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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Tiru Ko Thumbi
« on: November 19, 2008, 01:49:11 PM »
Thumbi is a butterfly or a bee.  Ko Thumbi, means Royal Butterfly
or Bee.  Tiru Ko Thumbi, Song of the Holy Royal Bee, is a composition
of twenty verses in Tiruvachakam of Manikkavachagar.  The maiden
love is sending the Royal Bee as the messenger to Siva. 

Verse 1 reads like this:

The lotus seated Brahma, Indra, the goddess of white lotus
Narayana, the four great Vedas, and the devas cannot see
That Great Effugence riding on the bull,
O Royal Bee, go to His lotus feet and hum!

Verse 2 reads like this:

Who am I?  What is my mind?  What is my wisdom?  Who can save me?
Unless the god of the gods, take hold of me, O Royal Bee!
Drunk with your own honey, go and hum to His honey like feet,
He is dancing in the golden court, eating in the flesh covered skull of

(Source:  Tiruvachakam, Tamil Verses.  Saiva Siddhanta Book
Publishing House, Chennai.  Prose rendering, my own.)

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Miracles Do Happen
« on: November 19, 2008, 01:36:32 PM »
Once, one Ramaswami Pillai, who was reading in Tiruvannamalai,
who was spiritual by nature, was going to Bhagavan Ramana often
in the Hills and Bhagavan Ramana by His 'looks' was always flowing
His grace upon him.  Later he went to Madras for college studies,
but was visiting Bhagavan Ramana whenever he was in Tiruvannamalai.
Once he went at the night and Bhagavan Ramana was alone with a
few devotees. Ramaswami Pillai chanted Sri Arunachala Akshara Mana
Malai.  It was around 8 pm and Pillai had to take leave.  At that time,
rains started pouring.  Bhagavan Ramana asked him, whether he should
eat something.  He added that they do not eat at night, so Pillai also
had to fast, since there is nothing at the cave to eat.  Suddenly Ramanatha
Brahmachari came with some sweet pongal and half a coconut.  Bhagavan
said: Ramanatha, boil some water and pour the sweet pongal and coconut
descicated, and we shall make a sweet gruel and drink by sharing.  Pillai
was quite happy.  Again around 9 pm, two students came in the torrential
rain.  They were from Coimbatore.  They said that they have come to see
Him, on their way back to Coimbatore after the educational tour.  They
had brought a large packet of sweet candies and plenty of plantains!
Bhagavan said:  "O we have sweet candies and plantains too.  Mix
these also in the gruel and serve.  Pillai and others had a sumptuous
supper!  Bhavgvan Ramana said:  "O Pillai, I was fasting for the last
364 days without eating at night. In your presence, I am breaking the
night time fasting tonight!"  He also took the gruel and became quite
pleased with the developements.  Pillai became doubly happy since
he was responsible for Bhagavan Ramana's gruelling one session
for 1 year, being broken at that night!

Arunachala Siva. 

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Upadesha Saram
« on: November 19, 2008, 01:23:53 PM »
Verse 6:

I forgot the Tamil version.  Here it is:

Vazhutthalil vaikkucha vaikut japathil,
Vizhuppa manathu undhi para,
Vilambum dhyanam idhu undhi para.  (Verse 7)

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Upadesha Saram
« on: November 19, 2008, 01:20:30 PM »
To add to Dr. Raju,

In prayer,  it is better to chant the names and do the japa, within
the mouth, and it is called mantra dhyanam.  Better the low voiced
than the loud.  But the best is meditation within the mind.

Better than hymns of praise,
Is repetition of the name,
Better low-voiced than loud,
But best of all,
Is meditation in the mind.  

Once a queen was doing a lot of mantra japa but the king was
busy with his royal work.  However, he found that his wife is
advancing in spiritual field than he, who is spending his time
in the worldly work of a king.  So, he decided to do mantra japa
at night while sleeping.  Since sounds will distrub his wife, he
wanted to do it within the mouth and in due course, it became
a meditation in mind.  One early morning, the queen found her
husband mumbling something and she asked for the reason.  The
king did not want to reply but on persistence from the wife, he
told the truth.  The queen became very happy and said he can
continue this meditation and she would look after the work relating
to the king.  The king went to the forest and continued his practice.

A story from Yoga Vasishta as told by Bhagavan Ramana.

Arunachala Siva.  

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Upadesha Saram
« on: November 19, 2008, 01:11:07 PM »
For verse 4 of Upadesa Saram, the apparent meaning is that you
pray to the five elements, sun, moon and individual souls as the
forms of God.  Arthur Osborne has also translated the same way,
and there is no doubt about this.  But the word, 'En' which is used
in Tamil, has got two meanings.  One is 'eight' and the other is
'one who thinks'.  The word 'En' is pronounced as, in computer
language, with 'n' sounding as 'EN'.  This gives the meaning that
whatever form, you think and see before you, you consider it as
the form of God!  Of course, all these forms are on the earth.

Once Bhagavan Ramana and a few others were strolling on the Hills.
One lady was plucking all the bilva leaves on the trees on the way
and also plucking on the flowers that she could see.  Bhagavan
Ramana told her:  "Why you cannot leave these leaves and the flowers
on the trees?  Are they are not more beautiful with the trees?  Can't
you worship them, in the trees?  The Scriputres say that one should
only do pooja with flowers and leaves that have fallen on their own,
even if these are old."  The lady understood but meekly replied:
"Bhagavan!  I having taken a vow to do pooja with a lakh of bilwa
leaves and flowers. That is why...."   Bhagavan Ramana said: "Oh!
You are praying to Siva with a lakh of flowers and leaves?  Why not
you do pooja by pinching your body a lakh of times.  Siva would prefer
it better than doing pooja with leaves and flowers!"

One another story is:  Once there were a lot of bugs on the sofa, but
Bhagavan Ramana was tolerating their bites, without any murmur.
The attendants had been seeing these bugs.  At that time, DDT, was
just then discovered.  When Bhagavan Ramana went out for the stroll,
they sprayed the liquid and killed all the bugs, changed the sheets and
kept the sofa neat.  On return, Bhagavan Ramana smelt the chemical
and expressed with deep anguish:  O someone had been waiting for me
to leave the sofa, and played this dirty trick.

En uru yavaiyum, irai uru yamena,
Enni vazhipadal undhi para,
Isan nal poojanai undhi para!  (Verse 5)

(En - all that you see.  Enni - thinking or considering.)

Arunachala Siva.     

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Sri Ramana Tiru Por-chunnam
« on: November 18, 2008, 02:34:38 PM »
Sri Ramana Tiru Por-Chunnam of Muruganar in Sri Ramana Sannidhi
Murai, consists of 34 verses, and is modelled on Tiru Por-Chunnam
of Manikkavachagar in Tiruvachakam.

Verse 1 reads as under:

Let the world wonder as if it is a picture, let us set up the pestle stone,
O girls with red lines of beautiful eyes, which shall eat this world,
 let us decorate the pestle stone,
Place nice herbs and fragrant spices, in large measures, and start,
Let us pound the gold-dust to Venkata, who has consumed our egos!

Verse 5 reads like this:

He is the eye and the contemplation, he is the learning and the questions,
He is the music and the song, he is the drink and the food,
He is the numbers and the letters, he is all the variant things,
Let us pound the gold-dust to Venkata, who is the Space and the earth!

(Source:  Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, 1998 edition, Tamil. Muruganar.
Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.  Translation and Prose rendering, mine.)

Arunachala Siva. 

Sri Ramana Gita was composed by Kavyakanta Ganapati Sastri,
in 1916-17, from out of the questions asked by himself, his wife,
his disciples to Bhagavan Ramana and Bhagavan's replies to them.
This comprises of 300 verses in 18 chapters.  The eighteenth chapter
contains two important mantras, which are common to Skanda and
Bhagavan Ramana.  This is apart from Om Namo Bhagavate Sri
Ramanaya Namah.  There are a few stories related to Sri Ramana

1. Daivarata one of the questioners and disciple of Sastri, had
already had a talk with Bhagavan Ramana on various spiritual aspects,
and these have been separately given as Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi,
(this is not Talks of Munagala Venkatramiah).  This brief work is
available in another book of Sri Ramansramam.  But Daivarata
repeated his questions in the presence of Sastri and the replies
of Bhagavan Ramana have been incorporated in Sri Ramana Gita.

2. One Vaidharba, an aged discple of Sastri has also asked some
questions to Bhagavan Ramana and these have been incorporated
in Chapter 14 and 14 of SRG.  This gentleman's name is
Chirukual Venkatesvara Sastri.  After some years, he took sannyasa
before his death, sat in Padmasana, contemplated on Bhagavan Ramana
in Raja Yoga methods and got merged into the Self.  Bhagavan Ramana
has confirmed that Ventkatesvara Sastri, through Raja yoga, had
attained self realization.

3. Once when Kavyakanta was explaining Sri Ramana Gita, in the
Asram, he said many slakas, extempore, additionally.  When the
devotees asked him that these were not in SRG, Sastri replied cooly:
These are all going to be in Sri Maha Ramana Gita, a very large
compositon, that would be done by me!  The devotees were flabbergasted. Unfortuantely, this Maha Ramana Gita could not be
composed by Sastri before his death.  If that had been done, it would
be more than Yoga Vasisha Sara of 32000 verses, because Sastri
was capable of such feats.

4.  The two mantras given in Chapter XIII are:
    Om Vachat Bhuve namah - Prostration to the Effulgence!
    Om Saravana Bhavaya namah - Prostration to the god who
      appeared in Saravana Pond, as six children!

5.  Kapali Sastri who made a Sanskrit commentary to SRGa and got
it read and approved in the presence of Bhagavan Ramana had
written a bhashya for these mantras.

6. There is one sloka which starts as Nilaravinde......  Bhagavan
Ramana Himself had told Kapali Sastri, that this could be a
Dhayana Sloka for the entire SRG.  Kapali Sastri agreed.  Earlier
Kavyakanta had said:  "This Sloka alone would do for meditating
on the Heart, the Self, Bhagavan Ramana!

This Verse 13 in Chapter XIII can be translated as under:

In showering Grace, he is like the moon, the friend of the blue
water lily.  In the same way, in lustre, He is like the sun, the
kinsman of the lotus.  In Brahmic state, He reminds of his father
Sri Dakshinamoorthy, abding under the banyan tree.  He is also,
the immobile (Skanda), brother of mine, (that is Ganapati).

(Source:  Sri Ramana Gita Bhashyam, Kapali Sastri, English translation,
S. Sankaranarayanan, Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.  Arunachala's
Ramana, the Boundless Ocean of Grace, Volume 1.  Sri Ramansramam,

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Tiru Por-Chunnam
« on: November 18, 2008, 11:41:08 AM »
This is a composition of 20 verses in Tiruvachakam.  Muruganar
has also composed a similar one modelled on this.

Por-Chunnam, means two things.  One is simply golden dust or
spangles, which are thrown on the king or god, when the citizens
or devotees see them, coming back to the capital after war.  Por
Chunnam also means bathing powder, with turmeric, kasturi,
sandal paste and gold dust!

Verse 8 reads like this:

O girls of large black sword like eyes, please pound the
   porchunnam on the slab,
While your bangles make noise and your breasts swell with joy,
Chant the name of Siva, our Lord who shines with silver like
    holy ashes,
He has taken hold of us, who are lowlier than dogs by showing
    his lotus feet,
Tell his divine plays and dance and pound the porchunnam!

Verse 14 reads like this:

Let the conches blow, let the anklets sound, let us large garlands
    swing on either side,
Let our red fruit like lips quiver, o girls, sing on Siva Loka,
The Ganga makes sound, the serpent hisses, on his matted locks,
Let us sing his anklet wearing feet, let our breasts swell, let us
   pound Porchunnam!

(Source:  Tiruvachakam, Tamil Verses.  Saiva Siddhanta Book
Publishing House, Chennai.  Translation and prose rendering mine.)

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Pazhani Tiruppugazh
« on: November 18, 2008, 11:29:26 AM »
Pazhani is a place near Coimbatore, where on the Hills there is
a Skanda Temple.  Here the idol has been made with five herbal
leaves and is not of stone or metal.  This was made by one Siddha
called Bogar.  Skanda is in the form of an ascetic with stick on
his hand, instead of the Spear.  Vallimalai Swamigal, who was a
Tiruppugazh scholar had a vision where Bhagavan Ramana appeared
as Pazhani Skanda!

The poem reads as under:

I took form in the womb and was born, became a youth and
   was taken hold of my god of love.  I learnt arts but also
Went behind women, with long black tresses and fell into their
   breasts, lost my way, got old with worries and diseases,
Without contemplating Hara Hara Namasivaya, without knowing
   the Substance of the six religions,
I went to several rich people and begged for money without shame,
The tall Ranga, Vishnu, who raised his leg to the sky to subdue
   the king Mahabali and you are his nephew!
You came to the great lion-like king who knew poetry in Pugliuyur!
You are the son of Siva, who went to the house of Paravai as
The go between for Sundarmoorthy*, O Kumaresa!
You vanquished the demons and released the devas, and you
   stay as an ascetic in Pazhani!     

(* Siva went as a go between for Sundaramoorthy to pacify
Paravai, the poet's wife, when she had become angry with her husband!
This happened in Tiruvarur.)

(Source:  Tiruppugazh Verses.  Tiruppugazh Devotees' Group,
New Delhi.  Prose rendering, mine.)

Arunachala Siva. 

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Skandar Andati
« on: November 18, 2008, 11:17:19 AM »
There is one another beautiful verse, verse No. 20, in Skandar
Andati.  The verse reads as under:

Jaya tungabhadri.....  O Muruga, the Lord who is on the hands of
    Ganga, who is adored by Tungabhadra, God with Spear.
Jaya tungabhadri..... O valorous One, lover of Valli, having tunga-bhadri,
                   the leaves of a tree called tunga, on her tresses!
Jaya tungbhadri... having a stick and a rope, this victorious Yama who
                    was kicked by Siva and you are Siva's darling son!
Jaya tungabhadri...... please save me from the path illdeeds and death,
                    and remain always in my contemplation!

(Source: Skandar Andati, Tiruppugazh.  Tiruppugazh Devotees'
  Group, New Delhi.  Translation and prose rendering, mine.)

Arunachala Siva.

Nami Nandi Adigal was a pious Brahmin and a Siva worshipper, well
versed in Vedas and agamas. Once he went to Tiruvarur and prayed
to Siva, who is called Vanmika Nathar. In the temple, he suddenly wanted
to burn some oil lamps.  He came out to the bazaar but found he had
money only for buying earthern lamps and no money for oil.  He went to some Jain merchants on the street and asked for oil.  They made fun of him and said: 'Your Siva has got fire on his hand, why he needs oil
lamps?' He returned to the temple in a sad state.  Suddenly he heard
a voice saying that he need not worry and he can take water from the
well inside the temple and burn the lamps.  He did and to the amazement
of everyone, the lamps with water burned steadily for hours.  He continued this practice for a long time.  Soon this miracle came to
the knowledge of the king and he came and gave a big purse for
continuing burning of lamps with oil, everyday!

One day, Nami Nandi Adigal went for the procession of the temple
car on the streets and all people of different castes were pulling the
rope for the car.  He also joined, but he felt that he has been polluted
by lower caste people, went home after that and slept.  Next day,
he went to the temple where people of all castes were worshipping
and on each one's throat there was a blue colour, reminding him
that everyone is Siva in Tiruvarur!  The saint begged Siva's pardon
and worshipped these people as if they are Siva themselves!  After
sometime, when he grew old, Siva appeared before him and took him
to His Abode saying that his services in Siva temple were over and it
was time for him to come to Kailash!

(Source:  Periya Puranam, the Stories of 63 Siva Saints. Tamil Verses.
Saiva Siddhanta Book Publishing House, Chennai. Prose rendering,
my own.)

Arunachala Siva.   

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Gita Sara Thaalaattu
« on: November 18, 2008, 10:46:00 AM »
Gita Sara Thaalaattu is an abridgement of Srimad Bhagavad Gita,
in the form of a lullaby.  This was composed by one Tiruvenkata
Nathar.  It is in the form of a lullaby treating Krishna as a child.
This is one of the 16 books of Saiva Siddhanta Stotra Canons. 
Some of the other books are:  Siva Jnana Bodham, Sasivarna Bodham,
Kaivalya Navaneetham, Thugalaru Bodham, Jnana Vasishtam,
and Ozhivil Odukkam.

Tiruvenkata Nathar was a Siva Jnani.  His only daughter was married
at her very young age and she came back with early widowhood.  She
was living with him.  One day, after his pooja in the temple, he returned
early and he saw his daughter weeping.  On enquiry, she said:  I
was listening to the lullaby sung by the young mother next door, for
her child.  This lady was married off at the same time as me, and she
came back to her parents' house for delivery.  She gave birth to a
beautiful child and she is now singing happily with her child.  Whereas
I am leading a different life full of sorrow and agony."  On hearing
this, the father said:  'Why are you worried.  Krishna is your son.'
He purchased a silver doll of Krishna and asked his daughter to sing
lullabies.  He then, wrote this Gita Sara Taalaattu.

Once Isanya Mutt Swami, who met Bhagavan Ramana asked him
to come to his mutt and deliver a talk to the students.  Bhagavan
Ramana could not say no.  He went to the mutt and learnt that
Gita Sara Taalaattu was being taught.  He was given the book and
Bhagavan Ramana quickly glanced that book and continued the
lecture on Gita Sara Taalaattu!  The Swami and the students in
the mutt were overjoyed about  Bhagavan's versatality in teaching
that Saiva Siddhanta scripture!

(Source:  Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace, Volume 1,
Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Miracles Do Happen
« on: November 18, 2008, 10:30:49 AM »
One Sri K.R. Seshagiri Iyer, visited Bhagavan Ramana in 1915,
in Virupaksha Cave.  He spent some time with Him and composed
a song called Sri Ramana Stuti Dasakam, in Sanskrit.  He returned
to Madras in 1916 and he had a virulent attack of small pox.  The
ailment became severe and he was afraid that he would soon die
and consigned to flames.  Suddenly he thought that if he contemplated
on Bhagavan Ramana, he would be cured and Yama dared not
appraoche him.  He contemplated severely within on Bhagavan
Ramana and slowly there was less and less pain and fever.  He had
a feeling that his subtle body was being taken out and being taken
to various regions of the world and finally restored back.  He got
thereafter cured and after a long rest, he became normal and healthy.

(Source:  Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace, Volume 1.
Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva. 

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Upadesha Saram
« on: November 18, 2008, 09:28:52 AM »
The poojas, need outside objects, purity of the body and a purse
to take up expenses for flowers, fruits, betel leaves, betel nuts,
coconuts, an idol or a  salagrama etc., etc.,  It involves bodily
activities, kara, nyasa etc., etc., Mantra japa also requires movement
of lips, teeth and tongue and a Guru outside, to teach you the mantras.
But meditation on the Self does not require anything, outside in the
forms of various objects, a Guru, bodily movements etc., That is why
this is the greatest.  Bhagavan Ramana when He was in Patala Linga
did not even have a bath for several days!  His body was full of dirt
and smelling.  He did not even have a koupina sometimes!  But He
was in the Self.

This reminds me of a story about a boss of mine.  He and his wife
planned to distribute 1 lakh turmeric fingers to various married brahmin
ladies and brahmin unmarried girls.  He invited me and my wife.  We
went to his house.  In the hall, I could smell the fragrance of turmeric.
I looked out and there were bags and bags of turmeric fingers, bales
and bales of betel leaves and bags of betel nuts and baskets of flowers.
When I saw his face, that boss was grinning.  He said:  "Yes, I got
these items from a contractor, to whom I give orders of business!"
I became indignant.  Here is a man, who became corrupt, for doing
this special turmeric pooja!  I told my wife, when we returned home,
"give these turmeric fingers to the poor people, do not use them
yourself.  These are having stains of corruption."  As Shakespeare,
said in Hamlet, : Not all the poppy, nor mandragora nor all the drowsy
suyrups of Arabia, shall ever wash the blood stains of the murderer!"

Why such poojas and acquire further sins in life?   Meditate and stay
with the Self!

Arunachala Siva.   

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Upadesha Saram
« on: November 17, 2008, 03:16:17 PM »
Dear srkudai, Dr. Raju,

I am also of the same view as Dr. Raju, with srkudai.  Not all the
female flowers become unripe fruits and not all the unripe fruits
become ripe fruits.  Each one has to work out in the way of his/her
prarabdha.  Not all the priests in Siva temples, become Manikkavachagar!

Arunachala Siva.