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General topics / Re: Siddha Siddhi - John Grimes:
« on: March 03, 2017, 11:00:35 AM »
When Sri Ramana was asked in a court suit with the Government above the ownership of the Hill (Arunachala), Bhagavan replied, 'Siva always remains in three forms: (1) as Parabrahman Rupa; (2) as Linga Rupa; (3) as Siddha Rupa.' (Talks 492).

In the Sri Arunachala Mahatmya, Siva says, 'Though in fact fiery, my lack-luster appearance as a Hill on this spot is an act of grace for the maintenance of the world. I also abide here as the Siddha.' (Collected Works of Ramana Maharshi). 

Bhagavan made this clear by stating when a devotee raised a doubt about the difference between a Siddha and a Jnani. He replied:

'The Gita questions were asked in a certain spirit.  The answers were according to it. People look to the body only and they want Siddhis also.  With Self Realization no powers can extend even into it, how can they extend beyond?  People anxious for Siddhis are not content with their idea of Jnana and so want Siddhis associated with it. They are likely to neglect the supreme happiness of Jnana and aspire for Siddhis. For this they are going through the by lanes instead of the royal path and so will likely lose their way.  In order to guide them aright and keep them on the royal road alone the Siddhis are said to accompany Jnana.  In fact Jnana comprises all, and a Jnani will not waste even a thought on them.  Let the people get Jnana and then seek Siddhis if they so desire.

I have said: sarira samsrayah siddhayah (the siddhis relate to the body), because their outlook is concerning the body.  A Jnani and Siddha are not different.  In varan
datum (to bestow boons) the boons include Atmalabha (the gain of the Self) also.  The siddhis are not merely of an inferior order but of the highest order.' 

(Talks No. 57).         

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.

2702
General topics / Re: Siddha Siddhi - John Grimes:
« on: March 03, 2017, 10:43:39 AM »
Sri Ramana sometimes would say that whether a Siddha possesses Siddhis or not is due
to his destiny.  However, whether they come or not, the Jnani, the Siddha, is not disturbed by them.  Bhagavan said that the Siddha who is firmly settled in the Self,
in Sahaja Samadhi, knows that such a one is the Self and that is the unshakable Siddhi. It has often been noted that Sri Ramana, like Sri Ramakrishna and others before him, had no use for miraculous powers.  A true seeker should pursue the Self and not supernatural powers. 

'Telepathy or radio enables one to see and hear from afar.  They are all the same, hearing and seeing.  Whether one hears from the near or far does not make any difference in hearing. The fundamental factor is the hearer, the subject.  Without the hearer or the seer, there can be no hearing or seeing.  The latter are the functions of the mind.  The occult powers (Siddhis) are therefore only in the mind.  They are not natural to the Self.  That which is not natural, but acquired, cannot be permanent, and is not worth striving for. (Talks. Talks 20).

'Occult powers will not bring happiness to anyone, but will make him all the more miserable!"

Moreover what are these powers for?  The would-be occultist (Siddha) desires to display the Siddhis so that others may appreciate him.  He seeks appreciation, and if it is not forthcoming he will not be happy.  There must be others to appreciate him. He may even find another possessor of higher powers.  That will cause jealousy and breed unhappiness.  The higher occultist (Siddha) may meet a still higher Siddha and so on until there will come one who will blow up everything in a trice.  Such is the highest adept (Siddha) and He is God or the Self. 

Which is the real power?  It is to increase prosperity or bring about peace?  That which
results in peace is the highest perfection (Siddhi). (Talks.)

This is obviously true from one perspective.  However, there is another perspective to consider.  Bhagavan sated in the Sri Ramana Gita, compiled by Ganapati Muni, 'The glory of the Siddhas is beyond imagination.  They are equal to Siva. Indeed they are the very forms of Siva.  They have the power to grant every prayer.'   (Sri Ramana Gita, Chapter XVIII, verse 26.)

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.               

2703
General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:44:58 AM »
Verse  11:

பெயரெ னும்மிவை பன்னி ரண்டினு முண்டெ னப்பெயர் பெற்ற வூர்திகழ்
கயலுலாம் வயல்சூழ்ந் தழகார் கலிக்காழி
நயன டன்கழ லேத்தி வாழ்த்திய ஞான சம்பந்தன் செந்த மிழுரை
உயருமா மொழிவார் உலகத் துயர்ந்தாரே.


In Sirkazhi, of great bustle which is full of beauty as it is surrounded by fields in which carps move about, which is eminent by the fact of its having these twelve names among which Sirkazhi is included. Praising the feet of the god who is the right conduct and dancer, in this world those are eminent people who will recite the verses done in chaste Tamizh by Jnana Sambandhan, which are in the form of benediction.

Padigam on Sirkazhi completed.

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:40:20 AM »
Verse 10:


பிண்ட முண்டுழல் வார்க ளும்பிரி யாது வண்டுகி லாடை போர்த்தவர்
கண்டு சேரகிலார் அழகார் கலிக்காழித்
தொண்டை வாயுமை யோடு கூடிய வேட னேசுட லைப்பொ டியணி
அண்டவா ணனென்பார்க் கடையா வல்லல்தானே.


The Jains who roam about eating balls of cooked rice, and the Buddhists who always cover their bodies with a yellow robe without removing it, have not the capacity to reach Siva realizing his greatness. In Sirkazhi, of great bustle and much beauty.
suffering will not reach those who praise god as, Hunter who is united with Uma, whose lips are like the fruits of the common creeper of the hedge, resident of the universe who smears the ash in the cremation ground!

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:37:02 AM »
Verse  9:

பரும ராமொடு தெங்கு பைங்கத லிப்ப ருங்கனி யுண்ண மந்திகள்
கருவரா லுகளும் வயல்சூழ் கலிக்காழித்
திருவி னாயக னாய மாலொடு செய்ய மாமலர்ச் செல்வ னாகிய
இருவர் காண்பரியா னெனவேத்துத லின்பமே.


When the female monkeys are eating the big fruits of the green plaintain, coconut palm and big common Kadamba. It gives pleasure to praise the god as one who could not be found out by both the Vishnu who is the husband of Lakshmi and the god who is seated in the big and red (lotus) flower.

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:33:20 AM »
Verse  8:


மைத்த வண்டெழு சோலை யாலைகள் சாலி சேர்வய லார வைகலுங்
கத்து வார்கடல் சென் றுலவுங் கலிக்காழி
அத்த னேயர னேய ரக்கனை யன்ற டர்த்துகந் தாயு னகழல்
பத்தராய்ப் பரவும் பயனீங்கு நல்காயே.

To spread over the fields of red variety of paddy and sugar-canes, and gardens from which black bees rise after drinking honey, in Sirkazhi, of great bustle where the long and roaring sea moves about. Bestow on me the benefit of praising as a devotees your feet saying Father "Hara! One who became great by crushing the demon in the distant past!" in this birth itself.

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:30:02 AM »
Verse  7:


தான லம்புரை வேதிய ரொடு தக்க மாதவர் தாந்தொ ழப்பயில்
கானலின் விரைசேர விம்முங் கலிக்காழி
ஊனு ளாருயிர் வாழ்க்கை யாயுற வாகி நின்றவொ ருவனே யென்றென்
றானலங் கொடுப்பார் அருள்வேந்த ராவாரே.


In Sirkazhi, of great bustle where the fragrance of the sea-shore grove combines with others and increases and where the worthy great ascetics gather together along with Brahmins of good qualities and eminence, praising the god as the unequaled god who is the relation and the precious life that exists in the body. Those who give the five products from the cow will be kings in the matter of possessing the god's grace.

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:27:09 AM »
Verse  6:


மற்று மிவ்வுல கத்து ளோர்களும் வானு ளோர்களும் வந்து வைகலுங்
கற்ற சிந்தையராய்க் கருதுங் கலிக்காழி
நெற்றி மேலமர் கண்ணி னானை நினைந்தி ருந்திசை பாடு வார்வினை
செற்றமாந் தரெனத் தெளிமின்கள் சிந்தையுளே.

In Sirkazhi, of great bustle where the people of this world and celestial beings come and meditate daily, with a mind, having learnt to worship god. People of this world!
Be clear in your minds that those who sing the fame with music meditating on the god who has a frontal eye, are people who have destroyed their sins.

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:23:29 AM »
Verse  5:


மலிக டுந்திரை மேனி மிர்ந்தெதிர் வந்து வந்தொளிர் நித்திலம் விழக்
கலிக டிந்தகையார் மருவுங் கலிக்காழி
வலிய காலனை வீட்டி மாணிதன் இன்னு யிரளித் தானை வாழ்த்திட
மெலியுந் தீவினைநோய் அவைமேவுவார் வீடே.


As the shining pearls fall coming very often crowded on the quickly flowing waves,
in Sirkazhi, of great bustle where the donors who completely remove the poverty of supplicants. If one praises the god who protected the previous life of the Brahmachari, killing the strong Yama (God of death) his sins and diseases will perish, and will attain eternal bliss.


Arunachala Siva.

 

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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:20:14 AM »
Verse  4:

மையி னார்பொழில் சூழ நீழலில் வாச மார்மது மல்க நாடொறும்
கையி னார்மலர் கொண்டெழுவார் கலிக்காழி
ஐய னேயர னேயென் றாதரித் தோதி நீதியு ளேநி னைப்பவர்
உய்யு மாறுலகில் உயர்ந்தாரி னுள்ளாரே.


As the parks on which clouds rest, in the shade the fragrant honey increases in quantity, in Sirkazhi of great bustle where the devotees start full of flowers in their hands, to worship the god daily. Treating with regard saying, Master, Hara!
and those who think with right conduct uttering those names, are among those exalted in virtue to save themselves from the cycle of birth and death.

Arunachala Siva.

2711
General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:16:42 AM »
Verse  3:

நாடெ லாமொளி யெய்த நல்லவர் நன்று மேத்தி வணங்கு வார்பொழிற்
காடெ லாமலர் தேன்துளிக்குங் கடற்காழித்
தோடு லாவிய காது ளாய்சுரி சங்க வெண்குழை யானென் றென்றுன்னும்
வேடங் கொண்டவர்கள் வினை நீங்கலுற்றாரே.


In Sirkazhi, which is in proximity to the sea, where in all the dense gardens flowers give honey in drops and which has good people who worship and praise the god to make the whole of the country shine with fame. The ascetics who are dressed like Siva think of god without ceasing as one who has on one ear a lady's ear-ring moving and a men's ear-ring made of spiraling conch on the other. Their sins will take leave of them of their own accord. (The past tense is used for certainty).

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:13:04 AM »
Verse  2:


மொண்ட லம்பிய வார்தி ரைக்கடல் மோதி மீதெறி சங்க வங்கமுங்
கண்டலம் புடைசூழ் வயல்சேர் கலிக்காழி
வண்ட லம்பிய கொன்றை யானடி வாழ்த்தி யேத்திய மாந்தர் தம்வினை
விண்ட லங்கெளிதாம் அதுநல் விதியாமே.

The clouds having drawn water, the sea of long waves which make a big sound.
makes the conches and ships which are dashed and thrown on the shore.
In Sirkazhi,  of great bustle, reach the fields which are surrounded on all sides by mangroves. The sins of people who praised and blessed the feet of the god wearing Koṉṟai flowers on which bees hum. Leaving them is easy; That is the golden rule.

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 1 - Tiru Jnana Sambandhar.
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:09:28 AM »
Sirkazhi:

Verse 1:

பண்ணி னேர்மொழி மங்கை மார்பலர் பாடி யாடிய வோசை நாடொறுங்
கண்ணி னேரயலே பொலியுங் கடற்காழிப்
பெண்ணி னேரொரு பங்கு டைப்பெரு மானை யெம்பெரு மானென் றென்றுன்னும்
அண்ண லாரடியார் அருளாலுங் குறைவிலரே.


The sound of the dance when many young girls whose words are as sweet as the melody and sing, daily. In Sirkazhi, girt by the sea where they abound before one's eyes, the holy slaves of the god, who think very often of the god who has a beautiful lady on his half as our God. They are not wanting not only in his grace but also in other worldly wealth which is necessary for enjoying the pleasures of this world.

Arunachala Siva.

2714
General topics / Siddha Siddhi - John Grimes:
« on: March 02, 2017, 10:59:30 AM »
The word 'siddha' means complete, perfect, accomplished from the root 'sidh' 'to attain'. There are two uses for this word.  One use refers to an accomplished one, a seer, a sage, a perfect being, a Jnani, a Mukta. The other use refers to a person who possesses one or more miraculous powers (siddhi).  Bhagavan Ramana used the word in both of these ways. Further, in this regard He said:

'There are two kinds of siddhis and one kind may well be a stumbling block to Self Realization. It is said that by Mantras, by some drug possessing occult virtues, by severe austerities, or by samadhi of a certain kind, powers can be acquired. But these powers are not a means to Self Knowledge..... the other kind are manifestations of power and knowledge which are quite natural to a person when the Self is realized.
They come of their own accord, they are God given.'  (Sad Darsana Bhashya, Kapali
Sastri).

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.,             

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contd.,

The perceiver of this Substance is done with obstructions
  Finding in all that accrues, the resident Joy
All their needs met; rejecting nothing
  Them, the earthlings praise as the Master Divine.
Wanting nothing they rule the world
  Rejoicing within in solitary companionship of the One
A flood, dear brother, the desired One ever at hand
  Surging from within, the spring of Immortality
The needed ruse to occasion this Eternal
  Bliss flood is indeed simple, very simple!
The act of attention; the phenomenon of thinking;
  The direction within; and Reality is patent.
It is sufficient if one were to reinforce with feeling;
  Praising the Divine omnipresence, gushing too from
  Here within.
It is enough to repeat 'Divine flood which has become all this
  Is bubbling forth from within me.' Feel thus
  That is enough!
No need for ochre robe, nor matted hair
  Feeling conviction is sufficient to attain to the
  Transcendent Reality.
No need for scriptures, no need for cannon
  No need for eulogy. Mind stilled in touch of feeling will do.
No place for tough tapas; none for practice of sadhana;
  The thought given room 'Siva is all that exists,' delivers!
Let the mouth utter, 'The One Sivam, transcendent                  ,
  Standing everywhere, as All, for all time, courses through
  Me here!' That is ample!
Faith for the form, 'The eternal Siva flood of Self
  Surges and flows through me.'
Mind thus permeated, this conviction alone will do!

concluded.

Arunachala Siva.   

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