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General topics / Re: And Another Thing...
« on: February 04, 2016, 11:06:20 AM »
Some of the things we learned as children were only to use the right hand for giving or receiving
anything or for eating.  And never to point the soles of our feet at anyone as that was very bad
manners.  Bhagavan Himself sanctioned that practice on one well documented occasion. But I feel
He knew that the lady in question, who was a foreigner and did not know Indian customs, meant to
disrespect and would have been mortified to know that she had been discourteous and she probably
could not sit cross legged anyway.  This was before the days of widespread yoga practice and the way
before the days of universal appreciation of Indian sages.  The thin but steady trickle of foreigners     
tended to be sincere and reverent. Still it bothers me when i see Indians doing this as I assume they
know local customs.  Or perhaps not.  We were also taught not to eat or drink in front of elders or
those to whom we should show respect unless it was at mealtimes so I have to get used seeing people
unless it was at mealtimes so I have got used to seeing people with their water bottles sipping
away wherever they are.  Times do indeed change and I am sure one should learn to change with
them but it certainly is not easy!


Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Guru Ramana Prasadam - (II)
« on: February 04, 2016, 10:51:57 AM »
Verse 215:

Beneath my guru's gaze my heart was emptied of guile so that the false understanding which
had usurped my heart disappeared completely, and there, in silence at His holy feet, the pure ocean
of the Self, which nothing can contain, swept me up into the deep bliss of absolute Godhead.   

Verse 216:

To remain with the mind destroyed through dedication to the Lord is one glorious natural state,
the reality of the Self.  In  that state of delight that is the company of the guru's holy feet, there
exists nothing else to excite my desire other than Him.

Verse 217:

If the impetuosity of the deluded mind that drives us on is destroyed by our Lord,  before whom even
Gods bow down, singing paeans of praise, and then, if we cling to those fair feet, the grace- consciouness
that abolishes desire, all other clinging will be destroyed.

Verse 218:

Performing menial service to that treasure house of compassion, whose true wisdom is praised in the
four corners of the earth, I perceived and embraced final emancipation.  For the devotees of our gracious
Creator, there is no more exalted service -- for that indeed is the true spiritual practice of the wise.


Arunachala Siva.     

General topics / Re: The Guiding Presence:
« on: February 04, 2016, 10:41:32 AM »
Paul Brunton in his A Search in Secret India wrote of the impact of Ramana on him when he sat in the
Old Hall:

'A hush falls upon the little company.  The minutes slowly pass but the silence only deepens.
I am not religious but I can no more resist the feeling of increasing awe which begins to grip
my mind than a bee resist a flower in all its luscious bloom.  The Hall is becoming pervaded with
a subtle, intangible and indefinable power which affects me deeply.  I feel, without doubt and without
hesitation, the center of this mysterious power is no other than the Maharshi himself.

"His eyes shine with astonishing brilliance. Strange sensations begin to arise in me.  Those lustrous
orbs seem to be peering into the inner recess of my soul.... There comes a perceptible change in  the
telepathic current which plays between us, the while my eyes blink frequently but His remain without
the least tremor.  I become aware that He is definitely linking my own mind with His, that He is
provoking my heart into that state of starry calm which He seems perpetually to enjoy.  In this
extraordinary peace, I find a sense of exaltation and lightness. Time seems to stand still. My heart
is released from its burden of care."  ( A Search in Secret India,.pp.161-162)


Arunachala Siva.               

The Non-attachment of the Self:

Verse 189:

The mind or buddhi, creates everything, but remaining in the Upadhis (super imposed adjuncts),
the Atman appears as the doer, enjoyer, etc.,

Verse 190:

The Atman, through the Atman of all, sees itself separate.  Identifying itself with this intellect, it
becomes as that which is cut off from the whole limited, as a pitcher is cut off from the earth.

Verse 191:

Only because of that contact with the upadhis (super imposed adjuncts) does this Atman manifest
qualities which are in name -- as the fire from the contact with the iron takes the qualities that are
in the iron -- and yet does not change its nature. Therefore, this Atman  is always uniform.  Its nature
is beyond everything.

The Path of Liberation:

Verse 192 & 193:

The disciple said:

So far I have understood, but if this is so, liberation is impossible.  You say that through ignorance
the Atman has become bound, and you say that there is no beginning to these upadhis.  If it is so,
how can it end?  There cannot be an end to what has no beginning, and therefore, this state of egoism
must be endless.  So how can there be any liberation?  Kindly tell me that O Savior of mankind.   

Verse 194 & 195:

The Master said:

You have questioned rightly and fully, O learned one.  Now listen attentively and carefully. The
imagination that one has through delusion, (through ignorance), can never be an established fact.

And without ignorance there can never be any contact with the objects  - with the upadhis of that
Atman -- who is alone, actionless, and formless, as the blueness of the sky.


Arunachala Siva.                     

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 10:00:41 AM »
Verse  8:

முஞ்சி நாணுற முடிந்தது சாத்திய அரையில்
தஞ்ச மாமறைக் கோவண ஆடையின் அசைவும்
வஞ்ச வல்வினைக் கறுப்பறு மனத்தடி யார்கள்
நெஞ்சில் நீங்கிடா அடிமலர் நீள்நிலம் பொலிய.

On His waist was a string of munji from which
Was suspended His Kovanam wrought of the Vedas
Which for ever seek Him, their palladium.
He walked on earth with His flowery feet
Which are ever enshrined in the bosoms
Of His devotees who have quelled the murk of deception.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 09:58:25 AM »
Verse 7:

செய்ய ஒண்சடை கரந்ததோர் திருமுடிச் சிகையும்
சைவ வெண்திரு நீற்றுமுண் டகத்தொளித் தழைப்பும்
மெய்யின் வெண்புரி நூலுடன் விளங்குமான் தோலும்
கையின் மன்னிய பவித்திர மரகதக் கதிரும்.

His beauteous tuft concealed His red matted hair;
Triple stripes of the Holy Ash -- the insignia of Saivism,
Blazed from His forehead; the holy thread to which
Was tied a piece of deer-skin, his body bore;
He wore on a finger a Pavitra of emerald darbha.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 09:56:17 AM »
Verse  6:

பிறைத்த ளிர்ச்சடைப் பெருந்தகைப் பெருந்திரு நல்லூர்க்
கறைக்க ளத்திறை கோவணப் பெருமைமுன் காட்டி
நிறைத்த அன்புடைத் தொண்டர்க்கு நீடருள் கொடுப்பான்
மறைக்கு லத்தொரு பிரமசா ரியின்வடி வாகி.

One day the blue-throated Lord of Tirunalloor vast,
Who is the great One that bears on His matted hair
The crescent -- verily a tender shoot --, desiring to
Demonstrate the glory of His Kovanam, and thereby
Bless His devotee with enduring grace, assumed
The form of a Brahmin-Brahmachari.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 09:54:03 AM »
Verse  5:

மருவும் அன்பொடு வணங்கினர் மணிகண்டர் நல்லூர்த்
திருவி ழாவணி சேவித்துத் திருமடத் தடியார்
பெருகும் இன்பமோ டமுதுசெய் திடஅருள் பேணி
உருகு சிந்தையின் மகிழ்ந்துறை நாளிடை ஒருநாள்.

Adoring in linked love the Lord and eyeing in devotion
The divine and beauteous festival of the Blue-throated,
And hailing His grace which enabled him to feast
In the beauteous Matam His devotees in increasing joy
With a melting heart, he spent his days thither.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:47:43 AM »
Verse  4:

முக்கண் நக்கராம் முதல்வனா ரவர்திரு நல்லூர்
மிக்க சீர்வளர் திருவிழா விருப்புடன் வணங்கித்
தக்க அன்பர்கள் அமுதுசெய் திருமடஞ் சமைத்தார்
தொக்க சுற்றமுந் தாமும்வந் தணைந்தனர் தூயோர்.

In Tirunalloor of the First One, the triple-eyed Digambara,
He attended the divinely glorious festival of the Lord,
And founded a beauteous Matam for feeding devotees;
Then (after a time) he, the pure one, arrived at
Tirunalloor with his kith and kin.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:45:56 AM »
Verse  3:

சிந்தை செய்வது சிவன்கழல் அல்லதொன் றில்லார்
அந்தி வண்ணர்தம் அடியவர்க் கமுதுசெய் வித்துக்
கந்தை கீளுடை கோவணங் கருத்தறிந் துதவி
வந்த செல்வத்தின் வளத்தினால் வரும்பயன் கொள் வார்.

He would think on nought but the feet of Siva;
He would feast the devotees of Siva whose hue
Is that of the incarnadine sky crepuscular;
Divining the wish of devotees he would
Give them gratis kantai, keell and kovanam.
Thus did he the fruit of his foison, gain.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:44:19 AM »
Verse  2:

மன்னு மப்பதி வணிகர்தங் குலத்தினில் வந்தார்
பொன்னு முத்துநன் மணிகளும் பூந்துகில் முதலா
எந்நி லத்தினும் உள்ளன வருவளத் தியல்பால்
அந்நி லைக்கண்மிக் கவர்அமர் நீதியார் என்பார்.

He hailed from the merchant-clan of that city;
With gold, pearls and goodly gems, and varieties
Of silk-products pouring in from all the realms,
He was richly endowed and throve a merchant great;
Amar-Niti was he called.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:41:51 AM »
Amar Neethi Nayanar:

Verse  1:

சீரின் நீடிய செம்பியர் பொன்னிநன் னாட்டுக்
காரின் நீடிய களியளி மலர்ப்பொழில் சூழ்ந்து
தேரின் மேவிய செழுமணி வீதிகள் சிறந்து
பாரில் நீடிய பெருமைசேர் பதிபழை யாறை.

It is in the Kaveri delta of the Chozhas of great renown;
It is dight with flowery gardens which reach the clouds,
And are buzzed over by joyous bees; through its streets
Pass chariots; it is a famous and great city on earth;
It is Pazhayarai.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:39:22 AM »
Verse  11:

வேறு பிறிதென் திருத்தொண்டத்
   தொகையால் உலகு விளங்கவரும்
பேறு தனக்குக் காரணராம்
   பிரானார் விறன்மிண் டரின்பெருமை
கூறும் அளவெம் அளவிற்றே
   அவர்தாள் சென்னி மேற்கொண்டே
ஆறை வணிகர் அமர்நீதி
   அன்பர் திருத்தொண் டறைகுவாம்.

Why expatiate further? The world is enlightened by
The Tiru-th-Tonda-th-Tokai and it is to Viran Mindar we owe it.
Is it given to me to hail him in full?
We wear on our crown his feet and proceed to
Narrate the service of the merchant Amar-Niti of Arai.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:37:27 AM »
Verse  10:

ஒக்க நெடுநாள் இவ்வுலகில்
   உயர்ந்த சைவப் பெருந்தன்மை
தொக்க நிலைமை நெறிபோற்றித்
   தொண்டு பெற்ற விறன்மிண்டர்
தக்க வகையால் தம்பெருமான்
   அருளி னாலே தாள்நிழற்கீழ்
மிக்க கணநா யகராகும்
   தன்மை பெற்று விளங்கினார்.

Viran Mindar who for many many days
Served on earth the cause of Saivism, sublime and lofty,
By the grace of our Lord, fittingly reached the shade
Of His feet and for ever thrives as a Gana-Natha.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:34:37 AM »
Verse 9:

ஞால முய்ய நாமுய்ய
   நம்பி சைவ நன்னெறியின்
சீல முய்யத் திருத்தொண்டத்
   தொகைமுன் பாடச் செழுமறைகள்
ஓல மிடவும் உணர்வரியார்
   அடியா ருடனாம் உளதென்றால்
ஆலம் அமுது செய்தபிரான்
   அடியார் பெருமை அறிந்தார்ஆர்.

 For the world to thrive, for our own flourishing
And for the prospering of the goodly ways of Saivism
Aroorar composed and hymned
(before Devasiriyan) The Tiru-th-Tonda-th-Tokai; the Lord who was not to be
Comprehended by the Vedas rich in chhandas
Declared: "We abide where devotees are."
Who can hymn the glory of the Lord who devoured
Poison which into nectar He transformed?   

Arunachala Siva.

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