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10696
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 02, 2015, 08:35:58 AM »
13.


ஏய்ந்த கயிறுதன் கண்டத்திற்
    பூட்டி எழிற்பனந்தாள்
சாய்ந்த சிவன்நிலைத் தானென்பர்
    காதலி தாலிகொடுத்
தாய்ந்தநற் குங்குலி யங்கொண்
    டனற்புகை காலனைமுன்
காய்ந்த அரற்கிட்ட தென்கட
    வூரிர் கலயனையே. (13)


Kunkiliyakkalaya Naayanar

Kalayan of Southern Katavur, ever
Offering lord the resinous Kunkilian smoke
Is of Andhanar clan straightened the mien of the Lord
In lovely Panandal but tugging it with a roper end
By his neck drawn; with want, acute, of provisions
For home, he sold his wife?s Thali*
to buy the resin of holy incense and served lord.

(* Mangala Sutram of married ladies.)

Arunachala Siva.

10697
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 02, 2015, 08:34:04 AM »
12.


நிலத்தில் திகழ்திருக் காளத்தி
    யார்திரு நெற்றியின்மேல்
நலத்தில் பொழிதரு கண்ணில்
    குருதிகண் டுள்நடுங்கி
வலத்திற் கடுங்கணை யால்தன்
    மலர்க்கண் ணிடந்தப்பினான்
குலத்திற் கிராதன்நங் கண்ணப்ப
    னாமென்று கூறுவரே. (12)


Kannappa Naayanaar

He, a hunter, seeing the Lord of holy Kaalatti
On earth, weeping blood from off His right eye
Turning trepid, gonged his and fixed it on
His to stop bleeding. For this act
He is hailed Kannappar, the one
Who offered his eye to the Lord Himself.

Arunachala Siva.

10698
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 02, 2015, 08:31:08 AM »
11.



பத்தனை யேனாதி நாதனைப்
    பார்நீ டெயினைதன்னுள்
அத்தனைத் தன்னோ டமர்மலைந்
    தான்நெற்றி நீறுகண்டு
கைத்தனி வாள்வீ டொழிந்தவன்
    கண்டிப்ப நின்றருளும்
நித்தனை யீழக் குலதீப
    னென்பரிந் நீள்நிலத்தே. (11)


Enaatinaayanaar

Enaati of Saanraar clan in Eyinanoor
Excelled in Siva  worship and love and Holy Ash.
Atisooran campaigned on him and wished to vanquish him,
He wore the holy ash to hoodwink Enaati,
For the holy  ash  on  forehead  sake, Enaati dropped
Down his sword. Sooran slew him then. But Lord gave darshan to Enaati.


Arunachala Siva.

10699
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: December 02, 2015, 07:10:00 AM »



Surrender is the way.  In the world every being is created and one becomes the food of others.
Even human beings who are vegetarians have to kill the plants to eat food.  A fly is eaten by a lizard,
a cow by tiger, a tiger killed by a man etc.,  This chain continues ever and for ever.  We can at best
help the suffering beings to the extent possible.  Suppose we save a deer from tiger, the tiger would
look at us and ask: Who are you to prevent my food?  We have no answer.
Surrender to God or Guru is the best way.  All things are done by one Parameswara Sakti.  Our job is
to stay away from thinking that I shall do this or do that.

Arunachala Siva. 

10700
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: December 02, 2015, 07:06:41 AM »
Keeping Still:

For most of us, the tendency is to do this or that.  Mind
always jumps out with the least provocation.  BEING STILL
is the most difficult job for most of us.

Arunachala Siva.

10701
Gradation in Spiritual Reality:

Science admits of gradation in reality. For example,  Newton's law of gravitation was once thought
to represent the reality concerning gravitation.  But, it was later found inadequate to explain certain
phenomena, and the general theory of relativity had to be resorted to take them also into account.
But Newton's law is not discarded, as it is found to suffice for many routine applications, and is by
far the simpler use.  It is considered as the 'lower' level of reality, and relativity theory as the 'higher'.

Spirituality, similarly, admits of different levels of reality. In regard to creation, for example, it
puts forward three stand points: srishti drishti, drishti-srishti and ajata vada.  Each succeeding level
is higher than the preceding one. The srishti drishti vada says that God created the world and the
individual, and administers them in accordance with certain laws.  The law of karma is an important
one among them.  It seems to offer a ready and plausible explanation for unexpected outcomes
in life.  But t leaves certain questions unanswered, such as how karma originated at the very beginning
of creation, and why in spite of being created by God, we are impelled to commit evil and suffer
thereby.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.           
     

10702
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: December 01, 2015, 04:08:05 PM »
The Best of Friends:

Bhagavan and Chadwick:

continues...

So it was that, within a few weeks of this conversation, Chadwick settled in the Asramam on a
more permanent basis.  In February 1936, he moved into little cottage which he was to occupy,
with only one interruption, until his death in 1962.  It was a very small dwelling for such a large
man to inhabit, and a very modest one for a relatively wealthy Englishman of independent means.
Indeed, by any worldly standards Chadwick's new home was not large, but in spiritual terms
Chadwick's cottage was the Taj Mahal. To live at the feet of Arunachala was already a rare blessing,
but to have your own personal dwelling within the confines of Sri Ramanasramam itself was beyond
all good fortune. This extraordinary privilege has only ever been extended to two or three others,
and Chadwick will always remain the only Westerner to have enjoyed it. From now on, Alan
Chadwick and Sri Ramana were almost next door neighbors,  separated from each other only
by the short walk along the edge of the Pali Tirtham tank. Having personally supervised the constriction
of Chadwick's cottage, the Maharshi further blessed his arrival by attending the consecration ceremony
in person.  Shortly afterwards, when Alan was temporarily away from the Asramam, Sri Ramana
gave further evidence of His solitude by noticing a leak in the guttering, and instructing Annamalai
Swami on how to repair it.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva..           

10703
General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:29:21 PM »
Is there any proof for all this?


Yes. There is.  The Sruti says its proof is ignorance. From the results you can infer their cause.
All feel  'I am ignorant.'

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.

10704
General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:26:26 PM »
The answer continues..

In this way, according to many Vedic passages, the subtle body is made of sixteen categories.
Antahkarana is treated as single body according to this theory.  Some other Srutis which hold
that these categories forming the subtle body are seventeen in number, consider Antahkarana
as consisting only of two aspects -- Manas and Buddhi, all others being included in these two.
There are still other Srutis which hold that the subtle body consists of nineteen aspects. According
to them, Manas, Buddhi, Chtta, and Ahankara are all to be counted separately.

The subtle body is identified this say.

Arunachala Siva.     

10705
General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:16:03 PM »
The answer continues...

We shall now consider Antahkarana or the inner organ:  Antahkarana is the composed of four
aspects:  Manas, Buddhi, Chitta, and Ahankara.

Manas:  Manas has got as its presiding deity Moon. Its seat is neck.  It works consists in creating
doubts through Sankalpa (pros) and Vikalpa (cons or opposite).

Buddhi:  Its presiding deity is Brahman.  Its seat is the face. Its function is to produce firm
determination.

Ahankara:  Its presiding deity is Rudra, and the seat, the heart.  Its function consists in generating
the sense of 'I' and 'mine', with regard to objects.

Chitta:  Its presiding deity is Vishnu who is Kshetrajna (Field Knower).  Its seat is the navel.
It generates faith..

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.

10706
General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:06:57 PM »
The answer continues...

There are also five subsidiary Pranas which are included in the five main Pranas, described above.
These five subsidiary Pranas, are:  Naga, Kuma, Krkara, Devadatta, and Dhananjaya. Of these,
Naga functions as the power of vomitting,  Kurma as the power of closing and opening the eyes
and as the power to open and close the lips,  Krkara as the power that causes hunger, Devadatta
as the power of yawning, and Dhananjaya as the power that fattens the body.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.       

10707
General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:00:46 PM »
The answer continues...

4. Payu or excretery organ like the anus.  The presiding deity of this organ is Mrtyu or Lord of death.
Prompted by this deity, the anus excretes faeces. But if you apply the test, you will find that even though
anus is present in sleep, it does not function. So anus is not the organ Payu.

5. Upastha or power of sexual enjoyment:  The presiding deity of it is Prajapati. Prompted by this deity,
the sexual organ functions. But even though the sexual organs of man and woman are present in sleep,
they do not function then.  So Upastha is not the real organ that goes by that name. Now shall take up
the subject of the five Pranas.

1.  Prana:  Its presiding deity is Visishta.  Presiding in the heart and prompted by it, the vital power
pushes the breath out.

2. Apana: Its presiding deity is Visvarasrashta.  Prmpted by this deity and residing in the anus,
it draws the breath in.

3. Vyana:  The presiding deity of it is Visvayoni.  Prompted by this deity, and residing inside and outside
the body, it gives strength to the body and its organs.

4.  Udana:  Its presiding deity is Aja, residing in the throat.  Prompted by this deity, it performs the
following functions: a) In deep  sleep it dissolves the sense organs in the causal state;  b) On waking
it restores the powers of organs to their respective centers and c)  At the time of death, it carries the
powers of all the organs to the realm beyond death.

5. Samana:  Its presiding deity is Jaya.  Its place of residence is about the navel.  prompted by this
presiding deity, Samana digests all the types of food that enter into the stomach.  It is the fire of
digestion that maintains and increases the strength of the body.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.         

10708
General Discussion / Re: Laghu Vasudeva Mananam:
« on: December 01, 2015, 11:41:17 AM »
The answer continues....

1. Vak or power of speech: The presiding deity of it is Agni.  Prompted by this deity, this power enables
us to speak with the help of teeth, lips, throat, etc.,  All these accessories are present even when
one sleeps.  But if we apply test,  we find one cannot speak in sleep. So these are not the organs
of speech.

2. Bahu or hand:  Indira is the presiding deity.  Prompted  by the deity, the hands are able to give,
take etc.,  But  when you apply test, you find that even though the hands are present in a sleeping
person, he cannot give or take with the hands. So you cannot say that the hand is the organ of that
does these works.

3. Pada  or leg: Its presiding deity is Upandera.  Prompted by this deity, the legs are able to walk,
run etc., But when you apply the test, you find that even though legs are present, a sleeping man
is not able to walk or run.  So you cannot say that the leg is the real organ of walking, etc.,

contd.,

Arunachala Siva. 

10709
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:14:24 AM »
10.


ஊர்மதில் மூன்றட்ட வுத்தமற்
    கென் றோருயர்தவத்தோன்
தார்மலர் கொய்யா வருபவன்
    தண்டின் மலர்பறித்த
ஊர்மலை மேற்கொள்ளும் பாக
    ருடல்துணி யாக்குமவன்
ஏர்மலி மாமதில் சூழ்கரு
    வூரில் எறிபத்தனே. (10)


ERipatha Nayanaar


In the Triple ported Karuvoor, at Aaninalai
Is enshrined the sublime. To adore Him,
Downing flower  sprays with a stick, a servitor
Of routine service, to temple was heading;
A hill  like tusker threw him and flower basket. Pat
ERipathar cut the tusker and the merchant in two.


Arunachala Siva.

10710
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:12:08 AM »
9.



தொழுதும் வணங்கியும் மாலயன்
    தேடருஞ் சோதிசென்றாங்
கெழுதுந் தமிழ்ப்பழ வாவணங்
    காட்டி யெனக்குன்குடி
முழுதும் அடிமைவந் தாட்செ
    யெனப்பெற்ற வன்முரல்தேன்
ஒழுகும் மலரின்நற் றாரெம்பி
    ரான்நம்பி யாரூரனே. (9)


Sundaramurthy Naayanaar

Lord shed as a column of flame, showed
A document in Tamizh writ reading
That you and your lineage must serve
Us being slaves ever and in fealty
Remain and stood there  upon in Aaroor*
Wearing honey  spilling garland great.

(*Tiruvarur)

Arunachala Siva.

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