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General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:26:26 PM »
The answer continues..

In this way, according to many Vedic passages, the subtle body is made of sixteen categories.
Antahkarana is treated as single body according to this theory.  Some other Srutis which hold
that these categories forming the subtle body are seventeen in number, consider Antahkarana
as consisting only of two aspects -- Manas and Buddhi, all others being included in these two.
There are still other Srutis which hold that the subtle body consists of nineteen aspects. According
to them, Manas, Buddhi, Chtta, and Ahankara are all to be counted separately.

The subtle body is identified this say.

Arunachala Siva.     

General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:16:03 PM »
The answer continues...

We shall now consider Antahkarana or the inner organ:  Antahkarana is the composed of four
aspects:  Manas, Buddhi, Chitta, and Ahankara.

Manas:  Manas has got as its presiding deity Moon. Its seat is neck.  It works consists in creating
doubts through Sankalpa (pros) and Vikalpa (cons or opposite).

Buddhi:  Its presiding deity is Brahman.  Its seat is the face. Its function is to produce firm

Ahankara:  Its presiding deity is Rudra, and the seat, the heart.  Its function consists in generating
the sense of 'I' and 'mine', with regard to objects.

Chitta:  Its presiding deity is Vishnu who is Kshetrajna (Field Knower).  Its seat is the navel.
It generates faith..


Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:06:57 PM »
The answer continues...

There are also five subsidiary Pranas which are included in the five main Pranas, described above.
These five subsidiary Pranas, are:  Naga, Kuma, Krkara, Devadatta, and Dhananjaya. Of these,
Naga functions as the power of vomitting,  Kurma as the power of closing and opening the eyes
and as the power to open and close the lips,  Krkara as the power that causes hunger, Devadatta
as the power of yawning, and Dhananjaya as the power that fattens the body.


Arunachala Siva.       

General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:00:46 PM »
The answer continues...

4. Payu or excretery organ like the anus.  The presiding deity of this organ is Mrtyu or Lord of death.
Prompted by this deity, the anus excretes faeces. But if you apply the test, you will find that even though
anus is present in sleep, it does not function. So anus is not the organ Payu.

5. Upastha or power of sexual enjoyment:  The presiding deity of it is Prajapati. Prompted by this deity,
the sexual organ functions. But even though the sexual organs of man and woman are present in sleep,
they do not function then.  So Upastha is not the real organ that goes by that name. Now shall take up
the subject of the five Pranas.

1.  Prana:  Its presiding deity is Visishta.  Presiding in the heart and prompted by it, the vital power
pushes the breath out.

2. Apana: Its presiding deity is Visvarasrashta.  Prmpted by this deity and residing in the anus,
it draws the breath in.

3. Vyana:  The presiding deity of it is Visvayoni.  Prompted by this deity, and residing inside and outside
the body, it gives strength to the body and its organs.

4.  Udana:  Its presiding deity is Aja, residing in the throat.  Prompted by this deity, it performs the
following functions: a) In deep  sleep it dissolves the sense organs in the causal state;  b) On waking
it restores the powers of organs to their respective centers and c)  At the time of death, it carries the
powers of all the organs to the realm beyond death.

5. Samana:  Its presiding deity is Jaya.  Its place of residence is about the navel.  prompted by this
presiding deity, Samana digests all the types of food that enter into the stomach.  It is the fire of
digestion that maintains and increases the strength of the body.


Arunachala Siva.         

General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 11:41:17 AM »
The answer continues....

1. Vak or power of speech: The presiding deity of it is Agni.  Prompted by this deity, this power enables
us to speak with the help of teeth, lips, throat, etc.,  All these accessories are present even when
one sleeps.  But if we apply test,  we find one cannot speak in sleep. So these are not the organs
of speech.

2. Bahu or hand:  Indira is the presiding deity.  Prompted  by the deity, the hands are able to give,
take etc.,  But  when you apply test, you find that even though the hands are present in a sleeping
person, he cannot give or take with the hands. So you cannot say that the hand is the organ of that
does these works.

3. Pada  or leg: Its presiding deity is Upandera.  Prompted by this deity, the legs are able to walk,
run etc., But when you apply the test, you find that even though legs are present, a sleeping man
is not able to walk or run.  So you cannot say that the leg is the real organ of walking, etc.,


Arunachala Siva. 

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:14:24 AM »

ஊர்மதில் மூன்றட்ட வுத்தமற்
    கென் றோருயர்தவத்தோன்
தார்மலர் கொய்யா வருபவன்
    தண்டின் மலர்பறித்த
ஊர்மலை மேற்கொள்ளும் பாக
    ருடல்துணி யாக்குமவன்
ஏர்மலி மாமதில் சூழ்கரு
    வூரில் எறிபத்தனே. (10)

ERipatha Nayanaar

In the Triple ported Karuvoor, at Aaninalai
Is enshrined the sublime. To adore Him,
Downing flower  sprays with a stick, a servitor
Of routine service, to temple was heading;
A hill  like tusker threw him and flower basket. Pat
ERipathar cut the tusker and the merchant in two.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:12:08 AM »

தொழுதும் வணங்கியும் மாலயன்
    தேடருஞ் சோதிசென்றாங்
கெழுதுந் தமிழ்ப்பழ வாவணங்
    காட்டி யெனக்குன்குடி
முழுதும் அடிமைவந் தாட்செ
    யெனப்பெற்ற வன்முரல்தேன்
ஒழுகும் மலரின்நற் றாரெம்பி
    ரான்நம்பி யாரூரனே. (9)

Sundaramurthy Naayanaar

Lord shed as a column of flame, showed
A document in Tamizh writ reading
That you and your lineage must serve
Us being slaves ever and in fealty
Remain and stood there  upon in Aaroor*
Wearing honey  spilling garland great.


Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:09:48 AM »

மிண்டும் பொழில்பழை யாறை
    அமர்நீதி வெண்பொடியின்
முண்டந் தரித்த பிராற்குநல்
    லூரின்முன் கோவணம்நேர்
கொண்டிங் கருளென்று தன்பெருஞ்
    செல்வமுந் தன்னையுந்தன்
துண்ட மதிநுத லாளையும்
    ஈந்த தொழிலினனே. (8)

Amarneethi Naayanaar

In Pazhaiyaarai rich Amarniti of mercantile clan
Had been offering Kovanam to servitors Saivite
Wearing the Triple Ash  stripe on their forehead.
Lord to try and prove him gave His to be retained and given back on asking,
The which He could not as it was lost. He and his
Family and all wealth on one pan,
Did not even the scales; but were spirited
Away to Lord's abode as willed in grace.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:07:23 AM »

பேசும் பெருமையவ் வாரூ
    ரனையும் பிரானவனாம்
ஈசன் தனையும் புறகுதட்
    டென்றவ னீசனுக்கே
நேச னெனக்கும் பிரான்மனைக்
    கேபுக நீடுதென்றல்
வீசும் பொழில்திருச் செங்குன்றம்
    மேய விறன்மிண்டேனே. (7)

Viranmindar Nayanar:

ViRanmindar of Senkunrur, of ploughmen  clan
A Saivite true sat in Devasiriyan,
With servitors. Sundarar then, bowing not unto
Them, yet poised in thought of them went in
To darshan the ant- hill  abider; brooking it not,
Minder maintained that Lord and Sundarar alike are aliens.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:04:58 AM »

கற்றநன் மெய்த்தவன் போலொரு
    பொய்த்தவன் காய்சினத்தால்
செற்றவன் தன்னை யவனைச்
    செறப்புக லுந்திருவாய்
மற்றவன் தத்தாநமரே
    யெனச் சொல்லி வானுலகம்
பெற்றவன் சேதிபன் மெயப்பொரு
    ளாமென்று பேசுவரே. (6)   

Meypporul Naayanaar

King of Sethi Realm, a Saivaite sure, took
The guised vile Vedic Muthanathan for
A true servitor; he in envious rage and robes
Pseudo, in sneaky way, planned to slay him.
King?s guard Tattan noticing it, crossed him
With a word; but king pinked by sword, bade him stay and show him safely to city?s gates.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:02:36 AM »

இயலா விடைச் சென்ற மாதவற்
    கின்னமு தாவிதைத்த
வயலார் முளைவித்து வாரி
    மனையலக் கால்வறுத்துச்
செயலார் பயிர்விழுத் தீங்கறி
    யாக்குமவன் செழுநீர்க்
கயலார் இளையான் குடியுடை
    மாறனெங் கற்பகமே. (5)   

Ilayankudi MaRan

MaRan of Ilayankudi plough-clan, in lean days,
On a rainy night gathered the sown seeds,
Washed, them, made five with the rafter sticks
On roof, with his spouses? help and cooked
A meal delicious, served it to the servitor sage
Whereupon lord con corporate with Uma took him.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:00:12 AM »

செய்தவர் வேண்டிய தியாதுங்
    கொடுப்பச் சிவன் தவனாய்க்
கைதவம் பேசிநின் காதலி
    யைத்தரு கென்றலுமே
மைதிகழ் கண்ணியை யீந்தவன்
    வாய்ந்த பெரும்புகழ்வந்
தெய்திய காவிரிப் பூம்பட்டி
    னத்துள் இயற்பகையே. (4)

Iyarpakai Naayanaar

Iyarpakai of Kavirippoompattinam gained great fame,
Gave even his fair spouse with collyrium touched eyes,
To Lord Siva who came in guise and in deceitful
Diction demanded: Give unto me your loving wife;
As he was given to giving when askers asked
And was known for his munificence more generous than nature.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 09:57:04 AM »

சொல்லச் சிவன்திரு வாணைதன்
    தூமொழி தோள்நசையை
ஒல்லைத் துறந்துரு மூத்தர்
    பின்னுமை கோனருளால்
வில்லை புரைநுத லாளோ
    டிளமைபெற் றின்பமிக்கான்
தில்லைத் திருநீல கண்டக்
    குயவனாம் செய்தவனே. (3)

Tiruneelakanta Nayanaar

The spouse of the potter Tiruneelakantar whose speech
Is pure on Siva's will holy, sensing her husband
Has turned simple in approach in conjugal life,
With deviance; Touch me not, I swear by the Holy
Blue Necked Lord, said she. Then on, the renounced
The Desire for woman, and turned senescent. Yet by Lord's grace regained the youth, He & She.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 08:35:19 AM »

செப்பத் தகுபுகழ்த் தில்லைப்
    பதியிற் செழுமறையோர்
ஒப்பப் புவனங்கள் மூன்றினும்
    உம்பரின் ஊர்எரித்த
அப்பர்க் கமுதத் திருநடர்க்
    கந்திப் பிறையணிந்த
துப்பர் குரிமைத் தொழில்புரி
    வோர்தமைச் சொல்லுதுமே. (2)

Tillaivaazh Andhanar*

In the especial Thillai urb mentioned, live Andhanars*
Competent to chant the potent Vedas hid. Likewise
Are the chosen three Thousand Tillaiyers, serving in rightful
Fealty to the Lord Siva of coral red hue and crescent
Adorned, adance, and known as the burner of the triple
Citadels swanning about. That Three Thousand we bow into.

(*the 3000 brahmins who lived and did pujas for Chidambaram Nataraja)

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 08:30:42 AM »
Nambi Andaar Nambi - Tiruth Thondar Tiru Andati:*

பொன்னி வடகரை சேர்நாரை
    யூரிற் புழைக்கைமுக
மன்னன் அறுபத்து மூவர்
    பதிதேம் மரபுசெயல்
பன்னஅத் தொண்டத் தொகைவகை
    பல்குமந் தாதிதனைச்
சொன்ன மறைக்குல நம்பிபொற்
    பாதத் துணைதுணையே. (1)


Pollaappillayaar with His holed proboscis
Gracing entempled in Tiru Naaraiyoor on the North,
Of Kaveri cite the three and sixty Naayanmaars?
Land and country, clan and craft; and the classified
Holy servitor ship is indited by the Vedic Nampi
In anaphoretic strain. His auric feet escort us.

(* This is the source poems for Sekkizhar's Periya Puranam)

I propose to give all the verses and the English rendering.
Arunachala Siva.

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