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The Mahavakyas:


Verse  241:

These two - 'Thou' and 'That' -- become one when the 'Thou" has been purified according to the dictates
of the scriptures.

Verse 242:


What inconsistency do you speak of?  "That"  is like a great mountain, and 'Thou'  is like a great mountain,
and 'Thou' like an atom, if compared.  One is like a glow worm, the other like the sun. 'Thou' is so finite,
and when you call 'That' is infinite.  How can there be oneness?

Verse 243:

Though they are of different natures, yet in the proper essence, they are equal.  What difference you see
is only in Upadhi, or qualification.   The upadhi of God is Maya, which is the cause of mahat and its works.
And the upadhi of the jiva is the five sheaths and their works.

Verse 244:

Both are one substance.  This substance plus Maya and mahat is God, and the same substance plus
the five sheaths is the Jiva. Take away the upadhis of both, what is the same thing.  One man on a throne
is a king.  Again, the same man with a shield in hand is a warrior;  and if you take away both the throne
and the shield, he is neither the king nor the warrior.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.           

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:51:55 AM »
Verse  20:


நீளிடை முடுகி நடந்தெதிர்
   நேரிரு வரில்ஒரு வன்றொடர்
தாளிரு தொடையற முன்பெயர்
   சாரிகை முறைமை தடிந்தனன்
வாளொடு விழுமுடல் வென்றவன்
   மார்பிடை அறமுன் எறிந்திட
ஆளியி னவனு மறிந்தனன்
   ஆயினர் பலருள ரெங்கணும்.


In a long duel betwixt two warriors
One cut away both the legs of the other;
Ere he of the thigh-less body would fall
He threw his dagger at the victor?s chest rending it
Into two and thus killed the lion-like hero.
Thus was the field filled with dead men?s bodies.   

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:50:23 AM »
Verse  19:


குருதியின் நதிகள் பரந்தன
   குறையுடல் ஓடி யலைந்தன
பொருபடை அறுதுணி சிந்தின
   புடைசொரி குடருடல் பம்பின
வெருவர எருவை நெருங்கின
   விசியறு துடிகள் புரண்டன
இருபடை தனினும் எதிர்ந்தவர்
   எதிரெதிர் அமர்செய் பறந்தலை.


Blood ran in rivers; acephalous bodies roamed;
Slit bodies fell scattered; intestines lay a hill
By the side of piled-up carcases;
Dreadful vultures gathered; tudis fell
Slit from their tethering leather;
Thus they fought fierce in the field.

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:48:14 AM »
Verse  18:


வாளொடு நீள்கை துடித்தன
   மார்பொடு வேல்கள் குளித்தன
தோளொடு வாளி நிலத்தன
   தோலொடு தோல்கள் தகைத்தன
தாளொடு வார்கழ லிற்றன
   தாரொடு சூழ்சிர மற்றன
நாளொடு சீறி மலைப்பவர்
   நாடிய போர்செய் களத்தினில்.


Severed hands still gripping their swords, trembled;
Spears smote chests and were bathed in blood;
Darts severing shoulders stuck to them and fell on earth;
Shields were glued into flesh; feet and anklets broke;
Thus they fought and little rock for their lives.


Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:46:33 AM »
Verse  17:


வெங்கண் விறற்சிலை வீரர்கள்
   வேறிரு கையிலும் நேர்பவர்
தங்கள் சிலைக்குலம் உந்தின
   தாவில் சரங்கள் நெருங்குவ
பொங்கு சினத்தெரி யிற்புகை
   போகு கொடிக்கள் வளைத்தெதிர்
செங்கண் விழிக்கனல் சிந்திய
   சீறு பொறிச்செல வொத்தன.


Bowmen against bowmen fought in a different part
Of the field where arrows met arrows;
Eyes of warriors were like pits of fire;
When they knit their brows, smoke issued
In steaming columns, the sped arrows
Were verily the sparks of fire.

Arunachala Siva.
.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:44:51 AM »
Verse  16:


கால்கழல் கட்டிய மள்ளர்கள்
   கைகளின் மெய்க ளடக்கிய
வாளொளி வட்ட முனைந்திட
   வந்திரு கைகளின் முந்தினர்
வேலொடு வேலெதிர் நீள்வன
   மேவிய பாதலம் விட்டுயர்
ஞாலமு றும்பணி வீரர்கள்
   நாநிமிர் கின்றன வொத்தன.



In the hands of warriors -- decked with heroic anklets,
Were shields screening their bodies, and swords;
From opposing sides came they and fought.
Spears encountered spears in that great battle.
It looked like the projection of tongues
Of Naga heroes issuing from their world.   

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:42:42 AM »
Verse 15:


மேக வொழுங்குகள் முன்கொடு
   மின்னிரை தம்மிடை யேகொடு
மாக மருங்கினும் மண்ணினும்
   வல்லுரு மேறெதிர் செல்வன
வாக நெடும்பல கைக்குல
   மாள்வினை வாளுடை யாடவர்
காக மிடைந்த களத்திரு
   கைகளின் வந்து கலந்தனர்.



Like rows of clouds winged with lightning,
Like thunder against thunder on earth and sky,
The warriors holding shields and wielding swords
In opposing ranks charged in that battle-field
Where crows and ravens gathered galore.   

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:39:55 AM »
Verse 14:


என்றுபகைத் தோனுரைப்ப
   ஏனாதி நாதரது
நன்றுனக்கு வேண்டுமேல்
   நண்ணுவன்என் றுள்மகிழ்ந்து
சென்றவன்முன் சொன்ன
    செருக்களத்துப் போர்குறிப்பக்
கன்றி யிருபடையும்
   கைவகுத்து நேர்மலைவார்.



When the foe spake thus, Yenati Nathar said:
"If that be your wish, I'll meet you there."
He consented inwardly rejoicing, and fared forth
To that field and stood triggered for the battle.
The angry armies began their fight.

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:37:40 AM »
Verse 13:



வந்தழைத்த மாற்றான்
   வயப்புலிப்போத் தன்னார்முன்
நந்தமது வாட்பயிற்று
   நற்றாயங் கொள்ளுங்கால்
இந்தவெளி மேற்கை
   வகுத்திருவேம் பொருபடையும்
சந்தித் தமர்விளைத்தால்
   சாயாதார் கொள்வதென.


The foe who called him to battle, stood facing
Him -- the triumphant tiger --, and said:
"The gains of our art of fencing we practice
As of right, should go to him who is the victor;
With our armies we'll fight in the open field."   

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:35:36 AM »
Verse  12:


புறப்பட்ட போதின்கண்
   போர்த்தொழில்வாள் கற்கும்
விறற்பெருஞ்சீர்க் காளையர்கள்
   வேறிடத்தி னின்றார்
மறப்படைவாள் சுற்றத்தார்
   கேட்டோடி வந்து
செறற்கரும்போர் வீரர்க்
   கிருமருங்குஞ் சேர்ந்தார்கள்.

As he moved out, coming to know of the impending battle,
Many lads trained by him in skilled warfare,
Innumerable warriors, also trained by him and engage
In other places, and his kith and kin equipped with
Many dreadful weapons of war and swords
Rushed to the rare hero invincible,
And stood on either side of him in battle rank.   

Arunachala Siva.


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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:30:36 AM »
Verse  11:


ஆர்கொல் பொரவழைத்தார்
   என்றரியேற் றிற்கிளர்ந்து
சேர்வு பெறக்கச்சில்
   செறிந்தவுடை மேல்வீக்கி
வார்கழலுங் கட்டி
   வடிவாள் பலகைகொடு
போர்முனையில் ஏனாதி
   நாதர் புறப்பட்டார்.



"Who is he that challenges me?" he asked:
Up he rose like a lion, girded his loins tight,
Decked his foot with heroic anklet,
Took out his sword of steel and shield,
And came out of the house ready for the battle.   

Arunachala Siva.

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: February 15, 2016, 05:56:34 AM »



Bhagavan Ramana's unseen Presence works wonders even today.  Only faith and conviction are
required.  He can come in any form or he can send any form of living being to help us.  We
do not know His ways, how He operates etc.,  We are wondering whether a Brahma Jnani after
Maha Nirvanam, a birth-less and deathless  state, could come down again to help devotees, in a
form.  Because there is no reincarnations for a Jnani.   In that respect, we should conclude that
His Presence works wonders.

I shall narrate one incident which happened during our first visit of the year 2008.  My wife and I
went in the car.  Usually, we start at 5.00 am, to avoid crowds on the road particularly up to Hosur,
in the Banglore-Hosur Road.  In Hosur, we halted near a very small hotel for coffee.  While I and
my driver went to take  coffee, my wife said, that she would stay in the car and being a small hotel,
one of the servers could bring her a cup of coffee to the car.  When we were away and when she was
holding the coffee cup and saucer on her hands, a boy of about 16 years, wearing a cotton half-trouser
suddenly came, opened the door from the driver's side and started operating the steering wheel. 
My wife became totally afraid and she was calling people.  The boy stopped his 'mischief' with the
steering wheel and checked the cassettes in the dash board.  Then he looked at my wife and said:
"Why are you looking at me?  Why are you looking at me?."...My wife picked up some courage and
offered coffee.  He said:  "Why all this for me?".....  He then left his seat and on the road he
disappeared.  When we came, and when general public came, he could not be found.  My wife was
nervous for sometime.

Around 9.45 AM., we reached the Asramam, took the key from Doctor Srinivasamurthy and then
rushed to the Samadhi Hall, after a quick look at the Hill and Mother Yogamba.  There, after seeing
Bhagavan Ramana's large size photograph taken at the age of 21 (when He wrote WHO AM I?),
my wife exclaimed:  "He only came. He only came.  The same penetrating eyes.  Long nails.
Instead of codpiece, a half-trouser.  Now I remember.  Now I remember....."   She had seen
Bhagavan Ramana's particular photo many times in the books at home.  But she did not recollect
that the boy in Hosur.  She suddenly remembered when she saw the large size photograph in the
Samadhi Hall.       

What is the explanation?  My wife says that there could have been accident to our car in the journey.  Bhagavan Ramana came and set right the car!   I think she should be correct.  How else to explain
this?

Karunaiayal ennnai aandu konda nee, enakku un
Katchi thanthu arulinai enral.....   (Sri Arunachala Padigam Verse 10)

Arunachala Siva.

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: February 15, 2016, 05:50:34 AM »


Suri Nagamma's life is one great wonder.  Even for writing Letters from Sri Ramanasramam, she
had some opposition.  Sarvadhikari did not want her to write anything, after some time.
Bhagavan Ramana kept as usual mum.  But later Sarvadhikari relented and today we have got
2 volumes of her letters which are simple (and not pedantic like those of Munagala and others)
but very revealing in regard to Bhagavan Ramana's teachings.


Arunachala Siva.

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: February 15, 2016, 05:48:43 AM »


The Hill story is like this:  Seeing Bhagavan Ramana, (He was very young then) roaming all
around the Hill, the an cooly lady remarked:  "Fie, You be put in pyre.  summa sivanenu
irrukkapadatha?  "Will not you be still, as Siva, why are you moving
here and there?" 

This, Bhagavan Ramana said was the highest advice for Him.

Arunachala Siva.

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General Discussion / Re: Communication and Attention - Vidya Sridhar:
« on: February 14, 2016, 02:38:56 PM »
There is another proverb in Tamizh that says, 'Thottil pazhakkam sudukadu mattum', which says,
'What habits are formed in the cradle stay till the cremation ground.'  Can one expect the TV and computer
to give positive guidance and experiences that will stay with children throughout their lives?  Hence today's
generation has much at stake and it is important that it raises the children with positive attitudes and tendencies. Positive reactions and habits can be inculcated by paying full attention through the eye to eye contact. Children will grow up feeling secure, contended and peaceful when given the attention they need.

In the modern world, people have found no limit to their desire to acquire gadgets from the ever increasing
temptations that the world market puts forth.  Although there is an increase in the number of tools, appliances
and goods that have outwardly raised the standard of living, this has only caused physical health and mental
peace to deteriorate. Hence more and more people in this world suffer from depression, and anxiety
and have to take to medication.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.   
 
 

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