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11791
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:46:33 AM »
Verse  17:


வெங்கண் விறற்சிலை வீரர்கள்
   வேறிரு கையிலும் நேர்பவர்
தங்கள் சிலைக்குலம் உந்தின
   தாவில் சரங்கள் நெருங்குவ
பொங்கு சினத்தெரி யிற்புகை
   போகு கொடிக்கள் வளைத்தெதிர்
செங்கண் விழிக்கனல் சிந்திய
   சீறு பொறிச்செல வொத்தன.


Bowmen against bowmen fought in a different part
Of the field where arrows met arrows;
Eyes of warriors were like pits of fire;
When they knit their brows, smoke issued
In steaming columns, the sped arrows
Were verily the sparks of fire.

Arunachala Siva.
.

11792
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:44:51 AM »
Verse  16:


கால்கழல் கட்டிய மள்ளர்கள்
   கைகளின் மெய்க ளடக்கிய
வாளொளி வட்ட முனைந்திட
   வந்திரு கைகளின் முந்தினர்
வேலொடு வேலெதிர் நீள்வன
   மேவிய பாதலம் விட்டுயர்
ஞாலமு றும்பணி வீரர்கள்
   நாநிமிர் கின்றன வொத்தன.



In the hands of warriors -- decked with heroic anklets,
Were shields screening their bodies, and swords;
From opposing sides came they and fought.
Spears encountered spears in that great battle.
It looked like the projection of tongues
Of Naga heroes issuing from their world.   

Arunachala Siva.

11793
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:42:42 AM »
Verse 15:


மேக வொழுங்குகள் முன்கொடு
   மின்னிரை தம்மிடை யேகொடு
மாக மருங்கினும் மண்ணினும்
   வல்லுரு மேறெதிர் செல்வன
வாக நெடும்பல கைக்குல
   மாள்வினை வாளுடை யாடவர்
காக மிடைந்த களத்திரு
   கைகளின் வந்து கலந்தனர்.



Like rows of clouds winged with lightning,
Like thunder against thunder on earth and sky,
The warriors holding shields and wielding swords
In opposing ranks charged in that battle-field
Where crows and ravens gathered galore.   

Arunachala Siva.

11794
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:39:55 AM »
Verse 14:


என்றுபகைத் தோனுரைப்ப
   ஏனாதி நாதரது
நன்றுனக்கு வேண்டுமேல்
   நண்ணுவன்என் றுள்மகிழ்ந்து
சென்றவன்முன் சொன்ன
    செருக்களத்துப் போர்குறிப்பக்
கன்றி யிருபடையும்
   கைவகுத்து நேர்மலைவார்.



When the foe spake thus, Yenati Nathar said:
"If that be your wish, I'll meet you there."
He consented inwardly rejoicing, and fared forth
To that field and stood triggered for the battle.
The angry armies began their fight.

Arunachala Siva.

11795
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:37:40 AM »
Verse 13:



வந்தழைத்த மாற்றான்
   வயப்புலிப்போத் தன்னார்முன்
நந்தமது வாட்பயிற்று
   நற்றாயங் கொள்ளுங்கால்
இந்தவெளி மேற்கை
   வகுத்திருவேம் பொருபடையும்
சந்தித் தமர்விளைத்தால்
   சாயாதார் கொள்வதென.


The foe who called him to battle, stood facing
Him -- the triumphant tiger --, and said:
"The gains of our art of fencing we practice
As of right, should go to him who is the victor;
With our armies we'll fight in the open field."   

Arunachala Siva.

11796
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:35:36 AM »
Verse  12:


புறப்பட்ட போதின்கண்
   போர்த்தொழில்வாள் கற்கும்
விறற்பெருஞ்சீர்க் காளையர்கள்
   வேறிடத்தி னின்றார்
மறப்படைவாள் சுற்றத்தார்
   கேட்டோடி வந்து
செறற்கரும்போர் வீரர்க்
   கிருமருங்குஞ் சேர்ந்தார்கள்.

As he moved out, coming to know of the impending battle,
Many lads trained by him in skilled warfare,
Innumerable warriors, also trained by him and engage
In other places, and his kith and kin equipped with
Many dreadful weapons of war and swords
Rushed to the rare hero invincible,
And stood on either side of him in battle rank.   

Arunachala Siva.


11797
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:30:36 AM »
Verse  11:


ஆர்கொல் பொரவழைத்தார்
   என்றரியேற் றிற்கிளர்ந்து
சேர்வு பெறக்கச்சில்
   செறிந்தவுடை மேல்வீக்கி
வார்கழலுங் கட்டி
   வடிவாள் பலகைகொடு
போர்முனையில் ஏனாதி
   நாதர் புறப்பட்டார்.



"Who is he that challenges me?" he asked:
Up he rose like a lion, girded his loins tight,
Decked his foot with heroic anklet,
Took out his sword of steel and shield,
And came out of the house ready for the battle.   

Arunachala Siva.

11798
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: February 15, 2016, 05:56:34 AM »



Bhagavan Ramana's unseen Presence works wonders even today.  Only faith and conviction are
required.  He can come in any form or he can send any form of living being to help us.  We
do not know His ways, how He operates etc.,  We are wondering whether a Brahma Jnani after
Maha Nirvanam, a birth-less and deathless  state, could come down again to help devotees, in a
form.  Because there is no reincarnations for a Jnani.   In that respect, we should conclude that
His Presence works wonders.

I shall narrate one incident which happened during our first visit of the year 2008.  My wife and I
went in the car.  Usually, we start at 5.00 am, to avoid crowds on the road particularly up to Hosur,
in the Banglore-Hosur Road.  In Hosur, we halted near a very small hotel for coffee.  While I and
my driver went to take  coffee, my wife said, that she would stay in the car and being a small hotel,
one of the servers could bring her a cup of coffee to the car.  When we were away and when she was
holding the coffee cup and saucer on her hands, a boy of about 16 years, wearing a cotton half-trouser
suddenly came, opened the door from the driver's side and started operating the steering wheel. 
My wife became totally afraid and she was calling people.  The boy stopped his 'mischief' with the
steering wheel and checked the cassettes in the dash board.  Then he looked at my wife and said:
"Why are you looking at me?  Why are you looking at me?."...My wife picked up some courage and
offered coffee.  He said:  "Why all this for me?".....  He then left his seat and on the road he
disappeared.  When we came, and when general public came, he could not be found.  My wife was
nervous for sometime.

Around 9.45 AM., we reached the Asramam, took the key from Doctor Srinivasamurthy and then
rushed to the Samadhi Hall, after a quick look at the Hill and Mother Yogamba.  There, after seeing
Bhagavan Ramana's large size photograph taken at the age of 21 (when He wrote WHO AM I?),
my wife exclaimed:  "He only came. He only came.  The same penetrating eyes.  Long nails.
Instead of codpiece, a half-trouser.  Now I remember.  Now I remember....."   She had seen
Bhagavan Ramana's particular photo many times in the books at home.  But she did not recollect
that the boy in Hosur.  She suddenly remembered when she saw the large size photograph in the
Samadhi Hall.       

What is the explanation?  My wife says that there could have been accident to our car in the journey.  Bhagavan Ramana came and set right the car!   I think she should be correct.  How else to explain
this?

Karunaiayal ennnai aandu konda nee, enakku un
Katchi thanthu arulinai enral.....   (Sri Arunachala Padigam Verse 10)

Arunachala Siva.

11799
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: February 15, 2016, 05:50:34 AM »


Suri Nagamma's life is one great wonder.  Even for writing Letters from Sri Ramanasramam, she
had some opposition.  Sarvadhikari did not want her to write anything, after some time.
Bhagavan Ramana kept as usual mum.  But later Sarvadhikari relented and today we have got
2 volumes of her letters which are simple (and not pedantic like those of Munagala and others)
but very revealing in regard to Bhagavan Ramana's teachings.


Arunachala Siva.

11800
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: February 15, 2016, 05:48:43 AM »


The Hill story is like this:  Seeing Bhagavan Ramana, (He was very young then) roaming all
around the Hill, the an cooly lady remarked:  "Fie, You be put in pyre.  summa sivanenu
irrukkapadatha?  "Will not you be still, as Siva, why are you moving
here and there?" 

This, Bhagavan Ramana said was the highest advice for Him.

Arunachala Siva.

11801
General Discussion / Re: Communication and Attention - Vidya Sridhar:
« on: February 14, 2016, 02:38:56 PM »
There is another proverb in Tamizh that says, 'Thottil pazhakkam sudukadu mattum', which says,
'What habits are formed in the cradle stay till the cremation ground.'  Can one expect the TV and computer
to give positive guidance and experiences that will stay with children throughout their lives?  Hence today's
generation has much at stake and it is important that it raises the children with positive attitudes and tendencies. Positive reactions and habits can be inculcated by paying full attention through the eye to eye contact. Children will grow up feeling secure, contended and peaceful when given the attention they need.

In the modern world, people have found no limit to their desire to acquire gadgets from the ever increasing
temptations that the world market puts forth.  Although there is an increase in the number of tools, appliances
and goods that have outwardly raised the standard of living, this has only caused physical health and mental
peace to deteriorate. Hence more and more people in this world suffer from depression, and anxiety
and have to take to medication.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.   
 
 

11802
For it is now an illumined activity.  Thus the ultimate aim is not to suppress thinking and sit in a prolonged
solitary trances.  It is not even to keep the mind free from thoughts but from their tyranny, to bring it to
understand the true significance of their characteristic manifestations as 'I' and the world, and to make the
man effortlessly ever conscious of his innermost essence into the fourth state of sage is never able to escape
from it again.  Whether awake or sleep, in repose or at labor, he is held abidingly by its enigmatic transcedence. The fourth state if fully attained is continuous throughout the other three.  It does not vanish with the oncoming of either bodily sleep or bodily wakefulness.  It is effortlessly retained in the sense that a man in the wakeful state retains his personal identity.

There is no desire here to underrate the great worth of even the mystic's achievement but it may be said
that whereas he attains a partially true insight the philosopher attains a perfectly true one. Nature wants the
mystic to rise from a merely emotional understanding to a calmly intelligent one which will never be
contradicted by its own lapse or recoil into a lower condition.  Both the imperceptibly changing thoughts
of thoughts of objects, that is, both things and imaginations, take their original birth and find their eventual
death in this essence of Mind, which itself persists formless, changeless and uncontradicted by anything else,
which has ever arisen or could ever arise.  In spite of the innumerable forms under which it manifests itself
Mind-essence never gives up in its own eternal identity.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.                   

11803
General topics / Re: Veda Parayanam - Eduardo Linder -
« on: February 14, 2016, 01:19:53 PM »
Teaching techniques differ according to the tradition of the teacher.  The following remarks will shed some
light on the process.  First, of course, the alphabet must be learned and here there is a difference between
South India and North India.  In the South grantha script is used, while in the North, it is the devanagari,
the usual Sanskrit alphabet.  The Brahmanas are usually learned first since these mantras are simpler and
easier for grasp.  The teacher recites one Vakya, (line) and the student repeats it twice.  For a normal student
10 to 30 lines may be given, but for an outstanding student up to 500 lines.  This will continue for 9 days,'
during which a student is expected to repeat the lesson at least 100 times per day.  Once the Samhitas
are taken up, they are taught 50 padas (words) at a time. This is called a panchashati.  There are 2195
panchshatis in the 7 kandas of the Samhita of the Krishna Yajur Veda.  There is no doubt that very strong
samskaras play an important part concerning the innate ability of the student.  At the level of ghanam
(the most advanced chant form), one can almost be assured that samskaras from a previous life are at
work, since this very exacting mode of chanting cannot be taken up by most students.

At Sri Ramanasramam the Krishna Yajur Veda was chanted twice a day when Bhagavan was in the body.
This tradition is carried on at His Samadhi to this day. Before the Veda Patasala was founded at Sri
Ramanasramam, pundits from town would come to chant in front of Bhagavan and all accounts of His life
mention that at the 5 p.m. session of the Veda Parayanam, Bhagavan would sit rock-like and the silence
and grace that were present would be apparent to even casual visitors.  He commented that listening to the
Vedas had a calming effect on His mind, which is a precondition for any meditation practice, as well as
Atma vichara,  His most well known method.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.                     

11804
General topics / Re: Lessons from the Brahma-Vishnu Tussle: S. Raman.
« on: February 14, 2016, 01:02:28 PM »
Vishnu persisted with his efforts, and at  some point he realized the futility of his work.  He was able
to see clearly that there was a greater power than  his.  He returned and surrendered as a loser ti
the Infinite.  Is not surrender what is expected of anyone who is able to see clearly the finiteness of
oneself.  What is the general experience of any person who is very wealthy, but is struck by a tragedy?
He not only learns that all his wealth cannot get him what he needs, much less happiness that he desires
so much.  He begins to see the futility of belongings and eventually develops detachment from things
that are not ultimately useful.

On the other hand, what was the experience of Brahma?  He saw a flower falling from above, his intellect
started working in a very logical way, and he coached the flower to be a false witness buttressed by a
convincing argument.  He returned with this witness and strove to get himself declared the winner.
How could it ever have happened to the consort of goddess of learning?  Obviously, there is a lesson here
for us.  If the pursuit of knowledge is not undertaken in the right spirit and is confined to ephemeral things,
there is always the danger of it becoming a double-edged sword. Intelligence can become perverted,
in Sanskrit 'yukti becoming kuyukti', and that marks the fall of a person.  Knowledge usually picked up
through worldly senses and things must progressively and ultimately graduate to that of knowing oneself.
If that does not happen, then there is always potential for trouble.  It will make a person argumentative and
cunning, ready to coax others into colluding in what is believed to be the only right way of behavior, but
actually is immoral.  This is what possibly has been illustrated by Brahma's experience.

contd.,
         
Arunachala Siva.   

11805
Verse  235:

What appears cannot be real.  The basis is the real thing, and the appearance  is only through ignorance.

Verse  236:

As in the mother of pearl,  silver appears; so in the Atman, appears everything.  Though it is ignorance,
the basis is the Atman.

Nature of Brahman:

Verse 237:

Therefore,  the Supreme Soul is alone real -- One without a second, pure consciousness, without
any blemish, quiet,  beginningless, endless, beyond all actions, always Blissfulness itself.

Verse  238:

Dispelling all the distinctions that are created by Maya, it ever exists, -- unchangeable,  without parts,
not to be measured, without form, without name, endless, self conscious, -- and manifest alone 

Verse 239:

Beyond these three - knower, known, and knowledge, where there is no change at all, one Consciousness,
exits the Supreme.  The sages alone know such Atman.

Verse  240:

That which cannot be avoided, better than all, beyond the conception of mind, and words, that which
cannot be defined, perfect --know that as thine own Self.   

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.       

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