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45316
Dear Raju,  Yes.  Visions are also dual but as you say, they help us
in the process of self realization.  David Godman says that even
the visions of Ganapati Muni, seeing Bhagvan as avatara of Skanda,
Jnana Sambandha and Kumarila Bhatta, are also dual and these
may not be correct, even though the Muni made these points
in Sri Ramana Gita.  I had some exachange of comments with
David regarding this point.  I told him that I did not want to
discuss the duality of the visions, but the avatara conclusions
of Ganapati Muni are true.

Arunachala Siva.

   

45317
Dear Raju,  You have answered srkudai, on the point that
I wanted to make.  Be it atma vichara, or be it  atma samarpana,
the difficulty, is with our fattened ego.

Arunachala Siva.   

45318
General Discussion / Meeting Vladimir in T. Malai
« on: September 05, 2008, 03:12:07 PM »
Dear Vladimir,  I could see your personal message to me thorugh
the Forum, only today.  Please forgive me for not replying earlier.

I went to T. Malai during 2002 and again in May-June 2008.
Possibly, I am not the person, you are referring to and saying
that somone you met about one and a half years ago.

Arunachala Siva.

45319
General Discussion / Vichara and bodily diseases
« on: September 05, 2008, 03:08:47 PM »
Dear nondsait, I did not see your message in the Personal Message
of yours through that column in the Forum till today.  Please
forgive me. 

Vichara, confers Cosmic Consciousness, which is the Self.  It does
not cure the diseases, in the ordinary parlance.  It gives the
realized person, enormous strength to withstand the pain and
agony of such ailments, as if it is an ant bite.  It can be termed 'karmic', but again it may not be true in the case of a self realized person,
since he is beyond the three karmas, Agami, Sanchita and Prarabdha.
There are various theories on Bhagavan's terminal cancer.  But
no one has proved anything.  But the truth remains, that He
withstood it as an ant bite.


Arunachala Siva.   

45320
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Bhagavan in Dream
« on: September 05, 2008, 10:57:10 AM »
Dear Sankar and srkudai,  Dreams and visions are not substitues
for merger with Bhagavan.  But they can be useful as our prayers
to personal gods, outside.

Arunachala Siva. 

45321
Dear gangajal and srkudai,  Yes.  Surrender is as difficult as
self enquiry.   We are all doing partial surrenders thinking it
is surrender.  Total surrender is something quite different.  Saint
Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvachakam, Tiruvembavai,

" O Siva, I am your maiden, I am subservient to you always.
Our breasts will not rest in anyone's else's shoulders excepting yours!
After that, what if, if it is day or night?  I do not see either.
I do not care, even if the sun rises in any direction! "

Arunachala Siva.
 

45322
General Discussion / Re: Freedom from occupation
« on: September 04, 2008, 05:52:26 PM »
Dear srkudai and Raju, Yes.  Suddha manas operates from
the Self and is different from the thoughts of the ordinary
persons.

Arunachala Siva.


45323
General Discussion / Re: Freedom from occupation
« on: September 04, 2008, 02:15:07 PM »
Dear srkudai,  Yes, Thoughts do spring up after realization.  It
is from Suddha manas, for helping others and posterity.  Sankara
wrote many books, composed wonderful verses like  Soundarya
Lahari and Sivananda Lahari.  It the Self realized people could
not have thoughts, then the disciples and future generations
would not have any teachings, from them.  The Suddha Manas
operates in Sahaja Samadhi.

Arunachala Siva. 

45324
Dear Raju, Very nice.  I also remember his menstruation, when
he was playing the role of Radha.

Arunachala Siva.

45325
Dear srkudai,  Yes.  Sri RK suggested to act like noble souls,
gods etc.,  Even in normal worldly life, we see mediocre students
keeping the brilliant students as role models, following such
pracices like studying at regular hours, doing the homework
promptly etc., and impoving in their studies.  Many Western
devotees kept fellow seekers or Bhagavan as role models and
stopped eating meat.  Devaraja Mudaliar also adopted vegetarianism
like that.  Many ashramites got up in early mornings, which was
not their usual practice, by following Bhagavan and other Ashramites.

Sri RK, did that with intense bhavana.  It is said that he grew
a tail when he was meditating or acting like Hanuman.  During
his Islamic sadhana, he literally forgot Kali and other Hindu gods
and hated idol worship.  Intense conviction is essential.  Ribhu
Gita also says the same.  A worm inside the cocoon, intensely
meditated on the mother, and came out of the cocoon as a fly!
Saint Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvachakam:  "Natakathal
un-adiyar pol nadithu, veedahathe puguvan vizhaii hindren!"
"I am acting as your devotee and am eager to rush to Sivaloka!"

Arunachala Siva.   

45326
Dear Raju, Yes.  The Jnani is like a shuttle in the weaving
machine.  The weaver is Brahman, and the Jnani moves here
and there, or stays put, as the the weaver, Brahman wants.
He has not thinking or action of his own.  This what Saint
Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvachakam, Decad of Surrender.

Arunachala Siva.

45327
Dear Raju,  Yes.  Bhagavan Sri Ramana, is the epitome of
Ajati.  Every characteristic that is mentioned in Advaita
Vedanta sciptures, can be seen in Bhagavan Ramana.

Arunachala Siva.

45328
Dear Raju, Yes. It cannot be touched or spoken about.  That
is why, Vedas try to reach It and come back failing.

Arunachala Siva.

45329
Dear Raju,  Daksinamoorthy, Siva, is sitting under banyan tree,
which is called vada-ala-maram, in Tamil.  Here 'vada' means
uthra, the North.  He is the Spiritual North Pole, for all seekers,
His teaching is Silence.   And the sincere seekers understood his
silence and though that the Brahma tattva, the principle of Brahman.
Their doubts are cleared and they got a moksha-sadhanam, the
way to Liberation.  This is puranic meaning, though esoterically
he is formless.

Arunachala Siva. 

45330
Dear Raju, Well said.  Ganapati, is AUM, the primordial sound,
whose purport and meaning has been described by his younger
brother, Skanda to Siva.  Ganapati Muni calls himself as the elder
brother of Bhagavan Sri Ramana, in Ramana Gita.

Arunachala Siva.