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44581
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Miracles Do Happen
« on: March 23, 2009, 11:41:08 AM »
Sharon Mass writes in Mountain Path, Jan-March 2009:

The year was 1972.  The place was Guyana, South America, a
small country wedged between Venezula and Brazil, a hopeless
place, which even we the self-deprecating Guyanese labelled
The Place Behind God's Back.

I was 22 years old and slowly dying of thirst.  I felt like an outsider,
an outcaste.  I had read the book The Book of Mirdad, by Mikhail
Naimy.  Since reading Mirdad, I knew what I wanted and needed a
guide, someone to lead me out of my despair.  I had read somewhere:  When pupil is ready, the Guru will appear.  After some
years of spending life as a hippie girl, a small time journalist, I met
Margaret Cohen.  Then one day in the Indian section of local library,
I took In Days of Great Peace, by Mouni Sadhu.  I was electrified
as I read through the pages.  I wanted to see that Guru, but the photo had been torn off from the book.  I wrote to Sri Ramanasramam asking for a photo of Ramana Maharshi and permission to stay. 
V. Ganesan replied:  You are very welcome to the Asramam, along with a photo of Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi.  The miracle had
happened.  Against all the odds, my Guru had found me!

Sharon Mass reached Tiruvannamalai on 3rd December 1973, with
great difficulties, via Switzerland, London, Karachi, Bombay, Madras... through cheap aircrafts, trains, buses and finally bullock carts.

"I had finally come home!"

(Source: Mountain Path, January-March 2009)

Arunachala Siva.   

44582
General topics / Miracles Do Happen
« on: March 23, 2009, 11:24:33 AM »
Swami Tatvabodhananda writes in Mountain Path, Jan-Mar 2009
issue.

I went to Sri Ramanasramam in early 1944.

I was studying in a boarding school in Madikeri (Mercara).  My father
was a coffee  estate owner in Ponnampet.  Obviously we were quite
rich.  All of a sudden, even though I was studying in the 9th standard, I made up my mind to leave everything, go to Sri Ramana Maharshi
and take sannyasa.  I told my guardian in Madikeri to lend me Rs 100,
collected another Rs 60, from our group savings of boys and went
to Mysore by bus.  From Mysore, I went to Bangalore by bus.  From there by two trains to Tiruvannamalai, via Katpadi.

I met Sarvadhikari and told him about me.  Sarvadhikari was quite
baffled.  Nevertheless, he gave me room to stay for 3 days.  I had
no dhotis, so I went to the Hall to see the Maharshi, in gabardine
pants and silk shirt.  I saw Chadwick there.  As soon as I saw Maharshi, I found Him looking at me intently.  I sat for a long time,
with legs crossed and went on weeping!  Tears were flowing spontaneously and without end. Bhagavan Ramana continued to look at me intently.  Now I controlled my tears and was weeping with out noise!  At lunch, I sat near Him.  They had served rice to Him.  Bhagavan took a little of rice and placed it in my hand.  I started eating happily. 

On the appointed day, Sarvadhikari sent me a Note inside the Hall
which stated that I should catch the train to go to Katpadi.  I kept quiet.  Mouni Sadhu was sitting in the Hall. Someone whispered to
me: Pesungo, Pesungo!  (please talk, please talk). Then Bhagavan
Ramana Maharshi Himself talked to me in Tamil: "Nee Sadhu aagappore Samayam varudu!  Nee ippe pogalam!  ( The time is
approaching when you will become a sannyasi.  Now you can go!).

I could not say anything more.  I went to the Asramam Office, bought
Who am I and a biography in English.  I donated Rs 30 to the Asramam.

On arriving at Mysore, I bought ochre khadi dhoti and jubba.  I went
to the jungles of Madikeri and stayed there.*

(* Later he was found out by his parents, brought home back, he studied for some more years in the boarding school and eventually with parents' permission, joined Sri Ramakrishna Math, Mysore.)

(Source: Mountain Path, Jan-Mar 2009.)

Arunachala Siva.

44583
There is one story about Poet Idaikadar.  Once the poet wrote a
beautiful poem and took it to the king, Kulesa Pandya, in Madurai
court.  He read out the poem, expecting that the king would enjoy
his poetry and also give some gifts.  The king did not know how to
enjoy the nieceties of poetry and sat like a stone.  He also did not
gift anything to Idaikadar.  The poet became very sad, went straight
to Somasundara - Meenkashi temple and read out the poem and cried
to Siva:  "O God! I am ashamed.  The king does not understand this
poem."  Siva said: "O my devotee, do not worry.  I love this poem so
much, that I would like to listen to it everyday.  So I and Uma are
coming to your place."  Siva and Uma went to the bank of Vaigai river and stayed in a small hut there to listen to the poet's songs.  Next
morning, the devotees who went to the temple, found the Siva Lingam missing!  They all searched.  The king became panicky.  Someone then told that Siva Linga is in a hut on the banks of Vaigai, near Idaikadar's
small house there.  The king and subjects rushed there and prostrated before Siva.  The king knelt down and wept before Siva.  Siva said:
"This is for your treatement of Idaikadar.  Go and take him to the palace on a golden palanquin, sit before him on floor and listen to his poems!"  The king quickly called Idaikadar and tendered his apology
and did what Siva had said.  Siva and Meenakshi resumed to the
Temple thereafter.

(Source: Tiru ViLaiyadal Puranam, Sage Paranjyoti.  Tamil Verses.
Sri Kasi Math, TirupanandaL, near Thanjavur.)

Arunachala Siva.   

44584
General topics / How can Krishna marry 16000 wives?
« on: March 23, 2009, 10:48:23 AM »
We see in Bhagavatam that Krishna married 16,000 wives (Vallabacharya corrects the score as 16,110!) and also enjoyed
Gopis some of whom were other men's wives.  The qualified non-
dualism has no answer for this.  Advaita says that you are the Self.
Every being is the Self.  Then it is the Self touching the Self or
marrying the Self, the One without a second.  You are travelling
in a bus.  If you touch a woman's breast sitting nearby, you will
be lynched.  Suppose I touch my own chest, who will ask me or
doubt me.  This is the answer for Krishna marrying 16000 wives.
Saint Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvachakam, Tiru Padai Atchi:

I shall not be able to see His eyes and rejoice!
I shall be able to see the beautiful eyes of women and rejoice!
I shall not be able to apply Holy Ashes on my forehead!
I shall dance with women with breasts like champagne glases!

How is it?

Because I am the Self, I am Sivam.  As Sivam, what if, if I do not
wear holy ashes on my forehad?  As Sivam, how I can see my eyes
and rejoice?  As Sivam, I can see beautiful eyes of women and
rejoice, because there is no one other than Me.   So is my dance with
women with breasts like champagne glasses!

This Sivanubhuti.

Arunachala Siva.   

44585
General topics / Re: Electronic version of Padamalai and other works?
« on: March 23, 2009, 10:36:15 AM »
Dear Matthew,

e-versions of Sri Ramanasramam books are not available.  And so
are David Godman's books.  However, a small excerpt of some of
these books can be seen in David Godman's blog.

Arunachala Siva.

44586
Dear karthikeyan. M

The English prose rendering of Periya Puranam published by Sri
Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, is by one Rangachari.  The original
sources are Tiru Thondar Thohai by Sundaramoorthy, which lists all the 60 (the remaining three being Sundarmoorthy himself and his
mother and father). This is part of his own composition which comes
under Book VII of Saiva Canons.   A slightly more elaborate Tamil composition is Tiruthondar Tiruvandati, by Nambi Andar Nambi, which comes in Book XI of Saiva Canons.  A good prose version in Tamil is by
Kripananda Variayar titled Sivan Arut Selvar.  I go by original
Tamil verses of Periya Puranam, by Sekkizhar, which is Book XII of
Saiva Canons.  This is a composition of about 4500 delightful verses.

The English version of Rangachari and Tamil version of Kripananda
Variyar would serve the purpose.  The Tamil book is published by
Vanadhi Padippagam, T Nagar, Chennai 600 017.

Arunachala Siva.

44587
General Discussion / Re: Naan Kadavul
« on: March 23, 2009, 10:24:54 AM »
Dear karthikeyan. M

I did not see that movie.  Literally it means: I am God or the Self.

Arunachala Siva.

44588
General topics / Re: Flash of light atop the hill
« on: March 22, 2009, 03:40:46 PM »
Dear munagala,

I am not sure.  I have not seen such flashes of light.

Arunachala Siva.

44589
General topics / Isanya Jnana Desikar's Samadhi in Tiruvannamalai
« on: March 22, 2009, 12:54:55 PM »
Isanya Jnana Desikar's Samadhi is in Isanya Math, near Isanya Lingam in Tiruvannamalai.  I visited this place during my recent
visit to Tiruvannamalai.  His Math is now being taken care of by
Kovilur Math, whose Head fed Bhagavan Ramana on a day during His days.

Isanya Jnana Desikar was born near Kanchipuram.  His childhood
name was Kandappan (Skanda).  When he grew as a youth, he refused marriage and went away from home, with the blessings of the parents and lived in Tiruvannamalai.  Several devotees, particularly one Muthuramalingam and Arunachala Chetty served him food and milk.  He was constantly in Siva dhyana.  Once one British by name Idan, met him and found Desikar playing with tigers as if they were kittens!  He prayed to him and became his disciple!  He wanted to donate huge amounts to Desikar which Desikar refused.  The British then donated the amounts to Arunachaleswara Temple, as per Desikar's wish.  Desikar once saved the British from drowning into the flash floods in a village river. 

Desikar at the appropriate time, took a seat facing South and prayed to Siva Nataraja and then merged into Siva Effulgence!  The devotees
then built a Samadhi for Desikar and installed a Siva Lingam.  Desikar lived for about 79 years.  His famous works are Swanubhava Mala,
Jnana Kattalai (The Directions for Jnana), Annmalai Venba, Annamalai Kanni and Annamalai Stuti.

(Source: A booklet published by Kovilur Math, Kovilur.)

Arunachala Siva.

44590
General topics / Re: Veda Vyasa of each Kalpa
« on: March 22, 2009, 12:41:20 PM »
Dear munagala,

There is a gentleman by name Mr. Natesan in Tiruvannamalai.  He
is the Secretary of Kavyakanta Ganapati Sastri Devotees Sangh.
He has given some details about Kala Jnana work of Sastri, in a Tamil book titled Kavyakanta Ganaapati Munivar, written by one Muruganandan.  Several unpublished manuscripts of Sastri are said to be with that Sangh.

Arunachala Siva. 

44591
TiruViLaiyadal Puranam, of Sage Paranjyoti, describes the 64 Holy
Plays of Siva in Madurai.  We have seen some stories already.

There was one Siddha who was constantly meditating on Siva on a
grove on the outskirts of Madurai.  Once Abhisheka Pandya, the king
who was coming on a horseback on that side was wondering who that man could be.  He went near and stood.  The Siddha did not care.  After some minutes, the Pandya in his usual royal arrogance became
angry and wanted to wake up the Siddha.  The soldiers told him not to do so.  He shook the Siddha and woke him up.  He then asked him:
Who are you?   The Siddha answered:  I am a Siva Yogi.  The king then asked him:  Why are you wasting time here?  Why don't you go and work on the fields?  The Siddha did not lose his balance and simply moved away.  The soldiers with the king told him that he should not have treated the Siddha like that and the Siddha was capable of many miracles.

A few days later, the king again met this Siddha on the precincts of Meenakshi temple  in the city.  The king again found the Siddha keeping quiet, with closed eyes, not even attending to the Arti in the temple.  The king said:  O! You are a great Siddha.  You do not even care for the king.   Why don't you do some Siddhi in my presence?"
The Siddha then answered:  "I am not doing any miracles though I am capable.  I am only in the bliss of Siva constantly."  The king then said: "No.  You should show your powers to me."  He then took some sugarcanes from the nearby temple fields and asked the Siddha to make the stone elephant on the precinct to eat them!

The Siddha then went near the stone elephant and gave the sugarcanes.  The elephant opened its eyes, extended its trunk,
took the sugarcanes happily and crushed them and ate them.  The
sugarcane juice oozed from its mouth!  The king was flabbergasted.
He knelt down before the Siddha and asked for forgiveness.  The
Siddha smiled and said:  "O!  It is fine.  Do not misbehave with Siddhas and Sivajnanis henceforth!"   The king pleaded the Siddha to bless him with a male child. The Siddha said:  "Eat the remaining sugarcanes.  You will get a male child."  The Siddha left the place
in all equipoise and the king was blessed with a male child in one year!

(Source: TiruviLaiyadal Puranam, Sage Paranjyoti.  Sri Kasi Math,
TiruppanandaL, near Thanjavur.  Translation and Prose rendering mine.)

Arunachala Siva.   

44592
General Discussion / Re: The Elections are coming!
« on: March 22, 2009, 10:47:41 AM »
Lallu Prasad Yadav says (after the break of seat sharing arrangements):  Congress will learn a lesson!

Congress says (after the Varun Gandhi episode):  BJP will learn a lesson!

BJP says: (on the Third front):  The Communists will learn a lesson.

When people would say:  All of you guys, will learn a lesson!

Arunachala Siva.

44593
General topics / How to pray to one's mother and others?
« on: March 22, 2009, 10:36:29 AM »
Anyone should pray to his mother, by keeping the palms together,
just above the stomach.  This is to thank the mother for giving the
birth to him from her womb.

Anyone should pray to others, by keeping the palms together, on
the chests.  This is to say everyone is having the Self within the chest and the Self is praying to the Self.

Anyone should pray to Guru, by keeping the palms together, on
forehead.  This to thank him for directing the buddhi in proper ways.

Anyone should pray to God with raised hands and folded plams.
This is to say that God should take him to the Heavens above.

Arunachala Siva.     

44594
General topics / Kavyakanta's poetry
« on: March 22, 2009, 10:31:41 AM »
Kavyakanta Ganapati Sastri is known for his great poetic skills in
Sanskrit.  Once in a debate with Amba Datta in Navadweepa, he
made the following quizzical poems:

1. Parvati does not even see Siva's face twice in a month. Why?

Ans:  Because twice in a month, there is fourth day moon (chaturthi),
when one should not see the moon on that day.  Since Siva has got
a crescent moon on His head, Parvati does not see Him for two days
in a month.

2.  There is a girl is shamelssly showing her breasts to her
father in law, on a hot summer evening.  Who?

Ans:  Hitumbi, the wife of Bheema, is having persipiration on a summer evening.  She removes her upperclothes to get some air
by fanning with that uppercloth.  Her father in law (Vayu - air)
is seeing her bared breasts!  Bheema is Vayuputra. Hence Vayu is
Hitumbi's father in law!

Arunachala Siva.

44595
Dear silentgreen,

I am not sure.  M.S. Subbalakshmi agreed to take up a lot of free
concerts (that is, she did not charge anything and all proceeds were
donated) for the sake of various buildings in the Asramam, after
Bhagavan's Maha Nirvana.  She did this work for several years.
She went to Mumbai, Delhi and Kolkata for such music concerts.
In some of them, she must have sung Sat Darsanam also, because
the books say that she puchased books containing Bhagavan Ramana's works for the music concerts.  But Sri Ramanasramam does not sell her cassettes.

Arunachala Siva.