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One needs to be dispassionate in objective analysis in order to avoid hasty conclusions.
Swami Vivekananda said true religion take you to the limits of reason and then  transcends it but never violates the canons of reason.  It is worthless to keep in mind a popular Subhaashitam (often cited by Bhagavan), saying that 'one should accept what is uttered by even a callow youth if it appeals to reason but reject as a trivial blade of grass anything that violates rational logic if uttered by Lotus born Brahma, the Creator. Hard core Advaitic understanding demands this fundamental tenet to be adhered to scrupulously, lest one gets carried away by sentimental attachments or emotional loyalties to personalities however famous they may be.

We can safely say that words can reveal knowledge when well used (Katha Upanishad 1.2.8) in line with scriptural reasoning but obfuscate when handled flippantly and divert the quest off the mark.  Perverse dialectics can turn out to be baneful if we are not vigilant.  If words themselves can reveal knowledge, then does it not amount to Enlightenment being purely a matter of intellectual understanding which negates all intuitive experience, mystical or supra mental that transcend the mind?

No, we say - words can 'reveal' (when taught by a Sadguru, charged as they are with his ineffable Grace) through the implication (lakshyartha) and right guidance by the so called 'leading error principle' (samvaadi bhrama) and not directly by their literal meaning (Vachyaartha).


Arunachala Siva.                 

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 12:54:34 PM »
Verse  11:

அந்தண்நல் லாரகன் காழியுள் ஞானசம்
பந்தன்நல் லார்பயில் பாதிரிப் புலியூர்தனுள்
சந்தமாலைத் தமிழ்பத்தி வைதரித் தார்கண்மேல்
வந்துதீயவ் வடையாமை யால்வினை மாயுமே.

In Pātiri Puliyūr where good people are crowded, sung by Jnana Sambandhan in the wide Sirkazhi, which has Brahmins in large numbers, the acts good and bad will vanish as evils will not come to approach people who retain in their minds these ten-
Tamizh verses, which are garlands having rhythmic movement.

Padigam on Tirup Pathirip Puliyur completed.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 12:50:44 PM »
Verse  10:

உரிந்தகூறை யுருவத் தொடுதெரு வத்திடைத்
திரிந்துதின்னுஞ் சிறுநோன் பரும்பெருந் தேரரும்
எரிந்துசொன்னவ் வுரைகொள் ளாதேயெடுத் தேத்துமின்
புரிந்தவெண் ணீற்றண்ணல் பாதிரிப்புலி யூரையே.

People of this world praise only Patirip Puliyūr, of the chief who desires the white sacred ash, without listening to the words which were spoken out of jealousy by the big Buddhists and the low Jains who observe religious austerities wandering in the streets with bodies stripped off their clothes.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 08:15:08 AM »
Verse  9:

அன்னந்தாவும் மணியார் பொழின்மணியார் புன்னை
பொன்னந் தாதுசொரி பாதிரிப் புலியூர்தனுள்
முன்னந்தாவி அடிமூன் றளந்தவன் நான்முகன்
தன்னந்தாளுற் றுணராத தோர்தவ நீதியே.

In Pātirip Puliyūr where the beautiful mast-wood trees in the beautiful garden in which the swans leap, shed their pollen, Vishnu who measured long ago with this feet the three worlds and four faced Brahma, the god, Siva, who is the right conduct of penance, remains, whose head and feet could not be known even a little, though both of them made efforts.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 08:11:53 AM »
Verse  8:

வீக்கமெழும் மிலங்கைக் கிறை விலங்கல்லிடை
ஊக்கமொழிந் தலறவ் விரலாலிறை யூன்றினான்
பூக்கமழும் புனற் பாதிரிப் புலியூர்தனை
நோக்கமெலிந் தணுகா வினைநுணு குங்களே.

Siva fixed his toe for a short while to make the King of Lanka, who had rising pride, to lose his zeal and roar under the mountain. To have a vision of Partirip Puliyūr which has water in which flowers spread their fragrance, our acts will become weaned and will not approach us and will become thin.

Arunachala Siva.


General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 08:08:25 AM »
Verse  7:

கொங்கரவப் படுவண் டறைகுளிர் கானல்வாய்ச்
சங்கரவப் பறையின் னொலியவை சார்ந்தெழப்
பொங்கரவம் முயர் பாதிரிப் புலியூர்தனுள்
அங்கரவம் அரையில் அசைத்தானை அடைமினே.

In the sea-shore garden where the bees which rub the pollen in the flowers hum noisily, the sound of the conches rises accompanied by the sound of the drum which can produce a loud sound. In Pātirip Puliyūr, where sounds which are increasing in tempo are always loud. People of this world!  approach Siva who tied a cobra in his waist.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 08:05:08 AM »
Verse  6:

மதியமொய்த்த கதிர்போ லொளிம்மணற் கானல்வாய்ப்
புதியமுத்தந் திகழ் பாதிரிப் புலியூரெனும்
பதியில்வைக்கப் படுமெந்தை தன்பழந் தொண்டர்கள்
குதியுங்கொள்வர் விதியுஞ் செய்வர் குழகாகவே.

The hereditary devotees of our father to whom due regard is paid in the city of Pātirip Puliyūr where the fresh pearls glitter in the sea-shore garden where the spinning sand glitters like the rays of the moon which are crowded, will jump our of ecstasy, will create beautifully destiny also.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 08:01:15 AM »
Verse  5:

ஆகநல்லார் அமுதாக்க வுண்டான் அழலைந்தலை
நாகநல்லார் பரவந்நயந் தங்கரை யார்த்தவன்
போகநல்லார் பயிலும் பாதிரிப் புலியூர் தனுள்
பாகநல்லா ளொடுநின்ற எம்பர மேட்டியே.

Uma who is in his body changed the poison into nectar and so Siva consumed it.
He who tied a cobra of five-hoods desiring it, to be praised by good people,
in Pātirip Puliyūr where good people enjoying all pleasures of life are crowded,
is the god in the most exalted place who remains there with lady as his half.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 07:58:05 AM »
Verse  4:

போதினாலும் புகையாலும் உய்த்தே அடியார்கள்தாம்
போதினாலே வழிபாடு செய்யப் புலியூர் தனுள்
ஆதிநாலும் அவலம் மிலாதஅடி கள்மறை
ஓதிநாளும் இடும்பிச்சை யேற்றுண் டுணப்பாலதே.

The devotees carrying and directing flowers and incense, to worship at the proper times, the deity who is without fault by anything in Puliyur; Chanting the Vēdas daily, is it proper for him to eat receiving alms that is given?

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 07:54:31 AM »
Verse  3:

மருளினல்லார் வழிபாடு செய்யும் மழுவாளர்மேல்
பொருளினல்லார் பயில் பாதிரிப் புலியூருளான்
வெருளின்மானின் பிணை நோக்கல்செய்து வெறிசெய்தபின்
அருளிஆகத் திடைவைத் ததுவும் மழகாகவே.

Siva who has a battle-axe whom the good people without bewilderment of mind worship, who is in Patirip Puliyūr where good people who have no superior to them are crowded. Fixing his gaze on Uma, who is like the female deer with startled looks;
and striking fear in her, bestowing his grace, placing her in his body is also to add beauty.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 07:51:25 AM »
Verse  2:

கொள்ளிநக்க பகுவாய பேய்கள் குழைந்தாடவே
முள்ளிலவம் முதுகாட் டுறையும் முதல்வன்இடம்
புள்ளினங்கள் பயிலும் பாதிரிப் புலியூர்தனை
உள்ள நம்மேல் வினையாயின ஒழியுங்களே.

Ghosts which have a wide open mouths in which fire in shining, to dance, their minds becoming tender, the place of the chief who dwells in the cremation ground where red-flowered silk cotton trees grow, to meditate on Pātirip Puliyūr where flocks of birds are always living. The acts, good and bad which are with us will cease.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 27, 2017, 07:47:41 AM »
Tirup Patirip Puliyur:

Verse  1:

முன்னநின்ற முடக்கான் முயற்கருள் செய்துநீள்
புன்னைநின்று கமழ்பா திரிப்புலி யூருளான்
தன்னைநின்று வணங்குந் தனைத்தவ மில்லிகள்
பின்னைநின்ற பிணியாக் கையைப்பெறு வார்களே.

Siva who is in Pātirippuliyūr where the tall mast-wood tree spreads its fragrance without ceasing, having bestowed his grace to a hare with a crippled leg which remained there, long ago [A sage by name Mankanar was cursed to become a hare with crippled leg and he was freed from that curse in this shrine].  Those who have not so much of good fortune as to worship Siva in this shrine will obtain a body here to all diseases which never leave them, in the next birth.

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: March 26, 2017, 04:09:11 PM »
Today is Dhandi Adigal Nayanar guru puja, (liberation day):

Today is the Nayanar's liberation day.   

Panguni Sadhayam star day.

I have given the detailed life story of Dhandi Adigal Nayanar in my serial post
on 63 Saiva Saints.  Please look into them to know the life story of the Nayanar.

Arunachala Siva.   

31.  Even giving away millions in charity is nothing compared to the abidance of 'I am Brahma. All pleasures are just like grass when compared to the abidance of 'I am Brahman.'

32.  The fruit of the disposition 'Brahman is indeed, all' is verily itself.  The equivalent of the abidance of 'I am Brahman' is Brahman alone.

33. Therefore, even while in dream and at all other times, having renounced all with effort, I am Brahman.  There is no doubt of this.  I am my own refuge,

34. I, indeed, am ever, naught else. I alone am ever the Guru. I am the supreme Self.
I alone, am, never another.

35.  I alone the Guru and the disciple. Be of the certainty 'I alone am'.  The limited world pointed out as 'this' is naught.


Arunachala Siva.               

General Discussion / Re: Two Lovers, One Beloved - Margaret Laulor:
« on: March 26, 2017, 12:53:41 PM »
In the  Interior Castle, written between June and November, 1577, she describes her vision of the soul as 'most beautiful crystal globe, made in the shape of a castle, and containing seven mansions, in the seventh of which was the King of Glory, in the greatest splendor, illumining and beautifying them all. The nearer one got to the center, the stronger was the light; outside the palace limits everything was foul, dark and infected with the toads, vipers and other venomous creatures.' (St. Teresa of Avila, Interior Castle, Tr. E. Allison Peers, Garden City: Image Books, 1961).  The soul advances through the mansions, in its quest for perfection and communion with God. (Life, p. 109). The first three mansions correspond to the Purgative stage.

Teresa declares in the first mansion that we are made in the image and likeness of God, but through our own fault 'we do not understand ourselves or know who we are.'
If we understand ourselves we will 'strive to remove the pitch which blackens the crystal.'  In order to know ourselves we must seek to know God. That is to be achieved through embracing the cross:  'let her (him) who is capable of the greatest sufferings suffer most for Him.'  After much physical suffering in her own life she came to scorn her poor health: 'Even if I die it is of little consequence. Rest, indeed.. I need no rest; what I need is crosses.'


Arunachala Siva.


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