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Messages - eranilkumarsinha

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Dear Sri Nishta,

I am not posting because I have no doubt right now as to the understanding of the Great, Radical Teaching of the Vichara, Its practice and Experience obtained or lived. However, I shall certainly respond to any genuine question, which is not merely questioning for the sake of questioning, i.e., I do not enjoy arguments and counter arguments.  Therefore, I wish to respond only if someone genuinely wants to share his/her understanding, and experience, obtained while treading the path.

Dear Sri Nishta, with His Grace always showering on all of us, and on me also, I am visiting Sri Ramanasramam sometime at the end of April or the beginning of June this year. And now, someone should not teach me that Bhawan is everywhere, and therefore, what need is there for me to visit Sri Ramanasramam (in lighter veins)!! Well, may be I shall be able to say something then, after I return from the Ashram. Meanwhile, I wish to remain silent, i.e., I do not intend to indulge in mental and physical activities excessively, or as far as possible and practicable.


Thanks very much, dear Sri Nishta. I hope you will continue to keep posting from the Teaching as you have done so far.
Pranam,
 Anil   

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The Self is known to everyone but not clearly. You always exist. The Be-ing is the Self. 'I am' is the name of God. Of all the definitions of God, none is indeed so well put as the Biblical statement 'I AM THAT I AM' in EXODUS (Chap. 3). There are other statements, such as Brahmaivaham, Aham Brahmasmi and Soham. But none is so direct as the name JEHOVAH = I AM. The Absolute Being is what is - It is the Self. It is God. Knowing the Self, God is known. In fact God is none other than the Self. (T-106)




Dear devotees, 'I Am'ness is the clue and 'I Am' is the Realization.  So, 'I Am' is the Self. Sri Bhagwan has taught that pursuing the clue till Realization is Vichara. Vichara is therefore the process  as well as the Goal. 'I AM' is the goal and the final Reality. To hold to it with effort is vichara. When spontaneous and natural it is Realisation. These are Sri Bhagwan's Words of Grace and therefore there can be no doubt about their veracity. However, here comes someone who THINKS that if he pursues the clue ('I Am'ness) his individuality will remain intact and such a one will not be able to get rid of the ego if he practices thus, and yet he claims that he practices Sri Bhagwan's Vichara! What can be said of that? It is simply ridiculous. Is it not?

Pranam,
 Anil

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Sri Bhagwan: The mind is simply fattened by new thoughts rising up. Therefore it is foolish to attempt to kill the mind by means of the mind. The only way of doing it is to find its source and hold on to it. The mind will then fade away of its own accord. Yoga teaches chitta vritti nirodha (control of the activities of the mind). But I say Atma vichara (Self-investigation). This is the practical way.


Dear Devotees,

I wish to remind the 'votaries of dropping off' that the ego or the mind (ego-mind) is  not an entity or non-entity independent of the Self in order that it must be created or destroyed by itself.  It always comes holding only 'us' (the Self), and functions as an instrument of the Self and periodically ceases to function. That is to say, it appears and disappears.  So, who will drop what? Can one get rid of one's shadow? Can ego get rid of itself?  One's shadow can be apprehended by apprehending oneself. This is why Sri Bhagwan compassionately has taught with so much emphasis that the only and only way of doing it to find the Source and hold on to it till the very end.

Therefore, Sri Bhagwan's Teaching of the Atma-vichara is absolutely unambiguous. The ego comes holding only us (the Self), and if we hold ourselves the ego will sure vanish and the Reality will shine forth as (I-I) of Its own accord. Besides, one must understand that ego will submit (drop off or surrender) only when it recognizes the Higher Power within. Then only all the illusory differences, which are like the blueness seen in the sky will disappear.  Hence Sri Bhagwan's Message to the mankind is crystal-clear: Attend to the Centre of yourself with a keen mind to know 'Who Am I?', that is, seek always to stay at the Core Centre of the Enquiry 'Who Am I?', therein lies our salvation.

Thanks very much.
Pranam,
  Anil

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Sri Bhagwan: Why should one be meditating 'I am Brahman?' Only the annihilation of 'I' is Liberation. But it can be gained only by keeping the 'I-I' always in view. So the need for the investigation of the 'I' thought.
Sri Bhagwan: Not to think 'I am Brahman' or 'All is Brahman' is itself jivanmukti.



Dear devotees, if the 'I' is not let go, the 'I'-thought which appears only from time to time still disappears being unreal and illusory, and the intuitive 'I' (I-I), which always remains Self-shining even before It  is manifest becomes manifest.  Then only one understands that there are not two selves but one Supreme Self which pervades and permeates all.
Pranam,
  Anil

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Dear Sri Kishorelr

Quote:
"Can thinking be silent, such as a flower, completely open, letting the beneficial rays of the Sun envelop her and still, when some form of communication is needed, to respond in a natural way with a wholeness of being?"


Yes, contrary to general perception and belief, thinking is not our nature. Now it is difficult to stop thinking and in the state of Realization it is difficult to think a thought.
Since you are aware of the 'wholeness of being', I feel that you must also be aware of the ignorance in the form of egoism which prevents one from responding in a natural way with a wholeness of being as you said. Due to ego alone one is not able to remain in the Beatitude of the 'Fullness of Being', or in the Beatitude of Aham-Brahman. The old tendencies of the mind sprout up thick and strong and form an obstruction to that state of Beatitude. Ego is their root which flourishes in the externalized and differentiating consciousness caused by the forces of vikshepa  and avarana (due to rajas and tamas respectively). Therefore, to ask 'Who Am I?', recognize the ever-present state of being and install the mind firmly in the Heart until these forces are utterly destroyed  is the Way. 


Quote:
"In fact, this is what life asks of us ceaselessly - to respond only when such a response is needed. The rest of the time, the being should be silent and watch in all serenity."



Yes, being is Silence, Aham or 'I' is Silence. However, this understanding should be nurtured carefully and patiently and steadied with further practice till one remains as mere being to be able to respond when needed with the 'Wholeness of Being'.

Thanks very much.
Pranam,
 Anil

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"Since the Scriptures proclaim, 'Thou art That which is called the Supreme', and since That itself always shines as Self, for one to meditate 'I am That and not this (the body and so on)', instead of knowing oneself through the enquiry 'What am I?' and abiding as Self, is indeed due to lack of strength (of mind) !"

V. 32, Ulladhu Narpadu



Dear Devotees,

Therefore, the Scriptures point to the Reality, and establish the identity of the creatures as That.  This is the great significance of the proclamation of the Sastras. Sri Bhagwan has unequivocally taught that the Reality has not been mentioned by the Scriptures to meditate Sivoham or Aham Brahmasmi, but to trace the significance and understand the import of the Sacred Texts.  It is therefore certainly not enough to repeat the bare words or think of them. However, I feel that if one is not able to do 'Who am I?' Enquiry one may take up this practice as an aid as enjoined by Sri Annamalai Swami.

Dear devotees, the things most of us understand without much ado become difficult to be grasped by someone who remains always engaged merely in intellectual gymnastics and at best in enquiry into myriad school of thoughts. How can such a one understand that the the Sruti vakya, 'Aham Brahmasmi', relates to the State of Beatitude and not at all to the mode of mind. Sri Bhagwan says that one cannot become Brahman by continuing to repeat the mantra. It means that Brahman is not elsewhere. It is our own Self.  So, if the Self is found, Brahman is found. It teaches not to attempt to reach Brahman as if it were in some far off place.

Thanks very much.
Pranam,
 Anil

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Dear Sri Beloved Abstract, see without the story and you will find that there is love only. Everything is dear because of love for the Self only, said Sri Bhagwan.  All this therefore is for the Self, which is Love in which there is no lover and no beloved. Love alone drives us. Love for the Self and the path of being ensure that one is never swerved away from that Love which is manifested in the feeling of Oneness or Unity or Togetherness. 

Pranam,
 Anil

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Quote from Sri Ravi:
"Infact,there is one other video of JK where he clearly is saying what Bhagavan is saying on vichara....I wish that you go through this video as well...These are truly wonderful and clarifies the matter here and now...It is in this spirit that I am sharing the links."


Dear Sri Ravi, thanks very much. Since you are recommending these videos of Sri J. Kishnamurti's Talks, I shall certainly like to watch them. However, right now, I am moving out, and therefore, wish to view them tonight.
Pranam,
 Anil 

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Quote from  Sri Ravi:
"Udai rightly mentioned a couple of times regarding conditioning and how by slowing down and observing what is taking place one can gain clarity(I have paraphrased)...this is indeed a useful thing to do in the course of our discussions as well..."



Dear Sri Ravi, anything done for God is useful. How can I deny that? But observing thoughts was not even in the least recommended by Sri Bhagwan. 'I am the Self' meditation is a great aid, and is certainly useful for one who is incapable of the Atma-vichara, as Sri Annamalai Swami said and Sri Atmavichar posted. But if someone prematurely conducts such meditation, there is a danger against which Sri Bhagwan has warned in clear terms:"With a limited 'I' the man is so stuck up and wild. What will be the case when the same 'I' grows up enormous? He will be enormously ignorant and foolish. This false 'I' must perish." It is worth mention here that He only recommended Pranayama and moderation in sleep and food as the most effective aids to progress in the realm of spirituality.




Quote from Sri Ravi:
"it will help if we give space and time for each other to understand what we are trying to convey...and it will be better to give a simple statement of what we wish to convey rather than proceeding in a
 question answer fashion...yes,the questions can be helpful after we have ascertained that we are on the same page to view the questions objectively."




Dear Sri Ravi, here I do not agree. I have endeavoured to remain true to His Teaching in practice and writing. I have always sought to remain true  and written conforming to Sri Bhagwan's Teaching. And now after so many years of practice and study, someone comes and says this is Vichara, that is not Vichara, you have not understood, what is unique in Sri Ramana?, etc., they, to tell the truth, make no sense to me.  Therefore, what benefit I and those who follow this can derive from an exchange with someone who follows various schools of thoughts and practices most of which were never approved by Sri Bhagwan and some of which were specifically criticized and disproved by Him? I have always responded to genuine questions asked by devotees to share their views and insights in this thread. And I have always given 'simple statements' of what I wanted to convey and share, as you said. Hence this endless questioning, for the sake of questioning, all pertaining to one's wild and fantastic ideas and concepts, in complete opposition to that of my own, with a motive to confront and make the other bothered and troubled and feeling satisfaction and pleased in doing all this drives a wedge, and turns me away despondent. How can such ideas dent our faith in Him and His Teaching? Never.  No, this is not simply a case of difference of terms (terminological differences) employed by participants in this quite unnecessary, meaningless and detrimental debate.  Moreover, I can see though all this so clearly and therefore I shall not mince my words while expressing myself.

Dear Sri Ravi, I do not visit You Tube. I do not see videos and movies. I sometimes only view news and a little sports on the TV. Therefore, I shall request you to kindly recommend me something in print so that I may read and contemplate.

Pranam,
 Anil

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Quote:
"Or is it that you are finding a "Confrontation" of your "Standard Accepted Ideas" too bothersome ? Too troubling ?"
 

Dear devotees, if someone thinks that he can confront, bulldoze and make ardent devotees who are totally rooted in their Guru and His radical but realistic Teaching  bothered and troubled by his wild and fantastic ideas and concepts,  what can I say other than that he  underestimates Sri Bhagwan's devotees and does not understand at all? As far as I am concerned I am no longer interested in purely intellectual gymnastics anymore. That is all I have to say. 

Pranam,
 Anil

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Dear Sri Beloved Abstract, I thought that all this might be a little disconcerting to the sincere and genuine devotees. But thanks, I am also happy that at least you enjoyed.
Anil

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Please stop. Anil

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Dear Sri Udai, you have forced arguments on other members here several times and when your wild ideas were not accepted you quit. You may say what you like. I usually post two or three posts under this thread, and that too when I have time, and stay here hardly an hour or so. No, I am not used to arguments at all, and I have seen such discussion is always counterproductive. So, please stop. Please disinvest your baggage elsewhere, but at no cost here. Problem is you will still not listen. I am deeply fatigued. So, please stop. 
Anil

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Dear Sri Udai, I do not agree at all with any line you maintain. Therefore, please stop. I shall advise you to open a new thread and disinvest your baggage there. This thread is not meant at all for such meaningless polemics. I am simply not interested anymore to keep arguing harmfully for myself and others ad
nauseam. So, I again plead. Please stop, and waste your time in this fashion elsewhere, for I am not interested in such totally worthless discussion with someone who is bent upon forcing his misguided ideas and concepts on others. It does not matter to me what is the real Self-enquiry for you. You better work it out with Sri Ravi. Perhaps he will still listen to you.

Pranam,
 Anil 

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Oh! How conveniently you extracted only those lines from the Conversation posted by Sri Atma-vichar which suited you and omitted those which didn't. Oh! What a sheer wastage of time you have forced upon me!! I wonder whether this sort argumentation is your only sadhana. Please listen to me: Throw away all the jetsam/ baggage and stay upon the Core Centre of Enquiry 'Who Am I?' as taught by Bhagwan Sri Ramana.  Anil

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