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General topics / Re: What is truth? Who can know?
« on: November 16, 2017, 09:47:04 AM »
Thank you for the posts Ravi.
Sri Chandrasekara Bharati mahaswamiji has a pleasant and gentle delivery. Was this recorded as he spoke or years later / after his death?

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: November 16, 2017, 02:45:52 AM »
When it is dis-covered that All are only yourSelf!

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: November 15, 2017, 04:09:39 AM »

I loved this post. It is beautiful...

With love,

Thank you for your kind words Jewell  :)

what is so amazing about one not realizing at night that one was dreaming?

Dear Sri Anil,
It is the parallels between the night and the day dream that are of interest. Perhaps I did not convey it so well.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: November 14, 2017, 02:37:47 AM »

Is it not amazing
that at night when we dream we do not realise we are dreaming,

We take the dream events and dream people to be very real.

It is only on waking in the morning that we realise it was all a dream
Despite all the happenings in my dream not only do I remain untouched,
but I need change nothing about what is only a dream.

Likewise, the jnani, having awoken from the dream, says to the person, you are dreaming.
The person objects, but my suffering, my pains, my struggles?

It is only on "WAKING UP" that the suffering, the pains, the struggles,
that are now taken to be so very real, are seen as they truly are,
A Dream.


Sri Bhagwan is said to have advised that the moment one experiences such stillness, one should revive consciousness and continue Enquiry till the mind is revealed to be non-existent, and it disappears.

I believe the type of stillness Maharshi warned against is marked my dullness, stupor, trance like states.
Whereas the preferred stillness is fresh, alert, aware.

Is that your understanding also?


All methods we use are artificial "owner-fed, tamed cats" ! They cannot catch the rat. for killing the rat, we need to get to the most natural and simple being, abidance ... Self.

Yes, so the rat need only be ignored. This starves the rat, and it dies of its own accord.

Maharshi puts it nicely (as always!) when he states, "take no notice of the ego and its activities, but see only the light behind".

... there is another kind of samadhi called cit samadhi, which means to abide in Awareness ... there ... the body continues as it is, mind continues as it is ... and this is true silence 

True jnana is not to "control" , "vanquish" or even "kill" mind ... true jnana is to recognize that mind is a mirage , unreal , like a snake seen on a rope ... and then one makes no attempt to stop the snake from moving, nor does one try to get rid of the snake.


Neither mind, body nor life need be changed. They can carry on as they do. What does it matter to the jnani who remains ever untouched.

... Although most who come to Advaita will likely commence by going into battle with mind. This seems to be inevitable in order to arrive at the understanding you write of.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: November 10, 2017, 03:52:34 PM »
What is the most obvious?
What is always there when one looks?
Is it not the sense of "me", the sense "I exist"!

Maharshi says, "Asked who wakes up from sleep you say 'I'. Now you are told to hold fast to this 'I'. If it is done the eternal being will reveal itself."

How wonderful! How beautifully clear! That unavoidable and obvious "me-ness", that is always there when one looks. Just attend to it. Attend to it. Attend to it. And "the eternal being will reveal itself." Or more aptly (perhaps!), the "me-ness" fades away.

Dear Nishta,
       :) Thank you for your comments.

 Thank you for your supportive words Udai. I will certainly post if I can contribute something.

Someone may be sitting with a lion cloth on the Arunachala Mountain without any money and be extremely happy
All this starts with the simple recognition that our worldly life is really like chasing a mirage.

Good post srkudai.

Maharshi lived in a cave without a cent and not knowing where the next meal will come from. Yet Peace is his nature. Ego wants more, and is never satisfied. Maharshi?s solution appears to be the most sensible, "Not letting the mind go out, but retaining it in the Heart".

There is no happiness in any object of the world. We imagine through our ignorance that we derive happiness from objects. When the mind goes out, it experiences misery.

When the world disappears, i.e. when there is no thought, the mind experiences happiness; and when the world appears, it goes through misery.


not to identify ourselves with the ego-body-mind complex,
... remaining untouched by the role being played out.   

 It is a wonderful contemplation for the dreamer; that the jnani does not identify with mind, body or world, and as such is completely free of these. These three are left alone to continue their destiny; the jnani remains untouched.

we do not wake up to the Truth of our own Real Self, of our own accord

Ego confidently asserts that through its own efforts Truth is dis-covered. For many years I puffed my chest and alleged the same. But in fact it is the Higher Power's (Self) doing.

RM.: The ego submits only when it recognises the Higher Power.

RM.: The intellect (ego) itself realises after continuous practice that it is enabled by some Higher Power to function. It cannot itself reach that Power. So it ceases to function after a certain stage. When it thus ceases to function the Supreme Power is still left there all alone. That is Realisation; that is the finality; that is the goal. It is thus plain that the purpose of the intellect is to realise its own dependence upon the Higher Power and its inability to reach the same.

General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: November 04, 2017, 02:22:38 PM »
They said to him, "Tell us who you are so that we may believe in you."

He said to them, "You examine the face of heaven and earth,
but you have not come to know the one who is in your presence,
and you do not know how to examine the present moment."

"you have not come to know the one who is in your presence"

Beautiful. Thank you.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: November 03, 2017, 02:43:17 AM »
 M.: Simply through your powerful attention to Being, become the reality, the vast eye, the unbounded space of consciousness.

To discover something.
To dis - cover.
To cease covering.

Knowing only thoughts, concepts, the unbounded space of consciousness is covered and remains hidden.

Cease covering with a simple shift of attention to that sense of Being-ness, that all without fail, possess. One need not fight thoughts, nor stop them, nor do anything other than make a simple shift to your own eternal Being-ness.

Initially, that Being-ness is only a glimpse. It is still "seen" through the lens of attachments. Perseverance, and IT becomes the only view.

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