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Ramana Maharshi => Ashrams => Topic started by: Jewell on September 14, 2012, 08:14:44 PM

Title: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on September 14, 2012, 08:14:44 PM
Dear friends,

I opened this topic because it would be nice to hear about impressions from travel to Tiruvannamalai,and Ramanashram.

Dear Subramanian sir,

You said that You were in Tiru,so i wish to know do You have some story from there to share,and what are Yours impressions. I am curious. :)
Sure,only if You have something to share.
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on September 14, 2012, 08:29:51 PM
Dear Jewel.

Normally I do not write an new posts in the Forum. I had taken this decision, after my 6000th post

If you still want to see my comments, about our  Tiru visit , please read David Godman's www.davidgodman. org.
Where I have posted under the caption DARSHAN OF LORD OF FIRE

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on September 14, 2012, 08:33:13 PM
Dear Jewell,

I am planning to go after few days, so once I go there I will share my new experiences.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on September 14, 2012, 09:01:14 PM
Dear Sri Subramanian sir,

Yes,i still want to see that post. I will find it and read it. Thank You!
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on September 14, 2012, 09:03:51 PM
Dear Vinod,

Great! I am glad that You are going,and waiting to hear what your impressions are. :)
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on October 02, 2012, 03:43:46 PM
Dear Jewell & others,

My trip has been well taken care by our arunachala and master. I have done pradakshina 2 times in 2 and half days i was present there. The pradakshina was really good this time coz it is winter over there and at the same time breezy as well. I have been to the main temple early morning by 5 AM and lucky enough to see and feed the holy cow entering the temple. I have never seen such pretty cow in my entire life. I have also been to Gurumurtham temple as suggested by Subramanian Ji and lucky enough to do puja in the evening to one of the ancient and sacred lingas by myself with out any priest. As mentioned previously by Subramanian, this temple is not very well taken care by and it makes even lucky for the devotees to offer puja to the lingam personally. So my request to any one reading this post and have plans to attend Trvnmlai in the future, please visit this ancient and sacred shiv ling and do your bit to gain inner satisfaction or blessings. I have also been to skandashramam early morning to see the prayer by swami but unfortunately he was not available on the day to do so. I coudnt dedicate much time to meditate coz my body was very tiered as I had less sleep since I have done pradakshina in nights, till early morning.

This time the hill seems to be full of greenery and I have never seen it like that before. I used to think the only reason why we have to carry torch light, is to get protected from stones or thorns on the road but I was mistaken until I have seen a snake crossing the road in the night while doing pradakshina and then started to get bothered a bit, as an other devotee also mentioned of scorpions being present some times, as it is a forest. This time new roads are being laid and also dustbins are placed for long distance, ensuring the path is clean and neat.

Its been great 2 and half days and did not realize how did it go as always. Thanks to Arunachala and our master for giving me the appointment for some time.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
   
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on October 02, 2012, 04:01:45 PM
Dear Vinod, Wonderfull!! You have got the darshan of a living Guru,Arunachala!:) And of Bhagavan too,coz He never left us! It is very interesting to read Your story,and everything what was happening there,especialy for me,coz i never been there,and i make pictures in my head,so it feels like i was there in some way. I only dont know how will i react when i see those snakes. :) I am Very happy for You dear Vinod,and i cant wait to hear more stories from Arunachala from You! Wish You the Very Best!
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on October 02, 2012, 08:26:35 PM
Dear Vinod,

I am very happy to note your visit to T'malai. Let Bhagavan's Blessings continue to shower on you.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: deepa on October 03, 2012, 01:57:23 AM

This may sound shallow when we are discussing the divine atmosphere of the ashram. But for me and my family, it was a lesson in tolerance ("titiksha") to visit the ashram. It reminded me and taught my children to reduce the importance we give to physical comforts.

It brought tears to my eyes to see my 3 US-born children (ages 9,7 and 3) sit on the floor, wait patiently for the food, eat with hands from a leaf under the photo of Bhagawan. Also, when we went inside the Virupaksha cave, it was so hot and stuffy and everybody was perspiring. However, all 3 of them sat quietly for several minutes. I can understand Bhagawan was beyond this, but seeing many people in the cave now was very inspiring.

Going inside the cave, seeing the patala lingam where Bhagawan stayed for a while, walking near the elephant where also Bhagawan slept - all of this does reinforce forbearance in us. We all consciously remember and talk about it when we feel like complaining about weather or anything else.

I still have mixed opinions about barefeet girivalam.. I did it barefeet and my husband wore shoes, however, the pain over the next few days did make it unpleasant for me. 
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on October 03, 2012, 11:59:50 AM
Dear Deepa,

Nice to know the story of visiting the Asramam with young children.

Regarding bare-foot giri pradakshina, this is what is prescribed in Arunachala Mahatmyam. No doubt, it is painful
for people who are not used to it.  Either one has to put up with it or avoid giri pradakshina.

Arunachala Siva. 
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on October 06, 2012, 05:35:46 PM
Dear Deepa,

Beautiful to read all experiences and impressions from Tiruvannamalai! I can feel that Divine atmosphere while watching videos from Ashram and Arunachala,and i can only imagine the feeling when someone is physically present there...
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on October 06, 2012, 07:44:30 PM
It is very interesting to read Your story,and everything what was happening there,especialy for me,coz i never been there,and i make pictures in my head,so it feels like i was there in some way. I only dont know how will i react when i see those snakes. :)

Dear Jewell,

I understand that you have never been to the heart of spirituality(Arunachala) but I am sure, u are one among the lucky ones to hear, think and speak about Arunachala. U being a foreigner now know about master and our father arunachala which is not a small thing coz there are many people in southern part of India including tamil nadu doesnt know much about this place or dont know anything about our master which is surprising. So even imagining when we share our experiences about Arunachala will help you in attaining liberation and never feel disappointed that you are not able to visit coz for every thing a time has to come and I am sure one day even your time will come with the blessings of our two eyes (one our master and the other our arunachala).

Speaking about girivalam barefoot, it is not so tough on the first day but very tough to repeat it any time between next 2 days coz your feet still has some pain. I had lot of pain on the second time but somehow I completed it by praying when ever I was in pain. The main thing is, always have good and long sleep after girivalam, it will help your body to rejuvenate. 

Regarding snakes or any creature, we should not be concerned coz if we dont bother them, they dont bother us and must always remember that "we are the trespassers but not not they".

Thank you so much dear, for your kind wishes and cheering for me as well.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!   
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on October 06, 2012, 07:45:38 PM
Dear Vinod,

I am very happy to note your visit to T'malai. Let Bhagavan's Blessings continue to shower on you.

Arunachala Siva.

Dear Subramanian,

Thank you so much sir!

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on October 06, 2012, 08:04:36 PM
Dear Jewell and others,

This time I had a funny experience when I was at punchamukha view of the hill. It was around 12.15 AM and I was watching the hill and it was very beautiful with moon on top of it, as if it is (moon) playing hide n seek game with clouds and the whole view was very beautiful. It was very silent with nobody around. All of a sudden a devotee has come on byke and started praying in such a funny way that its still stuck in my mind. It seems may be he doesnt know any prayers or songs and he just said few names of saints and arunachala that he knew. He also sung a song from the movie Arunachalam (rajni kanth). He repeated those few names so many times in such a way that, it was very funny. When I say its funny, I dont mean to disrespect his devotion coz his love for the arunachala was very much present and it also shows his innocence. After some time I left and he was still there praying in the same way.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!

 
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on October 06, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
Dear Vinod,

There are important places to be seen, apart from 8 Lingams in giri Pradakshina road. One is Panchamukha Darsnam, another is
Nandi mukha Darsnam, the third is is viewing summit from Ner Annamalai Temple, then Isanya desikar's Samadhi (he attained
Jiva Samadhi), then is the idukku pillaiyar kovil. Here through a hole from behind the structure, one has to enter the same and
come out from the outer hole. Only who are lean can do that., It is believed that all diseases would be cured out of this
exercise.

I have seen people keeping an incense stick and walking. I have also seen people giving Re 1 to each alms seeker on the way.

Arunachala Siva.           
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on October 07, 2012, 12:42:58 AM
It is very interesting to read Your story,and everything what was happening there,especialy for me,coz i never been there,and i make pictures in my head,so it feels like i was there in some way. I only dont know how will i react when i see those snakes. :)

Dear Jewell,

I understand that you have never been to the heart of spirituality(Arunachala) but I am sure, u are one among the lucky ones to hear, think and speak about Arunachala. U being a foreigner now know about master and our father arunachala which is not a small thing coz there are many people in southern part of India including tamil nadu doesnt know much about this place or dont know anything about our master which is surprising. So even imagining when we share our experiences about Arunachala will help you in attaining liberation and never feel disappointed that you are not able to visit coz for every thing a time has to come and I am sure one day even your time will come with the blessings of our two eyes (one our master and the other our arunachala).

Speaking about girivalam barefoot, it is not so tough on the first day but very tough to repeat it any time between next 2 days coz your feet still has some pain. I had lot of pain on the second time but somehow I completed it by praying when ever I was in pain. The main thing is, always have good and long sleep after girivalam, it will help your body to rejuvenate. 

Regarding snakes or any creature, we should not be concerned coz if we dont bother them, they dont bother us and must always remember that "we are the trespassers but not not they".

Thank you so much dear, for your kind wishes and cheering for me as well.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!   

Thank You Very much dear Vinod,for those kind and beautiful words! I am sure the time will come when i will visit Arunachala also,and see all that by myself. :) In the mean time i will enjoy reading everything about that,coz even if i am faraway,Arunachala and Bhagavan are Always in my heart. They Are my Heart.
Thank You again for beautiful,comforting and supporting words!!!

Dear Jewell and others,

This time I had a funny experience when I was at punchamukha view of the hill. It was around 12.15 AM and I was watching the hill and it was very beautiful with moon on top of it, as if it is (moon) playing hide n seek game with clouds and the whole view was very beautiful. It was very silent with nobody around. All of a sudden a devotee has come on byke and started praying in such a funny way that its still stuck in my mind. It seems may be he doesnt know any prayers or songs and he just said few names of saints and arunachala that he knew. He also sung a song from the movie Arunachalam (rajni kanth). He repeated those few names so many times in such a way that, it was very funny. When I say its funny, I dont mean to disrespect his devotion coz his love for the arunachala was very much present and it also shows his innocence. After some time I left and he was still there praying in the same way.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!

 

That is truly funny!  :D And very beautiful too,coz,like You said innocence and His love are most important things. Sweet and funny! :)

Thank You for sharing all this,dear Vinod!
Wish You All the Best from All my Heart!
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: ksksat27 on October 08, 2012, 05:00:28 PM
whenever I visit Arunachala experience will be mostly unique to that trip.

Most of the time  my mind will be restless and all desires,  fears will come out very liberally.

I will be buying some books either at Ramasramam or at the opposite shop.

I did only once giri pradakshina but with chappals only.

Somehow eiether stay or food at Sri Ramasramam has not worked out yet.

My favourite spots are the holy tree inside temple,   old meditation hall,  adi annamalai.

In one of the trips I paid Rs 250/- for seeing the evening holy abhisekam.

Even though weather will be hot I like it at Annamalai somehow.

Last trip when I went on Sep 22, 23,  I bought a beautiful book called Truth that summarized Papaji's teachings and prescription on various sadhanas.

I will not love Arunachala in the common sense by taking some liberty on him whenever I go there,  I will mostly try to keep an element of fear within me.

I have gone only once to skandashram and virupaksha cave.

I planning to visit Hill top once and also Pachiamman temple.







Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on October 08, 2012, 11:18:37 PM
Dear ksksat27,

Quote
"Most of the time  my mind will be restless and all desires,  fears will come out very liberally.

That was my biggest fear,whenever i think about Arunachala and my coming. That fear was constantly there,first from Arunachala itself,and later only from my self,how will i act,think,feel... But,somehow,i dont have it anymore. Now i have only friendly feeling,and wish to come there. I hope i will...
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: ksksat27 on October 09, 2012, 10:26:20 AM

This may sound shallow when we are discussing the divine atmosphere of the ashram. But for me and my family, it was a lesson in tolerance ("titiksha") to visit the ashram. It reminded me and taught my children to reduce the importance we give to physical comforts.

It brought tears to my eyes to see my 3 US-born children (ages 9,7 and 3) sit on the floor, wait patiently for the food, eat with hands from a leaf under the photo of Bhagawan. Also, when we went inside the Virupaksha cave, it was so hot and stuffy and everybody was perspiring. However, all 3 of them sat quietly for several minutes. I can understand Bhagawan was beyond this, but seeing many people in the cave now was very inspiring.

Going inside the cave, seeing the patala lingam where Bhagawan stayed for a while, walking near the elephant where also Bhagawan slept - all of this does reinforce forbearance in us. We all consciously remember and talk about it when we feel like complaining about weather or anything else.

I still have mixed opinions about barefeet girivalam.. I did it barefeet and my husband wore shoes, however, the pain over the next few days did make it unpleasant for me.

Dear Deepa

No hard feelings,  just wanted to share my opinion openly.

I have seen people who come to arunachala not ready to leave their social status even for a period of 3 days.

I think problem is,  we have accumulated lot of physical comforts,  spent a lot of time in career and earning wherein Bhagavan's life style was to keep things very simple,   toil yourself less,  have less and be contended.

Somehow we have landed into the liking for chillness,  weather,  comforts etc.  So even when we want to live for a month in arunachala, our body and mind simply dont  cooperate.

But I could not understand why you had tears when you see your US born children wait for the food.  It was a conscious decision to stay in ashram and you could have opted to stay in a resort also .  There are many Inn type residencies where you can cook your food in micro wave,  it has a small fridge,   AC in generator etc.

So my point is,  I feel we should decide first itself and then should not feel that we dont have the comforts.

Its not about you only,  many people has this problem.

I have seen both comforts and discomforts in my life -- not poverty but rural life and discomforts I had plenty.   So what I feel is this:   if we want luxury,  we have to complicate the life with many cares,  24 X 7 career orietned and career driven lifestyle etc.

But there will be no peace of mind .   

If we want peace of mind,  we have to be contended with a rural life,  weather may be hot but the city life style's mental torture will not be there.

Anycase,   I think we are somewhat humble and started to appreciate the spiritual values --  sooner or later the cycle of birth and death will end for us.

Sorry if I hurt you,  but I am generally commenting on people's mentality.


Also walking barefoot is near to impossible --  I dont think we should strain ourself like that to impress Arunachala.  Whatever we can do ,  we have to do,  thats it.
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: ksksat27 on October 09, 2012, 11:09:09 AM
Dear ksksat27,

Quote
"Most of the time  my mind will be restless and all desires,  fears will come out very liberally.

That was my biggest fear,whenever i think about Arunachala and my coming. That fear was constantly there,first from Arunachala itself,and later only from my self,how will i act,think,feel... But,somehow,i dont have it anymore. Now i have only friendly feeling,and wish to come there. I hope i will...

Dear Jewell,

Better please dont postpone this trip to Arunachala.   Which country you are living and do you face finance problem to come to India?


Anycase please pray for a quicker trip.


Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on October 09, 2012, 01:45:06 PM
Dear Krishnan,

Once an identical question came from a devotee to Sri Bhagavan: He said: O Bhagavan! Whenever I come to
Arunachala, all my desires, vasanas etc. come out in great force.  Sri Bhagavan relplied: Don't worry. Whatever
is there inside should come out only like this. Slowly all these vasanas will dry up and one will be free!


Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on October 10, 2012, 12:08:04 AM
Dear ksksat27,

Quote
"Most of the time  my mind will be restless and all desires,  fears will come out very liberally.

That was my biggest fear,whenever i think about Arunachala and my coming. That fear was constantly there,first from Arunachala itself,and later only from my self,how will i act,think,feel... But,somehow,i dont have it anymore. Now i have only friendly feeling,and wish to come there. I hope i will...

Dear Jewell,

Better please dont postpone this trip to Arunachala.   Which country you are living and do you face finance problem to come to India?


Anycase please pray for a quicker trip.

Dear ksksat27,

Thank You for those kind words,and advice! I see it like blessing. Thank You!!!

I live in Serbia,Balkan,ex Yugoslavia. There is,sure,finance problem,but i dont see it that way. I can menage,but i am not sure if that is what i need to do. How to say,i live like that,that i try not to pursue anything by myself,then that what is needed,coz everything i need come by itself. And more then that! I am taking that much which is necessary for me,not searching for,if that ask for too much struggle. I saw that it is like that with me. I learned to wait opportunities,coz i saw many times that,that is what i need to do.
In the same manner,i wait that opportunity for coming there,and i am sure that would come if that was needed. Always come,whatever wish i have. And this wish is growing and growing with each day. I somehow think,that when the time is right,solution will come. I have solution even now,but i wait for some sort of sign,how to say,without struggle. Sometimes,i am in fear to wish too much,coz i dont know truly what is best for me in some moment. :) So i left that to Bhagavan and Arunachala.

But,maybe You are right,i should see to come sooner. Because,like i said,that longing is bigger with each day... I will see what will happen,and i hope that soon i will put my impressions here. :)
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on October 13, 2012, 03:25:03 PM
That was my biggest fear,whenever i think about Arunachala and my coming. That fear was constantly there,first from Arunachala itself,and later only from my self,how will i act,think,feel... But,somehow,i dont have it anymore. Now i have only friendly feeling,and wish to come there. I hope i will...

Dear Jewell,

Likewise even I used to fear a bit when ever I used to visit godess durga/kali maata temple, since this godess has many ferocious avataar's when killing demons and many people who perform black magic or vodoo stuff worship this god and  used to fear looking at her ferocious avataars but due to one of my bengali friend (bengali's main god is durga maata) I started worshiping her as well. Now we have devi navraatri festival coming soon, were most of the people from the east, north and Hyderabad in south celebrate this festival grandly.

During this festival we have godess being worshiped for 9 days with special pujas and entire family including girlfriends can go and participate in a dance called dandiya before god and have great fun along with blessings. So its gonna be great 9 days with devotion, fun and very colourful treditional dressing for both men and women.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!   
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on October 13, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
Dear Jewell,

What is the fear of a young housewife going to her Mother's place. Sri Bhagavan is Mother, Father, Guru and God. You need not
have any fear in going to the Asramam. You will be feeling quite comfortable and you will attending to the various daily routines
with all happiness and peace would pervade you all through.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on October 13, 2012, 03:59:35 PM
But,maybe You are right,i should see to come sooner. Because,like i said,that longing is bigger with each day... I will see what will happen,and i hope that soon i will put my impressions here. :)

Dear Jewell,

What i think is, don't be desperate to come soon or try too hard, as what ever you may try and if it is not your turn, you will never come and if it is your turn to come, what ever hurdle you face, you will over come that like walking on flowers and you will be there in the arms of Arunachala. This is my personal experience.

I had one of my friend his name is Gokul and he had many personal problems and looking at me he said, one day he will also accompany me to Arunachala. When the time has come to go, one of his family member was no more and he has to cancel his trip. This is not to scare you, but its just his wish when to call us and when the time comes money, air tickets, help and every thing will be there for you.

My other recent experience was just few days back when I was planning to visit. I did not have money in my a/c but i had liquid cash (physical cash). I thought its not safe to carry cash with me as it may be risky and the bank was also very far(30KM) from my house to go and deposit in my a/c. I was very confused what to do, wait for few days or go to the bank and deposit. Next day morning my bro called from US and he said he will be transferring me some money to take care of his bills. I was so excited that I said, I will pay them with my liquid money and use the a/c money for my trip, for which he had no issues.  Then immediate next day I booked tickets, room and everything was fine. So just relax and wait for your turn with prayers in your heart.
   
This is just my opinion and not to give any contrary comments to KSK.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!   
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on October 13, 2012, 07:21:58 PM
That was my biggest fear,whenever i think about Arunachala and my coming. That fear was constantly there,first from Arunachala itself,and later only from my self,how will i act,think,feel... But,somehow,i dont have it anymore. Now i have only friendly feeling,and wish to come there. I hope i will...

Dear Jewell,

Likewise even I used to fear a bit when ever I used to visit godess durga/kali maata temple, since this godess has many ferocious avataar's when killing demons and many people who perform black magic or vodoo stuff worship this god and  used to fear looking at her ferocious avataars but due to one of my bengali friend (bengali's main god is durga maata) I started worshiping her as well. Now we have devi navraatri festival coming soon, were most of the people from the east, north and Hyderabad in south celebrate this festival grandly.

During this festival we have godess being worshiped for 9 days with special pujas and entire family including girlfriends can go and participate in a dance called dandiya before god and have great fun along with blessings. So its gonna be great 9 days with devotion, fun and very colourful treditional dressing for both men and women.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!   

Dear Vinod,

It is funny,but i was scared of Avatars of Kali too. :) When i remember that,it puts smile on my face. I didnt know much about that,i didnt understand,and thats why i feared. But now,it is completely different. The moment i understand that,the fear is gone.

And i must say that i adore Your festivals. Absolutely beautiful decorations,with so much flowers and colors! I didnt saw something like that anywhere else. Real enjoyment for the eyes. Also that traditional,truly wonderful,charming,lovely traditional dressing! Truly Beautiful!!!

Quote
"What i think is, don't be desperate to come soon or try too hard, as what ever you may try and if it is not your turn, you will never come and if it is your turn to come, what ever hurdle you face, you will over come that like walking on flowers and you will be there in the arms of Arunachala. This is my personal experience.

I think that too. Somehow,everything unfolds when something needs to happen. At least it is like that in my life. I believe god have some good reason to keep me here,and everything in its own time. Whenever i come,it will be perfect time. Bhagavan and Arunachala are anyway Always with me.

Your example is showing beautifuly everything i think about all this. Wonderful! :)

Thank You so much for sharing all this, dear Vinod!

Wish You the Very,Very Best!
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on October 13, 2012, 07:24:40 PM
Dear Jewell,

What is the fear of a young housewife going to her Mother's place. Sri Bhagavan is Mother, Father, Guru and God. You need not
have any fear in going to the Asramam. You will be feeling quite comfortable and you will attending to the various daily routines
with all happiness and peace would pervade you all through.

Arunachala Siva.

Dear Sri Subramanian sir,

Indeed there should not be any fear. And it is past now,why should i fear of coming Home!! I believe too it will be very peaceful and beautiful experience.
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on October 13, 2012, 08:09:50 PM
Dear Vinod,

There are important places to be seen, apart from 8 Lingams in giri Pradakshina road. One is Panchamukha Darsnam, another is
Nandi mukha Darsnam, the third is is viewing summit from Ner Annamalai Temple, then Isanya desikar's Samadhi (he attained
Jiva Samadhi), then is the idukku pillaiyar kovil. Here through a hole from behind the structure, one has to enter the same and
come out from the outer hole. Only who are lean can do that., It is believed that all diseases would be cured out of this
exercise.

I have seen people keeping an incense stick and walking. I have also seen people giving Re 1 to each alms seeker on the way.

Arunachala Siva.         

Dear Subramanian,

I remember seeing nandi mukha view only on my maiden visit but not any other time, coz most of the times I have done pradakshina during night times, so I missed it. I have also never been to Virupaksha cave and I will not miss it next time. idukku pillaiyar kovil, I have seen people going through but never tried it, but I will try it next time coz I am not so heavy.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on October 13, 2012, 08:15:12 PM
Dear vinod,

If you go for giri pradkashina, in the day time, you can see;

1. Nandi muka darsana.
2. Panchamukha darsana - the view of five hills.
3.  Ner Annamlai tempe where Devi, did tapas to get the half of the form of Siva.
4.  Idukku Pillaiyar temple.
5. Isanya Desikar Math, where this great soul attained jiva samadhi and his body itself had disappeared from the room.

Arunachala Siva.
 
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on October 13, 2012, 08:24:48 PM
Also walking barefoot is near to impossible --  I dont think we should strain ourself like that to impress Arunachala.  Whatever we can do ,  we have to do,  thats it.

Dear KSK,

Thats true but still it is not so tuff coz as suggested by our master, one can hire a cab or any vehicle to reduce the pain by covering some distance or one can also do it through installments. So there are many concessions given by our master and the main point is, if the pradakshina is a easy stuff there would be no meaning in it and one can never gain self realization or moksha by doing so  . Not only about arunachala there are many other places like Tirupathi, Chilkur Balaji Temple in hyderabad etc all are painful practices but not easy stuff. Thats why what ever the case our master always insisted on girivalam.

As per below comments there are people who have done things which are way beyond our imaginations. We must take them as inspiration and must try to do little or basic things which can be possible with us.

Dear All,

Talking about giri pradakshina, one Western lady, during one of the last two years, did body pradakshina of the Hill !!
She rolled on the outer path and completed a rolling pradakshina in one full day.

Muruganar did giri pradakshina for 48 days continuously. He said after covering some distance, he had lost body
consciousness and was walking with inner voice guiding him.

One Deiva Sikamani Desikar of the past, did giri pradakshina, with chanting of 100 times Nama Sivaya, for each step.
I am not sure how many days he took to complete it.

Arunachala Siva.     

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on October 13, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Dear Vinod,

I agree. This should be the goal. Even if we do not do it,. perhaps, one day we can do it. All goals are set only for our
trying whether we can do it.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on October 13, 2012, 08:33:32 PM
Dear vinod,

If you go for giri pradkashina, in the day time, you can see;

1. Nandi muka darsana.
2. Panchamukha darsana - the view of five hills.
3.  Ner Annamlai tempe where Devi, did tapas to get the half of the form of Siva.
4.  Idukku Pillaiyar temple.
5. Isanya Desikar Math, where this great soul attained jiva samadhi and his body itself had disappeared from the room.

Arunachala Siva.

Haan Ji,

But last time I thought of being at Isanya desikar samadhi but since it was late night I was not sure where it is. I tried looking for it opposite esanya lingam but i could only find small burrial ground and later I did not have time to visit post girivalam, so i missed it.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
Title: Re: Impessions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: latha on October 13, 2012, 09:06:29 PM
Dear Subramanianji, Jewellji,

Something I read about Arunachala made me fear briefly that it would bring out the worst in me.  But immediately I had the same thought that Subramanianji has mentioned, namely,  Bhagavan is Father, Mother, Guru - what harm can come to me when I am at home.

Most important, Jewellji, it  is  a big blessing that you have Bhagavan and Arunachala in your heart. When the time comes you will go to the physical place. I was terrified to take a long flight with my hyperactive son but Bhagavan gave me the strength and the trip went very well.

Om Namo Bhagavathe Sri Ramanaya
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on October 14, 2012, 12:59:59 AM
Dear lathaji, Thank You Very much for these comforting words!! Yes,Bhagavan and Arunachala are Always in my heart,and that is most important. When the time come,with Blessings and Guru Grace,i will come there. Like in Your case,Bhagavan will take care of everything. Wish You All the Best!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on November 22, 2012, 12:32:31 PM
Dear lathaji, Thank You Very much for these comforting words!! Yes,Bhagavan and Arunachala are Always in my heart,and that is most important. When the time come,with Blessings and Guru Grace,i will come there. Like in Your case,Bhagavan will take care of everything. Wish You All the Best!

Yes Jewell

When time comes things will happen on its own .
Visiting Arunachala and doing Giri Pradakshina  and staying at Ramana Maharshi Ashram and Meditating at the Old Hall  is just one way of showing our respects to them (i.e Bhagwan,Arunacahala ) but that need not be the only way . Bhagwan has left his wonderful works in Tamil and Sanskrit that you can chant them  or listen to them daily ( mostly are available for free download from the Ramana Ashram website ) , or read Bhagwan's Books in English by his close devotees i.e dialogues with Bhagwan etc and all these activities will keep you in touch with Bhagwan wherever you are and when the time is ripe , you will be able to visit here .
My suggestion is that you have a formal Bhagwan Satsang in your house once a week :
This is the link to how to have a Ramana Satsang .
http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/ramanasatsang.html (http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/ramanasatsang.html)
Do not bother if you do not have friends /family members to take part in this .It is enough you start this satsang alone with urself and Bhagwan's picture in front of you .Today is auspicious day Guru's day and you can start it today and keep it every thursday and who knows soon how many people will join it .Satsang has a mysterious power . I know of one Zen teacher in America , a lady who used to do a zen satsang alone for many days in her room alone  but used to prepare the room as though many people will come ,first few weeks no one tuned up and slowly one by one people started coming and it became a big group . I have similar such stories .The intention here is not to attract a crowd but to keep the spirit of Bhagwan in your life and attract like minded people to it .
This is a  just a friendly advice .If you are already doing such a thing or related activity then do not worry ,carry on with whatever you are doing .
Om Peace .

Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on November 22, 2012, 12:41:40 PM
Dear Atmavichar100,

Yes. Holding Satsanghs in the house or in some places in one's town, with like minded people  is also an excellent idea to
continue unfailingly our remembrance of Sri Bhagavan.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on November 22, 2012, 12:58:16 PM
Dear Atmavichar100,

Yes. Holding Satsanghs in the house or in some places in one's town, with like minded people  is also an excellent idea to
continue unfailingly our remembrance of Sri Bhagavan.

Arunachala Siva.

Yes Subramaniam Sir

That is what I am doing myself ( I have visited Arunachala , Ramana Ashram many times but no more inclined to visit ) and try to now have regular satsang at my own house informally .I choose the time 6.45p.m- 7.30 p.m in evening ,the time of Tamil Parayana at Ramana Ashram and keep chanting Arunachala Stuti Panchakam and on Sat chant Ramana Stuti Panchakam . Slowly I intend to memorize the other Tamil works and follow the same Mon- Sat routine of Tamil Parayana at my house at the same time .If the time does not work it does not matter but I have kept in my mind  that I spend 30-45 mts daily with some work of Bhagwan with full focus .
I suggest the same to others i.e instead of breaking your head about how to go ,when to go etc etc ( for some it is logistic problem ,for some financial problem ,for some time problem ,for some family problem and for some a combination of all above ) .Some complain that there is no Ramana Satsang in their City or even if it is it is too far from their house etc etc  .Do not wait for motivation from outside ,just start some satsang activity in your own apartment even if it is a small single bedroom apartment and then leave the rest to Bhagwan  as Bhagwan does not care about formality etc .All you need is a Picture of Bhagwan and you can play the chants on your computer /laptop/MP3 player , sit silently , switch off your mobiles, internet  and follow the chants for 30-45mts with uninterrupted focus  and maintain it on a regular basis  and see how it keeps moving you .
In conclusion : Bring Bahgwan and Arunachala in to your own house and that can be done through Ramana Satsang
Om Peace .
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on November 22, 2012, 01:09:54 PM
Dear atmavichar100,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan Himself has lauded Satsangh (union with Sat, i.e. like minded people. or in your own home with a sattvic
disposition in your heart), in Verse  4 of Forty Verses, Supplement.

Fever is overcome by the cool light of the moon; want by the good wish yielding tree, Karpaga tree; and sin by the Holy Ganga.
Those three - fever, want, and sin all flee at the august sight of the peerless sage.

Arunachala Siva.     
 
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on November 22, 2012, 03:46:27 PM
Subramaniam Sir

Even Adi Shankara has said a similar thing about Satsangha in his Bhaja Govindam :

Sat-sangatve nissangatvam nissangatve nirmohatvam
Nirmohatve nishchala-tattvam nishchala-tattve jivanmuktih


Satsangga i.e Good and virtuous company gives rise to non-attachment. From non-attachment comes freedom from delusion. With freedom from delusion, one feels the changeless reality. Experiencing that changeless reality, one attains liberation in this life.

Adi Shankara in Bhaja Govindam

I remember even Bhagwan saying in one of the advice for a spiritual aspirant i.e first step is satsangha and rest will follow accordingly .
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on November 22, 2012, 04:46:07 PM
Dear atmavichar100, I am reading this beautiful and encouraging words of Yours,and i must say they deeply touched my heart.. That good intention an kindness. And they are Blessings from Bhagavan Himself! I dont have formal satsang,how to say,but my way of satsang and comunion with Bhagavan. :) And this forum i look like satsang too. I feel Bhagavan is with us Here. I always felt,we dont need to go anywhere,we are always with Him. Where is place for distance,when Guru is my own Heart. But,somehow,more and more,i long to be with Arunachala. I cannot explane that feeling. I guess it is coming from Bhagavan Himself. But,in mean time i will be with them like You sugested,and we will see what they have prepared for me. :) Thank You from All my Heart,my friend! With love and prayers,
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on November 22, 2012, 06:46:01 PM
Jewell

Happy that you found my post encouraging . Keep it up and keep the spirit of Bhagwan in your life in what ever way you want and he will guide you accordingly .
Om Peace .
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Balaji on November 22, 2012, 11:47:00 PM
Dear Atmavichar100

Very nice to read your writings about Satsangha.

Regarding my family , My daughter, my son and me , maximum we sit for 15 minutes silently, every Thursday between 6.30 to 8.30, if it is not possible, we do some other days.  Just we hear Arunachala Siva, Arunachala Siva, Arunachala  chanted by  Selvi Saindhavi or by Smt.Saroja Natarajan.

May Lord Arunachala Showers his grance on you
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on November 23, 2012, 05:06:26 AM
Jewell

Happy that you found my post encouraging . Keep it up and keep the spirit of Bhagwan in your life in what ever way you want and he will guide you accordingly .
Om Peace .

Dear atmavichar100,

Thank You Very much one,and thousand times more,for truly Beautiful words!

Regarding Satsang with Bhagavan,i have a picture of Bhagavan in my room,and sometimes i just watch Him,sometimes talk to Him. But Your advice i find to be very good. And the misterious and beautiful thing i wish to share about that picture. I rearly talk much about my path to anyone around me,about Bhagavan and God i talk,but that much what is needed only.,and when i am that much entusiastic that i cant be silent. But,people been curious by nature,always wanted to know what i read,and now and then they look on computer and see. And all coments were: Stop reading that. Why You read that stuff?,etc.,all sort of coments. But from moment i put picture of Bhagavan,who ever enters my room,my familly,my friends,anyone,i find them all just staring at Bhagavan,not saying anything. No one dared to ask or coment anything. Not even Who is this man.  :) I find that truly Amazing!

Such is the Power and the Greatness of our Guru,our Father!!!

(http://www.ptmistlberger.com/resources/bhagavan_sri_ramana_maharshi_14.jpg?timestamp=1338604962284)
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on November 23, 2012, 07:21:45 AM
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Such is the Power and the Greatness of our Guru,our Father!!!

Dear Jewell , Balaji

Bhagwan needs no formality with regard to how we worship him .We can chant his songs , or chant the Maha Mantra "Arunachala Siva" or just sit in silence in front of his pic .When true devotion is there method of expression does not matter much .
Formality of Satsang is only to see to it that we do not slip down due to the force of Maya .
So invoke Bhagwan in what ever way you feel like . Bhagwan understand our hearts better  .
Om Peace .
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on November 23, 2012, 12:38:55 PM
Dear Jewell, atmavichar100,

Yes. Gazing at His photo with out even a thought or with some mantra within lips is one of the best sadhana.

Incidentally, how many of you look the webcam photo of Arunachala on a day? Once? Twice? Or more?

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on November 23, 2012, 12:54:03 PM
Dear Jewell, atmavichar100,

Yes. Gazing at His photo with out even a thought or with some mantra within lips is one of the best sadhana.

Incidentally, how many of you look the webcam photo of Arunachala on a day? Once? Twice? Or more?

Arunachala Siva.

Subramaniam Sir

I do not look at the webcam daily but I have downloaded a pic of Arunachala and Bhagwan Ramana in my computer  that I look at it some times but I always visualize Bhagwan Ramana and Arunachala before I start to chant Shiva Sahasranama and Arunachala Akshara Mana Malai .
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: swayam on November 23, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Whats the link for that webcam photo of Arunahchala ?

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on November 23, 2012, 01:10:09 PM
Dear swayam,

The photos of the Hill are appearing every 60 seconds in this same site if you click the "Arunachala Webcam."  Sometimes,
the photo is not updated due to weather conditions or some repairs in the system. There are two cameras installed where
one can see the webcam photo of the Hill in full distant view or a closer view. The closer view photos show the Hill as full of \
rocks, and slopes and shelf rocks - like our mind.

Arunachala Siva.
   
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: swayam on November 23, 2012, 01:14:35 PM
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Thanks Sir

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on November 23, 2012, 02:50:21 PM
Dear Sri Subramanian sir, I dont look at web cam everyday. Sometimes only. But i have on Bhagavan picture Arunachala also,and i mostly look on that one,or watching videos from Arunachala.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Mannu on December 12, 2012, 06:37:29 PM

Hello All,

We visited T'malai on 1-Dec-2012 (saturday) by taking afternoon KSRTC Bus of 1:00 PM,  boarding at Satellite Bus Stand. Reached
T'malai at 7 pm. Took an auto(he over-charged us) and reached one lodge, where there were no rooms available. This lodge owner
directed us to another one, where we thankfully got one room. We have to bargain for the room and settle it to Rs.500/-.

From the room the temple was at a walkabale distance for about 7 minutes. After getting refreshed, we left the room at 8.30 pm
for the evening darshan of Lord Shiva. We came out of the temple at 10:10 pm. At that hour many road-side food stalls had closed.
We settled for dosas from one of the stalls who was preparing food at that odd-hour.

Since we dont know Tamil, it was very difficult to understand the language in the lodge and also with roadside stalls, lamp sellers etc

Next morning, (2-Dec Sunday) we again had darshan of Lord Shiva. Had breakfast in nearby restaurant. We roamed around near the temple and also walked to the Bus Stand to just check the distance of it from the Temple. By then it was 2 pm and the climate was scorching hot. We got back to the room to rest.

In the evening we again visited the Big Temple and witnessed the light that is lit on the peak of Arunachala Hill. This was a co-incidence
as we didnt know that the peak of Arunachala is lit for 10 days from Karthik Deepam day. It was good spiritual darshan witnessing
Arunachala with the divine light. We also lit a lamp in the temple campus. We didnt stand in queue for the darshan as we had already
 lit our lamp and had to proceed towards the lodge to check-out at 7:45 pm. After we checked-out we walked towards Bus stand
(without hiring auto) and waited for Bangalore Bus. When we checked in KSRTC Counter only 10:45 pm bus was available
and we have to book immediately in advance or else it will also get full. I hurriedly booked it and boarded 10:45 pm bus and landed in Bangalore at around 4.30 am. on 3-Dec (Monday). After some rest, (though I felt sleepy all day due to travel), I attended office that day.

One of the regret we had that we haven't visited Ramana Maharishi Ashram. If the Lord wills we surely will next time. I had read and knew about Girivallam (Mountain circumabulation) on Full Moon Day. But was sceptical whether we can do it in other days as well. Later I came to know that it can be done on any day but only the Full Moon Day is considered as a special day.

In all, we had a satisfying spiritual week-end.

Warm Wishes, Om Namah Shivaya,

Mannu  :)
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on December 12, 2012, 09:18:00 PM
Dear Mannu, I am very happy to read Your experiences and that You had very satisfying time on Arunachala. Also,nice to know about all things which happened,about traveling and room booking. It can be very useful for us who will come there for the first time. With love and prayers,
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on December 13, 2012, 03:01:04 AM
Dear Mannu,

Very glad to know your visit to Tiruvannamalai and Big Temple. Next time when you go, you visit the Asramam also. God's Grace
and Guru's Grace -- both are equally important. You can do girivalam on any day, preferably go in a group, late in the evening, so
that the heat will not affect you.

Welcome to the Forum.


Arunachala Siva.     
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Mannu on December 13, 2012, 03:19:03 PM

Thanks Jewell and Subra for the responses.

1.  I would like to know how far is Ramana Ashram from T'malai  bus stand and/or from the Main Temple. Can we
go by walk or we have to necessarily take an Auto.

2. If we can perform GiriVallam on any day, preferably at night (to avoid heat), will the path be well-lit? I heard and read that during
Full-Moon day the entire path is well-light by sodium-vapour lamps. Is the path lit every night or only on Full Moon Days.

Please advice.

Mannu  :)

Om Namah Shivaya.

Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on December 13, 2012, 04:11:53 PM
Dear Mannu,

You can take an auto and go to Sri Ramanasramam. That will be better.

Girivalam can be performed on any night. Lightings are there. Still you have to go in a group of 2 or 3. Don't take it alone.
Similarly, if ladies are accompanying, it is better to go with a group of males also together.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on December 25, 2012, 02:28:45 AM
Dear Jewell,

By our almighty's grace I will travell to our home tomarrow and once I am back I will surely share my experiences.

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on December 25, 2012, 06:44:38 PM
Dear Vinod,

Thats great!  :) I am happy You are going to our Father.

Have a safe journey,and beautiful and peaceful time on Arunachala! Enjoy!  :)

With love and prayers,
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on December 30, 2012, 04:28:36 AM
Dear Jewell & others,

By our Arunachala's grace I have completed my journey. This was the first time I travelled by bus from Hyd to Tvnmlai. The journey is much better then other modes like Air or Train (only from Hyd) as it is very time saving. It took just 11 hours which is very productive.

Unfortunately I am not accustomed for the bus journey and the whole night was very terrible & I could barely sleep for 2 hours Max!. I reached our home in the wee hours of 26th and slept for very long time, as I felt very sick. I woke in the late afternoon by 2.00 PM and post lunch, I visited ashramam and had very good after meditation & had mesmirizing time in ashram. During the late evening I have been to the temple & It was good being there, like always. I came to the room and couldnt able to sleep, as I was feeling very hungry, so I decided to go out @ 11.45 PM and it was very breezy. I walked till Yama lingam from Ramanashramam & I could only find 2 groups during my walk, as it was just a day before full moon & I was thinking "man just 24hrs & the seen will be total opposite". I found one small hotel where I had some junk food & came back to the room @ 2.00 AM. First time I was bit afraid during the way, as it was very very breezy and no one except the wild truckers.

Next day I woke up in the afternoon and my health seems to be even worst and I was afraid, wether I will be fine by late evening & even if I am fine, will I be able to do pradakshina on "The Day". I was very disappointed that the whole trip is screwed up. I woke up after a long sleep in the day & by evening I was feeling bit better by gods grace. I went out & I could see the whole road filled with people doing pradakshina, got back to the room & had a quck shower. Finally I have started prdakshina from Agni Lingam by feeding a cow. This time i could see less commercial activities compared to the prev time. Other good thing is, they have installed speaker near foot path for long distance which plays Shiv slokas. This is very good to be focused if you are distracted.

I could see trees growing fast & very big which is obstructing the view of Arunachala while doing girivalam. This was not the case 4 years back, may be it is a sign of Kaliyug :-[ where we are not able to see the visible form of god. The Esanya lingam gate was closed this time, not sure why. This time I also feeded dogs, which was also great feeling and over all it was great giri prdakshina and luckily my body suppoted me & got back to the room @1 AM. Next day I woke up @ 12 PM and I have been to skandashramam & climate was very good, as it drizzled a bit & spent some time meditating there. Got down the hill late afternoon and spent few hours in the ashramam. The preparations were "full on" for the anniversary of our master and I was feeling very bad that I am going to miss the birthday bash but what to do thats how it goes. Thanked Arunachala & our master for giving me the oppurtunity to visit & left the home.

Now I am back to the struggling world :-\

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!     
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on December 30, 2012, 08:40:04 AM
Dear Vinod,

Nice to see your post about your visit to Tiruvannamalai and your darshan of Sri Bhagavan and Siva and Uma in the Big Temple.
A bus journey, that too at night time will always be a tiring affair. You have to take a day extra and you should take rest on the
first day, with a brief visit to Asramam and the rest of the things you can cover on Day 2,3 and 4.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on December 30, 2012, 11:44:19 AM
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By our Arunachala's grace I have completed my journey. This was the first time I travelled by bus from Hyd to Tvnmlai.
Quote
The preparations were "full on" for the anniversary of our master and I was feeling very bad that I am going to miss the birthday bash but what to do thats how it goes. Thanked Arunachala & our master for giving me the oppurtunity to visit & left the home.
Vinod happy that you completed the journey . It would have been great had you stayed on for the Master's anniversary .Anyway the very fact you could visit Master Shrine and do Girivalam to Arunachala itself is a big blessing .

Om Peace
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on December 30, 2012, 06:09:14 PM
Dear Vinod, I am soo happy to read about Your visit to our Father and our Home,and all what You did and saw.  Wonderful! :) It is natural that You wanted to stay longer,to be there for Holiday too. Who would not. I am afraid that if i come there,i wont want to come back here anymore. I have such feeling. But even trip for few days is a Great,Great Blessing! Only thought of it is even,so every thouch of that sacred ground is a great boon. No matter You are back to strugling world,the Blessing and Grace,and presence of Bhagavan and Arunachala are always with You. Strugles will go away,it is bound to be so. So happy that You have been there! :) With love and prayers,
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on December 30, 2012, 07:28:51 PM
A bus journey, that too at night time will always be a tiring affair. You have to take a day extra and you should take rest on the
first day, with a brief visit to Asramam and the rest of the things you can cover on Day 2,3 and 4.
Arunachala Siva.

Dear Subramanian,

Thats very true! The main problem is the mode of transprt. If we go by air & cab it is still time consuming of 6hrs being expensive, if we we go by train & bus it is too time consuming (aprox 20hrs) & if we go in direct bus it is too tiring (aprox 11 hrs). It would have been better if there is a air port in Tvnmlai, with a direct/connect flight.

But yes, if people are not used to bus journey it is big hell, but thats okay as we say in hindi "kuch paaney ke liye kuch khona padtha hai"

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!



Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on December 30, 2012, 07:49:39 PM
Dear Subramanian, Atma Vichar & Jewell

Thank you so much for all your kind wishes!

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on January 05, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Dear All,

Last year when I have done pradakshina I met a guy of my age, who is a local guy. I always follow the dress code when ever I am in this sacred land. So as per the book "guide to girivalam" I always wear white clothes & wear rudraksha mala & do girivalam. When I met this guy during girivalam, he told me to be careful with such dress code because it may attract some siddhas which may be in any form and if it is in some strange form then it may be a shocking/scary experience for me.
Usually I do pradakshina in the late nights and mostly alone, so his words pinches me some times when ever I am alone. Is there any truth in this, since he is a local guy?

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on January 05, 2013, 12:53:14 PM
Dear All,

Last year when I have done pradakshina I met a guy of my age, who is a local guy. I always follow the dress code when ever I am in this sacred land. So as per the book "guide to girivalam" I always wear white clothes & wear rudraksha mala & do girivalam. When I met this guy during girivalam, he told me to be careful with such dress code because it may attract some siddhas which may be in any form and if it is in some strange form then it may be a shocking/scary experience for me.
Usually I do pradakshina in the late nights and mostly alone, so his words pinches me some times when ever I am alone. Is there any truth in this, since he is a local guy?

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!

Vinod

Arunachala is a place for Siddhas and nothing surprising in siddhas moving around in various forms . But if you have the mind focused on the Maha Mantra "Arunachala Siva Arunachala Siva .." while doing pradakshina then you need not fear anything . Usually during darkness when we are traveling alone there is a natural fear in any place but that fear need not be there when you travel around Arunachala as you do not consider Arunachala to just another hill of mud and rocks but a very living form of Lord Shiva .

Om Peace .
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on January 05, 2013, 01:11:35 PM
Dear Vinod,

The Siddhas may be coming and going on the girivalam route. But they will not scare you threaten you in any way. Do not
worry!

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on January 06, 2013, 01:11:17 AM
Yes thats true!

But I am not sure why that guy shared to me like that. Okay lets leave that.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 10, 2013, 11:18:28 AM
Dear all,

I feel very fortune to be present in arunachalam on the special occasion of shivraatri and will share my impressions when I am back.

Om arunaachaleshwaraaya namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 21, 2013, 09:04:18 PM
Dear All,

I was very fortunate to be present on the auspicious day of Shivraatri in Tvnmlai. I stayed there for 4 days & did not realize how fast the days went & I wonder why does it take so long for the weekend to come while working in office :)

For the first time I have done pradakshina in the wee hours starting @ 2.00 AM & it was really amazing coz it was shivraatri & when ever I visited any shrine of Lord shiva there was abhishekam going on & this made my journey very special. When I visited the panchamukha view it was early morning & the view of the hill was very beautiful & with the slokas of Shiva playing on the way, helped me to focus on the saadhana without getting distracted. What more I could wish for in this birth, Lord arunachala in front of my eyes, voice of om namah shivaay in the ears, singing occasionally with the sadhus in the shrines, it was total mesmerizing on the special day of mahaa shivraatri.

I always used to wonder why i could never hear a prayer in hindi which I could understand in ramanaashramam & my wish was fulfilled as there was a lady who was present on all 3 days & sang classical songs in hindi, Which was very melodious. I felt very happy & for the first time I could understand a prayer in the ashramam completely. 

Sorry got to go, will continue.......   

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Child of Arunachala on March 22, 2013, 03:55:14 PM
That is awesome, spending Mahasivaratri in Tiruvannamalai. I was beginning to wonder why you weren't posting your experience and here it is. :-)

There is a Hindi recording of Arunachala Aksharamanamalai. I heard it in the book store and it was just as captivating as the Tamil version.

BTW, How was it walking in the dark?

Child of Arunachala
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on March 22, 2013, 04:14:06 PM
Dear Vinod,

You are doubly blessed in staying in Arunachala,. doing girivalam and having darshan of Sri Bhagavan (Sri Ramaneswara Mahalingam
and Sri Matrubhuteswara Lingam and Yogambika - on Sivaratri night apart from having darshan and Uma and Siva in the temple.
Very nice.  Did you visit Sri Dakshinamurti shrines (both inside and outside the Asramam) and also Guru Moortham?  These are
places of importance, apart from Pachiamman Kovil, where Sri Bhagavan told Muni the last three hundred verses of Uma Sahasram,
in a trance.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on March 22, 2013, 05:40:42 PM
Vinod

Happy with ur Arunachala visit during Shivarathri . You must be blessed to be there during Shivarathri .
Hope you went back spiritually energized .
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 23, 2013, 01:41:11 PM
continued.....

Trust me people, if possible try to visit Tvnmlai on shivraatri coz on this day u can find less people compared to the maha deepam or the pournami day. As I told u what makes this day special while doing girivalam compared to any other day is, when ever u visit any shrine during any time in the night, u will find puja or bhajans happening the whole night & it makes u feel as if u are physically present with shiva & totally immersed in him with out any distractions what so ever. Trust me people try to visit next time & this also makes elderly people easy to do girivalam with less crowd

When I visited my favorite adi annamalai temple, there was preparations happening & they did not open the curtains for long time & I was feeling little bit weak & tired, as I fasted for the whole day & disappointed that I did not get the opportunity to see the lord & I waited for some time & started to leave. When I was about to leave the main entrance, they have opened the curtains & started abhishekam & I was so fortunate that this time I entered the main shrine & felt very fortunate to be there inside. This was very special to me coz Adi annamalai temple is my fav one since it is one of the oldest compared to the main temple as well.

I never done girivalam in the wee hours but it was beautiful with cold breeze, less traffic & the beauty of the hill esp when the early morning sun rays falling on it, gosh I wonder even Himalayas would feel jealous of it. I cannot stop thanking the ones who have installed the speakers on the girivalam way, as it continuously plays the slokas which also reduces sound of the traffic or the honkies.

Continues....
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on March 23, 2013, 01:45:46 PM
Dear Vinod,

Nice. Adi Annamalai is the place where Parvati did tapas. She could have darshan of Siva in Ner Annamalai.

Arunachala  Siva.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 23, 2013, 02:13:51 PM
It was morning 8.30 I guess & I completed girivalam & my desire was fulfilled coz my fav day in the entire year has been the way, I have wished for it & what more I could ask for.

I have been watching few changes in the few years I have been in Tvnmalai. People are becoming very desperate for the money, from beggars to even pujaris(with due respect). When I have come to the main entrance of the main temple, there was a bit elderly lady selling idlis in the hand to feed the cow. When I was about to pass the main entrance all of a sudden she force-ably handed me 2 set of idlis wrapped in dry leaf. Initially what I thought was may be she was scared to feed the cow(how foolish i was) & I took the idlis(which was my mistake) & immediately she told me to feed the cow, as it is good. Then i realized that she is selling, then I told I am sorry! i dont want to do it(with gestures) coz the cow was not eating idlis as there were 2 idlis already lying on the ground, then she showed me a old guy who is just standing beside her & asked to donate it to him, which was part of their trick. Immediately she shouted some thing in tamil for which I felt really embarrassed & finally landed up paying Rs 40 to her for those idlis. I was bit upset coz i landed up paying money to the wrong people, instead I would have donated it to few beggars.

Okay thats fine, so next day When I was having coconut water the vendor gave me a note of Rs 5 which cannot be exchanged in hyd. So I decided to give it to a elderly women who is just standing beside the coconut vendor. There was a guy who introduced him self as ex pilot & told me to stop donating money coz the money will be used for such activities which we cannot imagine. He told me to distinguish people & donate accordingly or give it in ramanashramam as charity, which will be properly used in feeding the poor. Now I am in total dilemma whether to donate money or not & how can we distinguish people?

continues....
   
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 23, 2013, 02:33:40 PM
This time when I was in the pataala linga, the pujari of the shrine all of a sudden stared at me in the crowd. I thought what could be the reason, then I realized since I am dressed in a proper treditional way of pure white dhothi & kumkum color kurtha, probably that could be the reason. When I started to leave, I could hear a guy calling me & when I turned behind it was the pujari(little bit young) who followed me. When I told him that I dont know tamil, he started speaking to me in broken english & told me that there is a abhishekam in the evening @ 5 & i can do it by my self personally @ free of cost. I thought thats okay coz I have to leave @ 7 from Tvnmala. He took few details from me like gothram, fathers name etc later he told it will cost Rs 2500/- to buy the things to perform abhishekam & now I realized why he starred @ me initially & followed me. When I told him that I have limited bucks as I am about to leave on the same day, he was bit annoyed and asked for dakshina when I was about to leave. It was not so good experience for me until then, as the day started beautifully with the abhishekam in the main temple. I thought wearing proper ethnic wear is also not good.

Overall my trip has been very fruitful & no regrets what so ever! I thanked Arunachala & our master for giving me the opportunity to visit our home & left the holy place.

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!     
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 23, 2013, 02:50:26 PM
That is awesome, spending Mahasivaratri in Tiruvannamalai. I was beginning to wonder why you weren't posting your experience and here it is. :-)

There is a Hindi recording of Arunachala Aksharamanamalai. I heard it in the book store and it was just as captivating as the Tamil version.

BTW, How was it walking in the dark?

Child of Arunachala

Dear Child of Arunachala,

I had to work for continuous 7 days in office after a vocation & had some pending work to be done in the weekoff, so did not get much time after the trip. But here I am with impressions.

I did not feel any darkness amidst of camphor's, deepam light & with occasional street lights the darkness was not much there & after few hours the early sun light made things even more beautiful. I have Arunachala Aksharamanamalai in telugu but in cassette, which i bought many years before but dont have it in mp3 & I also searched in web but was not successful.

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on March 23, 2013, 04:09:30 PM
Dear Vinod,

So nice and interesting to read about Your visit to our Father. It is wonderful that You have visited Arunachala on such a special and sacred day. So much impressions,and i guess true imressions are beyond any description,in the very heart. Beautiful! And more than that...

Thank You so much for sharing all this!

With love and prayers,
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Child of Arunachala on March 23, 2013, 09:38:33 PM
Dear Vinod,

I was going to give you valuable tips on how to handle sadhus, beggars and aggressive priests in Tiruvannamalai but then I saw that you have quoted my entire post back to me. I find that really annoying.  So I will not give you those tips.  I will let you live and learn. How hard can that be.  :)
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 24, 2013, 06:43:44 PM
Dear Child of Arunachala,

My intentions were not to annoy you, however if you did not like it please accept my sincere apologies. Request you to please share your valuable suggestions or tips to handle people which can be helpful for anyone who read this post.

Thanks in advance!

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 24, 2013, 06:57:59 PM
Dear Vinod,

You are doubly blessed in staying in Arunachala,. doing girivalam and having darshan of Sri Bhagavan (Sri Ramaneswara Mahalingam
and Sri Matrubhuteswara Lingam and Yogambika - on Sivaratri night apart from having darshan and Uma and Siva in the temple.
Very nice.  Did you visit Sri Dakshinamurti shrines (both inside and outside the Asramam) and also Guru Moortham?  These are
places of importance, apart from Pachiamman Kovil, where Sri Bhagavan told Muni the last three hundred verses of Uma Sahasram,
in a trance.

Arunachala Siva.

Dear Subramanian Ji,

Hope you are doing good. Honestly speaking due to my offlate spirituality, I cannot recognize the gods except the main ones like lord Shiva & Ganesha & being oblivious to tamil, it even makes things difficult. If I am correct Sri Dakshinamurti shrine is the one which is attached to the wall of the Ramanaashramam beside the main gate & if it is, I will always start my girivalama after worshiping him & also end it by worshipping him.

For the first time I have visited Virupaksha cave & its surprising to still smell the strong fragnance of vibuthi after knowing the history about it. I was not fortunate to visit the Gurumurtham temple unlike the last time but I will make it next time. Till now I have never been to Esanya Desikar Shrine due to time constrain & I will not miss it next time, what ever the case.

Thank you for your kind words & suggestions sir!

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 24, 2013, 07:02:35 PM
Vinod

Happy with ur Arunachala visit during Shivarathri . You must be blessed to be there during Shivarathri .
Hope you went back spiritually energized .

Dear Atma Vichar,

Hope you are fine & some how I feel last visit has been very mesmirizing compared to my previous visits, may be its just for the reason being Shivraatri which is my fav day/festival in the entire year.

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on March 24, 2013, 07:07:16 PM

Dear Vinod,

Yes. That is the Dakshinamurti shrine which I had mentioned.  It is a powerful shrine and on Thursdays, you can see crowds
in a long queue, almost blocking the road.  There is one new Daskhinamurti Shrine inside the Asramam, which is newly installed
just below the new library building in the far end.

Arunachala Siva. 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 24, 2013, 07:07:46 PM
Dear Vinod,

So nice and interesting to read about Your visit to our Father. It is wonderful that You have visited Arunachala on such a special and sacred day. So much impressions,and i guess true imressions are beyond any description,in the very heart. Beautiful! And more than that...

Thank You so much for sharing all this!

With love and prayers,

Dear jewell,

I hope when you make your maiden visit to our home, you should give us even more clear or elobarated impressions :)

We thank you for creating this topic to share our experiences.

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on March 24, 2013, 08:21:48 PM
Dear Vinod,

O yes! I cant wait to do that. It will be a huge elaborat on few pages. :) I will have lots of impressiong,coz i am coming for first time to India too. I cant wait! The day i step on that plane,will be be most beautiful day of my life. Yeeeeeeeeee :) I am already excided. I hope it will be soon.

Thanj You,dear friend!

With love and prayers,
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Child of Arunachala on March 25, 2013, 02:42:30 PM
Dear Vinod,

Nay, I will hold off on my tips to keep aggressive sadhus, beggars and priests away. You are still continuing to quote people's entire posts back to them. It is either because of an obstinate vasana or don't care attitude, neither of which will work with Arunachala.

I hope you realize it is costing the website owner server space - for which he is paying for out of the goodness of his heart.  It is costing the rest of us energy to download more (totaly unnecessary lines).  In short, you (and others who do the same thing) are wantonly wasting the resources of the universe. Any wonder then that the beggars are so aggressive with you.  I will let you live and learn. :-)

Child of Arunachala
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on March 25, 2013, 06:00:07 PM
Quote
I have been watching few changes in the few years I have been in Tvnmalai. People are becoming very desperate for the money, from beggars to even pujaris(with due respect).

This is common in most tourist places where there is a lot of floating visitor population .  The people who cheat you or take you for a ride know that you come once in a while and do all their disposal to cheat you or take you for a ride .
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 25, 2013, 06:09:40 PM
Dear Child of Arunachala,

I was not aware of that, so its just a mistake in ignorance but however it seems to be a valid suggestion and I agree with you. So henceforth I will not do it until n unless if it is absolute necessary.

Thanks for sharing the knowledge. I still leave it to u whether to share any tips regarding how to handle "aggressive" people coz if you share, it will be helpful for anyone who reads this post.

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Nagaraj on March 25, 2013, 06:39:27 PM
These are specially ordained by the Lord Almighty for each one of us to realise the truth.

After all, who is being cheated? is it not the 'i'? These are divine plans and divinely ordained! Whose money is being robbed after all? is it ours or God's?

Is there anything that can be claimed as ours? which can be snatched by others? who is snatching whose money? God is just asking His own money, He gives as He wills and He takes it as He wills!

There is no question of being cheated. We can never be cheated! This is the Truth!

Who are we? Even our body is not ours, nor even the mind and so on..

One is truly blessed when has been cheated royally!

--
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Child of Arunachala on March 25, 2013, 08:24:47 PM
Dear Vinod,

Well, I, too felt harassed for money on my first visit to Tiruvannamalai.  A local elder explained to me "We lose money when we owe God money."

Since then I have been donating money to Sri Ramanasramam and the Arunachaleswarar temple (places where I get my spiritual nourishment) atleast once a year, sometimes more.  It  costs Rs. 3,000 to sponsor one day's feeding at each of these places.  There have been times when my expenses, especially rent in Tiru, was high and I could only donate, say a Rs 1000, but I would do it, thinking I was feeding fewer sadhus.   This totally eliminated the harassment when I visit Tiru.  The people being fed at these places have all been personally selected by Arunachaleswarar or Bhagavan, otherwise they wouldn't be able to eat there.

When I donate, I take the money first to Arunachala and Bhagavan, offer it to them and only then proceed to the temple or ashram office to pay it.  This ensures in my mind that the money is protected, will be used wisely and maybe even multiply to pay the bills of these organizations.

I know a few people in Tiruvannamalai who donate a lot more than I do.  One friend has rented a house in Tiru and he and his family, have chanting going on all day long. The sadhus often join them in chanting and then they are served their mid-day meal everyday.   

Another person I know off bought a house and started feeding sadhus idlis in the morning.  The program is in its 24th year now.

One of them told me that his medical bills came down drastically as a result of this. He was also incurring heavy losses in his business because of thefts and break-ins. That stopped immediately.    I hope this helps.

Child of Arunachala
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on March 26, 2013, 10:10:03 AM
Dear Child of Arunachala,

The contribution to the Asramam has been increased due to inflation.  for Sadhu bhiksha it is Rs 2000/- for bhiksha for the visitors
and inmates (ie. our regular lunch) is Rs 4000.00.  One can of course, donate, lesser amounts, but this is taken for their other
expenses and not for bhiksha.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Child of Arunachala on March 26, 2013, 12:47:18 PM
Dear Subramaniam sir,

I saw on the ashram website last year that the sadhu bhiksha has gone upto Rs. 3,000 and the regular lunch to Rs. 5,000. I have been paying accordingly. Although, once when I gave Rs. 1,000 (over and above what I donate) the accountant accepted it gracefully. Mani anna was at his desk. Neither of them said anything. Ofcourse, I am not privy to their accounting. My motto is give your maximum. It should feel like a sacrifice.

I know of people who sponsor sadhu bhiksha at the ashram many times during the year.  I know others who feed the cows (Goddess Lakshmi & Lord Krishna), monkeys (Hanuman), dogs (Bhairava) and crows (Shani's vahana & ancestors) regularly.

One year I followed a friend's idea and took idli packets and distributed it to sadhus around the hill but it wasn't as fulfilling an exercise. It felt like I was throwing food packets away even though I was doing it respectfully seated in an auto. I haven't done that since. 

The Arunachaleswara temple and Ramana asramam are my most favourite places to donate. It has strengthened my connection to Arunachala and Bhagavan.

Child of Arunachala.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Subramanian.R on March 26, 2013, 12:52:37 PM
Dear Child of Arunachala,

Yes. Your figures are correct.  I had only given them incorrectly.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: atmavichar100 on March 26, 2013, 02:06:03 PM
Regarding  Donation for Annadanam in Temples / Ashrams :

The inflation in essential food items ( rice , dal , cooking oil etc ) is very highly visible and we must take this in to account when making any contributions towards Annadanam in any Ashram / Temple . Some places explicitly state the  amount needed per day for Annadanam ( and change it every 3-5 years keeping the inflation in mind )  but in many places they do not fix any specific amount for the same and allow people to make whatever contributions they feel like doing .
Temples in Tamil Nadu Coming under Governmnet have special Annadanam Hundis and even Arunachaleeshwar Temple has one big Hundi for Annadanam . There are no receipts for the same and u can contribute whatever u feel like .
As regards Ashram better to ask for any specific Annadanam schemes and donate accordingly or if you feel you cant afford that amount  make a general donation .
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on March 27, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
Dear Child of Arunachala,

Thank you for sharing your knowledge with all of us & I was fortunate enough to know about the biksha or annadaanam from prev posts and in my last visit, I kept it in one of my reminders and got the bank details from the accountant or the manager were I can transfer the money through NEFT.

This is the best way to be satisfied that we are still being part of charity despite of not donating personally.

This reminds me of one incident which I had in my last visit. When I was on my way of second girivalam on a lovely evening, I decided to buy biscuits for the stray dogs. When I went to a shop there was a old women who purchased some mixture(bundhi) from the shop to eat. When the shop guy was about to give me the change, she started asking me for the change & I was really shocked coz a really poor needy person who beggs for food wouldn't buy that I guess. My opinion may or may not be correct but this is what I felt at that time & I willfully did not offer her the change thinking someone else deserves that.

Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!   
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Child of Arunachala on March 27, 2013, 09:15:01 PM
Dear Vinod,

This is just my opinion. I think you are being hard on this poor old lady.  Maybe it was a vasana for bhoondi, like Bhagavan's mother had for appalam, or maybe she was hungry.  When you are a street person, you don't have a stove, utensils and supplies. Buying a precooked food is your only way out - often it is junk food. Atleast she wasn't doing drugs or drinking, like many of the male sadhus do to survive the hard life on the streets. Of course they can do intense sadhana but drinking and drugs come easy.

One sadhu told me that it is great that these ashrams and temples are providing free food but many of the sadhus can't digest parboiled rice that is served. They are old and need something mushy. So this sadhu packages the free food he gets and sells it to buy the rice he can eat. That puts things in perspective, doesn't it?

Also, there is so much corruption in India, many of the temples are not free from it.   That is why I offer my money directly first to God and then put it in the hundi. Atleast my money will not be misused. Or so I believe. ???   :-\

Child of Arunachala 
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Vinod on November 23, 2013, 01:29:36 PM
Dear All,

First let me thank Arunachala for giving me the opportunity of being there during the special occasion. I did not plan my trip well this time, I did not book the air tickets well in advance, so thought I can try train tathkal tickets but missed it too. Final and worst one for me is to travel in Volvo, as I don’t have any other option. I reached Tiru on Sunday morning 4.30 AM with nausea & severe headache & felt very sick. Climate in Tiru was not good with wet roads & I was wondering if it rains again how bad things may become during pradakshina with so many people around. So finally got to the room & I hardly slept till lunch, due to the preparations for the fest. Finally after good lunch I had some sleep & woke up in the evening & felt little bit better. I have been to the ashram & had hard time just to cross the road, as the entire road has been totally filled with people who are mostly rushing. Ramana lingam was looking beautiful with fresh flowers & ashram was nicely decorated with diya & the entire ambience was looking stupendous. After some time I decided to be in dhyanam & when I closed my eyes after quick few minutes I was about to fall asleep & realized that my body is still tired & in need of rest. I came back to the room & from balcony I watched the jyothi being lit & after several minutes of wait, I could hardly see the jyothi due to too many clouds.

Started pradakshina at 11 in the night & thankfully it’s less crowded. I felt lot of distractions this time esp with people who are buying & blowing honkies or some whistle thing which was very annoyingly irritating during the entire pradakshina. Worst thing was even mature adults were blowing that honky along with kids which was real disgrace. I hardly found people chanting & there were too many commercial activities with loud speakers. I tried my best to keep the focus on the hill and kept singing inside. By the time I reached Adi Annamalai temple, it was surprisingly closed which shouldn’t be the case during special occasions. I don’t remember looking at the jyothi during my girivalam, as the hill itself was covered with clouds most of the times. I have completed pradakshina by 5 in the morning & still I did not have the spiritual feeling which I always used to have after the pradakshina & it’s may be coz of the too many distractions or may be I was not determined.

With the sense of incompleteness I have again started girivalam on Tuesday at 5 PM & it was pleasant evening without any distractions what so ever & it was just me & Arunachala. This time I was fortunate to be at my favorite adi annamalai temple before its closing time. By the time I reached the main temple, I saw group of people mostly women & little girls who were chanting & doing pradakshina. I felt so nice listening to that ( in spite of the fact that I am oblivious to tamil), I joined them & completed my girivalam with ease by 11. Overall it’s been great spiritual experience this time & I also got the feeling that doing pradakshina on normal days is better than special days which no longer has the spiritual ambience. 

Like always I visited main temple in the morning but it was more beautifully decorated in the evenings with good lighting and flower decoration Aah! How can I explain, it was amazing. Being in temple especially in the late evening was so good that I did not realize the time being there.

Due to some reasons this time I was getting disturbed with too many thoughts either related to office or home. I tried to focus on the self but still I was unsuccessful most of the times & this never happened to me before. I have seen less monkeys & no peacocks at all this time in the ashram, don’t know why. It’s been good few days in Tiru & when I was back to Chennai to board the train, I was late by 15 min’s & I missed it. Being allergic to the bus journey I had to stay in Chennai for one night & booked air tickets for the next day & I am back home.
 
Om Arunaachaleshwaraaya Namaha!
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: latha on November 24, 2013, 01:26:22 AM
Dear Vinodji,

Thank you for sharing your experience. I can imagine the crowds being unruly and noisy. I like Subramaniamji's idea of going the day after the mahadeepam and finding the place calm. But you are blessed to have attended the function. Living far from Tiru, it is nice to read about other people's visits to our holy place.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
Title: Re: Impressions from travels to Tiruvannamalai
Post by: Jewell on November 24, 2013, 11:11:28 PM
Dear Vinod,

Thank You for sharing all this with us! It is such joy to even just touch this sacred land,not to mention all You experienced and saw. I can imagine the crowd and noise ,and that can be real nuisance. But,the most important thing is that You'd been to our Home and our Father.

With love and prayers,