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11431
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: November 02, 2015, 09:24:29 AM »
47.15:


ஆதியாம் வாழ்வாய் அகண்டிதமாய் நின்றபரஞ்
சோதிநீ என்னைத் தொழும்பனென்றால் ஆகாதோ. 15.



Will it not befit Thee
If Thou call me Thy slave?
Thou, who is the beginning of existence all,
Thou, Divine Light that fills cosmic Space!

Arunachala Siva.

11432
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: November 02, 2015, 09:22:39 AM »
47.14:

ஓயாவுள் ளன்பாய் உருகிவாய் விட்டரற்றிச்
சேயாகி எந்தைநின்னைச் சேரவைத்தால் ஆகாதோ. 14.


Will it not befit Thee
O, my Father, if Thou turn me into a babe
Of love intense, melting in heart,
And shrieking loud-mouthed,
And so make me reach Thee?

Arunachala Siva.



11433
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: November 02, 2015, 09:20:38 AM »
47.13:



பாசநிக ளங்களெல்லாம் பஞ்சாகச் செஞ்செவே
ஈசஎனை வாவென் றிரங்கினால் ஆகாதோ. 13.


Will it not befit Thee
If Thou, in compassion, say: "Come",
So the fetters of Pasa
Are shattered to smithereens?

Arunachala Siva.

11434
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: November 02, 2015, 09:11:34 AM »
47.12:

ஆசைச் சுழற்கடலில் ஆழாமல் ஐயாநின்
நேசப் புணைத்தாள் நிறுத்தினால் ஆகாதோ. 12.



Will it not befit Thee
If Thou station in readiness
Thine Rescue-Boat of Love,
Lest I, be not drowned, my God,
In the eddying waters of the Desire-Sea?

Arunachala Siva.

11435
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saint Thayumanavar
« on: November 02, 2015, 09:08:33 AM »
47.11:



ஆதிப் பிரானேஎன் அல்லல் இருளகலச்
சோதிப்ர காசமயந் தோற்றுவித்தால் ஆகாதோ. 11.


Will it not befit Thee
If Thou stand as Light Effulgent
Dispelling the darkness of my sorrow;
O my God, Thou the Beginning of all!

Arunachala Siva.

11436
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 02, 2015, 09:01:32 AM »
13.  Anugraham - Blessing all lives, with necessary air etc.,

எட்டுத் திசையும் எறிகின்ற காற்றொடு
வட்டத் திரையனல் மாநிலம் ஆகாயம்
ஒட்டி உயிர்நிலை என்னும்இக் காயப்பை
கட்டி அவிழ்ப்பன் கண்ணுதல் காணுமே. (1)


He is the Wind that Blows in Directions Eight
He is the wavy ocean that girdles the earth,
He is the fire,
earth and sky;
Know this:
He is the One that binds and unbinds
The body that holds life precious.

Arunachala Siva.





11437
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 02, 2015, 08:56:58 AM »
12.  Thirobhavam: Siva stays within the lives of all:


உள்ளத் தொருவனை உள்ளுறு சோதியை
உள்ளம்விட் டோரடி நீங்கா ஒருவனை
உள்ளமுந் தானும் உடனே இருக்கினும்
உள்ளம் அவனை உருவறி யாதே.



He is the One within;
He is the Light within;
He moves not a wee bit from within
He and your heart are thus together,
But the heart His Form knows not.


Arunachala Siva.

11438
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 02, 2015, 08:38:19 AM »
11.  Samharam:  Removing all lives:



அங்கிசெய் தீசன் அகலிடஞ் சுட்டதவ்
வங்கிசெய் தீசன் அலைகடற் சுட்டதவ்
வங்கிசெய் தீசன் அசுரரைச் சுட்டதவ்
வங்கிஅவ் வீசற்குக் கைஅம்பு தானே.


With fire the Lord burnt all Space
With fire the Lord burnt the Oceans,
With fire the Lord burnt the Asuras*
Fire, verily, is the Lord`s shaft on hand.

(* Asuras = demons)

Arunachala Siva.

11439
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 02, 2015, 08:34:38 AM »
10. Sthithi - Staying in all bodies and lives:


புகுந்துநின் றான்வெளி யாய்இரு ளாகிப்
புகுந்துநின் றான்புகழ் வாய்இகழ் வாகிப்
புகுந்துநின் றான்உட லாய்உயி ராகிப்
புகுந்துநின் றான்புந்தி மன்னிநின் றானே .(1)



As Light and Darkness He pervaded,
As Fame and Blemish He pervaded,
As Body and Life He pervaded,
As my constant thought He pervaded. (1)

Arunachala Siva.

11440
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 02, 2015, 08:29:04 AM »
9.  Sarva Srushti -  Creating everything:


ஆதியோ டந்தம் இலாத பராபரம்
போதம தாகப் புணரும் பராபரை
சோதி யதனிற் பரந்தோன்றத் தோன்றுமாம்
தீதில் பரைஅதன் பால்திகழ் நாதமே. (1)



Paraparam* that has neither Beginning nor End,
In Pure Consciousness consorted with Paraparai**
And in that Light Pure arose Param;
And from union of Param with Parai immaculate
Was Nada born.


(*Paraparam = The Great God;  **Paraparai - The Great Goddess.) 

Arunachala Siva.

11441
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 02, 2015, 08:25:02 AM »
8.  Adi Mudi  Thedal:  Searching for feet and the crown: 



பிரமனும் மாலும் பிரானேநான் என்னப்
பிரமன்மால் தங்கள்தம் பேதைமை யாலே
பரமன் அனலாய்ப் பரந்துமுன் நிற்க
அரனடி தேடி அரற்றிநின் றாரே. (1)

In ignorance gross,
Brahma and Mal
Each bragged as Lord Supreme;
Then as a pillar of Fire the Lord stood before them
And they search and scream
In vain His Feet to behold.

Arunachala Siva.

11442
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 02, 2015, 08:21:19 AM »
7. Elumbum Kapalamum:  The bones and the Skull:


எலும்புங் கபாலமும் ஏந்தி எழுந்த
வலம்பன் மணிமுடி வானவ ராதி
எலும்புங் கபாலமும் ஏந்தில னாகில்
எலும்புங் கபாலமும் இற்றுமண் ணாமே.



He is the Lord of all Celestial Beings,
Who wear bejewelled crowns of dazzling beauty;
But the Lord did bedeck Himself in Skull and Bones
How is it?
If He bears not skull and bones.
Dust unto dust will theirs be.


Arunachala Siva.

11443
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: November 02, 2015, 08:17:51 AM »
6. Chakra Peru: The Plight of Chakra:


மால்போ தகனென்னும் வண்மைக்கிங் காங்காரங்
கால்போதங் கையினோ டந்தரச் சக்கரம்
மேல்போக வெள்ளி மலைஅம ரர்பதி
பார்போக மேழும் படைத்துடை யானே .


Filled with arrogance as Guru Supreme
Mal vaunted his egoism about;
Then the Lord of the Silver Mountain made the discus fly away
And it orbited around the seven worlds.

Arunachala Siva.

11444
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: November 02, 2015, 06:42:51 AM »



Swami Natananda and also Sadhu Arunachala, Major Chadwick, do not give much importance to the
bright light that was seen by thousands in India, on the evening of Maha Nirvana of Bhagavan Ramana
by 8.47 PM on 14th April 1950.

Swami Natananada writes:

In accordance with the conclusion of Kaivalya Navaneetam, for the Jivanmukta, whose nature is
the undivided Perfect Being Consciousness, there is no rebirth.  At the time of final absorption his
life force, along with the inner organs and the senses, merge in Brahman like the water evaporated
by red hot iron.  It should therefore be clear that his life force does not seek another world or another
body.

When a Jnani loses his individuality, at that very moment he has also lost his body.  Just as a snake
does not undergo any transformation in its appearance by casting off its slough, so also the state of
realization of the Jivanmukta does not undergo any transformation by the loss of adjuncts.

The above statement of Bhagavan Ramana about liberation and the advatic doctrine acceptable to
Him, according to which birth and death are illusory, contradicts the views connecting the appearance
of the bright light and His Mahanirvana.

(When Bhagavan Ramana passed away in April 1950, a bright light meteor-like light was seen to move
across the sky in the direction of Arunachala.  Different devotees saw this phenomenon
in different ways.  Some who were in distant cities like Lucknow and Madras, also saw the light in the
sky at the exact moment when Bhagavan Ramana died.  Sadu Natananda has not made it
clear in this passage that there were those who took the appearance of this light to be a physical
manifestation of Bhagavan's final union with His father and Guru, Arunachala.  Natananda is saying
that since Bhagavan was already established in and as the formless immanent Self, there was nothing
apart from Him and that He could attain union with at the time of His departure.)

It is clear that the divine scenes that are said to have occurred at the time of the birth and death of
various mahapurushas -- Great Persons, born for the sake of establishing dharma, protecting the
virtuous and destroying the wicked -- cannot be taken as an indication of the union of the Jiva and
Brahman, in accordance with the advaitic doctrine.

Arunachala Siva.   

11445
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: November 02, 2015, 06:36:02 AM »


Happiness or Sukam is from the world.  Anandam or Bliss is from Atma Jnana and self realization.
The worldly pursuits and achievements thereof, would confer one happiness and this is achieved by
valor, book learning, great karmas etc.,  But this only ends up in misery and death.

Duryodhana and Ravana had great valor.  Ravana had additional qualification of vedic-music and book learning.  But they had  vainglorious death.  But Vidhura had Atma Jnana and he did not even take part
in the war.  Arjuna forgot the Jnana conferred by Krishna after the war and Atma Jnana Upadesa had
to be taught to him again later by Krishna.  (See Srimad Bhagavatam)

Sukam or Bliss comes only from Atma Jnana.  And that is why great Jnanis like Bhagavan Ramana and
Guhai Namasivaya in Tiruvannamalai lived a life of simplicity, without even enamored
by siddhic powers.

Arunachala Siva.   

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