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Dear karthikeyan. M.

There is no need for confusion.  Bhagavan Ramana has used one
simile.  There are toffees.  Some are green, some are yellow, some
are red.  Each child likes one particular colour and shape even though sweetness is same in all.  And that is the simile which you should keep in mind, while praying to your god, your ishta devata.  All are one.  The only other thing is:  You should not dislike or hate the other toffees, because some other child likes it!  Do not hate other gods. 
You pray to your chosen deity and then do meditation and self enquiry.  All gods merge in the Self within.

Arunachala Siva. 

General Discussion / Re: Planning in Spiritual Life ... some thoughts
« on: March 20, 2009, 09:51:33 AM »
Dear silentgreen, Matthew, Nagaraj and others.  I was in Arunachala
for the past three days and was back only last night.  The visit and darshan were wonderful.  I am sharing some thoughts under Sri
Ramana Darsanam, March 2009.

As regards, yes, no hard rule for spiritual sadhana and towards that end in life.  Planning, the ultimate would be to leave it to God, but
most of us are not able to do that.  Bhagavan Ramana says in Who am I?:  "Since every thing is run by Parameswara Sakti, why should we keep on thinking that I would do this or do that?  When one travels in a train, which carries all the load, should he still carry his small load on his head?  Why not place in the train and be happy?" 

This is ideal.  But we are not able to do since surrender is not complete in us.  A large outline of planning, may be necessary,
as in the case of job, our choice of place to live, our style of life etc.,
As otherwise, we should leave it to God by total surrender.

Arunachala Siva. 

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Some rare books
« on: March 16, 2009, 02:54:59 PM »
1)  One Sri Vilacheri Ranganatha Iyer's son has written a book called
Ramana Kalyanam.

2)  During Virupaksha days, one pandit from Madurai, had written
a Sanskrit biography of Bhagavan Ramana, titled Ramaneeya Vilasa

3)  One Sri Ramachandra Iyer, has written Tiru Dasangam, a poem of
10 verses on Bhagavan Ramana.

4)  One Ponnambala Swami has written a verse-commentary in
Tamil on Srimad Bhagavad Gita.

Arunachala Siva.       

Atmakuri Govindacharyulu has observed:

Bhagavan Ramana is the only poet who composed in Sanskrit,
Tamil, Telugu and Malayalam and His works have all appeared
in print. 

I also believe that there is no other poet in this world to match
Him in this regard.

(Source: Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace.
Volume Number 5. Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.

Once in December 1943, a bhajan party, while going around the Hill, came to Bhagavan, prostrated before Him and went round the Hall by way of pradakshina during bhajans.  Afterwards, Rajagopala Iyer,
who was in the Hall, asked Bhagavan: Is it a fact that when Bhagavan
was living in Pachaiamman Temple, some people arranged a big bhajan party and invited Bhagavan to attend it?

Bhagavan Ramana said Yes and then continued:  It is a fact.  That was in the days when the plague epidemic raged in the town.  After the epidemic was fully controlled, the police and other personnel arranged a bhajan, with fruits, sweets and other eats, soda water etc., and I was invited to attend that and they had accompanied me back to the Temple, late at night.

Iyer then asked:  Why not this is found in any biography?

Bhagavan said: Why? Is there not enough in it already?  Why tell them all this?

Iyer said:  We do not know how many such incidents have been kept off from us.

Bhagavan smiled and assumed silence.

(Source: Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace. Volume Number 5. Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.

Once Suri Nagamma wrote four verses and submitted to Bhagavan.
These were titled as Prarthana.  Bhagavan Ramana read them and
smiled.  He said about one of the poems:

"When You were in the Hill there were monkeys and
    You settled down here in the Hall.
So, why not accept my mind as monkey for service?
This monkey is after material things.
Tie it down or chastise it; but see that it does service to You!

Bhagavan Ramana further said that Sankara also wrote a similar
verse, in Sivananda Lahari.

O Sankara, You are a beggar!
Why not tie down my mind, which is a monkey to your strick?
And go about begging?
You will then get alms in abundance!

(Source: Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace,
Volume 5. Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.

We have seen how Bhagavan Ramana's first photograph in Arunachala, came to be taken by Mr. Nalla Pillai, of Kumbakonam,
in 1896.

There are three photographs of Bhagavan Ramana taken during the
last few days before Maha Nirvana, on 18th April 1950.  One of them
was taken by H. Cartier-Bresson on 4th April 1950.  Here, it is as if
we are standing at His feet, and looking at Him and He at us.  We see Him with swollen head and a huge bandage on His left arm.  His eyes are as ever, bright, shining and looking within you!   The same H.
Cartier-Bresson, is the same photographer who informed everyone that he had seen a shooting star, rising skyward and perching on the
Arunachala Hills.  But no one had taken photograph of that shooting star.   (From Mountain Path, Aradhana, 2004)

I have seen one another photograph in Tamil Sri Ramana Vijayam, where Bhagavan, more or less in a similar condition, is lying on the cot in Nirvana room and it is as if we are seeing Him, from sideways,
and He is looking through us!

Arunachala Siva.


Bhagavan Ramana has said in Who am I? : Both desire and hate
should be eschewed.  The first one, we all know.  How to remain
even eschewing hate?  We find it difficult.  We cannot but hate our
competitor in our promotional interviews.  So many such occasions.
But we should try to do that.

Once a man came to a village and saw one sadhu sitting at a tree,
doing nothing.  This man is a born hater of others.  He told the sadhu: Why are you doing nothing, sitting here.  Go and find some job.   

The sadhu kept quiet.  The man provoked started shouting at him.

O you a wastrel!

Sadhu said:  Masala Dosa!

The man continued:  O you a dog!

Sadhu said:  Payasam

The man continued with uncontrollable hate:  O you a filthy pig!

Sadhu said:  Vada

The man and the people crowded around him, asked Sadhu not understanding anything.

Sadhu replied:  Whatever a man says, he has to swallow.  Whatever
I say, I have to swallow!  (See what he is swallowing and I am swallowing!)

(Source: Mountain Path, Aradhana, 2004)

Arunachala Siva.     

General topics / Acharya Panchaksharam
« on: March 16, 2009, 10:57:24 AM »
Bhagavan Ramana has said on many occasions that Guru and God
are one and the same.  His mantra, Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya Namah: is quite famous amongst His devotees.  At the same time, if some devotee has already been initiated in a mantra,
He advised them to stick to it.  Once when a gentleman came and asked Him, whether he could switch over from his Rama mantra, to
Ramana mantra, Bhagavan categorically said: Why? Are Rama and
Ramana different?  Please continue your mantra as per initiation.

In Saiva Siddhanta the four great Saints and their names are supreme.  There are some saints among the 63, who chanted only
one of the mantras of four and got liberation.  Perumizhalai Kurumba Nayanar is a case to study.  He was devoted to Sundaramoorthy Swamigal and chanted only his mantra, that his name.  In Tamil,
if you take the name of Sundaramoorthy's classical name Nambi
Aroora, and if you omit all dotted consonants, you will get five letters only, a Panchakshara as sublime as Nama Sivaya.  It is "Na bi A roo ra"  Kurumbar was following Sivaraja Yoga.  He knew that Sundarmoorthy is ascending to Kailas in Iravatham, sent by Siva.
He chanted his name and stopped his breath and his life ebbed out through Sahasrara and he reached Kailas, earlier than Sundarmoorthy!

The other four names as Panchakshara are: (leaving dotted consonants):

Tiru Jnana Sambandha  -  Jna na sa ba dha

Manikkavachagar - Manivachagar in classical name.  Ma ni va cha ga

Tiru Navukkarasar - Na vu ka ra sa.

(Source: Smt. Parimalam's discourses in Sri Sankara TV.)

Arunachala Siva.   

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Miracles Do Happen
« on: March 16, 2009, 10:40:38 AM »
Sri K.V. Ramanan, is the grandson of N.R. Krishnamurthy Iyer, the
compiler of abridged Ribhu Gita, as per Bhagavan's advice.  He and
his two cousins came to Tiruvannamalai, when they were quite young.
All the three asked for boons from Bhagavan.  One asked: "I want
to see all the temples of Tamil Nadu."  He became an engineer in Hindu Religious Endownment Board of Tamil Nadu.  The second one asked, "I want to become an automobile engineer."  He became an automobile engineer in Neyveli.  Sri Ramanan asked: "I want to be with you!"  In the year 1977, when he was in Disergarh, and was
praying to Arunachala Hill photo, he prayed: "O Lord!  What is this?
Can you not give me Rs 2500 pm. so that I can live permanently in
Tiruvannamalai?" Like a flash it happened, he resigned and came to Tirvannamalai and settled down.  Then there, he was wondering:
"What is the purpose of my life?"  He was soon appointed as an Auditor of the Asramam, with a permanent income.  His son, that is the fourth generation, also became an auditor for Asramam accounts!

Sri Ramanan says:  By Saranagati, I became free in life!

(Source: Mountain Path, Aradhana, 2004)

Arunachala Siva.       

Dear Nagaraj,

Excellent.  Bhagavan Ramana says in Who am I?

1. God and Guru will only show you the way, but not put you
in deliverence.

2. Rama, should he go and see the mirror to know that he is Rama?
He always knows himself.  Similarly, to see the Self, within, one should see with the wisdom insight but not from others.

Arunachala Siva. 

Dear silentgreen and Nagaraj,

Bhagavan Ramana has said that Self Surrender, many say, is easy.
It is as difficult as Self enquiry.  One can read Ashtavakra Samhita
and understand that the king's self surrender, is as difficult as
self enquiry.

Arunachala Siva.

Dear karthikeyan. M

SRK Math as philosophy, approves only Advaita.  But Sri Ramakrishna's religious tolerance is well known.  He supported
all religions and sects.  Sri Ramakrishananda, who came to Madras
and started the Madras Math, the second in the whole world, after
Belur, wanted to know about Sri Ramanuja who is a Tamil scholar and visishtadvati.  Hence, Sri Ramakrishananada, read Sri Ramanuja's books and wrote a biography on him.  Sri Ramanuja's book naturally would consist ideas establishing Visishtadvata and also the Supremacy of Narayana.  Sri Ramakrishnanada is faithful to Sri
Ramanuja's philosophy while writing the biography. That is all.
Srimad Bhagavatam, written by Sage Vyasa, speaks about the supremacy of Narayana.  It says Narayana gave birth to Brahma and
Brahma gave birth to ten sons, one of them is Siva.  Sage Vyasa
is neutral.  That is why his Brahma Sutram, gives rise to interpretations by all the three great Saints.  Sankara, Sri Ramanuja
and Madhwa.  Sri Ramanuja's Brahma Sutra Bhashyam, naturally interprets Brahma Sutram, as per qualified non dualism.  Sage
Vyasa's Skandam, extols the supremacy of Skanda.  All devi slokas,
and devi bhashyam extols the supremacy of Uma.  This is not uncommon in Hindu philosophy.  Abhirami Andati says She is one,
and she became many.  That sums up the whole thing.  Sankara is
par excellent, because he extolled Advaita, Non dual Brahman.  But he also wrote numerous slokas on all the deities.  You should read Sri
Soundarya Lahari, of Sri Sankara.  He says that Uma, Sri Lalita Tripurasundari, is the greatest, and all gods including Siva, remain as four legs of her sleeping cot and Siva her bed!  Can you beat it?

Arunachala Siva.        

Muruganar's Guru Vachaka Kovai, is well known to Bhagavan's
devotees.  What is less well-known is that Muruganar recorded
many other teaching statements of Bhagavan.  Over 1500 two-line verses can be found in the long 3059 verse poem entitled Padamalai, A Garland for the Feet.

1.*  The true form of the Guru can be known only if one realizes,
through the grace of the Guru, one's own real form.

2. Do not imprison the true form of the Guru within a cage but seek
inwardly and realize it to be the formless, omnipresent expanse of

3. Only the divine grace that wells up in abundance in the form of
the Guru, can very easily put a stop to the dizzying whirl of the infatuated mind.

In the Saiva Siddhanta tradition, there are three impurities -- anava,
(ego), kanma (karma) and maya (illusion) -- that prevent devotees
from attaining the ultimate goal, oneness with the Consciousness of
Siva.  Those who have all three impurities, malas, need a human Guru to realize Sadasivam, Consciousness of Siva.  Those devotees who are only afflicted by anava and kanma, can reach Sadasivam by having Siva appear before them, in a physical form.  Many of the saints of
Periya Puranam would come into this category.  Those in the third category, whose only mala is anava, can get enlightenment through the power of the Self within, without needing either a human Guru or the darshan of an external God.  Bhagavan Ramana would be a good
example of someone who became enlightened through the power of the Self alone.  Since the devotees who fall into the second and third category are quite rare, the necessity of a human Guru is stressed.

(This explanation is from the editorial note on page 118 of Sri Ramana Darsanam.  The implication of this three fold divisions is that the human Guru is the most powerful vehicle through which grace can operate.  Muruganar subscribed to this Saiva philosophical view.)

Earlier in the same essay, Muruganar mad a similar comment about Bhagavan.  "As a result of the tapas performed in the past, only a little of anava impurity was left over, and this was as thin as the wing of a fly.

4. That which dwells within as the supreme Self is indeed that which
appears before (you) as the very visible form of the Guru.

5. The form of the Jnana-Guru that bestows an abundance of grace
is Sivam, who abides within oneself as Pure Consciousness.

6. Since the divine form, the form of the Guru assumed by Iswara,
is actually a physical embodiment of grace, that form is worthy of
being worshipped.

7. Siva-Jnana-Yoga is remaining still through the never-diminishing
grace of the Guru, who bestows true Jnana.

8. Grace will freely flow in a heart that, meditating upon the Guru as the true form of Lord Siva, becomes lost in adoration.

9. The greatness of noble disciples is that they obtain clear knowledge by trusting and believing in their heart that the Guru's
form is the embodiment of grace.

(* The numbers are not the original numbers of Padamalai verses.)

(Source: Mountain Path, Aradhana, 2003. by David Godman.)

David Godman has since published about 1700 verses of Padamalai in
English and the book is sold at Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai.

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Go, Without Fear
« on: March 15, 2009, 03:21:19 PM »
This is from the hitherto unpublished manuscript of B.V. Narasimha
Swami, dated 1929.

Kaveripatnam Post Master, Narayana Swami Iyer, waits on Maharshi
for days and before parting mentions his condition. " I am possessed
by sudden fears. What am I to do?"

Bhagavan:  What fears?

Iyer: E.g. I am afraid I will get disease?

Bhagavan:  Who gets disease? Do you get it?

Iyer: Of course, it is the body, it is my body gets it.

Bhagavan:  If you analyze what you are, you see that disease cannot
affect you?

Iyer:  I fear death, sometimes.

Bhagavan:  What are You?  Do You die?  Can You die?

Iyer:  I am Atma and the Atma is immortal.

Bhagavan:  Think of that.  Realize that.

Iyer:  I try but that does not remain in the mind long.

Bhagavan:  Practice, long practice makes perfect.

Iyer:  Meanwhile, there is suffering.

Bhagavan: There need not be any suffering -- your Vichara keeps off the suffering also.

Iyer: The mind requires to be strengthened.  Pray strengthen my mind.

Bhagavan:  Go, without fear!

(Source: Mountain Path, Jan-March 2003.)

Arunachala Siva.