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An interesting topic.

Whilst "Death of Mind does not mean Thoughtlessness" the sadhak is nevertheless required to strive towards mental stillness as this is the only means by which the ego may die.

    Be still and know that I AM God. So stillness is the aim of the seeker.
    All that is required to realise the True Self is to "Be Still" [Maharshi].

At ego death it is found that the Self is thought-free, yet mind may or may not continue to have thoughts as per its destiny.

    In the realised man the mind may be active or inactive, the Self alone remains for him [Maharshi].

Dear Nishta,
       :) Nice observation. There are two kinds of stillness in vedanta , technically. cit samadhi and citta samadhi. citta samadhi means stopping thoughts. cit samadhi means relaxing in awareness. Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi talks about cit samadhi where one resolves in awareness and therefore is stillness itself in true essence. Citta samadhi is usually by force ... I do not particularly recommend it. Cit samadhi is total relaxation in the Awareness - being here and now, present moment ... infact its not just living in the present moment... rather its being the presence ! You are the Presence is Self Knowledge. Being it is living it and so one is always 24 7 in the present moment : conscious, relaxed and ever fresh.



This is an attempt to reconstruct the thoughts that went into an old thread on upadesha saram in which many of the forum members have participated. In a fit of disappointment I am guilty of spoiling that thread by deleting my posts. while what I did cannot be undone, here I would make an attempt to correct some of the damage done. This effort of mine is especially dedicated to sri DRPVSSNRAJU who is no more with us.

I request all the forum members  to participate by presenting their views on the verses. Lets  not engage in debates and arguments here. Debates may be done in another thread. :) The first person who starts a verse should make it a point to give the sanskrit verse with translation. And please write the verse number on the top of your comment for clarity.


Dear Atmavichar,
             :) Very nice to communicate with you after a long time :)

yes Thich Nhat Hanh is really exceptional.
did you see his video on emptiness is not nothingness ? :)

General topics / Re: Can we consider pooja as a vasana?
« on: August 03, 2017, 12:43:30 PM »
Dear ksksat27,
          :) Let me add to that a few more thoughts.

1. so puja itself is the discovery [or inner reveling as Self] of purnatvam [completeness/fulfillment] taking support from some act.
2. the external activities may form vasanas, not puja itself, since if i revel as Self even for a moment that burns the vasanas away.
3. just the external actions, i would not call it puja, it would call it external rituals associated with puja. its not puja until i start reveling in Self ... ie, until i surrender.

Now, the entire philosophy is : "the ground on which i fall, i take support from the same ground to get up" ! this is the philosophy. so we get attached to physical body and hence we create a physical image of God to go beyond the physical image... it is the going beyond that is called puja, not the physical image. a physical image may create attachment , but if it creates attachment it means i am not doing puja there ... i am actually playing with the image! its only when i go beyond all forms taking help form the forms that i can call it puja.

similarly we can take support from anything ... pick any vasana, take support from it and go beyond ! This is the beauty ! work can be worship. usually work creates tension and worries, because i am attached to the result... by surrendering it to God or by bringing in knowledge ... as i learn to work being in the present moment ... that is worship ... because i am using that activity to go beyond !


General topics / Re: Can we consider pooja as a vasana?
« on: August 03, 2017, 10:42:47 AM »
Dear Ksksat27,
        :) Puja is defined as "purnaat jyayate iti puja", that which is born of inner fulfillment. the external actions are only aids to invoke that inner fulfillment.
any expression of that inner fulfillment is puja.

In other words, the external paraphernalia is only an aid to discovering inner fulfillment. if, instead of delving deeper, i get caught up in the paraphernalia, then that is a vasana -- but then we cannot call such an activity puja in the first place.

so the ritual or the external action is not real puja, and one may get attached to these things and even get into the habit of showing off ! but when such is the  case i would not call it puja -- its only puja when one uses those external actions as an aid to delve deeper and abide as Self.


Meet The Happiest Man :)

Mathieu Ricard is famously known as the happiest man. This is why:

Some interesting videos:

There are many more, worth searching on youtube. He is an inspiration too, just as Thich Nhat Hanh is.

These techniques of mindfulness, kindness, altruistic love, compassion really are the fundamentals ... once these are well learnt, we can easily assimilate self knowledge. in the end, its indeed true that we are not the mind and as vedantins we should be very clear not to associate calmness  of mind with our calmness  and agitations of mind with our agitations. but how do we actually see this ? mindfulness is a great aid and once this is mastered, self knowledge amazingly simple to live.


Thich Nhat Hahn Guided Meditation:

Thich Nhat Hanh is a wonderful teacher. His teachings on living in mindfulness and present moment are definitely among the best. The following is a guided meditation from him, yet again its easy and very suitable for regular practice:


General topics / Re: Misc Ideas on Meditation
« on: August 02, 2017, 12:02:36 PM »
The Most Elementary Meditation Technique

So here is the most elementary meditation technique which everyone should definitely try:
its guided , so very easy to focus and if one does this regularly it changes the brain structure in very favorable ways. :) I make it a point to share this with every friend of mine, since its so easy to do and the benefits are really enormous. These simple techniques can be life transforming really.

Jon Kabat-Zinn of MIT medical  school has developed an entire project called MBSR , that revolves around using mindfulness for calming the mind and reducing stress. Here is an online program based on this:

There is elaborate research done on the benefits of mindfulness -- the physical benefits are only tip of an iceberg, the real benefit is that these methods help us gather the mind and allow us to assimilate the vedantic teaching.

A note for Vedantins: 
Mindfulness = being Awareness = Abiding as Self = Just Be
but here we are doing it as a practice while vedanta says that we should remove our ignorance so that we can naturally abide as self and mindfulness becomes natural


Hi Friends,
         For all of us , whether we are students of Vedanta or whether we are seeking worldly success, its important that we gather our minds together and sharpen them so that they could be used effectively. Most often, our minds are not really with us. Let me take a simple example: Swami Vivekananda says "Be Strong" but then a "weakness" overtakes us and we are gone for a toss. The teaching is correct but we are not really in a position to "own it up" because our minds are not with us. To assimilate the teaching we need to introduce certain simple sadhanas into our daily practice. Daily practice is absolutely important and very basic. In this thread I will be presenting a few simple techniques / articles /videos on useful daily practices. In my opinion, any of these [or a combination, one can try some variation] can be of immense benefit in assimilating self knowledge. These are very elementary but "regular" practice of these simple and elementary techniques can transform our lives in big ways and also make assimilation of knowledge very easy.

Here I would also like to present some modern research findings on the effects of meditation and other  miscellaneous stuff.


General Discussion / Re: material pursuits and sadhana
« on: August 01, 2017, 11:42:35 AM »
Dear ksksat27,
          :) It is not material pursuit itself that is a problem, its trying to find fulfillment through the material pursuits that is a problem. Because materials can give us comfort not fulfillment. If i get more money i can buy a bigger flat, better car etc but that does not give me fulfillment! if i think ill be fulfilled by getting money, it means am just looking at the wrong place and when my hopes are wrong i would be disappointed. most often we realize it towards the end of our lives.

So by all means earn more money, become more knowledgeable and famous... however one should not live in the illusion that these things will make us fulfilled. They have the capacity to give us some comforts. with money i can have an air conditioned room. but as death draws near we will realize that none of these are really going to make us happy in a true sense. yes , i might die in an air conditioned room if i am rich and may have to die on the roads if i am poor --- so i would earn some money if i can.... but i may as well die on the roads peacefully and die in an air conditioned room in agony ! most important therefore is my self knowledge and the punya karma i do.

with this understanding one may go and acquire any materials that can make one comfortable ... but never think that those comforts can make us fulfilled. thats all there is to it.


Forum advice, news & etiquette / Re: forum devotees and their fate
« on: August 01, 2017, 11:32:08 AM »
Dear Ravi ji,
     :) Thank you.

Dear ksksat27,
        :) This forum is always fantastic ! It has the grace of Bhagavan Ramana.


Forum advice, news & etiquette / Re: forum devotees and their fate
« on: July 31, 2017, 12:30:27 PM »
_/\_ My pleasure ! I too am equally happy to be here.

Forum advice, news & etiquette / Re: forum devotees and their fate
« on: July 31, 2017, 06:56:52 AM »
Hello Friends,
        Thank you for remembering me :) !


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