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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: September 27, 2015, 09:11:01 AM »
The following verses and the Padigam has also composed and sung been by Tiru Navukkarasar,
as a General Padigam.


இருநிலனாய்த் தீயாகி நீரு மாகி
    இயமான னாயெறியுங் காற்று மாகி
அருநிலைய திங்களாய் ஞாயி றாகி
    ஆகாச மாயட்ட மூர்த்தி யாகிப்
பெருநலமுங் குற்றமும் பெண்ணும் ஆணும்
    பிறருருவுந் தம்முருவுந் தாமே யாகி
நெருநலையாய் இன்றாகி நாளை யாகி
    நிமிர்புன் சடையடிகள் நின்ற வாறே.(1)

The Thaandakam of Siva`s standing Abidance As vast earth and as fire and water,
as life and blowing wind, as deathless moon and sun, as ether,
and Ashtamoorti, as great weal and blemish, as man and woman,
as Himself in other forms and in His own form, as yesterday,
to-day and tomorrow.  The great God of ruddy matted crown abides for ever.

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 26, 2015, 07:32:52 PM »

In Mundaka Upanishad, Sounaka asked Angirasa:

Teach me That which is the root of eveything!

Angirsa said: That which is the root of everything is That.

To know this and to merge in this is Para-vidya.  All else is
apara-vidya.  In fact, Sankara says that apara vidya is avidya.
They are knowledge but they are all not Knowledge.

Bhagavan Ramana says in Verse 27:  The true Knowledge is that which is not knowledge and ignorance. There is nothing to know excepting That.

This Para-vidya or knowledge and realization of Brahman is not only the root but also the one which
swallows everything. Bhagavan Ramana uses the Tamizh word, 'Vizhungum', that which
swallows in Verse 1 of Sri Arunachala Pancharatnam.

This is about the same thing that Brugu asked Varuna in Taittriya Upanishad.

Brugu asks:  What is That which swallows everything?

Varuna answers:  It is That.  It is Brahman which swallows everything.

Bhagavan Ramana sings in Verse 28 of Sri Arunachala Akshara-manamalai:

To feed on you I came.  Oh! Arunachala, but I have become Your food and am  at Peace.

The devotee is consumed as food by God.  To abide in God is to be consumed by Him.
(Tr. K.Swaminathan)

This feature of Godhead or Arunachala consuming the seeker, is the fruit of total surrender, self inquiry.

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 26, 2015, 07:29:37 PM »

We daily experience that the five thieves called our five senses, rent our mind and take away our peace.
But over practice, one can keep the five thieves at bay.  Once we understand that Arunachala is
within mind, the five thieves cannot rob our peace. This we should practise at least at the time of puja, meditation, etc.,

Bhagavan Ramana gives this idea in the verses 11 and 12 of Sri Arunachala Akshara Manamalai:

Verse 11:  When these five robbers, the five senses, enter my mind, are You not present there at
home to keep them out, Oh! Arunachala!

Verse 12:  You are the one without a second, the sole, real being, Oh! Arunachala!  Who can hide you
or hide from you and come in here? If strangers come in, it is with your knowledge.
All this is but your connivance.
                                              - Tr. K. Swaminathan.

Once Ekanatha was doing Sri Dattatreya Puja at home.  He was constantly engaged without his
five senses jumping out in the Puja.  He heard only the mantra that he is reciting and the form
that he is doing Puja with.  It took about 2 hours.  In these two hours, one neighbor was shouting at
the gate of his house. Noise, lot of noise.  All angry words and abuses.  Ekanatha did not hear them.
 He heard them only as sound of sound of his mantra japa.  He came out and gave a cup of milk to the neighbor.  The neighbor was astonished.  Ekanatha told him:

All this time you raised the sound of Brahman, sabdha-brahman. This cup of milk is only to show
my thanks to you!

Arunachala Siva.   

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 26, 2015, 05:01:26 PM »

Of the five elements of the world, the lowest is Earth.  Water which is mightier than Earth, consumes
the Earth in great deluge. The Agni, Fire, is more powerful than Water.  The Fire consumes the water
and dries it up.  Vayu, the Air, is mightier than Fire. Vayu, the Air can put out the fire.  The Space is
the more powerful than Air.  While Air does not engage itself beyond some distance, but the Space is everywhere, even beyond the realms of Air.

Now, where is this Space?  The Space is within our mind.  There is no Space when the mind is not
there.  Mind or Ahamkara, ego is the mightiest.  But this ego-sense is also within Atma, Aham.
Ahamkara or aham-vritti gives birth to Aham-vritti and the Aham Vritti also quells in Aham, Atma, Arunachala.

Between Aham-vritti and Aham, there is Aham Sphurti.  This Aham Sphurti is the dance of I,I,I, pure
mind.  This is the dance of Nataraja, Siva in Chidambaram.  Bhagavan Ramana says this Sri Arunachala Pancharatnam, verse 2. "Nan...enru nadithiduvaiyal thaan unper thaan Idaym enriduvar thaam."

"Ever as "I" in the Heart.  You dance Hence are You called the Heart!"

This Chidakasa-tiru natanam, the dance of Siva in the inner space, gives rise to the non-moving Self. 

Aham-sphurti becomes Aham, Arunachala.

This is explained Bhagavan Ramana in Verse 3 of Sri Arunachala Pancharatnam:

Ahamukama antha amala-mathi thannaal....

He whose pure mind turned inward searches Whence this "I" arises knows the Self aright and merges in
You, Aruna Hill, as a river in the ocean.
              (Tr. K. Swaminathan)

Bhagavan Ramana describes this in two verses of Sri Arunachala Akshramanamalai also.

Verse 32: Stop deceiving me, testing and proving me, Oh! Arunachala! And henceforward reveal to me instead, your form of Light!                       

 (Tr. K.Swaminathan)

Note here that Bhagavan Ramana mentions the word Jyoti or Light.  This Aham-sphurti, the dance of Chidambaram.

Verse 43:  Reveal naturally by yourself, Oh! Arunachala! That each one is himself the real Self!


Verse 43: You are the sole Reality, Oh! Arunachala, Reveal  Yourself, as such.

Verse 43:  Reality is nothing but the Self  -  This is all You reveal, is it not Oh! Arunachala?

The Aham-sphurti ends up as Siva.  The dance of Nataraja is ending as non-moving Arunachala!

The dance of Siva and his non-moving Form of Arunachala has also been indicated in Sri Arunachala
Nava Mani Malai, Verse 1.

Achalane aayinum acchavai thannuL......

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 26, 2015, 04:54:41 PM »

This Ahamkara, Aham-sphurti and Aham principle is also described in the story of Mahabali.

Mahabali is a demon-king but known for his philanthrophy.  He never says No, to any alms-seekers.  Vaamana, the dwarf form of Narayana.  He seeks land (as alms) that cover three steps of this young
brahmin boy.  Mahabali agrees and gives out three times water on the boy's palm as a mark of promise.
By this Mahabali has given away all possessions.  Aham-kara or Aham-vritti is gone totally.  Mahabali,
now after giving the waters as promise looks up and sees Vaamana as the dance in his Heart, the
dance of I,I,I,.  There is Aham-sphurti.

Now, the boy Vaamana transforms himself as Trivakrama, the huge person who can measure the
two worlds as his two steps!  When he wants the place for the third step, Mahabali readily offers his
head. This bending of head, completes the annihilation of pure-ego that is still left.  He realizes the
Form, the Self or Arunachalam, within!

The process is similar to what Bhagavan Ramana describes in Verse 3 of Sri Arunachala Pancharatnam.  Where is this dance, the dance of I,I,I?  What is its Source?  It is Arunachalam, the non-moving Self, Brahman, Atman!

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 26, 2015, 04:50:03 PM »

A Brahma Jnani is ever placed on high pedestal and people  revere him.  It does not immediately mean,
that he is past all emotions.  He expresses his emotions only on extreme cases and situation and at the
drop of a hat. 

Once Ma Krishna Mayi chided her biographer.  You are writing only good things about me.
What do people think of me?  Why not you write about my anger, my disgust, my sleep during a
discourse?  Why do you treat me as a rubber doll?

We all try to treat a Brahma Jnani as a rubber doll.  We can  keep it on high pedestal once and then
crush him, kick him, caress him and push him.  Nothing will happen to the rubber doll, we think.
It is not so.

Bhagavan Ramana expressed anger very occasionally.  Once there was some tiff between Sarvadikari
and Dhandapani Swami. Both were shouting at each other and Dhandapani Swami held Sarvadikari's
neck and wanted to choke him.  Bhagavan Ramana came from behind and gave him a simple tap on
his back.  Dhandapani Swami felt as if a thunderbolt had descended! Bhagavan Ramana also chided the attendants whenever they were becoming naughty.  He has wept un controllablly when Echamma came
and reported her foster daughter's demise leaving a small kid behind!

Bhagavan Ramana once enjoyed the ganji (liquid rice porridge) and avial (mixed vegetable and curd preparation) so much that He asked for second helping!  Devotees were astonished!

Bhagavan Ramana swam on the waters of a tank in the Hill and played with Rangan, His school-mate.
He kicked him playfully while swimming. Please do not play with a Brahma Jnani as if he is a rubber
ball, always at your disposal.  He can express emotions, sometimes very powerfully that the erring
devotee cannot put up with them!

I always treat Bhagavan Ramana as my illustrious father. Sometimes, I am angry with Him.  Many times
I cry before His photograph.  Whenever I visit Tiruvannamalai, I cry before His samadhi.  These are
all good and Bhagavan takes care of me, with occasional chiding, cajoling, consoling and kicking.
In fact, I am the rubber doll for Him. And He is the player.

Arunachala Siva.   

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:45:17 PM »
Verse 10 of Vambanen: Tayumanavar:

தனிவளர் பொருளே மாறாத் தண்ணருங் கருணை பூத்த
இனியகற் பகமே முக்கண் எந்தையே நினக்கன் பின்றி
நனிபெருங் குடிலங் காட்டு நயனவேற் கரிய கூந்தல்
வனிதையர் மயக்கி லாழ்ந்து வருந்தவோ வம்பனேனே. 10.

Oh! Thou, Being of unique expansiveness!  The sweet Karpaga Wishing Tree
That unfailing yields blossoms of divine compassion. My Father of triple eye!
Instead of loving Thee, Am I to fall into the infatuation net of cunning damsels of dagger-like look
and dark tresses and waste away my life?

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:42:52 PM »
Verse 9 of Vambanen - Tayumanavar:

நடத்திஇவ் வுலகை யெல்லாம் நாதநீ நிறைந்த தன்மை
திடத்துட னறிந்தா னந்தத் தெள்ளமு தருந்தி டாதே
விடத்திர ளனைய காம வேட்கையி லழுந்தி மாயைச்
சடத்தினை மெய்யென் றெண்ணித் தளரவோ தனிய னேனே. 9.

Pervading everywhere Thou move the worlds all.
Knowing this for sure, I seek not to swill the ambrosia of Thy Bliss.
Deep in the poisonous mass of lust am I immersed. Am I to hold onto the body as true
And pine away forlorn?

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:39:48 PM »
Verse 8 of Vambanen: Tayumanavar:

தானமும் தவமும் யோகத் தன்மையும் உணரா என்பால்
ஞானமும் தெவிட்டா இன்ப நன்மையும் நல்கு வாயோ
பானலங் கவர்ந்த தீஞ்சொற் பச்சிளங் கிள்ளை காண
வானவர் இறைஞ்ச மன்றுள் வயங்கிய நடத்தி னானே. 8.

Neither charity nor tapas nor yoga do I know. To such as me, will you ever grant Jnana
and the goodly Bliss that cloyeth not?  Oh! Thou, who dances in the arena of space!
The Shakti of green parrot-like sweet speech to witness and the celestial beings to adore!

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:37:10 PM »
Verse 7 of Vambanen: Tayumanavar:

ஏறுவாம் பரியா ஆடை இருங்கலை உரியா என்றும்
நாறுநற் சாந்த நீறு நஞ்சமே அமுதாக் கொண்ட
கூறருங் குணத்தோய உன்றன் குரைகழல் குறுகி னல்லால்
ஆறுமோ தாப சோபம் அகலுமோ அல்லல் தானே. 7.

The bull for mount, the peeled skins for garment,  the ashes for fragrant unguents,
The poison for food - thus art thou of attributes indescribable!
Unless they near Thine Holy Feet, will hunger and thirst of births be ever allayed?
Will the sorrows of existence ever end?

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:31:08 PM »
Verse 6 of Vambanen  - Tayumanavar:

வாழ்வென வயங்கி என்னை வசஞ்செய்து மருட்டும் பாழ்த்த
ஊழ்வினைப் பகுதி கெட்டிங் குன்னையுங் கிட்டு வேனோ
தாழ்வெனுஞ் சமய நீங்கித் தமையுணர்ந் தோர்கட் கெல்லாஞ்
சூழ்வெளிப் பொருளே முக்கட் சோதியே அமர ரேறே. 6.

In the guise of life,  the karma of the past has enticed and enslaved me,
Threatening to engulf me. Will I ever get rid of it and attain Thee?
Thou art the Expanse Vast around for all those who have abandoned
Doctrinaire faiths so degrading and have realized their selves!
Thou art the Divine Flame of triple eyes! Thou, Lord of celestial beings!

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:28:19 PM »
Verse 5 of Vambanen - Tayumanavar:

உனக்குநா  னடித்தொண் டாகி உன்னடிக் கன்பு செய்ய
எனக்குநீ தோற்றி அஞ்சேல் என்னுநா ளெந்த நாளோ
மனக்கிலே சங்கள் தீர்ந்த மாதவர்க் கிரண்டற் றோங்குந்
தனக்குநே ரில்லா ஒன்றே சச்சிதா னந்த வாழ்வே. 5.

When is it that I will serve Thee in love endearing?  And when is it that Thou will appear before me
And say, ''Fear not?'' Thou, that appears as the Only One
To the holy tapasvin that have mental conflict all resolved.
Thou, the Peerless One! Thou, the Experience that is Truth-Knowledge-Bliss!

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:22:49 PM »
Verse 4 of Vambanen - Tayumanavar:

வஞ்சனை அழுக்கா றாதி வைத்திடும் பாண்ட மான
நெஞ்சனை வலிதின் மேன்மேல் நெக்குநெக் குருகப் பண்ணி
அஞ்சலி செய்யுங் கையும் அருவிநீர் விழியு மாகத்
தஞ்சமென் றிரங்கிக் காக்கத் தற்பரா பரமு னக்கே. 4.

Me, who is a pot in which is stored a heart filled with deceit, envy and the rest of evils.
Thou, of your own volition, melted and melted, and made me adore Thee with folded hands,
and streaming eyes.  And now, as I beseech Thee to grant me refuge,
It is for Thee, in compassion, to protect me. Thou, the Being Un-created!

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:20:02 PM »
Verse 3 of Vambanen:  Tayumanavar:

இருநில மாதி நாதம் ஈறதாம் இவைக டந்த
பெருநில மாய தூய பேரொளிப் பிழம்பாய் நின்றுங்
கருதரும் அகண்டா னந்தக் கடவுள்நின் காட்சி காண
வருகவென் றழைத்தா லன்றி வாழ்வுண்டோ வஞ்ச னேற்கே. 3.

Transcending the tattvas from the earth to Nada, in the sphere of spaces vast
Thou stand as the Massive Light Effulgent. Thou art indeed the God of Pervasive Bliss,
Baffling imagination. Unless Thou ask me to come and see Thine Glory,
Is there any hope of redemption for me - so false in my ways?

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:17:17 PM »
Verse 2 of Vambanen:  Tayumanavar:

குறைவிலா நிறைவாய் ஞானக் கோதிலா னந்த வெள்ளத்
துறையிலே படிந்து மூழ்கித் துளைந்துநான் தோன்றா வாறுள்
உறையிலே யுணர்த்தி மோன வொண்சுடர் வைவாள் தந்த
இறைவனே யுனைப்பி ரிந்திங் கிருக்கிலேன் இருக்கி லேனே. 2

In fullness undiminished, immersed in the blemish-less water of Jnana,
And verily drowned there. and without allowing me to raise my head,
Imparting from deep within, Thou, Lord, granted the shining sword of silentness!
I will not live apart from Thee.  Never apart from Thee!

Arunachala Siva.

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