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Mahatma Gandhi And Sri Ramana Maharshi
The former president of India, Mr. Rajendra Prasad, once went to the asramam of Mahatma Gandhi and said, ?Bapuji, I have come to you for peace!? The abode of peace was known well to Gandhiji and hence he advised, ?if you want peace, go to Sri Ramanasramam and remain for a few days in the Presence of Sri Ramana Maharshi, without talking or asking any question.? Mr. Rajandra Prasad accordingly arrived at Sri Ramanasramam on 14th August 1938. Though those who accompanied him spent their time in asking Sri Bhagavan questions regarding spiritual matters and in visiting all the places on the Hill where He had lived, Mr. Rajendra Prasad did not move away from the Presence of Sri Bhagavan. Besides, according to the advice of Gandhiji, he spent the whole of that week without raising any question or doubt. At the time of his taking leave of Sri Bhagavan, he approached Him and humbly enquired, ?O Bhagavan, it was Gandhiji himself who sent me here. Is there any message that I may take to him??
Sri Bhagavan graciously answered : ?The same Power which works here is working there also! Where is the need for words when heart speaks to heart??

From The Path of Sri Ramana
Sri Sadhu Om

Note : Gandhiji had not met Bhagavan but advised not just Rajendra Prasad but also many others when they were disturbed to go to Sri Ramana Ashram and sit in silence before  Bhagavan  and come back refreshed . Kanchi Paramacharya had also not met Bhagavan but advised others to go there like Paul Brunton etc .   Here Gandhiji and Kanchi Mahaperiyva did not feel the need to go to Bhagavan but advised others to go . As I was writing this I came across the following quote from a Vedantic Teacher which perfectly describes the situation above and the quote is "There will be no feeling of discomfort in a presence of a person who is truly free." . Now we know why Gandhiji and Kanchi Mahaswamigal advised others to visit Sri Bhagavan .

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: April 23, 2018, 09:31:08 AM »
We are so caught up in our own judgments, in our own prejudices, in what we want to know, but If one can listen, it reveals a great deal. If we can really quietly listen to everything that is happening in our consciousness, to our own impulses, the various passions, the envies, the fears, then the silence comes into being. - Kanchi Maha Swamigal

The above quote is from Kanchi Mahaswamigal and it is very similar to what J Krishnamurti also keep saying many times .

General topics / Re: Buddhist Teachings and Practices
« on: April 23, 2018, 09:20:52 AM »

Dipa Ma ( a great Buddhist Vipassana Teacher ) said that even while she was talking, she was meditating. Talking, eating, working, thinking about her daughter, playing with her grandson?none of those activities hampered her practice because she did them all with mindfulness.
"When I'm moving, shopping, everything, I'm always doing it with mindfulness. I know these are things I have to do, but they aren't problems. On the other hand, I don't spend time
gossiping or visiting or doing anything which I don't consider necessary in my life."

How do you tie your shoes?
She encouraged me to live what I was teaching. The quality of her presence was like that in the Hasidic tales, where somebody asked, "Why did you go to see this rabbi? Did you go to hear him give a great lecture on the Torah, or see how
he worked with his students?"
And the person said, "No, I went to see how he tied his shoes."

Dipa Ma didn't want people to come and live in India forever
or be monks or join an ashram. She said, "Live your life. Do the dishes. Do the laundry. Take your kids to kindergarten. Raise your children or your grandchildren. Take care of the community in which you live. Make all of that your path, and follow your path with heart.

Jack Kornfield

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: April 20, 2018, 06:48:18 PM »
Today ( 20 April 2018 ) is Adi Shankara Jayanathi and Sri Mahasannidhanam ( Sringeri Sri Bharati Teertha Mahaswamigal ) in His Anugraha Bhashanam has said that it is our foremost duty to remember and revere Sri Adi Shankaracharya, the incarnation of Lord Parameshwara, for reviving Sanatana Dharma and for showing the path of welfare to all. Remembrance of Sri Adi Shankaracharya and His virtues can be done by all by chanting His Ashtottara Shatanama. If we understand the pregnant meanings behind each name in the Ashtottara, and chant the names, it will be as if Sri Adi Shankaracharya Himself stands before us giving us His Darshan. Sri Mahasannidhanam blessed that every follower of Sanatana Dharma participate in this Japa Yajna, the greatness of which is vouched for by Bhagavan Himself in the Gita, where He states ?  ?यज्ञानां जपयज्ञोऽस्मि? ? Of all Yajnas, I am the Japa-Yajna. Sri Mahasannidhanam also said that the the Parayana of the Ashtottara of Sri Adi Shankaracharya must become part of our daily prayers.

This Adi Shankara Ashtottara Parayanam Program organized by the Srinegri Mutt has been going on for the last few years and they have made excellent tools for people to follow the same through free PDF ( in Sanskrit , Tamil , Telegu , Kannada , Malayalam ) and also free audio downloads and also a free APP . This Adi Shankara Ashtottaram along with the other Stotras recommended by Sringeri Acharayas are a complete prayer by itself which can be followed by every individual , family , group as part of their daily /weekly prayer . I have made this Adi Shankara Ashtottara Parayanam a form of daily prayer and have nearly mastered the Adi Shankara Ashtottaram and will master the other stotras recommended by Sri Bharati Teertha Mahaswamigal in the coming months .For more details regarding this follow the Sringeri Mutt website .
Here is a link to the very clear chanting of the Adi Shankara Astottara in Sanskrit .

I am visiting Sri Ramanasramam sometime at the end of April or the beginning of June this year. And now, someone should not teach me that Bhawan is everywhere, and therefore, what need is there for me to visit Sri Ramanasramam (in lighter veins)!! Well, may be I shall be able to say something then, after I return from the Ashram. Meanwhile, I wish to remain silent, i.e., I do not intend to indulge in mental and physical activities excessively, or as far as possible and practicable.

Welcome back Anil . I do appreciate your feelings . You need not justify your visits to SriRamana Ashram ( or in fact any holy places ) to anybody .  In fact our Ancient masters have said that one must not talk too much about our spiritual sadhana , pilgrimage etc to other people just like that .  It is not for some secrecy but just to avoid un-necessary arguments as some people deliberately disturb the minds of those who are planning these sort of pilgrimages . Sharing some genuine concern regarding  weather conditions , food availability , accommodation facilities etc is  fine but questioning one's visit is not right .
Have a spiritually refreshing stay at Sri Ramana Ashram and feel free to share whatever you want .
Om Namo Bhagavete Sri Ramanaya .

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 18, 2018, 10:53:12 AM »
Short Messages from Sringeri Jagadgurus:

Sringeri Jagadguru on 5 Sutras to become a Dharmika:

1. Do not disturb anyone
2. Do not tell lies
3. Do not desire for other's things
4. See all women in this world as your mother
5. Do not desire to have whatever you see

General topics / Re: Buddhist Teachings and Practices
« on: March 16, 2018, 05:33:07 PM »
Brushing our teeth, cooking our breakfast, walking to the meditation hall ? everything we do, every step, every breath should bring joy and happiness to us. Life is already full of suffering; we don?t need to create more.

Thich Nhat Hanh

General topics / Re: Buddhist Teachings and Practices
« on: March 14, 2018, 03:22:46 PM »
Many of us have lost our capacity for listening and using loving speech in our families. It may be that no one is capable of listening to anyone else. So we feel very lonely even within our own families... So if you really love someone, train yourself to be a listener? You may be the best therapist for the person you love if you know how to train yourself in the art of deep, compassionate listening. You must also use loving speech. We have lost our capacity to say things calmly. We get irritated too easily. Every time we open our mouths, our speech becomes sour or bitter... We have lost our capacity for speaking with kindness... This is so crucial to restoring peaceful and loving relationships.

- Thich Nhat Hanh

General topics / Re: Buddhist Teachings and Practices
« on: March 13, 2018, 08:17:49 PM »

General topics / Re: Buddhist Teachings and Practices
« on: March 13, 2018, 02:43:35 PM »
Nonthinking is an art, and like any art, it requires patience and practice. Reclaiming your attention and bringing your mind and body back together for even just ten breaths can be very difficult at first. But with continued practice, you can reclaim your ability to be present and learn just to be.

- Thich Nhat Hanh

General topics / Re: Buddhist Teachings and Practices
« on: March 13, 2018, 02:07:53 PM »
You will have great difficulty practicing Zen if you regret leaving behind worldly study and pride or if you are attached to some special talent. So, you should return to being a blank page.

If you can pay the price of a very restrictive practice, you will get great freedom.

In the old days there used to be people who would suddenly forget about life and death with just one word from a Zen teacher. Also, there were many people who got enlightenment after three or seven days of practice. However, people these days have very little patience and practice Zen as a sideline. Because of this, people who have practiced for even twenty or thirty years still have not attained Buddhism?s great meaning.

When you eat rice yourself, you feel full. If you don?t practice Zen yourself, even the Buddha and eminent teachers cannot help you.

If you want to practice Zen, first win the battle of the six senses.

- The Teachings of Zen Master Man Gong, p.12

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 13, 2018, 09:50:34 AM »
Short Messages from Sringeri Jagadgurus:

Sringeri Jagadguru on What can we Offer God (Telugu):

To understand Dharma, Vedanta and other such noble subjects, it is essential that we read Sri Adi Shankaracharya?s works. He has written to bestow knowledge on a variety of audiences, including the layman.


For instance, we think that to make an offering to God, we need to take fruits, flowers, food, etc. However Sri Shankaracharya says, ?This is fine. But this alone is insufficient. There is one thing which is of utmost importance, which should be offered. What is that? It is but your mind. Without first offering your mind, there is no use of offering anything to God.? Therefore, Sri Shankaracharya has said:

समर्प्यैकं चेतः सरसिजमुमानाथ भवते
I should offer my mind as a flower to the Lord?s feet.

In this context, what is meant by offering the mind to the Lord? Is mind a tangible object? How then, is it possible to offer the mind? Offering your mind means meditating on the Lord always in your mind. You should think only of the Lord, not of other unnecessary things. Why? Because there is simply no purpose. There are so many things happening in the world. But do we stand to gain anything by thinking about them? No. But if we use the same time to meditate upon the Lord, it will give us great benefit. In our life, time is invaluable. Wasting it is a big mistake. The only way to not waste it, is to think of God always. If even a small bit of time is spent without thinking about the Lord, we should be as pained as we would feel if there was a theft in our house.

मुहूर्तमात्रेऽतिक्रान्ते भगवच्चिन्तनं विना ।
दस्युभिर्मुषितेनेव युक्तमाक्रन्दितुं ध्रुवम् ॥

If even a moment is wasted without thinking of the Lord, we should feel guilty about it. We think of many unnecessary matters. Is it of any use? Certain people come to attend a Puja, but start discussing about irrelevant matters, when seated in front of the deity. Is that the time to talk such matters? Where have you come and what are you discussing? Your duty then is to keep thinking of the Lord and watch the Puja. You have to chant the Lord?s name and meditate upon Him. Instead, if you let your mind dwell on impertinent matters, there is no bigger mistake than this. Therefore, Sri Shankaracharya has asked us to offer our mind as a flower to God. In essence, it means: Focus on the Lord, without letting your mind wander.


Copyright: Dakshinamnaya Sri Sharada Peetham, Sringeri

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: March 13, 2018, 08:44:11 AM »

D.: How can the rebellious mind be brought under control?

M.: Either seek its source so that it may disappear or surrender that it may be struck down.

D.: But the mind slips away from our control.

M.: Be it so. Do not think of it. When you recollect yourself bring it back and turn it inward. That is enough.

No one succeeds without effort. Mind control is not one?s birthright. The successful few owe their success to their perseverance.

A passenger in a train keeps his load on the head by his own folly. Let him put it down: he will find the load reaches the destination all the same. Similarly, let us not pose as the doers, but resign ourselves to the guiding Power.

- Talk 398.
14th April 1937

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: March 12, 2018, 06:01:58 PM »

Most people take the appearance of the snake in the rope to be reality. Acting on their misperceptions they think up many different ways of killing the snake. They can never succeed in getting rid of the snake until they give up the idea that there is a snake there at all.

People who want to kill or control the mind have the same problem: they imagine that there is a mind which needs to be controlled and take drastic steps to beat it into submission. If instead, they generated the understanding that there is no such thing as mind, all their problems would come to an end. You must generate the conviction,

'I am the all-pervasive consciousness in which all bodies and minds in the world are appearing and disappearing. I am that consciousness which remains unchanged and unaffected by these appearances and disappearances.'

Stabilize yourself in that conviction. That is all you need to do.

LWB, p. 266

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 08, 2018, 10:16:22 PM »
Experiences with Maha Periyava: Guru Charitra Parayana

Sri Maha Periyava veiled His divine powers from us. Many did not understand the significance of His divine incarnation. All the same, some have known Sri Periyava?s divine powers.

Chidambara Kulkarni of Hire Bagevadi near Belgaum was deeply devoted to Periyava. It was his practice to visit Kanchipuram once, or even twice in a year, stay on and read the Guru Charitram (Dattatreya Charitram) in seven days as a Sapataha Parayana as a traditional act of adoration. He once visited Kanchi with his family for this purpose. Another devotee also came there then. He said to Periyava, ?The Guru Charitra Parayana is going on.?

?How many times has the parayana taken place so far??

?So far, seventy-two times. The seventy-third Parayana is going on now.?

Sri Periyava asked an attendant, ?Do you know which Guru Charitram he is reading??

?No? said the attendant in reply.

?He is reading Periyava?s Charitram (Sri Maha Swamigal Charitram) written by Sambhamurthi Sastri every day. He has completed the parayana seventy-two times and is now doing it for the seventy-third time. On all days such as Pillayar Chathurthi, Krishna Janmashtami, Saraswati Puja and Rama Navami, he worships my picture. Other than me, he knows no God.?

I wanted to know who that devotee was. Periyava indulged in a bit of divine play and sent me away from there on an errand, not allowing me to know his name or the place he came from. I learnt then that there were many deeply devoted to Sri Maha Periyava like Pradosham Venkatarama Iyer Mama.

Narrated by SriMatham Balu Mama
Source: Maha Periyaval Darisana Anubhavangal, Vol-3
Compiled by Jagadguru Sri Maha Periyava - Kanchi Paramacharya/Fb

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