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Later in he Asramam while meditating, the Devi appeared to me holding various ornaments and weapons,
and offering them to me, a form which I later identified as a form of Durga, called Mahishasuramardini.
These I came to know were different teachings and practices that she  bestowed to her devotees, just
as she gave them to her son Skanda. One needs plenty of such tools in order to be successful in one's
meditation.   There are so many obstacles for which different methods are needed. These have proved
very helpful, if not crucial through time.  I have learned to appreciate the abundance of such approaches.
Rather than struggling mentally with any problems, I call up one of the weapons of the Goddess to deal with them.

In connection between Ramana and Skanda led me more deeply into the works of Ganapati Muni, one of
Ramana's earliest and greatest disciples, who more than anyone lauded Ramana as Skanda.  Ganapati
produced many beautiful Sanskrit verses connecting the two.  This served as a door into Ganapati's
work and his vision of Ramana.  It further served to connect my Vedic work with Ramana.  Ganapati
connected both Skanda and Ramana with Agni, the sacred fire of the Vedas, the embodiment of Vedic
wisdom.  Eventually I came into contact with K. Natesan, a great disciple of Ganapati who resides at
the Asramam, who so kindly gave me Ganapati's unpublished works and helped explain these connections
to me. This brought the influence of Ganapati as a constant inspiration. Ganapati was a great devotee of
the Goddess, particularly in the form of Uma, and brings her blessings to those who honor him.


Arunachala Siva.         

Verse  262:

That which manifests in different things by name and form, and yet remains in its own pristine glory,
like gold in different ornaments  -- always Brahman-- Thou art That.  Think this in thine own self.

Verse 263:

To whom there is no superior, the superior of all, one blissfulness, truth, knowledge and bliss, eternal
and immortal -- that is Brahman.  Thou art That .  Think this in thine own self.

Verse 264:

After all these that have been said, he who sees within his own self according to the dictates of the scriptures,
and becomes free from all doubts, knows this Atman as definitely as water in the hand.

Verse  265:

Only the consciousness free from all doubts know that, as the king among the soldiers. Taking your stand
in that Self always, reduce everything to the Atman.

Verse  266:

In the cave of the heart, separate from the manifested and the unmanifested, Brahman exists -  the Truth,
Supreme, the One. He who knows Brahman within his own soul and abides in Him, for him there is no
entering a body.  (rebirth).


Arunachala Siva.       

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:30:01 AM »
Verse  30:

மலைபடு மணியும் பொன்னும்
   தரளமும் வரியின் தோலும்
கொலைபுரி களிற்றின் கோடும்
    பீலியின் குவையும் தேனும்
தொலைவில்பல் நறவும் ஊனும்
    பலங்களுங் கிழங்குந் துன்றச்
சிலையுடை வேடர் கொண்டு
   திசைதொறும் நெருங்க வந்தார்.

From all directions came the practicing bowmen
With gems of the hills, gold and pearls,
And also hides of tigers, tusks of murderous tuskers,
Heaps of peacock feathers, (wild) honey,
And countless jars of liquor, varieties of meat
Fruits and tubers too.

Arunachala Siva.   

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:27:48 AM »
Verse  29:

வேடர்தங் கோமான் நாகன்
   வென்றிவேள் அருளாற் பெற்ற
சேடரின் மிக்க செய்கைத்
    திண்ணன்விற் பிடிக்கின் றான்என்
றாடியல் துடியுஞ் சாற்றி
   யறைந்தபே ரோசை கேட்டு
மாடுயர் மலைக ளாளும்
   மறக்குலத் தலைவ ரெல்லாம்.

All the heroic leaders of the hills in the neighborhood
Heard the loud announcement through beat of tudi
That Thinnan -- the son of the hunters? king Nakan,
Whose deeds proclaim him to be greater than
Men of great intellect, the one born on earth
By the grace of Lord Skandan --, is about to be
Initiated in the art of archery.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:25:53 AM »
Verse  28:

தந்தையும் மைந்த னாரை
   நோக்கித்தன் தடித்த தோளால்
சிந்தையுள் மகிழப் புல்லிச்
   சிலைத்தொழில் பயிற்ற வேண்டி
முந்தையத் துறையின் மிக்க
   முதியரை அழைத்துக் கூட்டி
வந்தநாட் குறித்த தெல்லாம்
   மறவர்க்குச் சொல்லி விட்டான்.

His father felt glad that he reached the proper age;
He hugged him close with his strong shoulders;
Desiring to train him well in archery
He gathered the old and veteran bowmen;
After due consultation with them all, he fixed
An auspicious day and proclaimed it to his tribesmen.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:23:47 AM »
Verse  27:

அலர்பகல் கழிந்த அந்தி
   ஐயவிப் புகையு மாட்டிக்
குலமுது குறத்தி யூட்டிக்
   கொண்டுகண் துயிற்றிக் கங்குல்
புலரஊன் உணவு நல்கிப்
   புரிவிளை யாட்டின் விட்டுச்
சிலமுறை யாண்டு செல்லச்
   சிலைபயில் பருவஞ் சேர்ந்தார்.

At dusk a matron of the hunting tribe would
Twirl round him a platter of smoking mustard,
Feed him and put him to bed in the place assigned;
At dawn she would feed him with meat
And leave him to pursue his sport.
Thus rolled on a few years, and he now reached
The age when he could be taught to wield the bow.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:21:59 AM »
Verse  26:

கடுமுயற் பறழி னோடும்
   கானஏ னத்தின் குட்டி
கொடுவரிக் குருளை செந்நாய்
   கொடுஞ்செவிச் சாப மான
முடுகிய விசையி லோடித்
   தொடர்ந்துடன் பற்றி முற்றத்
திடுமரத் தாளிற் கட்டி
   வளர்ப்பன எண்ணி லாத.

He chased the young rabbits swift, cubs of jungle hogs
And striped tigers and also the pups of red ferocious dogs,
Captured them and tethered them to the trees
That grew aloft in the fore-yard of his house.
Countless were the animals reared by Kannappar.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:19:57 AM »
Verse  25:

அனையன பலவும் செய்தே
   ஐந்தின்மே லான ஆண்டில்
வனைதரு வடிவார் கண்ணி
   மறச்சிறு மைந்த ரோடும்
சினைமலர்க் காவு ளாடிச்
   செறிகுடிக் குறிச்சி சூழ்ந்த
புனைமருப் புழலை வேலிப்
   புறச்சிறு கானிற் போகி.

Varied were his sport and pastime, and he was
Six summers old; with catapults and traps
He played with heroic hunter-boys in flowery gardens;
His play-field extended into the nearby jungle
Beyond the ivory fence set with Uzhuvais.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:17:38 AM »
Verse 24:

துடிக்குற டுருட்டி யோடித்
   தொடக்குநாய்ப் பாசஞ் சுற்றிப்
பிடித்தறுத் தெயினப் பிள்ளைப்
   பேதையர் இழைத்த வண்டல்
அடிச்சிறு தளிராற் சிந்தி
   அருகுறு சிறுவ ரோடும்
குடிச்சிறு குரம்பை யெங்கும்
   குறுநடைக் குறும்பு செய்து.

He piled the go-cart shaped like a small tudi;
He caught hold of the tethering leash of a dog,
Tugged at it and snapped it; he kicked away
With his pretty feet -- tender as shoot --, the toy-houses
Built by the little girls of the hunting clan;
He played with the infants of the bowmen
And thus sported in great fun in all the huts.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:15:44 AM »
Verse  23:

பொருபுலிப் பார்வைப் பேழ்வாய்
   முழையெனப் பொற்கை நீட்டப்
பரிவுடைத் தந்தை கண்டு
   பைந்தழை கைக்கொண் டோச்ச
இருசுடர்க் குறுகண் தீர்க்கும்
   எழில்வளர் கண்ணீர் மல்கி
வருதுளி முத்தம் அத்தாய்
   வாய்முத்தங் கொள்ள மாற்றி.

When a trained tiger oped its mouth agape
He deemed it a cave and into it inserted his golden hand;
His father in love brandished a green twig
At which his two beauteous eyes which can cure
The harm to be suffered by the sun and the moon,
Were suffused with tears; when these tear-drops
Rolled down his cheeks, Thatthai kissed them away.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:13:44 AM »
Verse  22:

தண்மலர் அலங்கல் தாதை
   தாய்மனங் களிப்ப வந்து
புண்ணிய கங்கை நீரில்
   புனிதமாந் திருவாய் நீரில்
உண்ணனைந் தமுதம் ஊறி
   ஒழுகிய மழலைத் தீஞ்சொல்
வண்ணமென் பவளச் செவ்வாய்
   குதட்டியே வளரா நின்றார்.

To the great delight of his parents
He walked forth in pretty little gait;
His lovely words of prattle were soaked in his saliva
Of sheer nectar, holier than the water of the Ganga
And fell from his roseate lips enchantingly.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 20, 2016, 08:11:41 AM »
Verse  21:

பாசொளி மணியோ டார்த்த
   பன்மணிச் சதங்கை ஏங்கக்
காசொடு தொடுத்த காப்புக்
   கலன்புனை அரைஞாண் சேர்த்தித்
தேசுடை மருப்பில் தண்டை
   செறிமணிக் குதம்பை மின்ன
மாசறு கோலங் காட்டி
   மறுகிடை யாடும் நாளில்.

His feet were decked with resounding chalankai
Set with bright gems and pretty tintinnabula;
His waist was adorned with a cord set with
Tiny coins and lovely jewels; his hands were
Decked with bracelets wrought of ivory;
Gemmy kutampais dazzled from his ear-lobes;
Thus he glowed flawless when he played
As a little child in the street.   

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: February 20, 2016, 06:50:06 AM »

It was on 1st Jan 2010, Bhagavan's Jayanti Day and Kanakammal's Liberation Day.
The morning breakfast was served in the Asramam, around 7.00 A.M. The crowd was
already heavy.  There were batches in the Dining Hall and also on the pandal erected between
Old Hall and Cow's Samadhi.  The crowds were swelling every hour.  The lunch time was
pre-poned to 11.00 AM because of the heavy crowds. Dr. Srinivasamurthy and his assistants
were managing the crowds very efficiently without giving room for even the slightest anger
or sulking.  It was decided to permit people, first the womenfolk and children.  My wife was
permitted around 12 Noon in the second batch.  But men were asked to wait.  The Samadhi Hall
shutters were put and there were already about 1000 people inside and another 800 people outside.
I was outside the shutters.  I did not know what to do.  To take food after 5 hours gap usually
gives me some giddiness.  I was feeling giddy.  Nevertheless I wanted to stay inside the Asramam,
and take food, because I had to leave by 3 PM on that day, and I did not want to miss the Jayanti
prasadam.  I started chanting Arunachala Siva, Arunachala Siva....  The group outside was allowed
into the Hall, around 1 PM.  I sat inside before Bhagavan Ramana chanting Arunachala Siva,
Arunachala Siva....  I knew I was getting more and more giddy and I was just taking some water
from the water bag in small quantities.  I and others were permitted to the Pandal around 1.30 PM.
The food was served very quickly and I had the prasadam of Bhagavan Ramana, to my heart's content.
My wife came in between and asked:  How are you?  How are you?  I said, I am not okay but I can

I did manage with Bhagavan Ramana's grace and with chanting of Maha Mantra.

Arunachala Siva. 


Recovery is really based on four principal ideas.  The first is that as an addict or a family member you are
utterly 'powerless' over drugs, alcohol or any other addiction.  The second is that because of this the only
choice is to turn to something bigger than yourself ... your sense of a higher power or the sacred.  For some
this higher power be just the power of the group they go to.  The third is realizing that your thinking, in its
attitude and behaviors has been disturbed by the addiction or the addict and you accept that you want to
change your attitudes and behavior.  The fourth is that you can only keep the gift of healing that you have
received if you give away by helping others.

Perhaps the most liberating principle of 12 step programmes for addictions is religious freedom.....
freedom from the religion. It can be anything you see it as.  The unifying principle has been echoed
repeatedly.  On the portals of the temple of Delphi were written two things.  'Everything in moderation
and Know the self.'  'Christ said, 'The kingdom of God is within'.  Shakespeare said, 'This above all-to-
thine own self be true, and it must follow as the night the day thou canst not be false to any man.'  Vivekananda said, 'It is a blessing to be born in a religion and a tragedy to die in one.'  Sri Ramana
Maharshi said, 'Happiness is your nature.  It is not wrong to desire it. What is wrong is seeking it outside
when it is inside.'


Arunachala Siva.           

He looked at it for a long time waiting to open its wings but it just seemed to wriggle about.
Eventually he placed it by the open window where he thought the air would help it.  He went off
to ask his Granny for her help.  She came back with him but the creature was lying on its back with
its legs straight in the air as if dead.  His Granny said, 'When a butterfly is trying to get out of its cocoon,
it struggles so hard that its heart beats faster and faster until its blood pressure gets very high.  The very
high pressure forces blood into the wings so that they open up, thus breaking open the cocoon.  It is
the only way a butterfly wings can open.'

The loved ones of drug addicts and alcoholics usually support their illnesses and cover up all of their mistakes
and shortcomings.  But this only prolongs and prevents the addict and their family from getting proper help.
Family and friends think they can control and cure the addictions but they are unmanageable diseases which
can only be arrested.

Referring to the addict for medical or psychological help usually wastes time because most doctors,
psychiatrists and psychotherapists are not experts in this area.  It is recovering addicts or recovering
alcoholics themselves who are the experts. The proof is simply that they are 'clean' and sober and largely
remain 'clean' and sober.  Any other therapy is usually either a waste of time or will only eventually lead
to Narcotics /Alcoholic Anonymous, so that they might as well go straight to Narcotics /Alcoholic Anonymous
to start with.

The drug addict / alcoholic may have some other problems which can be helped by the therapy but this
can only happen later on.  The primary problem must be spelled out and acted on first, otherwise it risks,
and may encourage, denial and avoidance and can perpetuate the problem.  A person who goes to Narcotics
Anonymous or Alcoholics Anonymous will learn something that they can learn no other way.

Most drug addicts or alcoholics who stop taking drugs or drink without using their resources offered for support and development by Narcotics /Alcoholics Anonymous remain as fragmented addicts or sober drunks.
Usually their block in going to Narcotics /Alcoholics Anonymous is obsessional fear simply due to their lack of
emotional tools and skills. Ironically Narcotics /Alcoholic Anonymous is just the place where they will find these
emotional tools.

Similarly anyone who had had to suffer and endure living with a drug addict / alcoholic is usually wounded
on so many levels of consciousness that there is no point in thinking they can get adequate help from well
meaning doctors, psychologists and psychotherapists. They are best helped by friends and families of other
drug addicts /alcoholics who have worked through this and who are therefore experts.  They offer hope that there is a way out for families and friends to avoid being overwhelmed by a drug addict / alcoholic and their

Families and friends need to understand how to deal with their emotions and their sense of their 'inner self'.
They need to look again  with another 'understanding family' to try to see the drug addiction / alcoholism
with loving non attachment. They can then reconnect with others, their 'inner self' and their sense of the
sacred. Their boundaries, attitudes and relationships can then at last begin to improve as they recover.           


Arunachala Siva.

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