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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 09:12:38 AM »
20.

Verse 20:


அறிவானுந் தானே; அறிவிப்பான் தானே
அறிவாய் அறிகின்றான் தானே - அறிகின்ற
மெய்ப்பொருளுந் தானே விரிசுடர் பார் ஆகாயம்
அப்பொருளுந் தானே அவன். (20)

Lord is knower all; Revealer- all;
Knowledge-All; knowing-All-
And to know thus, He is the True Ens supportive.
Radiant sun, Earth and all universe, He is solely.

Arunachala Siva.

12677
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 09:09:39 AM »
19.

Verse 19:



இன்று நமக்கெளிதே மாலுக்கும் நான்முகற்கும்
அன்றும் அளப்பரியன் ஆனானை - என்றும்ஒர்
மூவா மதியானை மூவே ழுலகங்கள்
ஆவானைக் காணும் அறிவு. (19)


He wears a never-ageing crescent moon ; He becomes the worlds
Three times seven ; as of yore. He was beyond the ken
Of Vishnu and Brahma?s comprehension ; yet for us,
He is easy of access even to this day.


Arunachala Siva.

12678
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 09:06:56 AM »
18.

Verse 18:


அரனென்கோ நான்முகன் என்கோ அரிய
பரனென்கோ பண்புணர மாட்டேன் - முரண் அழியத்
தானவனைப் பாதத் தனிவிரலாற் செற்றானை
யானவனை எம்மானை இன்று.  (18)   .


With His unique toe He quelled the might of the Asura ;
Shall I call Him Hara or the Four-faced
Or Hari the supreme one ? Alas, I canst not, this day,
Comprehend His (multifoliate) Godliness.



Arunachala Siva.
 

12679
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 09:04:07 AM »
17.

Verse 17:



காண்பார்க்குங் காணலாந் தன்மையனே கைதொழுது
காண்பார்க்குங் காணலாங் காதலாற் - காண்பார்க்குச்
சோதியாய்ச் சிந்தையுளே தோன்றுமே தொல்லுலகுக்
காதியாய் நின்ற அரன். (17)



Hara who is the Primal Cause of the hoary world, can be
Beheld by them that fold their hands in adoration
And by them that eye Him in love ; He manifests
As light in their mind who see Him with their inner eye.


Arunachala Siva.

12680
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 09:00:15 AM »
16.

Verse 16:



இனியோநாம் உய்ந்தோம் இறைவன் அருள்சேர்ந்தோம்
இனியோர் இடரில்லோம், நெஞ்சே - இனியோர்
வினைக்கடலை யாக்குவிக்கும் மீளாப் பிறவிக்
கனைக்கடலை நீந்தினோம் காண். (16)


See, we remain secure; are at lord?s feet holy; no woe
Hereafter; no hereafter, see; with His holy feet
As our firm, we shall cross the deed-sea-bred-
-sea-of-births, never freed from it hitherto, sure.

Arunachala Siva..


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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 08:57:25 AM »
15.

Verse 15:


நினைந்திருந்து வானவர்கள் நீள்மலராற் பாதம்
புனைந்தும் அடிபொருந்த மாட்டார் - நினைந்திருந்து
மின்செய்வான் செஞ்சடையாய் வேதியனே என்கின்றேற்
கென்செய்வான் கொல்லோ இனி.(15)


Even, the celestial beings, for to remain, shall deck His holy feet
With flowers choice, think on Him; far from His kazhal.
I, poised ever on His flashing locks, Vedic chanting
On and on, praise His glory. Would He grace me?

Arunachala Siva.

12682
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 08:54:15 AM »
14.

Verse:  14:



தானே தனிநெஞ்சந் தன்னையுயக் கொள்வான்,
தானே பெருஞ்சேமஞ் செய்யுமால் - தானேயோர்
பூணாகத் தாற்பொலிந்து, பொங்கழல்சேர் நஞ்சுமிழும்
நீணாகத் தானை நினைந்து. (14)

My heart is lonesome; self-beating subsistent;
It has for its fund of weal the intake of
Lord-thought on Lord?s unique kazhal-heat like
Venom-spitting viper vagrant.


My heart is lonesome; self-beating subsistent;
It has for its fund of weal the intake of
Lord-thought on Lord?s unique kazhal-heat like
Venom-spitting viper vagrant.

Arunachala Siva.


12683
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 08:50:35 AM »
13.



தகவுடையார் தாமுளரேல் தாரகலஞ் சாரப்
புகவிடுதல் பொல்லாது கண்டீர் - மிகவடர
ஊர்ந்திடுமா நாகம் ஒருநாள் மலைமகளைச்
சார்ந்திடுமே லே பாவந் தான். (13)


he serpent should not hiss on the mountain-daughter;
Yet not sizzle on His Right alone. Are they distal?
Is not garland-on-chest enough? Why a krait?
Would it not once course on Her? Who would this offence?

Arunachala Siva.


12684
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 08:48:15 AM »
12.



அதுவே பிரான்ஆமா றாட்கொள்ளு மாறும்
அதுவே யினியறிந்தோ மானால் - அதுவே
பனிக்கணங்கு கண்ணியார் ஒண்ணுதலின் மேலோர்
தனிக்கணங்கு வைத்தார் தகவு. (12)


Lord?s lordship is that hacceity; the same that takes
The Beings in stasis(whatever). Nor is this all
Of Him that wears the cassia wreath snow-knowing
That has an eye-on-forehead on all!

Arunachala Siva.

12685
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 24, 2015, 08:45:42 AM »
ARpudha Tiru Andati of Karaaikkal Ammaiyar:

continues...



11.

ஒன்றே நினைந்திருந்தேன் ஒன்றே துணிந்தொழிந்தேன்
ஒன்றேயென் உள்ளத்தின் உள்ளடைத்தேன் - ஒன்றேகாண்
கங்கையான் திங்கட் கதிர்முடியான் பொங்கொளிசேர்
அங்கையாற் காளாம் அது. (1)   



Ever I subsist on Numero Uno; never I swerve;
I treasure that one as gold cherished in bosom and joy;
That one with matted locks possessing Ganga, moon
And fires flamboyant one;

Arunachala Siva.
 

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On 9th Jan 1946, one Mr. P. Banerjee asked Bhagavan:

"What is the difference between Jivanmukti and Videhamukti?"

Bhagavan:  There is no difference.  For those who ask, it is said:  A Jnani with body is a Jivanmukta
and he attains Videhamuki when he drops off the body.  But this difference is only for the onlooker,
not for the Jnani.

[Ribhu Gita, English translation, The Song of Ribhu gives
a detailed chart as an appendix about these states, again
from the onlooker's point of view.]

Arunachala Siva.

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Once Bhagavan Ramana made a small four line Tamizh poem describing the Jnani's state.
"Since a Jnani does not have the body consciousness, his moving about and doing work,
is like the state of a drunkard, who when stone-drunk does not know whether his clothes are
there on his body or not."

Bhagavan Himself changed some words and meter and finally completed this poem.  A copy
was made out by Devaraja Mudaliar in his notebook.  Bhagavan Ramana further added
that there is no corresponding verse in Bhagavatam about this concept, but in Sita Rama Anjaneya Samvadam, a Telugu work, this state is given in great details while speaking about Jnani's state.
Balarama Reddiar who was in the Hall at that time said:  Sita Rama Anjaneya Samvadam is to the
Telugus what Kaivalyam is to the Tamizhians.  The book is full of advaita concepts.

(Source: Day by Day by Devaraja Mudaliar. 20.1.1946.
The actual Tamil verse is also available in the Volume 5
of Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace.)

Arunachala Siva.

12688
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: November 24, 2015, 06:40:03 AM »



Fear is due to the mind.  For the one who has controlled the mind, there is no fear.  If one like
Bhagavan Ramana could kill the mind, he becomes the boldest human being in the world. We are the
Third Eye of Siva, from where Skanda came out to kill the demons with whom
even Brahma, Vishnu and Indra feared.  Problem of liquidation?  Why we should fear that?
We are always with God.  It is God who runs the show!"

Saint Tiruvukkarasar sang:  What is there to fear about?
What things will erupt which can give fear to us?  We have
got the Panchaksharam. 

Arunachala Siva.

12689
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: November 23, 2015, 03:21:18 PM »



On 29th Jan 1946, Bhagavan Ramana was going through the new Telugu edition of Ramana Leela.
A visitor asked Him:

"I came here about a year ago.  And even since, I have been trying to follow Bhagavan's instructions.
I am not, however, succeeding very well.  I try to look at all women as mothers. But I don't succeed."  Bhagavan Ramana did not reply and the visitor continued: "While I am at home, it is all right. But
when I go out and see women I am not able to control my mind and am swept off my feet.
What should I do?"  He also added: "I want Atma sakshatkaram.  What should I do?
I pray for Bhagavan's blessings. 

After a pause, Bhagavan replied:  'You say you are all right when you are at home. Be at home,
at home in the mind. Don't allow it go outwards, but turn it inwards and keep it at home there.
Then all will be well and you will have Atma sakshatkaram.  The trouble is that we are the mind.
See if you are the mind."

The visitor said: "I am a grahasta. Still I want to practice brahmacharya even with my wife. But
I am not able to succeed.  What should I do?"  Bhagavan replied:  "That is because of the age long
vasanas.  The sankalpas are so powerful because they have existed so long. But they will go."

(Source: Day by Day. Devaraja Mudaliar.  29.1.1946)

Arunachala Siva.   

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: November 23, 2015, 03:17:13 PM »

The visitor who had asked about his difficulties in the previous evening [about lust etc.,] came to
Bhagavan Ramana to take leave of Him.  He said:  I have already mentioned about my difficulties."
Bhagavan said: "Yes, they will go gradually."

Visitor:  I want Bhagavan's Kripa Drishti [grace by gazing].

Bhagavan did not reply.  Only a few minutes before that Colombo Ramachandra's two small girls
had finished singing and almost the last song [composed by his father, an ardent devotee of
Bhagavan] contained the lines,

" He who remains at Annamalai as the gracious Guru,
who casts His glance on them, dissipates their sorrows
and directs them to salvation. "

[The visitor must have understood the meaning]

Source: Day by Day, 30.1.1946. Devaraja Mudaliar)

Arunachala Siva.

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