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General topics / Re: Guru Poornima Day - 27.06.2018
« on: June 29, 2018, 07:56:57 AM »
okay  . thank you. but i see in shirdi  saibaba yearly calender they also mention guru poornima on 27th july . may  be u mean puttaparthi saibaba.. regards

General topics / Re: Guru Poornima Day - 27.06.2018
« on: June 28, 2018, 08:57:15 AM »
is not 27th july  guru poornima?
om namo bhagavathe sri ramanaya

thank you


namo ramana

thank you

will keep upating your goodself


if one has to grasp the silence who is the one who is grasping thw silence?  is not that  one aware that he is trying to   grasp  the silence or grasping the silence  and this stage could lead to further stage that "one" watching the silence. So is not the one who is apparently seem to watching the silence, the  ego?  then at what stage the ego drops off............

yes i watched that. very good . but some more essentials  like details of  skandasramam and virupaksha cave etc  could have been  included which  formed  part of shri Bhagavan's life with His body
om namo bhagavathe sri ramanaya

General topics / Re: Maha Sivaratri - - 13.02.2018
« on: February 13, 2018, 03:07:24 PM »
om sambho sri arunachala  mahadeva
jai sri gurudeva
Namo Ramanaya
Asramam  will be carrying on with night long  chants, abhishekams, alankarams  and maha  arathi to shri ramaneswara  lingam

General Discussion / The Power of Arunachala......
« on: November 05, 2017, 07:06:21 AM »

Arunachala has always been renowned as the bestower of liberation, the destroyer of the ego, the remover of the false notion 'I am the body' - as the jnana-Guru par excellence.

When Brahma and Vishnu began to quarrel, being deluded by pride and egoism, Lord Arunachala Siva appeared before them in the form of a column of fire, thereby vanquishing their egoism and teaching them true knowledge. When Sakti, Goddess Parvati, wished to attain a state in which she could do no wrong, Lord Siva sent her to Arunachala, where she merged and became one with him. Thus, even to Brahma and Vishnu, Arunachala was Guru, and to Parvati it was the place where she lost her separate individuality.

Throughout the ages saints and sages have sung verses in Sanskrit, Tamil and other Indian languages extolling the unique power of Arunachala to root out the ego and to bestow Self-knowledge. All the four great Saiva sages of Tamil Nadu, Manikkavachagar, Sundaramurti, Appar and Jnanasambandhar, have sung in praise of Arunachala. In one verse often pointed out by Sri Bhagavan, Jnanasambandhar described this hill as being jnana-tiral, a dense mass of jnana. And Sundaramurti, singing in Tiruvanaikka, remembers Arunachala and sings, 'O Annamalai, you can be known only to those who give up the attachment to the body'.

These puranic stories and songs of ancient sages all confirm the fact that Arunachala is the supreme jnana-Guru. But this fact has received its most striking confirmation from Sri Bhagavan. In verse nineteen of Aksharamanamalai he explicitly states that Arunachala shines as the form of his Guru; and in the same verse he reveals the function of the real Guru, namely to destroy all our defects, including the root-defect, the ego, to bestow all good qualities upon us and to rule over us.

ref: Michael James, The Power of Arunachala

General Discussion / Re: BJP president visits today Ramanaasramam
« on: June 27, 2017, 06:30:13 PM »
thank you for  your updates .

i dont know what to say .

i think this is the first such occurrence  in Ramana asramam wherein regular commoners are not able to enter at certain occassions

Could be  so that  asramam authorities have to oblige to a VIP and thereby  they have to restrict so. 

what one can not cure one has to endure

we can't rule out  such happenings in future

saduragiri is one such place where no VIP can visit as there are  road to go up and no helipad  can be set up. if the VIP wants to worship sundara mahalinga  swamy one  has to walk up to  the mountain top  which  no he/she VIP  going to do . 

let us  pray to Bhagavan

General Discussion / Re: BJP president visits today Ramanaasramam
« on: June 27, 2017, 04:00:09 PM »
do u mean regular common devotees are kept away entering the asram?. Can't be. Are you carrying a correct news that regular  devoteees were held at gate not allowed entry?  In my humble opinion  i have read that even during Bhagavan's alive period  He never distinguished between 'big' and 'small' devotees. He was offering anugraham to one and all indiscriminately. Please confirm.Namo Ramana   

General Discussion / BJP president visits today Ramanaasramam
« on: June 27, 2017, 08:18:46 AM »
it is reported  that shri Amit shah, President of BJP is visiting asramam today
Obviously other state big weights will accompany him
 Bhagavan's premises with It's ever present silence  there will remain  many fold more despite their visit and Bhagavan's Grace will be  showering on them like to any other commoner.
om namo bhagavathe sri ramanaya   

General Discussion / reported in face book
« on: May 02, 2017, 07:40:24 AM »
a friend  of mine shares in Face book today
"Two losses in a short period .On 30th April 2017 at 1930 we lost a great devotee of Bhagavan and a perfect example for the word "Confidence"... TV S Manian father of Sri Vaidhyanathan at Arunachalam.
He was 92.
Today May 2 at 0030 am lost Smt Sarda wife of
Late Balu Sarma and mother of Prohit ,Scientist
(Not even an undergraduate of Science) ,Astrologer , SocialIst and genius in the field of Astronomy BALU SARAVANAN .
She lost her hearing at a tender age. She was a great devotee of Sri Ramana . Always smiling .
Our family bondage dates back to forties 1940
Whenever I meet her she will mention every one in my family and enquire about their health.
She was 89 .

Ashrams / Re: Ramana Ashram
« on: April 02, 2017, 05:54:59 PM »
myself and my  famly members had the regular opportunity to listen to him all  the evenings whenever we go to asramam.,utter simplicity  and always speaking and sharing about maha periyavaa  ,bhagavan and  seshadri swamigals was his hall marks. when i read the  news of his demise in elsewhere  i was into a shock.
may all gurus  bestow Their  blessings to the soul of gowrishankar mama
our heartfelt condolences to his son, the veda head of asramam and to the bereaved family   

i am also keen to read those selected extracts, articles, write ups  by mr graham
even of ksksat shares to me that would be too fine
namo ramana

Ashrams / Re: Ramana Ashram
« on: January 14, 2017, 06:33:23 AM »
from the newsletters Newyork Ashramam Jan 2017

The Old Hall Rises in the New World

When Srimati Kalyanamathy Rathinasamy said that she wanted to bring Sri Bhagavan to Tampa, we understood that the Bhagavan she was intending to bring was already residing within her own heart. Yet, her aspiration was to have him manifest physically in the best way she saw possible by replicating the very building in which Sri Bhagavan resided for over 20 years  the blessed space now known as The Old Hall of Sri Ramanasramam.

THE devotees of the Tampa Sri Ramana Satsang and those of Arunachala Ashrama, New York offered to assist her so as to make her dream come true. Her husband, Dr. Palani Rathinasamy, shared her aspiration and spared no effort to realize her vision, supporting and encouraging her at every step. Sri Ramanasramam provided unreserved assistance with their advice, photos and measurements of all the elements that make up the Old Hall. Sri V. S. Mani even hand-carried to the USA a piece of floor stone from the original Old Hall that was recovered from the 1986 reconstruction of the original Old Hall. This stone was embedded into the new hall's floor near Bhagavan's couch so all devotees who prostrate before Him in Tampa might place their head on stone that Bhagavan once consecrated with his holy feet.
 Smt. Mathy & Dr. Rathinasamy
Smt. Mathy & Dr. Rathinasamy

The President of Sri Ramanasramam graciously wrote:
Smt. Mathy and Dr. Rathinasamy, Thank you for inviting us to the Inauguration function of The Old Hall Replica today in Tampa, Thursday, the 29th December 2016. It gives us immense joy to know that the replica hall has come out very well and almost resembles the Old Hall here, one of the most sacred places to Sri Bhagavan's devotees. Our congratulations to you and your team on behalf of the Ashram. It shows the dedication, effort and hard work of the entire team.
We wish the function all success. We are certain that the replica hall will continue to be a source of the guiding presence and inspiration of our Master Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi.
We seek His Blessings and Grace on the entire team of devotees.
Yours in Bhagavan,

President, V. S. Ramanan
James Hartel of New York produced designs for the contractor and oversaw all the woodwork construction; he traveled to Tampa several times to consult with the contractor and even worked on the construction himself.
When Suri Nagamma encountered many obstacles in the writing of her Letters from Sri Ramanasramam, she was told by a wise friend, śrēyāṁsi bahu vighnāni (Good works encounter several obstacles). And so it was with Mathy's dream of replicating the Old Hall in Tampa.
 new 'Old Hall' inside view
click to see a larger image

Every step on her path met with countless road blocks and delays. But Mathy and Dr. Rathinasami calmly weathered them all with the faith that Bhagavan would somehow get the work done, not on their timetable, but on His. And done it was, in a remarkable fashion.
Right up to the night prior to the griha pravesham and inauguration, January 29th, work was in full swing. The following morning, when the 80 devotees from the Sri Ramana Jayanti Retreat in Tampa arrived, all were spellbound by the likeness to the blessed Old Hall sanctified by the presence of Sri Ramana and most particularly by the palpable presence of Bhagavan which they now experienced. It felt as if the Master had chosen to reside in His new abode in Tampa for the purpose of making our minds subside. More than one person commented that the moment they walked into the Old Hall they became totally disoriented, that their minds blanked out, their body numbed, and that they remained in total peace. Coming back to themselves they realized that, in reality, they had not been 'disoriented' but, rather, they had become reoriented to their true Nature. The state that they had previously experienced was now understood by them to be the disoriented one. Sri Bhagavan's presence was felt intensely by so many on that first day as the Ganesha Puja and homa were performed. This was followed by the chanting of Aksharamanamalai and other works.

To the gathering in the new Old Hall that morning Mathy spoke a few quiet words of welcome to the devotees and expressed her heartfelt gratitude to Bhagavan for fulfilling her humble desire to bring His presence to Tampa. Dr. Venkat Ramanan, President V. S. Ramanan's son, welcomed the devotees and expressed his gratitude to the Tampa satsang, Mathy and Dr. Rathinasamy. Dennis Hartel of Arunachala Ashrama also offered a few words of recognition to those who worked so hard to produce this living monument that will serve to transmit Sri Bhagavan's grace to seekers here in North America.
 new 'Old Hall' outside view
click to see a larger image

Incidentally, a model of a small white cow was used symbolically to enter the hall first, and the image of that cow reminded devotees of Bhagavan's cow Lakshmi who would brazenly enter through the south door of the Old Hall unmindful of all the devotees sitting before her as she marched straight to her Master's sofa.

The following Saturday morning, December 31st, all the retreat attendees returned to the the Old Hall and resounded it with the singing of Aksharamanamalai, Ramana Sadguru and other hymns in praise of Bhagavan and Arunachala. These were interspersed with graphic readings of incidents that had occurred in the Old Hall during Bhagavan's lifetime. The teachings and scenes described gripped the devotees as if they were actually happening before their very eyes, so much was the Divine Presence felt during those few hours.
To those who have never visited Sri Ramanasramam, or to those who may not, for any reason, be able to do so in the future, and to all devotees of Sri Ramana old and new, we unreservedly recommend a visit to this Old Hall replica, a most remarkable building from which the grace of the Master is bound to penetrate the hearts of sincere seekers for years to come.

There are no facilities there for guests but access to North America's Old Hall is easily arranged by calling or emailing Mathy or Dr. Rathinasami 813.685.8843 / mathy at
Also, photos of the new Old Hall and Tampa Retreat programs can be accessed online at:

Sri Ramana Maharshi's 137th Jayanti Retreat in Tampa
THIS year the Jayanti retreat began on the morning of Thursday, 29th December. About 80 devotees traveled to attend from the East Coast to the West, from Canada to South America. It was a joyous gathering of brothers and sisters united under the gracious glance and loving presence of Bhagavan Ramana.
Each morning of the retreat began at 6 AM with Morning Veda Parayana. A half hour of readings by various devotees followed. From 7:15 to 7:45 Sri Lalita Sahasranam Stotram was recited, silent meditation then continued until 8:30. Most evenings we listened to the Evening Veda Parayana at 5 PM followed by meditation till 6:30. After meals and free time, devotees gathered again for chanting and more silent meditation.

In the afternoons there were several presentations. Dr. Venkat Ramanan captivated all with his talk on the significance of the Old Hall. There were video interviews, taped by Rohit Vaidya in November 2016 at Sri Ramanasramam, of President Sri V. S. Ramanan, Sri V. S. Mani and Michael Highberger. The computer room staff at the Ashram did an excellent job of editing the President's interview; the other two interviews were edited by Rohit himself. On another day, Dennis Hartel gave a presentation with numerous photos to commemorate the 50th Anniversary of the founding of Arunachala Ashrama, Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi Center in the USA and Canada.
On Thursday morning, devotees traveled to the new Old Hall, about 10 miles from the Franciscan Center. As described in the previous article, during the morning hours all gathered for the inauguration pujas, talks and songs. Lunch was served in the Vishnu Mandir, a few minutes walk down the street. At 3 PM the Jayanti Puja at the Hindu Temple of Florida (next to the Vishnu Temple) began. A beautiful bust photo of Bhagavan, another of Arunachala, a large stone from the Holy Mountain and a Siva Lingam were the objects of worship. Eleven devotees chanted the Rudram and other mantras, an elaborate puja was performed by the head priest and prasadam was distributed. This event on the first day of the retreat invariably serves to open and purify the hearts of the devotees so that the Master's grace may enter their hearts unimpeded in the following days.
Devotees attending the Sri Ramana Jayanti Retreat, Tampa, FL

As our retreat neared its end, the New Year was just arriving. Most of the devotees joined together in the shrine singing Bhagavan's and Muruganar's works and other chants. The children of the retreat stood together in front of us and delightfully told us the life story of Bhagavan. At 11:30 PM Aksharamanamalai began, singing the Arunachala Siva refrain after each verse. While our voices rose in harmony, firecrackers exploded in the sky from across the Hillsborough River and New Year arrived. Bells rang, prasad was distributed and Arunachala Siva, Arunachala Siva, Arunachala Siva, Arunachala!continued till well after midnight. Devotees lingered on, embraced in the glow of the New Year ushered in with the vibrant presence of Bhagavan and the warmth of friendship.

The devotees attending the last four retreats, or any one of them, continue to be amazed by the meticulous, thorough planning and execution of all the inspiring elements of these Ramana Jayanti Retreats in Tampa. Rohit Vaidya and his dedicated team of sevaks cannot be praised adequately for all they have done to create an Ashram-like home for the devotees and seekers traveling to Tampa from all parts of this hemisphere. May Sri Bhagavan himself ever abide in their hearts and in the hearts of all.
                           om namo bhagavathe sri ramanaya

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