakam, Tamil.  Saiva Siddhanta Book Publishing
    House, Chennai.)

Arunachala Siva.   

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Sri Ramana Tiruc Chathakam
« on: November 05, 2008, 10:46:14 AM »
Sri Ramana Tiruc Chathakam, is a composition of 100 verses,
divided into ten groups of ten songs each.  It speaks about
the bhakti and non attachement, as roads to salvation.  Muruganar
has sung these songs in the same fashion, as Manikkavachagar,
who has also compoed 100 verses under the title Tiruc Chathakam.

Verse I.6 reads like this:

Without thinking god and only doing karmas, day and night,
Following such futile path, O mind, you have been deluded and
There are innumerable people who trusted the karmas and left
   the godhead,
I shall always live praying the feet of Venkata, and leave all the
   vengeful karmas. 

Verse II. 2 reads like this:

O Venakata, with eyes on your forehead, that vanquished
    the god of love,
I do not sweep your Asram, I do not polish it,
I do not pick the unwanted leaves and plants,
I am only rushing towards death, I shall unite with you on death.

(Source: Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, 1998 edition, Tamil,
Muruganar, Sri Ramansramam.   Translation my own.)

Arunachala Siva. 

Bhagavan Ramana was in the Hills during His early years, and was
observing mouna.  One day, a boy came to Him to do mischief, and
said: "Jadaswami wants your water bucket!"  He showed him the
bucket and the boy quietly took it.  After sometime, Jadaswami
came to Bhagavan Ramana and said: "Why you have you sent
the water bucket, I did not ask!" 

Bhagavan Ramana understood the mischief of the boy.  He went
to him, raised His hand and thought for a while, "Why should I
harm him?"  But He later thought that if He does not punish him
at this stage, the boy would do greater crimes in future."  So
He slapped him.  The boy went away in shame.

In Indian religions and philosophy, we speak of two types of
Grace, one with a punishment and another without any harm,
to the devotees and seekers.  Lakshmana's cutting the nose
of Surpanaka is one such grace with punishment.  Bhagavan
also did the same thing to the boy.    The boy grew into a middle
aged man and came to have darshan of  Bhagavan Ramana in
later years.

(Source: Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace,
Vol 1. Sri Ramansramam.)

Arunachala Siva. 

Bhagavan Ramana has told the devotees, that what He had read
earlier in Tiruchuzhi and Madurai, were only the Periya Puranam,
the Bible and a few songs of Saint Tayumanavar. He had of course,
enjoyed Tevaram,Tiruvachakam and Tiruppugazh whenever some devotees sang these songs.  These songs of Jnana Sambandha, Tiru
Navukkarasar, Sundramoorthy, Arunagiri Natha and Tayumanavar,
sung in the Hall and enjoyed by Bhagavan Ramana have been
listed by A. Devaraja Mudaliar, and the list has been given in his, The Reflections of Bhagavan Sri Ramana. 

Of Tiruppugazh songs, the one which is in the list is in Nayaki Nayaka
bhava.  This song reads like this:

O You came in a peacock that is as blue as the rain clouds,
I have seen your form, O Muruga,
This poor girl is drunk with your form, please give me
Your fragrant garland as a wedding gift,
You have thrown the spear and pierced the Krouncha mountain in the 
You were the god of death of brave demons,
You are the substance of the four Vedas,
You are the Self, you proclaim, O Lord!

(Source: The Reflections of Bhagavan Sri Ramana, A. Devaraja
Mudaliar, Sri Ramansramam.  Tiruppugazh, the collections of
Tiurppugazh Devotees Group, New Delhi. Translation my own.)

Arunachala Siva.     

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Sri Ramana Pandaaya Vedam
« on: November 05, 2008, 09:59:18 AM »
Sri Ramana Pandaaya Vedam, of Muruganar, is styled as
Pandaaya Naanmarai, of Manikkavachagar.  Muruganar's
composition consists of 10 verses.

Verse 1 reads like this:

The Ancient Vedas even with their heads
Cannot see His golden feet, For this
Lowly dog, He was gracious to give me a golden palanquin!
He is my mother, Venkaata!

Verse 5 reads like this:

He is the King, He robbed me of my self, He is the Guru,
He consumed my individual soul, and then took this flesh
Of my body for His service,
Ever graceful Venkata!

(Source:  Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, 1998 edition,
Tamil, Muruganar, Sri Ramansramam.  Translation my own.)

Arunachala Siva.     

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Ramanatha Brahmachari
« on: November 05, 2008, 09:51:02 AM »
Ramanatha Brahmachari, was a young boy, studying in Temple
Veda Patasala.  He is a man of puny structure, hardly 5 feet tall,
with thick spectacles.  He came to Bhagavan Ramana, even during
the time of His stay in the Hills.  Bhagavan Ramana took great
interest in him.  He did a lot of service to other devotees, like
bringing necessary items from the shops in Tiruvannamalai,  cleaning
the caves, lighting the lamps etc., The devotees called him as
Sarvadhikari of Palakottu.  He merged with Bhagavan Ramana in 1946.

There are two compositions from Ramanatha Brahmachari on
Bhagavan Ramana.  One is Sri Ramana Stotra Anubhuti with 30
verses, on the model of Kandar Anubhuti of Saint Arunagiri Natha.
The other one is Tiruchuzhi Nathanai Kandene, "I have seen the
Lord of Tiruchuzhi".

Verse 1 of Sri Ramana Anubhuti reads like this:

Skanda, Muruga, the graceful Ramana
Came and stayed into my Heart
All my attachements and karmas have been vanquished
I am realizing the Experience within me.

Verse  5 reads:

He gave me the grace that cannot be given to everyone,
He is of six faces and he is the son of Uma,
He is the Brahmin of limitless grace,
He has cured the disease of my birth.

Tiruchuzhi Nathanai Kandene... is five verse composition, with a
refrain, 'I have seen the Lord of Tiruchuzhi' and Ramanatha
describes Ramana as Nataraja of Tiruvannamalai, who weilds
his sword to vanquish the egos of devotees.

Ramanatha Brahmachari suffered from plague boils and  Bhagavan
Ramana took special care towards him for the cure of the disease.
He also participated in Freedom Movement, in a limited way.

(Source: Recollections of Bhagavan Sri Ramana, A. Devaraja
Mudaliar, Sri Ramansramam publications.  Translations, my own.)

Arunachala Siva.     

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Yatirai Pathu
« on: November 05, 2008, 09:30:51 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Muruganar is Manikkavachagar for Ramana Siva.  I am giving some
verses from Tiruvachakam and Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, under
the same song-heads, concurrently.  Pidittha Pathu will be posted

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Shiva sutra
« on: November 05, 2008, 09:26:42 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Some of the Saiva aphorisms are in the form of dialogue, as
Siva teaching Paravati.  This is the method adopted in Guru
Geeta also.  Devi Kalottara Jnana, which Bhagavan Ramana
has translated into verses, is also in the form of Siva-Parvati

Arunachala Siva.