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13096
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:45:56 AM »
Verse  3:


சிந்தை செய்வது சிவன்கழல் அல்லதொன் றில்லார்
அந்தி வண்ணர்தம் அடியவர்க் கமுதுசெய் வித்துக்
கந்தை கீளுடை கோவணங் கருத்தறிந் துதவி
வந்த செல்வத்தின் வளத்தினால் வரும்பயன் கொள் வார்.


He would think on nought but the feet of Siva;
He would feast the devotees of Siva whose hue
Is that of the incarnadine sky crepuscular;
Divining the wish of devotees he would
Give them gratis kantai, keell and kovanam.
Thus did he the fruit of his foison, gain.   

Arunachala Siva.


13097
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:44:19 AM »
Verse  2:


மன்னு மப்பதி வணிகர்தங் குலத்தினில் வந்தார்
பொன்னு முத்துநன் மணிகளும் பூந்துகில் முதலா
எந்நி லத்தினும் உள்ளன வருவளத் தியல்பால்
அந்நி லைக்கண்மிக் கவர்அமர் நீதியார் என்பார்.


He hailed from the merchant-clan of that city;
With gold, pearls and goodly gems, and varieties
Of silk-products pouring in from all the realms,
He was richly endowed and throve a merchant great;
Amar-Niti was he called.

Arunachala Siva.

13098
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:41:51 AM »
Amar Neethi Nayanar:


Verse  1:


சீரின் நீடிய செம்பியர் பொன்னிநன் னாட்டுக்
காரின் நீடிய களியளி மலர்ப்பொழில் சூழ்ந்து
தேரின் மேவிய செழுமணி வீதிகள் சிறந்து
பாரில் நீடிய பெருமைசேர் பதிபழை யாறை.


It is in the Kaveri delta of the Chozhas of great renown;
It is dight with flowery gardens which reach the clouds,
And are buzzed over by joyous bees; through its streets
Pass chariots; it is a famous and great city on earth;
It is Pazhayarai.   

Arunachala Siva.

13099
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:39:22 AM »
Verse  11:


வேறு பிறிதென் திருத்தொண்டத்
   தொகையால் உலகு விளங்கவரும்
பேறு தனக்குக் காரணராம்
   பிரானார் விறன்மிண் டரின்பெருமை
கூறும் அளவெம் அளவிற்றே
   அவர்தாள் சென்னி மேற்கொண்டே
ஆறை வணிகர் அமர்நீதி
   அன்பர் திருத்தொண் டறைகுவாம்.



Why expatiate further? The world is enlightened by
The Tiru-th-Tonda-th-Tokai and it is to Viran Mindar we owe it.
Is it given to me to hail him in full?
We wear on our crown his feet and proceed to
Narrate the service of the merchant Amar-Niti of Arai.

Arunachala Siva.

13100
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:37:27 AM »
Verse  10:


ஒக்க நெடுநாள் இவ்வுலகில்
   உயர்ந்த சைவப் பெருந்தன்மை
தொக்க நிலைமை நெறிபோற்றித்
   தொண்டு பெற்ற விறன்மிண்டர்
தக்க வகையால் தம்பெருமான்
   அருளி னாலே தாள்நிழற்கீழ்
மிக்க கணநா யகராகும்
   தன்மை பெற்று விளங்கினார்.


Viran Mindar who for many many days
Served on earth the cause of Saivism, sublime and lofty,
By the grace of our Lord, fittingly reached the shade
Of His feet and for ever thrives as a Gana-Natha.   


Arunachala Siva.

13101
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:34:37 AM »
Verse 9:


ஞால முய்ய நாமுய்ய
   நம்பி சைவ நன்னெறியின்
சீல முய்யத் திருத்தொண்டத்
   தொகைமுன் பாடச் செழுமறைகள்
ஓல மிடவும் உணர்வரியார்
   அடியா ருடனாம் உளதென்றால்
ஆலம் அமுது செய்தபிரான்
   அடியார் பெருமை அறிந்தார்ஆர்.



 For the world to thrive, for our own flourishing
And for the prospering of the goodly ways of Saivism
Aroorar composed and hymned
(before Devasiriyan) The Tiru-th-Tonda-th-Tokai; the Lord who was not to be
Comprehended by the Vedas rich in chhandas
Declared: "We abide where devotees are."
Who can hymn the glory of the Lord who devoured
Poison which into nectar He transformed?   


Arunachala Siva.

13102
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:31:54 AM »
Verse  8:



சேணார் மேருச் சிலைவளைத்த
   சிவனா ரடியார் திருக்கூட்டம்
பேணா தேகும் ஊரனுக்கும்
   பிரானாந் தன்மைப் பிறைசூடிப்
பூணா ரரவம் புனைந்தார்க்கும்
   புறகென் றுரைக்க மற்றவர்பாற்
கோணா வருளைப் பெற்றார்மற்
   றினியார் பெருமை கூறுவார்.


"Arooran who went straight without hailing
The holy devotees of Siva who bent
The sky-high Meru into a bow,
And also his ruling Lord who wears the crescent
On His crest and hakes as His jewels,
Are both taboo for us." Thus he declared.
Yet it is even from them he received grace pure.
Who can ever like unto him hail devotees thus?.   

Arunachala Siva.

13103
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: February 04, 2016, 07:06:21 AM »


Maya is Mother Uma. Siva is Father, the Self.  Both are to be worshipped.

Unless, one gets Uma's grace, Maya cannot be conquered. When Maya
gets conquered, Maya merges with Siva, as Ardhanari.  It is for the
concorporate form that Unnamulai did penance in Arunachala and got
merged with Siva.  Maya in Bhagavan's words is mind-stuff.  If
Maya is overcome, then she becomes Maha Maya, Uma with Siva.
Then, she guides the devotee to Siva, the self realization.  Saint
Manikkavachagar sings:  I am praying to You, whose one half is the lady,
my mother.

Arunachala Siva.

13104
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: February 04, 2016, 07:04:20 AM »


I visited Gurumurtham once.  It is inside the town.  The shrine is not well taken care of.
There is a Sivalingam inside.  We have to take the keys from the nearby house, who are
the custodians and open the doors and go inside.  People who visit there, sometimes give
some money and the custodians buy oil and light lamps, some flowers.  Whereas the Isanya
Desikar Math, at the fag end of Girivalam route, is well maintained by Kovilur Math.

Arunachala Siva. 

13105
The second problem by which the mystic self absorption is beset  - its failure to stabilize its own exceptional
but fugitive insight,  its inability to provide an ever active awareness of reality -- is also solved only by
philosophy.  To understand this, we must first understand that out of the repulsion and compulsion of a
strongly held world view, the meditator of necessity deliberately turns his back on his external environment,
forsakes and spurns his earthly existence during the inward progression towards his spiritual self.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.   

13106
General Discussion / Re: Mithya:
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:24:09 AM »
To solve this baffling conundram, Vedanta employs the 'pot-clay' example which illumines this line
of reasoning, not apparent in the 'rope-snake' analogy.  When a pot is made out of clay, what is newly
added to clay?  Only a form (with a corresponding name) has been added to lend utility in everyday life.
It is not entirely false like the 'snake' imagined in the rope.  It does hold water and clearly is not an
illusory pot.   However, in Vedantic 'grammar', a pot is not a noun but only an adjective to the object,
which is clay because a pot is an object existing by itself, which is clay because a pot is not an object
existing by itself, but needs the substantive clay to exist.  It is the pot which qualifies the clay, not the
other way round.  We should strictly speaking, refer to all clay products as 'pot-ty-clay', 'cup-by-clay',
rather than clay pot, clay cup, etc.,  Vedanta reverses our very linguistic orientation  while appreciating
mithya.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.       

13107
General topics / Re: The Guiding Presence:
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:11:51 AM »
A question asked by many who come for the first time is whether there is someone they can go to
for spiritual instruction.  The answer they generally receive is that they should go and sit in the Old
Hall and, when necessary, visit the old devotees of Ramana who are still alive. Unfortunately at that time,
many  of those senior devotees are leaving this world and we cannot gain the direct benefit of their memories
and wisdom.

It may seem a bleak and unsatisfactory prospect to be left only with a grave, a temple and a small room
as catalysts for spiritual insight and solace. Buildings by themselves cannot answer our doubts nor
provide succor to us in our moments of distress.  But here appearance belies the reality.  For it is very
evident to those who have preserved that there is a guiding presence in the Asramam that is alive and
responsive to our needs.  A subtle power prevails that heals our hearts and restores our equanimity.

What is this mysterious, potent guiding force which transforms our lives?  It is not perceived unless
we are open, receptive and aware.  We all know from intimate experience what it is.  It has been
described in historical times as 'the power which surpasses all understanding'. It is the breath of God
or as Ramana would say 'automatic divine action.'  For those who have been and continue to be the
recipients of this manna, they understand  and words are unnecessary. But for those who are new,
words may perhaps just confuse the subject until such time as they open up and surrender to the
Presence.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.   
           

13108
General topics / Re: Guru Ramana Prasadam - (II)
« on: February 03, 2016, 10:52:09 AM »
Verse 211:

The grace bestowing feet of my Lord assumed so absolutely the right of possession over me that
there remained nothing that I had to read, or put into practice after reading and understanding.
It is those feet that remain in the hearts of those who have fully understood (and rooted out the
way of 'neti', It is not this.

Verse 212:

The holy feet of the guru shines in my heart as the knowledge bestowed in grace by the Self, which
embraces me in the form of final liberation.  Taking those feet as my siddhi (supernatural power),
I have attained strength and clarify of mind, so that the false desires which held me in the illusion
of worldly bondage have vanished like a dream.

Verse 213:

Drawn by His magnetic charm I have sought shelter at the lotus feet of Sri Ramana whose teaching is
eternal, so that the murky twilight of the illusory world, created by the trickery of the senses, has
faded in the clear light of dawn like turmeric left out in the sun.  (Turmeric loses its color when
exposed to sunlight).

Verse 214:

Whether the fate decrees that I should suffer through seven births or seven thousand, whatever
worlds I may inhabit, His gracious feet, the light of life within my heart, will be united with my
soul, enfolding me so that for my fortunate self all those appearances will be as a dream.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.             

13109
General topics / Re: A Sense of Peace -- K.C. Mohan:
« on: February 03, 2016, 10:32:37 AM »
The philosophy of Sri Ramana Maharshi and my parent's teachings influenced my code of values.
As Chairman and Managing Director of MECON (Metallurgical and Engineering Consultants of India Ltd.,)
from 1972 to 1980, I was involved in some of the largest steel projects in the country. By reading and
understanding Bhagavan's teachings I realized there is more to life than accumulation of power and wealth.
Truth and service to the people are the most important factors one must take into consideration in life.

Now I am leading a retired life in Chennai, but part of my time is spent for social and charitable causes
as The Banyan in Chennai, a home for mentally disturbed women, the Cheshire Homes and Eye Care
institutions in Kerala.  Let us keep the adage in mind: "if God has been kind to us, we should be kind
to others.'

concluded.

Arunachala Siva.     

13110
General topics / Re: And Another Thing...
« on: February 03, 2016, 10:24:06 AM »
His brother, Chinnaswami whom we knew as the Sarvadhikari was so aware of this and in awe
of Bhagavan that he rarely got up the courage to speak to Him personally.  He would send someone
else in with the message.  We all knew about this little quirk of his but no one actually mentioned it
that I had heard of.  Sarvadhikari had a quick temper with a low flash point, but he loved children and
was always very kind to us. We ran free all over the Asramam and I only now appreciate how tolerant
of us they all were.  Bhagavan still kept an eye on the kitchen however. When my mother wanted the
recipe for idly batter a cook wrote it out and showed it to Bhagavan to check...  naturally, as I said
before, everyone showed Him everything.  He read through it carefully and said, 'You have forgotten
the salt.'  I still like that idly batter when they make it. Another time when a roof was being stripped
before being re-covered in grass, a workman found a metal object in the old thatch and..you have guessed
it,... he showed it to Bhagavan and asked what it was. Bhagavan examined it thoroughly and told them
it was something people used to help get their shoes on... a shoehorn and it should be given to Osborne
who would have use for it. What a shoehorn was doing in old roofing thatch is anyone's guess, but I
inherited that shoehorn from my father and it is one of my most treasured possessions.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.           

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