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General topics / Re: Nisargadatta -- Watch
« on: April 27, 2018, 03:49:06 PM »
Dear Nishta,
        :)
you mean thought watching ?
would one not get tired doing that through out the day ?
is this mean to be done only for 30 mins in the morning ?

Love!
Silence

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General topics / Re: Nisargadatta -- Watch
« on: April 27, 2018, 11:12:53 AM »
:) BTW : i am not simply playing with the words here... the question is "how to remember the self"

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General topics / Re: Nisargadatta -- Watch
« on: April 27, 2018, 11:10:52 AM »
How to remember the "Self" ?
remembrance = memory -- dead ! isnt it ?

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The problem is not in my not recognizing the power of Arunachala Mountain in tiruvannamalai !
The problem seems to be my not recognizing the power of Arunachala Mountain inside me !!
Right now , here ... i am with Arunachala inside me ! in the presence of Ramana Himself !
why do i not believe this ?
Lack of Faith ?

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:)
Quote
the soul connection is only at Arunachala, that only Arunachala took us giving shelter when no one else gave shelter.

There is also no one else to give shelter !

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Dear Nishta,
        :)
"people flock to see Ramana Maharshi during his lifetime" - you mean his body ? which body ?

Where does Arunachala start and where does it end ? where are the boundaries and who has drawn them ?

Love!
Silence

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is that arunachala absent here  ? or is ramana absent ?

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Prelude to Verse 4:

The world is unreal and uncertain - its a dream. But what matters is not this logical conclusion but is it a dream for me or not. because the logical conclusion means nothing really. every drunkard is convinced that drinking is bad. he has all the logic and yet cannot stop drinking. so its not about a logical position one takes at all.

Traditionally Sruti-Yukti-Anubhava is said to be the means to liberation. Sruti constitutes hearing the scriptures from a guru. Yukti is often translated as reasoning... recently however i heard Swami Tattvavidananda Saraswati ji explain it slightly differently ... he said Yukti derives from the same Yuj root from which Yoga derives. Meaning Yukti is really to be one with the vision of the scriptures. To start looking at the world through the vision provided by the scripture. Who does not know, logically, that everything is dying ?  and yet if we start looking at the world a continuously dying, we come to experience a totally new world. This is yukti. i start to look at my own mind through the vision provided by the scriptures and anubhava is to consequently remain. Anu: following. Bhav to be. Having looked at the world from this position, be the Truth. That is the way i tend to look at this.

verse1 and verse 2 are merely telling us that the world is only a myth. verse 3 has started to tell us how we can make this understanding real for ourselves. how we may live it in the day to day life so that we see the world as a myth. To see god is to look at the world as a dream. the two are the same. so the verse 3 says leave the world and start seeing God. The world is real is called materialism as long as i think that the world is real, i am not seeign god. the moment i see the world as unreal, that unreality of the world is the God , because the God is the presence which enables the unreality to be seen. when i see the snake as an imagination, there and then is the rope upon which the snake is seen. the very place where the snake is seen, there itself is the rope.

but we tend to reimagine the snake and fear again ... and so again and again one needs to correct the errors in perceptions until one is no more prone to that error. this is what is meant by the 3rd verse where Bhagvan says offer to god, meaning start seeing god through every action. offering to god means what? to dissolve it in god! so start seeing god.

now in the 4rth verse Bhagavan is going to tell the various means to include this into our day to day life. how do i start looking at the world as unreal and god alone as real in my day to day life ? This is what is being explained in the next verse...

 

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General topics / Re: The World Is Real
« on: March 23, 2018, 12:52:06 PM »
Dear Nishta,
   :) That is misunderstood basically.


Are you sure our definitions are the same for world, illusion, real, unreal etc?


edit: same as my definitions, that is

Dear Nishta,
         :) The definitions do not matter in this scenario.
The statement you posted are exactly the ones i was using in my explanation :)

Love!
Silence

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General topics / Re: The World Is Real
« on: March 20, 2018, 11:52:47 AM »
Dear Nishta,
   :) That is misunderstood basically.

There is one place where he said : 1) world is unreal, 2) brahman is real, and 3) world seen as brahman is real ... but this does not mean the world is real. when i say the snake seen as rope is real it means snake is not there at all :)

This is actually called "baadhaayaam saamaanaadhikaranyam"

In darkness i see a stump of tree and take it to be a thief. and then to such a person its said "the thief is the stump alone" , that is like saying "all this here is indeed brahman" ... another example: in twilight i see a snake on a rope, and then am told the snake is only the rope. this is actually a negation ... the reality is of the rope, not the snake. the statement "thief is a stump",  "Sthaanurayam purusah" is actually correcting an error in perception where the stump is  mistaken to be a thief or a person. We are not qualifying the word "Sthanu" or Stump with the word Purusha or person/thief here.
The setence only negates the idea that there is a thief out there, and only stump remains.
Similarly when one says "all that is here is purusha/brahman", everything is swallowed or devoured, and the brahman remains.

In Bhagavan's three statements 1) world is unreal is told to a person who sees the world is real. then the person asks what is real ? 2) brahman... but he still does nto see brahman , where can brahman be seen ? 3) here , all this is brahman alone ... which is to see all this as pure presence ... motionless , changeless ... changeless in and through the changes because the changes are unreal. so what do u mean by the world ? if it is brahman its real but it is not names forms and changes [brahman is changeless], if it is not brahman , names, forms , changes they are all unreal. 


Love!
Silence




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General topics / Re: The World Is Real
« on: March 18, 2018, 08:47:48 PM »
:D

Nishta! this is a really big illusion :P

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Dear ksksat27,
     :) I have not read this text, do you have some references ?

Love!
Silence

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Dear gopalgtg ji,
              :) Live in the world retaining your calmness.
no need to tell others or convince others of your spiritual understanding. Let it show through life and living and not through any talk.
Sri Ramakrishna says that before cutting a jackfruit one should oil one's hands so that the juices do not stick to the hand. same way before starting out on your daily life, just spend a few minutes in meditation. in the initial stages it would be useful to do guided meditation. I would strongly recommend:
https://palousemindfulness.com/meditations/bodyscan.html

do this every day and live a normal life ... calm life, happy life. as you grow with knowledge everything naturally falls in place

Love!
Silence

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:59:51 AM »
Annamalai Swami ji is pretty clear : stop believing that i am this body or the mind. There is no "I" in the body/mind.
Bhagavan : the body and mind have no person "in" them. Awareness does not either. see where is the "I" .
Sri Ramakrishna: it is like peeling an onion, if you keep on peeling there is no "center". if you search for i there is no i

All of them are saying just the same thing.
Just the same Truth... different styles of expressing.

if instead i say ... ill concentrate, ill please a god or ill stop my thoughts etc ... well ... they would say that i may continue these practices until one day by the grace of God i see what they are saying and drop off. :)

Love!
Silence

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General Discussion / Re: THIS FORUM
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:55:50 AM »
Dear ksksat27,
         :)

How did you rule out the possibility that it is a "devotee ego" :P that wants Bhagavan to be "Superior" or "Different" from Advaita Vedanta ? :)

Love!
Silence

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