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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: October 29, 2015, 11:44:32 AM »
45.12.5:


ஆருடனே சேரும் அறிவென்ற அவ்வுரையைத்
தேரும் படிக்கருள்தான் சேருநாள் எந்நாளோ. 5


When is the day to be
That I receive the Grace to know
The meaning of the saying:
"Arudane serum aRivu"? [1]

FootNotes:

[1] Reference not clear.

Arunachala Siva.

12647
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: October 29, 2015, 11:42:22 AM »
45.12.4:


என்னுடைய தோழனுமாய் என்ற திருப்பாட்டின்
நன்னெறியைக் கண்டுரிமை நாஞ்செய்வ தெந்நாளோ. 4.

When is the day to be
That I own the holy kinship
Proclaimed in the song: "Ennudaiya thozha-numai"(1)

FootNotes:

[1] Sundarar Thevaram.

Arunachala Siva.

12648
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: October 29, 2015, 11:40:37 AM »
45.12.3:


தானென்னை முன்படைத்தான் என்ற தகவுரையை
நானென்னா உண்மைபெற்று நாமுணர்வ தெந்நாளோ. 3


When is the day to be
That I realize the Truth of Self-effacement
Contained in the song: "Than ennai mun padaitan" (1)

FootNotes:

[1] Sundarar Thevaram.

Arunachala Siva.

12649
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: October 29, 2015, 11:38:31 AM »
45.13.2:


அற்றவர்கட் கற்றசிவன் ஆமென்ற அத்துவித
முற்றுமொழி கண்டருளில் மூழ்குநாள் எந்நாளோ. 2.


When is the day to be
That I merge in Grace
Of the Advaita import
Of the song: "Artavarkat-karta Sivan Am" (1)

FootNotes:

[1] Arul Nandi: Irupa Irupathu.


Arunachala Siva.

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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: October 29, 2015, 11:29:38 AM »
45.13.1:



13. அறிஞர் உரை - The Words of Wise Persons:

இருநிலனாய்த் தீயாகி என்றதிருப் பாட்டின்
பெருநிலையைக் கண்டணைந்து பேச்சறுவ தெந்நாளோ. 1.



When is the day to be
That I realize the Holy State,
And assume Silentness
Of the song: "Iru Nilanai Theeyagi" (1)

FootNotes:

[1] Appar Thevaram.

Arunachala Siva.

12651
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 29, 2015, 11:19:13 AM »
Idankazhi Nayanar -

His day of liberation by reaching the feet of Lord Siva, falls today.  Aippasi, Krittika Star Day.

The blue long cloth of sea with its tidal folding, embracing the body of the girl of ground, was the
kingdom by name KO  Nadu. The capital of the kingdom that runs along with the pleasant chirping
of birds that roam around the cool ponds was the town Kodumpaloor. The king Idankazhiyar, the
renowned, other than to the Emperor on the earth chariot, who burnt down the three forts into heaps
of ash, would not bow down to anybody even in dreams. In reality with a great love that flows out day
and night, he offered to do whatever services required for the devotees of the river worn Lord.
The Saivic discipline along with the Vedic knowledge made his kingdom a peaceful and pleasant place
to live. For the Lord who was offered terrific poison by the celestial elements with salutations and
begging to rescue them, was offered the Agamic worships everyday in His enlightening abodes of the kingdom.


One devotee of the Lord who practiced the austerity of feeding the ash smeared Lord's devotees one day
could not get way to earn the material required for his holy service. Out of his high enthusiasm to serve
the devotees not realizing what he was doing went in the dark night to the governments warehouse and
tried to pick from the stack the required food material. The royal servants found him stealing from the
godown and took him arrested to the king. On the king's inquiry, the devotee replied that he did that only
to feed the slaves of the Bliss-showering Lord. Naynar, a marvelous devotee of Lord Siva, the king of
Konadu,  releasing the devotee felt he was his treasure. What is the use of a filled royal stack when a
devotee struggles for getting the food ! He, the king, who really knew the usage of the treasures,
announced that along with the piles of grains the slaves of God could take the heaps of treasures.
With the royal treasure building up in the peaceful living of the devotees, the citizens of the kingdom the
king gave away the materials to the needful. Ruling the state with the mercy and understanding of the people's problems the king who ruled in the discipline of the fragrance of the Sacred Ash resided
under the comfortable shade of the Supreme. Let understanding of the devotees problems and the splendid serving tendency that Idankazhi  Nayanar showed stay in the mind.

Arunachala Siva.

12652
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: October 29, 2015, 08:54:16 AM »
4. Koil (Chidambaram):



கோல மலர்நெடுங்கட் கொவ்வை
    வாய்க்கொடி யேரிடையீர்
பாலினை யின்னமுதைப் பர
    மாய பரஞ்சுடரைச்
சேலுக ளும்வயல்சூழ் தில்லை
    மாநகர்ச் சிற்றம்பலத்
தேலுடை எம்மிறையை
    என்றுகொல் காண்பதுவே.(1) 

O, maids-in-waiting with liana like waists, kovvai-red lips, large round flower-like eyes!
He is lactic sweet; He is the granter of new life, the ambrosia! He is lumen Supreme par excellence
He is in Thillai-polis broad, girt by fields full of carps diving. There in that spatium of Conscious
Is He to grace. But when would I see my Lord Siva with my physical eyes, in ocular bliss?

Arunachala Siva.

12653
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: October 29, 2015, 08:49:02 AM »
3. Koil (Chidambaram):


அல்லாய்ப் பகலாய் அருவாய் உருவாய்
    ஆரா அமுதமாய்க்
கல்லால் நிழலாய் கயிலை மலையாய்
    காண அருள் என்று
பல்லா யிரம்பேர் பதஞ்ச லிகள்
    பரவ வெளிப்பட்டுச்
செல்வாய் மதிலின் றில்லைக் கருளித்
    தேவன் ஆடுமே. (1)


O! Lord of the Kailash Hill! You are the sum of antinomies:
Day and Night, Formless and Form, ambrosia that never satiates, light of Kal Aal* shades and all.
Sage Patanjali appealed to you: `May you Grace us to see your holy mien`.
In front of the assembled greats, you deigned to manifest.
Before the servitors of Thillai, famed for its topless
Towers kissing clouds, in your performing Dance!

Arunachala Siva.


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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: October 29, 2015, 08:44:38 AM »
2. Koil (Chidambaram)



பவளமால் வரையைப் பனிபடர்ந் தனையதோர்
    படரொளி தருதிரு நீறும்
குவளை மாமலர்க் கண்ணியும் கொன்றையும்
    துன்றுபொற் குழற்றிருச் சடையுந்
திவள மாளிகை சூழ்தரு தில்லையுட்
    டிருநடம் புரிகின்ற
தவள வண்ணனை நினைதொறும் என்மனம்
    தழல்மெழு கொக்கின்றதே. (1) 

As coral Hill is snow clad, looks He, with Holy Ash of argent sheen.
His locks are matted studded with large nenuphar, and cassia blooms, laced and loose; curly
and auric, He performs the holy Dance in Thillai City, with mansions aglow.
As one thinks of the canescent hues on Him Siva, my heart, as wax melts when close to a flame.


Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: October 29, 2015, 08:23:47 AM »
9th Tirumurai:

7.  Tiru vaali Amudhanar:


Tiru Isaippaa:


1.  Koil (Chidambaram):

மையல் மாதொரு கூறன் மால்விடை
    யேறி மான்மறி யேந்தி யதடங்
கையன் கார்புரை யுங்கறைக்
    கண்டன் கனன் மழுவான்
ஐயன் ஆரழல் ஆடு வான்அணி
    நீர்வயல் தில்லை யம்பலத்தான்
செய்யபாதம் வந்தென் சிந்தை
    யுள் ளிடங் கொண் டனவே. (1)


He is the abider in auric spatium of Thillai, girt by water-rich green fields;
He is the Half of Parvati doting on His mien extreme;
He rides the Taurus-guised fair Tirumal;
He is armed with a deer-calf, in a stretch;
His neck is dark scud-hued venom blue;
He carries Fire and `mazhu`, nice  flames;
He is the Lord whose ruddy feet reside in my heart,
His home.


Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: October 29, 2015, 08:19:05 AM »
9th Tirumurai:


6. VeNattadigal:

Tiru Isaippaa:

Koil (Chidambaram):


துச்சான செய்திடினும் பொறுப்பரன்றே
    ஆள் உகப்பார்
கைச்சாலும் சிறுகதலி இலைவேம்புங்
    கறிகொள்வார்
எச்சார்வும் இல்லாமை நீ அறிந்தும்
    எனதுபணி
நச்சாய்காண் திருத்தில்லை நடம்பயிலும்
    நம்பானே. (1)



O, My Lord in abidance at Holy Thillai, kind to their vassals, the rulers brook
their baser deeds even.
Though bitter, unsweet are raw bananas and neem buds, cooks use them in cooking.
For me,  other than you, there is grasp or hold none.
Though you know of my given-up-ness,
I know not why you resent my service.

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: October 29, 2015, 08:13:52 AM »
Tirumurai 9:


Kandarathiyar:

Tiru Isaippaa:

1.  Koil  (Chidambaram):


மின்னார் உருவம் மேல்வி ளங்க
    வெண்கொடி மாளிகைசூழப்
பொன்னார் குன்றம் ஒன்று வந்து
    நின்றது போலும்என்னாத்
தென்னா என்று வண்டு பாடும்
    தென்றில்லை யம்பலத்துள்
என்னா ரமுதை எங்கள் கோவை
    என்றுகொல் எய்துவதே. (1) 

In the Holy site of Thillai fair, Maidens flash on mansion terrace, and white flags festoon around;
a mount beaten of gold, it beseems, has come to stay there bees drone,
The tune of `Tennaa` there in the auric Hall, abides the dear ambrosial Lord ours to grace.
When would I reach Him close?


Arunachala Siva.

12658
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 29, 2015, 07:50:23 AM »



Kavyakanta Ganapati Sastri was so named by his parents, since he was born after intense prayers to Ganapati.  His father had a vision of Ganapati as a child, moving in all fours, in front of Siva's image.  Kavyakanta Ganapati Sastri was elder to Bhagavan Ramana by about 2 or 3 years. Ganapati took pride
that he was Ganapati and Bhagavan Ramana was his younger brother, Skanda. He says about this in Sri Ramana Gita.

Sri M. Sivaprakasam Pillai, the questioner of Who am I? was also a great Ganapati devotee.  He was doing pujas to Ganapati in the Hill.  Someone guided him to go to the living Siva, Bhagavan Ramana, instead
of praying to Ganapati, for answering his burning questions about marriage, spiritual life etc.,

Several Ganapati devotees who meditated before Bhagavan Ramana had seen Him as Ganapati and
Skanda of Pazhani.

Sarvadikari, Swami Niranjananda's first son was named Ganesan. This gentleman, when he was hardly
four years old, had climbed to Bhagavan's sofa and sat with Bhagavan Ramana!  Bhagavan
Ramana touched him and blessed him!

Seshadri Swamigal who was also elder to Bhagavan Ramana, treated Him, as his younger brother.  In the early years, Bhagavan Ramana was called Chinna Seshadri, the younger Seshadri, by the people
of Tiruvannamalai.  In Seshadri Swamigal's Asramam, there is a Vinayaka stone image, under the peepul tree, as you enter the Ashram.  I think he is called Navasakti Vinayaka. 

Arunachala Siva.     

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During Bhagavan Ramana's post- Nirvana years, Muruganar continued to stay in Tiruvannamalai.  He conducted discourses on Sri Arunachala Stuti Panchakam and Sad Darsanam and Upadesa Saram.
One of the fortunate students was T.R. Kanakamma.  She grasped the message of Bhagavan Ramana,
through the words of Muruganar.  Later, when the Asramam requested T.R. Kanakamma to write
a simple commentary in Tamizh for Bhagavan's complete works, she reluctantly agreed but completed her task, mainly on the basis of Muruganar's discourses.  This two volume book in Tamizh is a splendid work
giving the simple meaning and message of Bhagavan Ramana's works, including the difficult Sad
Darsanam.

Muruganar kept himself in silent meditation, during his last two or three years.  Many later year devotees came to him and requested him to speak about his years with Bhagavan Ramana.  He invariably did not answer.  What is there to say?  How to explain the non-dual experience to someone else?  He
kept his experience, without diluting it in spoken words.

Once someone asked him: "What is your Sadhana for this?" Muruganar kept quiet for some time.  Then he explained: "Sadhana? What Sadhana?  Where was the time for all that? The moment I saw Him, my ego
was annihilated.  Then where is separateness for doing this Sadhana and that Sadhana?"
He resumed his silence.

Arunachala Siva.

12660
Verse 118 of Ozhivil Odukkam:

The Self now awakens the Jiva from darkness of absolute nescience, (unites it with the mind and senses),
and (finally) abolishes the objective delusion of waking, and sleep, gradually consuming the ego consciousness as the flame consumes the wick of a lamp.  Therefore the only recourse is to give oneself up as a prey to the Self,
the one who devours one's ego consciousness.  The very act of thinking about it will drive it away from you.
(118).

In Saiva Siddhanta the soul is pictured as being initially sunk in a state of total nescience.  It is only Sivam
that, bringing in contact with the thirty six tattvas, causing it to experience the three malams, and finally
eradicating those defilement through the power of its grace, can lead to the state of oneness with itself. Once
it becomes united with the tattvas, the Jiva alienates between Sakalam (waking, dreaming, in which a manifold objective world appears, in gross and subtle form respectively, and Kevalam (deep sleep), which
although a state of non differentiation in which no world appears, is not the state of absolute nesceince,
referred to previously.               

Since it is impossible for the mind to seek the Self, it can only present itself in a condition of submission,
where it can easily be subsumed in the Self.  It therefore must offer itself up a prey, as it were, to be
devoured by the Self.

contd.,

Arunachala  Siva.

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