Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - Subramanian.R

Pages: 1 ... 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 [812] 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 ... 2976
12166
General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: November 15, 2015, 01:05:50 PM »
Then how do we feel that the Atman is inducing?

Just as the reflection of the redness of a hibiscus flower is projected on a crystal placed near it
and the crystal looks red.  In this sense impulsion of love and hatred is something projected or
superimposed on the Atman due to ignorance.  If love and hatred were in the very nature of the
Atman, no one would try to get rid of them.   The nature (Svabhava) of and the form (Swarupa)
of a thing are identical.  If the nature of a thing is somehow destroyed, it amounts to the destruction
of the thing itself. If you accept 'agency' for Atman, then the Vedic passages that deny attachment,
action, or inducement to action in the case of the Atman will become meaningless.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.




     

12167
General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: November 15, 2015, 12:56:48 PM »
When we say, for example, that 'I get a temple built or get a tank dug'.  etc.,  We have the feeling
that the Atman is doing or getting these done. Can we not therefore say on the evidence of this
experience that the Atman is inducer or propeller?

This is not correct. The Atman is changeless and has no feelings. Such an entity cannot be the
inducer of any action.

Contd.,

Arunachala Siva.   

12168
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: November 15, 2015, 12:12:50 PM »
Aiydikal Kadvaor Kon:  Siva's devotee among the 63 Saiva Saints:

The day of attaining Siva - Aippasi - Moola Star Day:


One city that was renowned throughout India for its intellectuals, institutions and ingenious
art work was Kanchipuram, the capital of the Pallavas. The king of the Pallava land who
conquered the excess of the Kali and the enemies was Aiydikal  Peruman, the king who ruled the
land with his upright royal stick of justice - the Justice of Lord Siva. With the wealth and fame, with
every life in the land sitting pride and peaceful, with the poles of enmities won over and the justice prevailing, with the great Saivam spreading its fragrance along with the knowledge of holy Vedas,
our Nayanar ruled the land.

The king felt the royal crown was a hurdle in serving the Lord and wanted to salute the Lord
singing His fame. He gave the royal throne to his son and set off to serve the Lord in the way
his will wanted to. He went to the abodes of Lord who has Moon as an ornament over His golden
matted hair and sang a Venpa  (one of the four major constructs of Tamizh poetry) each time,
serving his heart stealing Beauty. The king of the Pallava kingdom went to the King of Cosmic
dance's Chidambaram,  saluted, drank the Nectar performing dance there and offered It his
holy flower of fragrant Venpa. Staying there for some time in that holy place worshiping the God,
he continued his pilgrimage to many other innumerable abodes of the omnipresent Lord and did
his service singing the hymn on God. His salutations went on for a long time and he reached the
company of the Lovers of the Lord in the land of the Lord under His sacred feet. Let the great love
of the king of Kadavas, Aiydigal Kadavar Kon because of which he left the royal pleasures and
pride and came to sing the God's fame stay in the mind.



Arunachala Siva.

12169
Next, let us say that we had taken two accurate clocks, and placed one of them in the above spaceship
before it left us, and kept the other with ourselves for reference.  And suppose that we  now observe
the clock in the moving spaceship from our position, and measure by our clock, how much time it
takes to move forward by 1 hour.  Normally, we expect it to be 1 hour too, but our measurement
would actually show it much longer  -- 2 hours and 17 minutes. A person travelling in the vehicle will,
however, find nothing unusual, with his meter rod or his clock.  But will find a meter rod held by us
to be precisely that much shorter, and our clock that much slower.  These observations have nothing
to do with limitations of measurement, but are inherent in the very way our universe is structured.
Space and time are thus relative to an observer, and have no absolute basis.


The special theory'  has another interesting consequence.  Suppose the spaceship of our example
fires a small space probe directly in front at a speed of 0.6 billion kmph, as measured from it.
Now, let us say we measure the speed of that probe from our position on earth.  Common sense
tells us that we should find it to be the sum of the two speeds (0.9 and 0.6) i.e., 1.5 billion kmph.
But actual measurement would show it to be far less  -- only 0.974 billion kmph!!  Einstein's theory
in fact tells us that no matter what we do, we can never make an object move at a speed exceeding
1 billion kmph, which is the speed of light in vacuum.  These consequences are again not due to any
practical limitations on our part, but only because our universe is structured that way!!           

Einstein's 'general theory of relativity' goes a step further to say that space and time are not two
separate entities as we normally take them to be, but are components of a four dimensional
matrix, called 'spacetime'.  This theory explains gravitation as due to a 'curvature' of this spacetime
in the vicinity of objects.  We find the concept of spacetime itself not so easy to conceive; that of
a curvature in it beats our imagination.  Empirical reality of the macrocosm is thus entirely aline
to our common sense notions of the world.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.       

12170
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: November 15, 2015, 11:44:51 AM »
When I was a little girl:

Kitty Osborne:

continues...

These quite noisy happy times in the Hall were great fun.  My brother and sister and I would
show Bhagavan our toys and He would inspect them gravely, giving as much attention to a
doll which could open its eyes as He did to a question of deep philosophical meaning; but when
the story and chat time were over we knew at once.  Bhagavan would turn away and into Himself
and an immediate quiet descended in the Hall.  When Bhagavan was quiet like that 'no one' spoke.


We were not the only ones who loved to sit in the Hall to be in Bhagavan's company.  There were all
the animals as well, coming and going in between the people.  The dusty dogs came in and did namaskaram before Bhagavan's couch. They all did it but I can't remember ever thinking that was
unusual, which actually I suppose it was.  The monkeys rarely come inside, they mainly chattered
to Him through the window but the peacocks would come and dance for Him...  it was beautiful. The
squirrels would come the door and look around nervously, then make a dash for His lap to get some
puffed rice or peanuts. 

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.       



12171
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 09:05:38 AM »
10. Tiru NeeRu -  The Holy Ash:


Verse 1:


கங்காளன் பூசும் கவசத் திருநீற்றை
மங்காமற் பூசி மகிழ்வரே யாமாகில்
தங்கா வினைகளும் சாரும் சிவகதி
சிங்கார மான திருவடி சேர்வரே.  (1)

Chant ``Aum`` and unite in Param

Fools know not what thread and tuft are;
Thread is but Vedanta, and tuft is Jnana;
Brahmins true who live in accord thus,
Shall see Jiva in Siva uniting;
Chant sacred mantra ``Aum``
And lo! the Two merge forever in One.


Arunachala Siva.

 

12172
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 09:02:04 AM »
9. To whom the dress of tapasvins fits:


Verse 1:

தவமிக் கவரே தலையாய வேடர்
அவமிக் கவரே அதிகொலை வேடர்
அவமிக் கவர்வேடத் தாகலர் அவ் வேடம்
தவமிக் கவர்க்கன்றித் தாங்கஒண ணாதே. (1)



True robe befits only true Tapasvins

The true tapasvins are the truly robed;
The sinful are but murderous hunters;
These are not for holy robe entitled;
None but tapasvins true deserve robe true.

Arunachala Siva.

12173
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:59:19 AM »
8.  Ava Vetam -  False Sannyasa dress:


Verse 1:

ஆடம் பரங்கொண் டடிசிலுண் பான்பயன்
வேடங்கள் கொண்டு வெருட்டிடும் பேதைகாள்
ஆடியும் பாடி அழுதும் அரற்றியும்
தேடியும் காணீர் சிவனவன் தாள்களே. (1)


Men of false robes know not Siva

You fools! With false robes you deceive people
Your pretension but helps you gorge yourself fast with food;
Well may you sing and dance and weep and wail
And thus may Siva seek,
Yet never, never shall you glimpse His Feet.

Arunachala Siva.

12174
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:56:54 AM »
7.  Only When Siva wills, you will get Jnana:

Verse 1:


பிரானருள் உண்டெனில் உண்டுநற் செல்வம்
பிரானருள் உண்டெனில் உண்டுநன் ஞானம்
பிரானரு ளிற்பெருந் தன்மையும் உண்டு
பிரானரு ளிற்பெருந் தெய்வமு மாமே . (1)


Fruits of Lord`s Grace

If you have Lord`s Grace, you have all riches;
If you have Lord`s Grace, you have true Jnana;
If you have Lord`s Grace, you have greatness too;
If you have Lord`s Grace, you shall be the great God Himself.

Arunachala Siva.

12175
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:53:16 AM »
6.  Thava Dhooshanam:  When tapas is needed and when it is not:


Verse 1:

தவம்வேண்டும் ஞானந் தலைப்பட வேண்டில்
தவம்வேண்டா ஞான சமாதிகை கூடில்
தவம்வேண்டா அச்சக சன்மார்க்கத் தோர்க்குத்
தவம்வேண்டா மாற்றந் தனையறி யாரே. (1)


When Tapas is Needed

Tapas you need, if Jnana you aspire;
Tapas you need not, when Jnana Samadhi you attain;
Tapas you need not, when you are in Sahamarga of Yoga;
Tapas they seek not, who the Self to transform Know not.

Arunachala Siva.

12176
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:35:07 AM »
5.  Thavam -  Tapas:


Verse 1:

ஒடுங்கி நிலைபெற்ற உத்தமர் உள்ளம்
நடுங்குவ தில்லை நமனுமங் கில்லை
இடும்பையும் இல்லை இராப்பகல் இல்லை
படும்பயன் இல்லை பற்றுவிட் டோர்க்கே. (1)


Blessings of the Placid Mind

The heart of the holy trembles not in fear,
All passions stilled, it enjoys calm unruffled;
Neither is there death
Nor pain, nor night nor day,
Nor fruits of Karma to experience;
That truly is the state of the desire-renounced.

Arunachala Siva.

12177
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:32:13 AM »
4.  ThuRavu -  Renunciation:

Verse 1:


இறப்பும் பிறப்பும் இருமையும நீங்கித்
துறக்கும் தவங்கண்ட சோதிப் பிரானை
மறப்பில ராய்நித்தம் வாய்மொழி வார்கட்
கறப்பயன் காட்டும் அமரர் பிரானே. (1)

God is Reached by Renunciation:

Beyond birth and death,
Reached by renunciate tapas Is He
My Lord of resplendent glory!
Sing His praise! Incessant pray!
The Heaven`s Lord shall show you
The Dharma`s Land.


Arunachala Siva.


12178
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:28:56 AM »
3.  Jnathuru Jnana  Jneyam:



நீங்காச் சிவானந்த ஞேயத்தே நின்றிடப்
பாங்கான பாசம் படரா படரினும்
ஆங்கார நீங்கி அதனிலை நிற்கவே
நீங்கா அமுதம் நிலைபெற லாமே. (1)


Goal of Sivananda is Ambrosial Bliss

Do incessant seek the goal of Sivananda,
There the Primordial Pasa enmeshes you not;
When it ever envelops you,
You but throw your egoism out and stand firm;
Yours shall then be the ambrosial bliss eternal.


Arunachala Siva.

12179
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:26:36 AM »
2.  Tiru Adip PEru: The gift of getting the Holy Feet of Guru:

Verse 1:


இசைந்தெழும் அன்பில் எழுந்த படியே
பசைந்தெழு நீசரைப் பாசத்தின் ஏகச்
சிவந்த குருவந்து சென்னிகை வைக்க
உவந்த குருபதம் உள்ளத்து வந்தே. (1)



Guru Blesses With His Hand on My Head

Rise in loving praise of Lord
And having risen, in piety melt for Him;
Then the divine Guru comes
?He who had scorned Pasa`s fetters?
And lays his hand on your head,
And lo! in you wells up
The rapturous Grace of His Holy Feet.

Arunachala Siva.

12180
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:22:33 AM »
Tantra 6:

Siva Guru Darsanam  - Seeing the Siva Guru:


Verse 1:


பத்தி பணித்துப் பரவும் அடிநல்கிச்
சுத்த உரையால் துரிசறச் சோதித்துச்
சத்தும் அசத்தும் சதசத்தும் காட்டலால்
சித்தம் இறையே சிவகுரு வாமே. (1)


The Holy Guru is God Himself

He taught me the meekness of spirit,
Infused in me the light of devotion,
Granted me the Grace of His Feet;
And after interrogation holy, testing me entire,
Revealed to me the Real, the Unreal and Real-Unreal;
Of a certain is Siva-Guru Lord Himself.


Arunachala Siva.

Pages: 1 ... 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 [812] 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 ... 2976