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General Discussion / Re: The value of Certificates
« on: January 22, 2010, 10:25:09 PM »
This whole thread seems like building your egos by criticising someone else.  Feel good do you ?

General Discussion / Website Changes
« on: January 19, 2010, 02:47:56 AM »

I would like a section where people discuss their perceptions of reality and experiences of self-enquiry.

At the moment there are for instance a number of sections on the 'teachings' of Maharshi which I dont think are as important as seekers sharing their sense of I.

I think it would be useful if seekers as they are seeking document what perception of reality they are having now.  I think this would be useful.

Often I make a post and the replies are just quotes from a book by Maharshi - I don't like this because it is not a sharing of your sense of I when you open a book and start copying it into Internet Explorer - how is this self-enquiry, you are just copying a book. 

Share your sense of I.  I think this is good.  Copying books is not good.

General topics / Re: How to watch the sense 'I am'
« on: January 13, 2010, 01:34:48 AM »
what we look for ...
so best thing is to relax...

If you are looking or if you are relaxing, you are doing something.

"Is there any meaning in wanting to be a jnani ?", or does enlightenment just happen ?
"Is it possible to make an effort to be a jnani ?"
"Why did Sri Ramana write a book about jnana ? reading a book is gaining a vasana"

Yes, I think, wanting to be a jnana might have some value.  I am not saying definitely, I am saying there is a possibility that it would help to want to be a jnana.

The instruction "hold onto the I-feeling".  This is a vasana.  Can it help you ?  Perhaps.

Perhaps if you have a small amount of wanting, a small amount of doing, it can take you 95% on the path, and then you give that up and you are pulled from the other side 5%.

If you think that any effort is against jnana, then stop being a jnana.  Stop relaxing.  Stop looking.  Forget it.

General topics / Re: What do you think about buddhist meditation?
« on: January 12, 2010, 06:04:12 PM »
Dear rideforever,
If one is not able to follow Guru's teachings due to his conditioning
that is, vasanas, nothing can be done. 

Dear Subramanian R.

I think this is not correct.  The Guru's teachings are a vasana, so something can be done.

Unfortunately it appears that some vasanas might lead to salvation.  I someone explains even the rudimentary idea of self-enquiry to someone else ... that is itself a vasana.

Clearly the situation is difficult and very subtle.  In order to remove all vasanas we might have to follow some good vasanas (self-enquiry) and then at then end try to remove even these ones.  Making a mistake, getting lost, or falling into illusion, must be a great great danger.

If the truth is pulling you from the other side then that would be helpful.

General topics / Re: How to watch the sense 'I am'
« on: January 11, 2010, 09:23:30 PM »
the sense of "Iam" is effortless, so making effort to reach it is can try but hte more oyu try the more you will be hard in the chest, the energy will move to your head and you will find meditaitng is very exhausting...

this is a misstake that I do and others maybe this could save some time

noone has ever seen this "Iam" is not an object to meditate about, infact the more we try to reach it the more we are in ignorance of our true nature

warding of thoughts cna be missunderstood, beeing thougtless is nice but temporary what we look for is ever present conciousness...wich does not care aout our best thing is to be that wich does not care wether thoughts are there or not...

Please help me understand.  You say do not try ... so you mean do nothing ?  Or are you saying do something subtle ?

General topics / Re: What do you think about buddhist meditation?
« on: January 09, 2010, 04:29:48 PM »
Hmm.  Nisargadatta believed his guru and following his teachings.  But is this possible for everyone ? 

Perhaps Nisargadatta had certain vasanas that caused him to following teachings very closely and achieved the end.  He was lucky to be conditioned in such a way.

If you are conditioned so that you do not following teachings, then what can be done ?

General topics / Re: How to watch the sense 'I am'
« on: January 08, 2010, 10:37:14 PM »
What is the feeling of existing ?  Seek within.  What is the feeling on existing ?  Now.

Sometimes I call myself to find myself : Q : hello ?   A : hmm ?   Q: hello ?   A:ar hmmm ?  Q:hello ?   A:... I am here ?

But I am is coloured by the impressions/conditioning picked up.  Holding the I am, deeper and deeper into the I am you go, beyond the impressions until there is just I am, and then one step further ... which cannot be described.

General topics / Re: What do you think about buddhist meditation?
« on: January 08, 2010, 10:30:27 PM »
This is a good question that I also have been thinking about.  To expand the question : what 'practices' other than self-enquiry are acceptable ?  Any ?  None ?

Currently I am regularly doing asana, pranayama, kundalini meditation, psychotherapy, yoga nidra, mindfulness meditation, bhakti, and self-enquiry. 

I feel that working on all levels is preparing the soil and using the body, mind and heart to reach the goal.  Karma, bhakti, jnana.  And I check with self-enquiry if I am ready.  If I am not then I prepare more.  Then self-enquiry again - am I ready ?  If not more preparation etc...

General topics / Re: Where Are the Jnanis ?
« on: December 30, 2009, 02:57:32 PM »

General topics / Re: The Neo-Advaita - Misconceptions
« on: December 30, 2009, 02:56:06 PM »
Any path might or might not lead you to enlightenment.  It is difficult to say what would be successful. 

It seems to me that people are not on the path for the reasons they think they are.  Certain kinds of conditioning will place you on the path, and certain kinds will place you off it.  Thinking I am on the path for X reason, is probably false ... you will only fully understand why you took the path when you reach the end of it and understand all your conditioning.

The skepticism of the New-Advaita is useful, but clearly it can be used to mask no effort - as can anything.

General topics / Gratefulness
« on: December 28, 2009, 12:53:14 AM »
I am grateful for this group and its wisdom.

General topics / Ryokan Poem
« on: December 28, 2009, 12:52:05 AM »

My hut lies in the middle of the dense forest.
Every year the ivy grows longer,
no news of the affairs of men,
only the occasional song of a woodcutter.
The sun shines, I mend my robe.
When the moon is out I read poems.
I have nothing to report.

General topics / The Truth
« on: December 28, 2009, 12:50:24 AM »
In the West religion becomes fuzzy, a grey-area, a cloudy mystery.  Like "oh ok, religion looks nice for you - I can see it makes you feel good - but it is not for me", or "Oh yes, well he was talking about Truth - it's a metaphor for ... ".

No.  It is no metaphor.  The Truth is the Truth.  It is the Truth of your existence, it is the Truth of all existence, and when you see it you will see it within you not somewhere else.  It is not that you look over Buddha's shoulder and say "oh I see what you are playing with".  No.  You will see it within you and know that it is the Truth.

It is literally the Truth.  Literally.  There is nothing further, and you will know it to be so whe you see it within you.

General topics / Where Are the Jnanis ?
« on: December 22, 2009, 03:36:40 PM »

I am having a lot of insights at the moment.  And I would like to be among jnanis (or whoever) to discuss them.  It's quite unbelievable some of the things I am thinking ... like how do I know there is anyone else on the planet ?

Anyway ... is there an Ashram for Jnanis or a meditation centre or a church somewhere on the planet where people talk about these things.  Sort of like a working group ... do some practice, then discuss etc...


General topics / Re: Life is Too Weird
« on: December 10, 2009, 04:04:14 AM »
thank you matthias

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