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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: February 04, 2016, 07:06:21 AM »

Maya is Mother Uma. Siva is Father, the Self.  Both are to be worshipped.

Unless, one gets Uma's grace, Maya cannot be conquered. When Maya
gets conquered, Maya merges with Siva, as Ardhanari.  It is for the
concorporate form that Unnamulai did penance in Arunachala and got
merged with Siva.  Maya in Bhagavan's words is mind-stuff.  If
Maya is overcome, then she becomes Maha Maya, Uma with Siva.
Then, she guides the devotee to Siva, the self realization.  Saint
Manikkavachagar sings:  I am praying to You, whose one half is the lady,
my mother.

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: February 04, 2016, 07:04:20 AM »

I visited Gurumurtham once.  It is inside the town.  The shrine is not well taken care of.
There is a Sivalingam inside.  We have to take the keys from the nearby house, who are
the custodians and open the doors and go inside.  People who visit there, sometimes give
some money and the custodians buy oil and light lamps, some flowers.  Whereas the Isanya
Desikar Math, at the fag end of Girivalam route, is well maintained by Kovilur Math.

Arunachala Siva. 

The second problem by which the mystic self absorption is beset  - its failure to stabilize its own exceptional
but fugitive insight,  its inability to provide an ever active awareness of reality -- is also solved only by
philosophy.  To understand this, we must first understand that out of the repulsion and compulsion of a
strongly held world view, the meditator of necessity deliberately turns his back on his external environment,
forsakes and spurns his earthly existence during the inward progression towards his spiritual self.


Arunachala Siva.   

General Discussion / Re: Mithya:
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:24:09 AM »
To solve this baffling conundram, Vedanta employs the 'pot-clay' example which illumines this line
of reasoning, not apparent in the 'rope-snake' analogy.  When a pot is made out of clay, what is newly
added to clay?  Only a form (with a corresponding name) has been added to lend utility in everyday life.
It is not entirely false like the 'snake' imagined in the rope.  It does hold water and clearly is not an
illusory pot.   However, in Vedantic 'grammar', a pot is not a noun but only an adjective to the object,
which is clay because a pot is an object existing by itself, which is clay because a pot is not an object
existing by itself, but needs the substantive clay to exist.  It is the pot which qualifies the clay, not the
other way round.  We should strictly speaking, refer to all clay products as 'pot-ty-clay', 'cup-by-clay',
rather than clay pot, clay cup, etc.,  Vedanta reverses our very linguistic orientation  while appreciating


Arunachala Siva.       

General topics / Re: The Guiding Presence:
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:11:51 AM »
A question asked by many who come for the first time is whether there is someone they can go to
for spiritual instruction.  The answer they generally receive is that they should go and sit in the Old
Hall and, when necessary, visit the old devotees of Ramana who are still alive. Unfortunately at that time,
many  of those senior devotees are leaving this world and we cannot gain the direct benefit of their memories
and wisdom.

It may seem a bleak and unsatisfactory prospect to be left only with a grave, a temple and a small room
as catalysts for spiritual insight and solace. Buildings by themselves cannot answer our doubts nor
provide succor to us in our moments of distress.  But here appearance belies the reality.  For it is very
evident to those who have preserved that there is a guiding presence in the Asramam that is alive and
responsive to our needs.  A subtle power prevails that heals our hearts and restores our equanimity.

What is this mysterious, potent guiding force which transforms our lives?  It is not perceived unless
we are open, receptive and aware.  We all know from intimate experience what it is.  It has been
described in historical times as 'the power which surpasses all understanding'. It is the breath of God
or as Ramana would say 'automatic divine action.'  For those who have been and continue to be the
recipients of this manna, they understand  and words are unnecessary. But for those who are new,
words may perhaps just confuse the subject until such time as they open up and surrender to the


Arunachala Siva.   

General topics / Re: Guru Ramana Prasadam - (II)
« on: February 03, 2016, 10:52:09 AM »
Verse 211:

The grace bestowing feet of my Lord assumed so absolutely the right of possession over me that
there remained nothing that I had to read, or put into practice after reading and understanding.
It is those feet that remain in the hearts of those who have fully understood (and rooted out the
way of 'neti', It is not this.

Verse 212:

The holy feet of the guru shines in my heart as the knowledge bestowed in grace by the Self, which
embraces me in the form of final liberation.  Taking those feet as my siddhi (supernatural power),
I have attained strength and clarify of mind, so that the false desires which held me in the illusion
of worldly bondage have vanished like a dream.

Verse 213:

Drawn by His magnetic charm I have sought shelter at the lotus feet of Sri Ramana whose teaching is
eternal, so that the murky twilight of the illusory world, created by the trickery of the senses, has
faded in the clear light of dawn like turmeric left out in the sun.  (Turmeric loses its color when
exposed to sunlight).

Verse 214:

Whether the fate decrees that I should suffer through seven births or seven thousand, whatever
worlds I may inhabit, His gracious feet, the light of life within my heart, will be united with my
soul, enfolding me so that for my fortunate self all those appearances will be as a dream.


Arunachala Siva.             

General topics / Re: A Sense of Peace -- K.C. Mohan:
« on: February 03, 2016, 10:32:37 AM »
The philosophy of Sri Ramana Maharshi and my parent's teachings influenced my code of values.
As Chairman and Managing Director of MECON (Metallurgical and Engineering Consultants of India Ltd.,)
from 1972 to 1980, I was involved in some of the largest steel projects in the country. By reading and
understanding Bhagavan's teachings I realized there is more to life than accumulation of power and wealth.
Truth and service to the people are the most important factors one must take into consideration in life.

Now I am leading a retired life in Chennai, but part of my time is spent for social and charitable causes
as The Banyan in Chennai, a home for mentally disturbed women, the Cheshire Homes and Eye Care
institutions in Kerala.  Let us keep the adage in mind: "if God has been kind to us, we should be kind
to others.'


Arunachala Siva.     

General topics / Re: And Another Thing...
« on: February 03, 2016, 10:24:06 AM »
His brother, Chinnaswami whom we knew as the Sarvadhikari was so aware of this and in awe
of Bhagavan that he rarely got up the courage to speak to Him personally.  He would send someone
else in with the message.  We all knew about this little quirk of his but no one actually mentioned it
that I had heard of.  Sarvadhikari had a quick temper with a low flash point, but he loved children and
was always very kind to us. We ran free all over the Asramam and I only now appreciate how tolerant
of us they all were.  Bhagavan still kept an eye on the kitchen however. When my mother wanted the
recipe for idly batter a cook wrote it out and showed it to Bhagavan to check...  naturally, as I said
before, everyone showed Him everything.  He read through it carefully and said, 'You have forgotten
the salt.'  I still like that idly batter when they make it. Another time when a roof was being stripped
before being re-covered in grass, a workman found a metal object in the old thatch have guessed
it,... he showed it to Bhagavan and asked what it was. Bhagavan examined it thoroughly and told them
it was something people used to help get their shoes on... a shoehorn and it should be given to Osborne
who would have use for it. What a shoehorn was doing in old roofing thatch is anyone's guess, but I
inherited that shoehorn from my father and it is one of my most treasured possessions.


Arunachala Siva.           

The Knowledge Sheath:


Then, the fourth sheath is the buddhi and the organs of feeling, with their actions, and the idea of
'I am the doer and the seer.'  This is the 'sheath of intellect'  (Vijnanamaya Kosa); and it is the cause
of the world for the Purusha (embodied being).


This intellect is the reflection of Consciousness, but it is the transformation of Prakrti; so it cannot
be the Atman. It works as 'I'.  it feels 'I do see, and hear.'  These are all the works of the intellect;
it feels in the body and in the senses.


Beginningless, from time immemorial it has been doing all the works in the world.  Following the
desires in the past, it engages itself in works -- good and bad -- and enjoys their results.


It takes different kinds of bodies in different planets. And the three states which you see  --
jagrat. svapna, and sushupti -- all belong to this sheath of intellect, as also pleasure and pain.


The reflection of the Atman is here more than anywhere else, because it is very near to the Atman.
And it is the upadhi (superimposed adjunct) of the Atman.  In this sheath, the Atman manifests
itself as the doer, though it is the anvil that gives shape to all, but takes no shape - being all the time


Arunachala Siva.       

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:31:50 AM »
Verse 7:

திருவார் பெருமை திகழ்கின்ற
   தேவா சிரிய னிடைப்பொலிந்து
மருவா நின்ற சிவனடியார்
   தம்மைத் தொழுது வந்தணையா
தொருவா றொதுங்கும் வன்றொண்டன்
   புறகென் றுரைப்பச் சிவனருளாற்
பெருகா நின்ற பெரும்பேறு
   பெற்றார் மற்றும் பெறநின்றார்.

He declared Van-tondar to be anathema
As he coursed into the temple without first
Hailing the holy devotees of Siva who lustrously thronged
In the Devasiriyan, rich in grace divine,
It was thus he was by Siva blessed;
Eke was he to be blessed by Him still further.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:29:41 AM »
Verse 6:

பொன்தாழ் அருவி மலைநாடு
   கடந்து கடல்சூழ் புவியெங்கும்
சென்றா ளுடையார் அடியவர்தம்
   திண்மை ஒழுக்க நடைசெலுத்தி
வன்தாள் மேருச் சிலைவளைத்துப்
   புரங்கள் செற்ற வைதிகத்தேர்
நின்றா ரிருந்த திருவாரூர்
   பணிந்தார் நிகரொன் றில்லாதார்.

He passed Malai Nadu of golden cascades
And went through orbis terrarum, pursuing   
And strengthening the path of devotion firm;
He, the peerless one eventually arrived at Tiruvarur
Where the Lord who bent the firm-based Mt.Meru into a bow
And smote the triple cities, is enthroned on the Car
Whose steeds are the four Vedas, and hailed Him.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:26:46 AM »
Verse 5:

நதியும் மதியும் புனைந்தசடை
   நம்பர் விரும்பி நலஞ்சிறந்த
பதிக ளெங்குங் கும்பிட்டுப்
   படருங் காதல் வழிச்செல்வார்
முதிரும் அன்பிற் பெருந்தொண்டர்
   முறைமை நீடு திருக்கூட்டத்
தெதிர்முன் பரவும் அருள்பெற்றே
   இறைவர் பாதந் தொழப்பெற்றார்.

Impelled by a spiraling love to adore the shrines
Where the Lord who sports on His matted hair
The crescent and the Ganga, willingly abides,
He took to pilgrimage; he would, wherever he went,
First hail the holy company ripe in devotion rich
And then only the Lord Himself; this was
The beatitude which he was blessed with.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:24:11 AM »
Verse 4:

அப்பொற் பதியி னிடைவேளாண்
   குலத்தை விளக்க அவதரித்தார்
செப்பற் கரிய பெருஞ்சீர்த்திச்
   சிவனார் செய்ய கழல்பற்றி
எப்பற் றினையும் அறஎறிவார்
   எல்லை தெரிய ஒண்ணாதார்
மெய்ப்பத் தர்கள்பாற் பரிவுடையார்
   எம்பி ரானார் விறன்மிண்டர்.

From this city, to illumine the clan of Velalas
Hailed he, who clung to the ineffably glorious feet
Of Lord Siva, and scorned away all other desires;
He, our deity Viran Mindar was devoted to
The true servitors, whose greatness is limitless.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:22:05 AM »
Verse  3:

என்னும் பெயரின் விளங்கியுல
   கேறும் பெருமை யுடையதுதான்
அன்னம் பயிலும் வயலுழவின்
   அமைந்த வளத்தா லாய்ந்தமறை
சொன்ன நெறியின் வழியொழுகும்
   தூய குடிமைத் தலைநின்றார்
மன்னுங் குலத்தின் மாமறைநூல்
   மரபிற் பெரியோர் வாழ்பதியாம்.

The glory of this city pervades the whole world;
With the wealth yielded by fields where teem swans,
The Brahmins thrived thither poised in the way of the Vedas,
Pure and unsullied as leaders; this city indeed is
The dwelling place of such great families.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:18:56 AM »
Verse 2:

வாரி சொரியுங் கதிர்முத்தும்
   வயல்மென் கரும்பிற் படுமுத்தும்
வேரல் விளையுங் குளிர்முத்தும்
    வேழ மருப்பின் ஒளிர்முத்தும்
மூரல் எனச்சொல் வெண்முத்த
   நகையார் தெரிந்து முறைகோக்குஞ்
சேரர் திருநாட் டூர்களின்முன்
   சிறந்த மூதூர் செங்குன்றூர்.

Bright pearls of sea, pearls from sugar-canes
That grow in the fields, cool pearls of bamboos,
And lustrous pearls that fall from the tusks of tuskers:
These were cunningly threaded into garlands
By damsels whose white teeth were rows of pearls.
With these thrived Sengkunroor, the first
Among the divine cities of Malai Nadu (Kerala)

Arunachala Siva.

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