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General Discussion / Bhagavan is everywhere.
« on: December 28, 2015, 11:41:50 AM »
(This is the editorial of Mountain Path, Oct-Dec.2015:)


The most wonderful consequence that comes from being aware of Bhagavan's presence is the realization
that He is accessible everywhere.  As we go through life like a trapeze artists at the whim of fate
it is reassuring to know that the safety net is always there to catch us if we fall. How else one can
explain the unmistakable experience of Bhagavan's Grace, regardless of wherever we may be in the
world?  Such incidents are so common, be it in the waking state or the dream world, that it no longer
surprises us but confirms His omnipresence.  The implication is that there are no barriers in time and
space to what we call the presence of Bhagvavan. That presence is ever available like the very air we

There is an interesting discussion about Bhagavan's pervasiveness which gives us some idea of how
may boost the frequency of these surprising epiphanies:


Arunachala Siva.         

General Discussion / Re: Bhagavan, Now and to Come
« on: December 28, 2015, 11:26:25 AM »
Our existence is full of second thoughts, third thoughts ad infinitum.  There is no such thing as mentally
standing still.  Most of our ideas and thoughts have only transient value. Bhagavan gave us some powerful
thoughts that went straight to the heart of our predicament.  These insights are like bija mantras.  They
stick in our mind and evolve.  Our task is to allow them to alter and purify our thought patterns. To take
us beyond habit, assumptions and ignorance.

When God promised a supplicant that he would win the lottery, the man was grateful and happy, until
the numbers were drawn and he had not won.  The man complained to God who answered that the
man had not even bought a lottery ticket.  In order to win one must at least take the trouble to buy
a ticket.  For us to merge with Bhagavan we must take the first crucial step. As Bhagavan has said,
once that is done, he can take those nine steps towards us.  The first single step calls for dedication,
tears, toil, and songs of love.  The rest is out of our hands.


Arunachala Siva.     

General topics / Re: The Self as a Gooseberry in the Palm of the Hand.
« on: December 28, 2015, 11:16:21 AM »
The fourth disciple, named Giri, joined the Acharya at Sringeri.  He was so devoted to his Guru that
he would anticipate in advance whatever the Acharya needed.  He found immense satisfaction in
serving the Acharya.  One day, before beginning his discourse, the Acharya noticed that Giri was
missing and waited for his arrival.  The other disciples did not like the Acharya waiting for Giri whom
they consider their intellectual inferior.  The Acharya wanted to quell the pride of these disciples.
When Giri returned, the Acharya bestowed instant knowledge and spiritual powers on him.  Giri
thereupon composed a profound hymn in the meter called Totaka, distilling the essence of Vedanta.
He thus came to be known as Totakacharya. It is believed that these four principal disciples -
Padmapada, Suresvara, Hastamalaka and Totaka symbolized the four Vedas or the four eternal
values dharma, artha, kama, and moksha.


Arunachala Siva.   

General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 28, 2015, 11:07:46 AM »
Accepting that Sat and Chit are identical, how can we arrive at the conclusion that the entity so indicated
is also bliss?

If Sat is accepted as non dual, its blissful nature is also included in it.  Ananda is always full.  In what is
small, there is no fullness.  Fullness is understandable only in non dual Sat.  In duality there can be
no fullness.


Arunachala Siva. 

General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 28, 2015, 11:04:52 AM »
The non duality of the Atman has been established by you on the authority of Vedic passages.
Can you show that this can be established by reasoning also?

The following is the answer according to reasoning.  Is Sat self revealing? Or is it being revealed
by the light of any other thing?  If it is self revealing, Sat will itself be Chit or Consciousness.
If on other hand, it is said that Sat is revealed by the light of something else, that other shining
substance will be synonymous with Sat.  If it is said it is a 'different aspect'  of Sat, then that aspect
will be a non existent fiction like the horns of a hare. For there is no difference between Sat and
this falsely assumed 'aspect'.  Being non existent, it cannot reveal Sat.  If you say that this 'aspect'
is entirely different from Sat, you have to doubt whether this 'aspect', being different from Sat,
can reveal itself or not, or requires the help of another enlightening factor.

If you answer that it reveals itself, then that supposed 'aspect'  must be the same as Chit or Consciousness
itself and not different from it.  If the second alternative (i.e. this 'aspect' is different) is preferred,
the earlier doubt will again remain.  So by introducing a different factor from Sat to reveal Sat, numerous
logical fallacies will result.  There are Atmasraya-dosha, Anyonyasraya-dosha, Chakrapatti-dosha,
and Anavastha-dosha.  So we have to conclude that Sat is self revealing.  What is self revealing
is identical with Sat.  They are not different. So Sat is Chit and Chit is Sat.  The Vedas do not mention
any existence other than Sat.


Arunachala Siva.               

General Discussion / Re: Bhagavan's pendant
« on: December 28, 2015, 10:50:39 AM »
Dear deep sleep,

I am not sure. However you can check up with the Asramam.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:40:35 AM »

வழக்கென்று நீர்மொழிந்தால்
   மற்றதுதான் வலிப்பட்டுக்
குழக்கன்றை இழந்தலறுங்
   கோவுறுநோய் மருந்தாமோ
இழக்கின்றேன் மைந்தனைஎன்
    றெல்லீருஞ் சொல்லியஇச்
சழக்கின்று நானியைந்தால்
   தருமந்தான் சலியாதோ.

"If you suggest that the remedy lies in dong that
Which is by the Brahmins ordained, will that be
A cure for the agony of the cow that bellows aloud,
Having lost its tender calf by murder vile.
If I lend my ears to you all who are out
To save my son from my punishing him with death,
Will not Dharma itself shudder and quake"   

Arunachala Siva.


General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:38:25 AM »

மந்திரிகள் அதுகண்டு
   மன்னவனை அடிவணங்கிச்
சிந்தைதளர்ந் தருளுவது
   மற்றிதற்குத் தீர்வன்றால்
கொந்தலர்த்தார் மைந்தனைமுன்
   கோவதைசெய் தார்க்குமறை
அந்தணர்கள் விதித்தமுறை
   வழிநிறுத்தல் அறமென்றார்.

Beholding him thus, the ministers
Bowed at his feet and said:
"Wilting of mind is no cure for this;
You may be pleased to do that to your son, as is ordained
Of yore, by the Brahmins for the act of cow-slaughter."

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:36:11 AM »

மன்னுயிர் புரந்து வையம்
   பொதுக்கடிந் தறத்தில் நீடும்
என்னெறி நன்றா லென்னும்
   என்செய்தால் தீரு மென்னுந்
தன்னிளங் கன்று காணாத்
   தாய்முகங் கண்டு சோரும்
அந்நிலை யரச னுற்ற
   துயரமோர் அளவிற் றன்றால்.

"Long have I ruled the world protecting its lives,
Poised in piety; oh noble is my present reign!?
Thus lamenting, he said! "How can this be expiated."
Looking at the cow that had lost its calf,
He would again languish; limitless was his sorrow.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:34:06 AM »

அவ்வுரை கேட்ட வேந்தன்
    ஆவுறு துயர மெய்தி
வெவ்விடந் தலைக்கொண் டாற்போல்
    வேதனை யகத்து மிக்கிங்கு
இவ்வினை விளைந்த வாறென்
   றிடருறு மிரங்கு மேங்குஞ்
செவ்விதென் செங்கோ லென்னுந்
   தெருமருந் தெளியுந் தேறான்.

As the king heard this, his grief equaled the very cow?s;
He felt as though some cruel venom coursed in him
And smote his skull; he suffered exceedingly;
He was pained as to how it could so happen cruelly
; He inculpated himself of misrule;
He grew bewildered, and though he recovered a little
He felt utterly undone.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:32:01 AM »

வளவநின் புதல்வன் ஆங்கோர்
    மணிநெடுந் தேர்மே லேறி
அளவில்தேர்த் தானை சூழ
   அரசுலாந் தெருவிற் போங்கால்
இளையஆன் கன்று தேர்க்கால்
   இடைப்புகுந் திறந்த தாகத்
தளர்வுறும் இத்தாய் வந்து
   விளைத்ததித் தன்மை என்றான்.

"Chozha great! As your son mounted the huge gem-inlaid car
And fared forth surrounded by numberless footmen
Through the royal street, the tender calf of this cow
Darted into its wheel and perished; the mother-cow
Sore languishing, hath done this deed."   

Arunachala Siva.

Verse 11:

Tiru Embavai:

மொய்யார் தடம்பொய்கை புக்கு முகேரென்னக்
    கையாற் குடைந்து குடைந்துன் கழல்பாடி
ஐயா வழியடியோம் வாழ்ந்தோங்காண் ஆரழல்போற்
    செய்யாவெண் ணீறாடீ செல்வா சிறுமருங்குல்
மையார் தடங்கண் மடந்தை மணவாளா
    ஐயாநீ ஆட்கொண் டருளும் விளையாட்டின்
உய்வார்கள் உய்யும் வகையெல்லாம் உய்ந்தொழிந்தோம்
    எய்யாமற் காப்பாய் எமையேலோ ரெம்பாவாய்.

O One whose hue is ruddy like the fiercely burning fire !
O One fully bedaubed with the white Holy Ash !
O opulent One !
O Consort of Her whose broad eyes are Touched with khol and whose waist is willowy !
O Sire,
the wide pool swarmed over by chafers,
We enter dinsomely,
and with arms outstretched,
We plunge and plunge,
hailing Your divine feet.
Thus do we,
Your traditional servitors thrive.
O Sire,
by Your divine sport of enslaving,
they that are Freed from misery.
have come by salvific joy.
We too have gradually gained such redemptive grace.
save us from our wearying embodiment.
Empaavaai !

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:24:49 AM »

மன்னவ னதனைக் கேளா
   வருந்திய பசுவை நோக்கி
என்னிதற் குற்ற தென்பான்
   அமைச்சரை இகழ்ந்து நோக்க
முன்னுற நிகழ்ந்த எல்லாம்
   அறிந்துளான் முதிர்ந்த கேள்வித்
தொன்னெறி யமைச்சன் மன்னன்
   தாளிணை தொழுது சொல்வான்.

He heard them and eyed the grief-stricken cow;
He longed to know what had happened to it;
He with contempt, looked at his minister,
And he, a man of mature wisdom, who knew
All that happened, bowing spake thus:   

Arunachala Siva.


General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:21:40 AM »

ஆங்கது கேட்ட வேந்தன்
   அரியணை இழிந்து போந்து
பூங்கொடி வாயில் நண்ணக்
   காவல ரெதிரே போற்றி
ஈங்கிதோர் பசுவந் தெய்தி
   இறைவநின் கொற்ற வாயில்
தூங்கிய மணியைக் கோட்டால்
   துளக்கிய தென்று சொன்னார்.

He rose from the throne, and down came he,
-- The King --, to the threshold of the palace;
The ostiaries came to him and bowing said:
O Lord, a cow hath to your victorious threshold
Come and moved the dangling bell with its horns."

Arunachala Siva.   

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:19:47 AM »

பழிப்பறை முழக்கோ ஆர்க்கும்
   பாவத்தின் ஒலியோ வேந்தன்
வழித்திரு மைந்தன் ஆவி
   கொளவரும் மறலி ஊர்திக்
கழுத்தணி மணியின் ஆர்ப்போ
   என்னத்தன் கடைமுன் கேளாத்
தெழித்தெழும் ஓசை மன்னன்
    செவிப்புலம் புக்க போது.

Was it the drumming of Reproach?
Or the din of fettering Sin?
Or the tinkling of bells worn on the neck
Of the Buffalo of Yama who comes to snatch
The life of the only scion of the King?
Thus rang the bell -- hitherto untolled --,
On the ears of the sovereign, wordlessly.   

Arunachala Siva.

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