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Hi Joaocarlosleme:

I am investigating these questions with great intensity. In relation to deep sleep, I understand that the instance has the purpose to show us that we exist even if the ego and the world do not. In deep sleep there is no idea about me, the world and God. But I cannot deny my existence; in deep sleep I exist and am conscious, since in the waking state I say I slept very well, with no dreams. How do I know that? When the state of dream comes, I continue to exist and am conscious, now with the addition of “me” (the “I” thought) and a world; when the waking state comes, I continue to exist and am conscious, also with the addition of “me” and a corresponding world. So, the “me” (“I” thought) and the world are transitory, whilst I exist and am conscious without interruption. The three states are transitory, they come and go, they alternate – I am. So, I understand that the instance of sound sleep used by Bhagavan Ramana has the purpose to draw our attention from the transitory to what is.

Regarding the difference between me and the world, I create a concept, an idea, an image, a mental representation of what I am and of what the world is; these images are different one from the other. These images are “what is not”, illusion (from “ludere”, to play), maya (literally “to measure”, “to evaluate”). I is the rope; “me” and world are the snake which is seen in dim light. What is the real nature of the “me”-snake and of the world-snake? It is the I-rope. So, as you said, “me” and the world are really not different, because both are maya, illusion, though they seem to be different. In the other sense, that is, in the real sense, they are not different too. They are appearances of the Self, they are modulations of the Self. What is the real nature of the world? What is the real nature of the world-snake and of the me-snake? The Self, I. They appear from what I really am and are modulations of what I am. Therefore, there is no difference, be it in the realm of illusion or in the realm of truth. So, there is no answer, because there is no question, since the question disappears.

Dominus

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I thinh that question can only be answered whwn I see (in the sense of "seeing is being"), really, who I am . Who goes to sleep? Do I really go to sleep? The concept I have about me is not really "I", as any concept is the real thing. The concept about "the world" is not the real thing. Is there a difference between the world and me unless in the realm of concepts?
Dominus

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