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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Tiru Por-Chunnam
« on: November 18, 2008, 11:41:08 AM »
This is a composition of 20 verses in Tiruvachakam.  Muruganar
has also composed a similar one modelled on this.

Por-Chunnam, means two things.  One is simply golden dust or
spangles, which are thrown on the king or god, when the citizens
or devotees see them, coming back to the capital after war.  Por
Chunnam also means bathing powder, with turmeric, kasturi,
sandal paste and gold dust!

Verse 8 reads like this:

O girls of large black sword like eyes, please pound the
   porchunnam on the slab,
While your bangles make noise and your breasts swell with joy,
Chant the name of Siva, our Lord who shines with silver like
    holy ashes,
He has taken hold of us, who are lowlier than dogs by showing
    his lotus feet,
Tell his divine plays and dance and pound the porchunnam!

Verse 14 reads like this:

Let the conches blow, let the anklets sound, let us large garlands
    swing on either side,
Let our red fruit like lips quiver, o girls, sing on Siva Loka,
The Ganga makes sound, the serpent hisses, on his matted locks,
Let us sing his anklet wearing feet, let our breasts swell, let us
   pound Porchunnam!

(Source:  Tiruvachakam, Tamil Verses.  Saiva Siddhanta Book
Publishing House, Chennai.  Translation and prose rendering mine.)

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Pazhani Tiruppugazh
« on: November 18, 2008, 11:29:26 AM »
Pazhani is a place near Coimbatore, where on the Hills there is
a Skanda Temple.  Here the idol has been made with five herbal
leaves and is not of stone or metal.  This was made by one Siddha
called Bogar.  Skanda is in the form of an ascetic with stick on
his hand, instead of the Spear.  Vallimalai Swamigal, who was a
Tiruppugazh scholar had a vision where Bhagavan Ramana appeared
as Pazhani Skanda!

The poem reads as under:

I took form in the womb and was born, became a youth and
   was taken hold of my god of love.  I learnt arts but also
Went behind women, with long black tresses and fell into their
   breasts, lost my way, got old with worries and diseases,
Without contemplating Hara Hara Namasivaya, without knowing
   the Substance of the six religions,
I went to several rich people and begged for money without shame,
The tall Ranga, Vishnu, who raised his leg to the sky to subdue
   the king Mahabali and you are his nephew!
You came to the great lion-like king who knew poetry in Pugliuyur!
You are the son of Siva, who went to the house of Paravai as
The go between for Sundarmoorthy*, O Kumaresa!
You vanquished the demons and released the devas, and you
   stay as an ascetic in Pazhani!     

(* Siva went as a go between for Sundaramoorthy to pacify
Paravai, the poet's wife, when she had become angry with her husband!
This happened in Tiruvarur.)

(Source:  Tiruppugazh Verses.  Tiruppugazh Devotees' Group,
New Delhi.  Prose rendering, mine.)

Arunachala Siva. 

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Skandar Andati
« on: November 18, 2008, 11:17:19 AM »
There is one another beautiful verse, verse No. 20, in Skandar
Andati.  The verse reads as under:

Jaya tungabhadri.....  O Muruga, the Lord who is on the hands of
    Ganga, who is adored by Tungabhadra, God with Spear.
Jaya tungabhadri..... O valorous One, lover of Valli, having tunga-bhadri,
                   the leaves of a tree called tunga, on her tresses!
Jaya tungbhadri... having a stick and a rope, this victorious Yama who
                    was kicked by Siva and you are Siva's darling son!
Jaya tungabhadri...... please save me from the path illdeeds and death,
                    and remain always in my contemplation!

(Source: Skandar Andati, Tiruppugazh.  Tiruppugazh Devotees'
  Group, New Delhi.  Translation and prose rendering, mine.)

Arunachala Siva.

Nami Nandi Adigal was a pious Brahmin and a Siva worshipper, well
versed in Vedas and agamas. Once he went to Tiruvarur and prayed
to Siva, who is called Vanmika Nathar. In the temple, he suddenly wanted
to burn some oil lamps.  He came out to the bazaar but found he had
money only for buying earthern lamps and no money for oil.  He went to some Jain merchants on the street and asked for oil.  They made fun of him and said: 'Your Siva has got fire on his hand, why he needs oil
lamps?' He returned to the temple in a sad state.  Suddenly he heard
a voice saying that he need not worry and he can take water from the
well inside the temple and burn the lamps.  He did and to the amazement
of everyone, the lamps with water burned steadily for hours.  He continued this practice for a long time.  Soon this miracle came to
the knowledge of the king and he came and gave a big purse for
continuing burning of lamps with oil, everyday!

One day, Nami Nandi Adigal went for the procession of the temple
car on the streets and all people of different castes were pulling the
rope for the car.  He also joined, but he felt that he has been polluted
by lower caste people, went home after that and slept.  Next day,
he went to the temple where people of all castes were worshipping
and on each one's throat there was a blue colour, reminding him
that everyone is Siva in Tiruvarur!  The saint begged Siva's pardon
and worshipped these people as if they are Siva themselves!  After
sometime, when he grew old, Siva appeared before him and took him
to His Abode saying that his services in Siva temple were over and it
was time for him to come to Kailash!

(Source:  Periya Puranam, the Stories of 63 Siva Saints. Tamil Verses.
Saiva Siddhanta Book Publishing House, Chennai. Prose rendering,
my own.)

Arunachala Siva.   

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Gita Sara Thaalaattu
« on: November 18, 2008, 10:46:00 AM »
Gita Sara Thaalaattu is an abridgement of Srimad Bhagavad Gita,
in the form of a lullaby.  This was composed by one Tiruvenkata
Nathar.  It is in the form of a lullaby treating Krishna as a child.
This is one of the 16 books of Saiva Siddhanta Stotra Canons. 
Some of the other books are:  Siva Jnana Bodham, Sasivarna Bodham,
Kaivalya Navaneetham, Thugalaru Bodham, Jnana Vasishtam,
and Ozhivil Odukkam.

Tiruvenkata Nathar was a Siva Jnani.  His only daughter was married
at her very young age and she came back with early widowhood.  She
was living with him.  One day, after his pooja in the temple, he returned
early and he saw his daughter weeping.  On enquiry, she said:  I
was listening to the lullaby sung by the young mother next door, for
her child.  This lady was married off at the same time as me, and she
came back to her parents' house for delivery.  She gave birth to a
beautiful child and she is now singing happily with her child.  Whereas
I am leading a different life full of sorrow and agony."  On hearing
this, the father said:  'Why are you worried.  Krishna is your son.'
He purchased a silver doll of Krishna and asked his daughter to sing
lullabies.  He then, wrote this Gita Sara Taalaattu.

Once Isanya Mutt Swami, who met Bhagavan Ramana asked him
to come to his mutt and deliver a talk to the students.  Bhagavan
Ramana could not say no.  He went to the mutt and learnt that
Gita Sara Taalaattu was being taught.  He was given the book and
Bhagavan Ramana quickly glanced that book and continued the
lecture on Gita Sara Taalaattu!  The Swami and the students in
the mutt were overjoyed about  Bhagavan's versatality in teaching
that Saiva Siddhanta scripture!

(Source:  Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace, Volume 1,
Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Miracles Do Happen
« on: November 18, 2008, 10:30:49 AM »
One Sri K.R. Seshagiri Iyer, visited Bhagavan Ramana in 1915,
in Virupaksha Cave.  He spent some time with Him and composed
a song called Sri Ramana Stuti Dasakam, in Sanskrit.  He returned
to Madras in 1916 and he had a virulent attack of small pox.  The
ailment became severe and he was afraid that he would soon die
and consigned to flames.  Suddenly he thought that if he contemplated
on Bhagavan Ramana, he would be cured and Yama dared not
appraoche him.  He contemplated severely within on Bhagavan
Ramana and slowly there was less and less pain and fever.  He had
a feeling that his subtle body was being taken out and being taken
to various regions of the world and finally restored back.  He got
thereafter cured and after a long rest, he became normal and healthy.

(Source:  Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace, Volume 1.
Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva. 

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Upadesha Saram
« on: November 18, 2008, 09:28:52 AM »
The poojas, need outside objects, purity of the body and a purse
to take up expenses for flowers, fruits, betel leaves, betel nuts,
coconuts, an idol or a  salagrama etc., etc.,  It involves bodily
activities, kara, nyasa etc., etc., Mantra japa also requires movement
of lips, teeth and tongue and a Guru outside, to teach you the mantras.
But meditation on the Self does not require anything, outside in the
forms of various objects, a Guru, bodily movements etc., That is why
this is the greatest.  Bhagavan Ramana when He was in Patala Linga
did not even have a bath for several days!  His body was full of dirt
and smelling.  He did not even have a koupina sometimes!  But He
was in the Self.

This reminds me of a story about a boss of mine.  He and his wife
planned to distribute 1 lakh turmeric fingers to various married brahmin
ladies and brahmin unmarried girls.  He invited me and my wife.  We
went to his house.  In the hall, I could smell the fragrance of turmeric.
I looked out and there were bags and bags of turmeric fingers, bales
and bales of betel leaves and bags of betel nuts and baskets of flowers.
When I saw his face, that boss was grinning.  He said:  "Yes, I got
these items from a contractor, to whom I give orders of business!"
I became indignant.  Here is a man, who became corrupt, for doing
this special turmeric pooja!  I told my wife, when we returned home,
"give these turmeric fingers to the poor people, do not use them
yourself.  These are having stains of corruption."  As Shakespeare,
said in Hamlet, : Not all the poppy, nor mandragora nor all the drowsy
suyrups of Arabia, shall ever wash the blood stains of the murderer!"

Why such poojas and acquire further sins in life?   Meditate and stay
with the Self!

Arunachala Siva.   

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Upadesha Saram
« on: November 17, 2008, 03:16:17 PM »
Dear srkudai, Dr. Raju,

I am also of the same view as Dr. Raju, with srkudai.  Not all the
female flowers become unripe fruits and not all the unripe fruits
become ripe fruits.  Each one has to work out in the way of his/her
prarabdha.  Not all the priests in Siva temples, become Manikkavachagar!

Arunachala Siva. 

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Yoga Vasishtam
« on: November 17, 2008, 03:12:16 PM »
Dear srkudai,

Yoga Vasisshtam, original consists of 32,000 slokas of two lines each.
Sri Bhagvandas Vrindavana Saraswata of Kasi is reported to have
read this full version 165 times in his lifetime, like Max Mueller,
a German, spent 40 years of his adult life in reading Rig Veda.
The Kasi pandit then made a condensation consisting of 6000 slokas.
This has been further condensed into 1698 slokas by Sri Swami
Jnananda Bharati.  The Sanskrit-English version of these 1698 slokas,
have been made by one Samvid.  This has been published by
Samata Books, 10, Kamaraj Building, 573 Mount Road, Chennai -
600 006.   I have got an edition printed in 1998.  The same edition
or further reprint may be available in that address.  It was priced
when I had bought, at Rs 300.00.  With double digit inflation of
the country, the price also might have gone up.  You check up with
them and send a payment and you will get the book.

Bhagavan Ramana, known for his brevity, had selected 10 verses
from the original.     

Incidentally, what happened to your Upadesa Saram?  Already,
Dr. Raju and I are jumping the queue!

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Skandar Andati
« on: November 17, 2008, 12:06:56 PM »
Skandar Andati, Verse 23 reads like this:

Dinakara akkara, - He broke the teeth and plucked the eyes, of
                Dinakaran, the Sun, he is Siva, and you are his Teacher,
Dinakara akkara - You are the substance of Shadakshra, the
                six lettered sun-like mantra Saravanabhava, and you stay
                in Tiruchendur,
Dinakara akkara - You are praised by Vedas and dinakara akkara,
                and live in serpent (which swallowed the Sun) like mountain
                of Tiruchengode and you are having the sunlike Spear,
Dinakara akkara - You saved the sun-like city of Amaravati and the
                 devas and Indra, lest the demons would have destroyed them!

(Source: Skandar Andati, Arunagiri Natha, Tiruppugazh, Tamil.
 Saiva Siddhanta Book Publishing House, Chennai. Prose rendering mine.)

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Sri Ramana Tiru Thellenam
« on: November 17, 2008, 11:58:59 AM »
Sri Ramana Tiru Thellenam, by Muruganar is modelled on Tiru
Thellenam of Manikkavachagar in Tiruvachakam, but it comprises
of thirty verses.  This is a composition in Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai.

Verse 2 reads like this:

I was roaming in the streets like a dog and you searched for me,
And reached me and with love took hold of me, O Venkata,
With the glowing eyes of Siva Jnana, you burned my karmas,
O let us play Kummi singing His handsome feet, O god of three eyes!

Verse 5 reads like this:

He, Venkata, with his maya came to me,
Like the 'valai' * fishes jumping towards the jackfruits, hitting
   them and making the honey to ooze!
He with his love and grace robbed my mind and killed it,
Let us play Kumming, singing His love and grace!

(* Valai fishes are those which remain in tanks and rivers.  They
can jump to a high level and hit the jackfruits in the trees on
the banks, with the result the honey oozes from them!  This is
the imagery we find in many Tamil songs.)

(Source:  Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai, Tamil, 1998 edition, Sri
 Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.  Prose rendering mine.)

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Tiru Thellenam
« on: November 17, 2008, 11:39:55 AM »
Tiru Thellenam, Kummi Song, is a composition of 20 verses, by
Manikkavachagar in Tiruvachakam.  Poet Muruganar has also
composed Tiru Thellenam, modelled on this, about Bhagavan Ramana,
in Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai.

Verse 6 reads like this:

He dances with serpents on his waist,
He came to this world with his consort Uma, who is the daughter
   of the mountains Himalayas, and took hold of me,
Let us sing nice words with our shining hearts, and tears
   flowing from the eyes,
Let us play kummi and sing!

Verse 7 reads like this:

He is beyond the grasp of Hari, Brahma, Indra and devas,
But he came, called me, 'come, come!' and took hold of me on his own!
He kept his flowery feet on my head and ruled me,
Let us sing this god of gods and play kummi!

(Source:  Tiruvachakam, Manikkavachagar, Tamil. Saiva Siddhanta
Book Publishing House, Chennai.)

Arunachala Siva.   

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Tiruchengode Tiruppagazh
« on: November 17, 2008, 11:32:19 AM »
Tiruchengode is a place in Salem District in Tamil Nadu.  There is
a Siva Temple, where Siva is called Ardhanareesvara, the half woman.
The same concept is there with Triuvannamalai also.  Arunagiri Natha
has sung a song on the Skanda of this temple, in Tiruppugazh.  The
song reads as under:

I want to come to you in full devotion, without thinking about the
    five senses,
When shall I leave these women, with lust and poisonous eyes,
   and breasts like two lotuses,
And tresses which are swarmed by bees for the flowers on them?
I want to think of only you, with ever increasing love, and not
  run around thinking about these women,
O son of Siva, who dances in the golden court, and the one who
   wears the 'kadamba' flowers!
You have removed the karmas of those those prostrate you, with
    your sharp beautiful Spear!
Wherever I go and whenever I say 'Skanda' you should come
   with your Rooster flag!
O god, who lives amidst lushy paddy fields, in Tiruchengode,
    o my Master!

(Source:  Tiruppugazh, Tamil, Arunagiri Natha.  Tiruppugazh
  Devotees Group, New Delhi.  Prose rendering my own.)

Arunachala Siva.   

Kurumba Nayanar was tribal chieftain.  He was always praying to
Siva, the Lord with the Bull.  He had heard about Saint Sundaramoorthy
and his famous poem listing 60 saints of Siva.  He mentally held him
as his Guru and was constantly chanting Siva Panchakshara every day.
He used to host any number of the Siva devotees who come to his

One day, he mentally divined that Siva is calling Sundaramoorthy
back to Kailas and he is ascending the White Elephant sent by
Siva to go to the Abode.  He decided that he should not live any
further on this earth, without his Guru.  He declined food and water
and was chanting Panckahkshari.  He applied Raja Yoga techniques
and controlled his breath and was seeing Siva and Parvati.  Siva
without being able to put up with this kind of self-punishment by
his devotee, appeared before him with Uma and took him to His

(Source:  The stories of  63 Siva Saints, Tamil, Saiva Siddhanta
Book Publishing House, Chennai. )

Arunachala Siva. 

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Miracles do happen
« on: November 17, 2008, 11:11:41 AM »
Once K.K. Nambiar who was staying in Tiruvannamalai and seeing
Bhagavan Ramana, everyday, had a dream.  In the dream, he saw
the young Goanese student, who was sitting in the Hall, doing pranayama, when sparks rose from his abdoment and rose to the
head and burst.  Nambiar saw in the dream Bhagavan admonishing
the boy:  Enough of these gymnastics, please do Self enquiry, as
enunciated by me!"  The dream had ended.

Next morning, Nambiar went to the Hall and even before entering the
Hall, he found the Goanese boy at the entrance.  He advised the
boy not to have this raja yoga methods, as advised to him through
Nambiar by Bhagavan Ramana.  The boy stood dumbfounded and
said: Sir, I was about ask Bhagavan Ramana about the same thing.
He has given me His advices through you, thank you very much!
Needless to say that the boy did not proceed with that practice of
Raja yoga and turned to self enquiry.  The boy's name is Sridhar.
Nambiar meets him again after several years in Bombay.

Bhagavan Ramana thus gave advices to the seekers through another
person's dream!

(Source:  The Guiding Presence of Sri Ramana, K.K. Nambiar.
Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.