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General topics / Re: The World Is Real
« on: March 19, 2018, 08:29:07 AM »

Nishta! this is a really big illusion :P

this is a little know teaching of Maharshi's.....the world is not an illusion, it is real.

General topics / The World Is Real
« on: March 17, 2018, 05:09:37 AM » is not an illusion!

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: March 05, 2018, 07:52:22 AM »
You were not in deep sleep
Now you are
What are you?, and
Where have you come from?

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: March 05, 2018, 07:50:36 AM »
RM.: Watch the mind. You must stand aloof from it. You are not the mind. And the Self will remain over. If mind is watched thoughts cease. Peace results and it is your true nature.
AS: Watch the mind with full attention. Watch the ways of the mind without identifying with (thoughts) in any way. Ultimately, if we try hard enough, it gives us the ability to remain as consciousness, unaffected by transient thoughts.
NM: Watch your mind with great diligence, for there lies your bondage and also the key to freedom.
By looking tirelessly, I became quite empty and with that emptiness all came back to me except the mind. I find I have lost the mind irretrievably.

....earnestness is the only condition of success.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:59:40 AM »
Maharshi has informed you that your very existence, your sense "I Am", is the natural state, your true nature. Why does this not satisfy you? Maharshi states it is because of attachments to mind, body and world. Attachments obscure pure "Am-ness". If there were no attachments, "Am-ness" would satisfy and all troubles would end.

Does this mean attachments one-by-one need be warded off? No! Maharshi tells us to keep attention on the sense "I Am". By doing so attachments come to an end of their own accord and your glorious natural state will shine forth of its own accord.

How wonderful are the Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi.

General Discussion / Re: THIS FORUM
« on: February 16, 2018, 02:29:13 PM »
I do not agree that Inquiry "steals" away the habit. When the mind is totally still one may not feel like even speaking. but then, when one starts to involve in the world, one speaks and also acts. when mind is kept still for a long time, it tends to remain motionless. thats all that happens. but spirituality is not about motionless-ness of mind ... mind is like a car ... one needs to handle the mind. when moving and when still. otherwise one is not a good driver of the car.

Of course one will talk as required. However as contracting into concepts reduces, mind naturally quietens. 

That said, just because a person discusses and debates Advaita does not imply "immaturity", as mind, body and life are in no way related to Self.

Somehow people have a feeling that it is some kind of "spiritually superior state" to not debate :)

No doubt. But that is not Vichara. That is spiritual materialism, ie shifting the egos desires from the material to whatever idea one has of "spiritual". Vichara relinquishes ideas.

if a person gets excited, agitated or unhappy in a debate ... that means such a person has some "error"/"problem", a strong vasana within ... which needs to be addressed. and a vasana cannot be addressed by keeping away from it... when i face the vasana then alone can it be addressed. for example : suppose i am afraid of darkness... by avoiding darkness i only do not allow the vasana to arise. it is only when it arises that i can address it. same way, if a debate makes one agitated, better not run away from it ... face it!

Advaita is not a form of self-improvement, although often mistaken as such. Mind, body and life are not I, they can be ignored by the mature aspirant. RM.: "Similarly to take no notice of the ego and its activities, but see only the light behind." 

Having said that, there is a place for self-improvement, but that is for the person unwilling to undertake, or incapable of, Vichara.

and if a debate does not agitate the person... such a one should be perfectly fine to debate / not debate !

If there were no inclination to share/discuss/debate spirituality then one would not join a forum :D especially given that it takes time to even register !!


General Discussion / Re: THIS FORUM
« on: February 16, 2018, 03:01:51 AM »
On a personal note, communicating with others about the Teachings can be fruitful and enjoyable. However, inquiry does tend to quieten mind and steal away that habit. Sometimes a subject sparks my interest and I would like to thrash it out, but not so often these days.

General Discussion / Re: THIS FORUM
« on: February 16, 2018, 02:58:34 AM »
Thanks for all the replies....The most lively thread I have seen in a while.

On the matter of registering new members. It's been over 4 months since the last member was registered. I bet there are pending registrations from October 2017.

Regardless, it would be good to have a longer term member who visits the forum at least every couple of days have administrative access. They could register members within a week or 2 and clean up any spam should it occur.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: February 14, 2018, 01:48:02 AM »
RM.: The Self is that where there is absolutely no I-thought (ego). That is called Silence. 

RM.: The ego is itself unreal. What is the ego? Enquire. The body is insentient and cannot say 'I'. The Self is pure consciousness and non-dual. It cannot say 'I'. No one says, 'I' in sleep. What is the ego then? It is something intermediate between the inert body and the Self. If sought for it vanishes like a ghost. All that is required is only to look closely and the ghost vanishes. The ghost was never there. So also with the ego. It is an intangible link between the body and Pure Consciousness. It is not real. So long as one does not look closely it continues to give trouble. But when one looks for it, it is found not to exist.
*is it not marvellous how clearly Maharshi explains the illness and the cure

General Discussion / THIS FORUM
« on: February 10, 2018, 03:50:02 AM »
There hasn't been much communication here at the forum over the past couple of months. 

I notice it's been 4 months (as I write) since the last member (Chakrs) was registered. Whoever is the Administrator of the forum isn't registering new members as they apply. I think we need a new Administrator. Perhaps a member who visits the forum regularly.

The home page also needs a tidy up. Archive old/unused categories and reformat the colour scheme and layout etc.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: February 09, 2018, 09:42:39 AM »
RM.: Reality is simply the loss of the ego. Destroy the ego by seeking its identity. Because the ego is no entity it will automatically vanish and Reality will shine forth by itself. 
RM.: If we turn inwards inquiring "Where is this I?" all thoughts (including the I-thought) will come to an end and Self-knowledge will then spontaneously shine forth.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: February 04, 2018, 01:07:32 PM »
The obviousness of your true nature

Stillness is the sole requisite for the realisation of the Self as God.
Stillness is the aim of the seeker.     
Be still and know that I am God.

Stillness here means Being free from thoughts.
Knowing means Being.
"I-AM" is God (Self).
D.: On enquiry into the origin of thoughts there is a perception of 'I' (am). But it does not satisfy me.
RM.: Quite right. The perception of 'I' (am) is associated with a form, maybe the body. There should be nothing associated with the pure Self. The Self is the unassociated, pure Reality, in whose light, the body, the ego, etc. shine. On stilling all thoughts the pure consciousness remains over.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: February 01, 2018, 03:51:40 AM »
The obviousness of your true nature

RM.: (When mind) remains still without the least ripple, that stillness is the Self....Stillness or peace is realization.

*stillness refers to mental stillness
RM.: When thought-free consciousness is constant and effortless it is Self-realisation.
RM.: In the realised man the mind may be active or inactive, the Self alone remains for him.
*recognising stillness does not denote Realisation. Only when that stillness is constant and effortless is it referred to as Realisation.
*the ajnani is told to rest as stillness as this is the only means by which the true Self becomes obvious. However, Maharshi also states mind may continue for the Self-realised. This may sound like a contradiction, however just because the vast and spacious blue sky (Self) is recognised, it does not mean the clouds (thoughts) must disappear. And furthermore, "the Self alone remains for him", despite the thought clouds.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: January 30, 2018, 01:40:13 AM »
The obviousness of your true nature

D.: How to realise the Self?
RM.: It is already realised. One should know this simple fact. That is all.
D.: But I do not know it. How shall I know it?
RM.: Do you deny your existence?
D.: No, how can that be done?
RM.: Then the truth is admitted.

*Maharshi is saying that your very sense of existence or am-ness, is your true nature
D.: Is there thought in Samadhi? Or is there not?
RM.: There will only be the feeling 'I am' and no other thoughts.
D.: Is not 'I am' a thought?
RM.: The egoless 'I am' is not thought. It is realisation.

*recognising your very sense of existence or am-ness does not denote Realisation. Only when that am-ness is egoless is it referred to as Realisation. Ego-less can be defined as no I-thought.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Vichara
« on: January 28, 2018, 04:59:54 AM »
The obviousness of your true nature 

RM.: Know the pure state, your own real nature, by keenly observing the interval between two thoughts...This interval (is) the abiding, unchangeable reality, your true being.
RM.: If that mind-free consciousness, which is at the meeting point of deep sleep and waking, somehow becomes continuous, then the state that dawns is declared as deliverance (Realisation).
*recognising the interval as the abiding, unchangeable reality, your true being, does not denote deliverance, only when mind-free consciousness is continuous is it referred to as Realisation

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