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Title: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 11, 2011, 01:53:30 AM
The same line you take in meditation will be expressed in your activities.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on April 11, 2011, 11:54:45 AM



Dear prasanth,

Yes.  The meditation with a silent mind without no thoughts brings
about total bliss.  You can meditate on any god or guru also and that god or guru may help you in your activities.  But no-thought meditation is the supreme.



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 12, 2011, 10:31:06 AM
meditation with a silent mind without no thoughts or without attachment to the thoughts arising brings bliss is according to Sri Sundara Chaitanya Swami and i somehow agree with him sir.

Anyways it it up to the individual to find a better path to reach the common goal.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 12, 2011, 10:32:30 AM
Giving up the false self is the true renunciation.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 12, 2011, 03:55:41 PM
excellent and very well explained udai garu.

I will save your text and read it daily.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 13, 2011, 10:12:07 AM
You have to ask yourself the question "Who am I?" This investigation will lead in the end to the discovery of something within you that is behind the mind. Solve that great problem and you will solve all other problems.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 14, 2011, 10:10:29 AM
This pure "I AM" is the heart, our true being. "I AM" alone is real.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 15, 2011, 10:16:56 AM
There should be nothing associated with the pure Self. The Self is the unassociated, pure reality, in whose light the body and the ego shines.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on April 15, 2011, 11:28:01 AM


Dear prasanth,

Nice. In Jehovavian theology, they say God is Selfish and he will
not allow any body to stay with Him, in the heart.  The Self or God
does not permit the ego to stay with Him.



Arunachala Siva.   
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 18, 2011, 01:49:33 AM
Consciousness is always Self-consciousness. If you are conscious of anything, you are essentially conscious of yourself.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramanaduli on April 18, 2011, 07:11:01 AM
when does self-consiousness become un-consiousness
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on April 18, 2011, 03:46:55 PM


Dear Ramanaduli,

As prasanth said Self Consciousness is ever with us.  Unconsciousness
is the state of fainting, sleep and savikalpa samadhi, where from one comes out.



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: amiatall on April 18, 2011, 04:16:04 PM
Dear ramanaduli,

It doesn't. Consciousness never becomes un-consciousness, for to recognize unconsciousness there must be something by which you recognized it. So, these states comes to whom? To me. Hold me. Follow it.
Consciousness is unbroken and undivided. In truth that's the essential question that comes to you - how come my consciousness is not integral and continuous? But this is an illusion. It can be answered only by practicing inquiry and quieting the mind.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 19, 2011, 10:08:29 AM
Reincarnation exists only so long as there is ignorance. There is really no reincarnation at all, either now or before. Nor will there be any hereafter, this is the truth.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on April 19, 2011, 11:49:06 AM


Dear prasanth,

Yes.  Sri Bhagavan says in Who am I:  At the time of death, mind
carries the prana and goes way [to take a new birth.].  In case there
is no mind and prana is indrawn into the Self within, there is no
reincarnation at all.  The first classification is only ignorance.



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 20, 2011, 10:06:32 AM
The Self is God. "I AM" is God.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 21, 2011, 10:09:33 AM
Know that you are the perfect shining light, which not only makes the existence of God's kingdom possible, but also allows it to be seen as some wonderful heaven.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 22, 2011, 01:17:10 PM
Faith is in things unknown, but the Self is self-evident.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 25, 2011, 01:52:10 AM
That bliss of the Self is always with you and you will find it for yourself if you seek it earnestly.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on April 25, 2011, 01:45:38 PM


Dear prasanth,

Once Devaraja Mudaliar asked Sri Bhagavan:  "You have been telling
grace is ever flowing, grace is ever flowing, but I am not able to realize it."

Sri Bhagavan said: "Yes. Grace is ever flowing. But, Oye, you do not
obstruct its flow."

'you' here means 'I' of the questioner. The ego. The ego obstructs the flow of Grace from Guru.



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 26, 2011, 10:20:05 AM
Very well said Subramanian garu.

Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 26, 2011, 10:21:25 AM
All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble. What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the cause of misery which is really within you?

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on April 26, 2011, 12:18:08 PM


Dear prasanth,



Yes. Sri Bhagavan says in Arunachala Mahatmyam, Verse 4:

The ego creates the world and the world binds all beings.


The English translation is:

Because they bind the beings of the worlds, know that the relentless karmas become the bondage for Jivas. The effulgent Arunachala is that of which the mere sight suffices to cause them to become non existent.



Arunchala Siva.     
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 27, 2011, 10:17:01 AM
To be the Self that you really are is the only means to realize the bliss that is ever yours.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 28, 2011, 10:14:50 AM
Effort must be made to eradicate the mental tendencies. Knowledge can only remain unshaken after all the mental tendencies are rooted out.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on April 28, 2011, 01:57:09 PM


Dear prasanth, srkudai,

Yes. Atma Vichara or Self Inquiry eradicates the vasanas.  Because
the vasanas are built in tendencies due to ego. When the ego goes,
so also the vasanas.

Sri Bhagavan remained unmoved during dhukka and sukha.  Whether it is saltless gruel or a 32 dish bhiksha, Sri Bhagavan treated them alike. One lady from Andhra prepared a lavish lunch with 32 dishes.  Four types of sweets, two types of sambhar, added to this, one buttermilk sambhar - I do not know what you call it. It is called majjike huli in Kannada and Morkuzhambu in Tamizh -, two types of payasams, mixed vegetable rice, plain white rice, four types of pickles, four types of curries, pepper rasam, dhal rasam, curds, buttermilk etc.,. Sri Bhagavan combined everything, and took some three or four fistfuls!  The lady asked: What Bhagavan! You are not tasting each item separately and relishing it. Sri Bhagavan said: Where is the taste for me? All are one taste only!



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 29, 2011, 03:03:24 PM
well said sir. Really with regards to food habits our bhagavan is just amazing.

Wish i would have stayed atleast 1 day in ashram when bhagavan was alive as i would have watched his daily routine so closely sir.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on April 29, 2011, 03:41:01 PM


Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan is a phenomenon. Such Jnanis come to this world,
very rarely.

His life and teachings are identical. He was the one who lived as
He taught.



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on April 29, 2011, 03:44:48 PM


Dear prasanth,

There is something called earth's wobbling. The earth like a fast
rotating top, jerks once in 26000 years.  It happened recently about
2 months back. Even Srimad Bhagavatam has spoken about earth
wobbling.  Like earth's wobbling, births of Jnanis are very occurrences.



Arunachala Siva.   
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 02, 2011, 02:28:11 AM
He who thinks he is the doer is also the sufferer.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on May 02, 2011, 01:14:54 PM


Yes. Sri Bhagavan said in Who am I?

Answer to Question No. 24:

"......
......In fact, what is called the world is only thought.  When the world
disappears, i.e when there is no thought, the mind experiences happiness.  When the world appears, it goes through misery.""



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 03, 2011, 10:10:14 AM
It is the human mind that creates its own difficulties and then cries for help.

Misery does not exist in reality but only in mere imagination.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 04, 2011, 10:16:17 AM
If one scrutinizes one's own Self, which is bliss, there will be no misery at all in one's life.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on May 04, 2011, 12:11:33 PM
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Dear prasanth,

Once a devotee asked Sri Bhagavan: When we are the Self, then
why Maya should keep on disturbing us?

Sri Bhagavan said: Maya is also Pure. It is your mind which makes it
impure.



Arunachala Siva. 
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 05, 2011, 10:07:48 AM
Good, God, Love, are all the same thing. If the person keeps continuously thinking of any one of these, it will be enough. All meditation is for the purpose of keeping out all other thoughts.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 06, 2011, 10:12:32 AM
You must love all and help all, since only in this way can you help yourself.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 09, 2011, 02:09:48 AM
If one knows the truth that all one gives to others is giving only to oneself, who indeed will not be a virtuous person and perform the kind act of giving to others.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on May 09, 2011, 05:19:26 PM


Dear prasanth,

I have been reading this sentence in  Who am I? daily, when I am reading the whole booklet.  For several months in the past, I was
thinking, 'how when one gives to others, is giving it to himself?'

There were then some practical incidents in my life. In Bangalore,
autorickshaw man charges Rs 17/- for minimum distance. Whenever
I cover minimum distance, and get down, when there is no exact change, on a few occasions, I gave Rs 20.00.  The driver specially
thanked me or smiled at me. His smile or thank you gave me immense happiness. Then I understood that Sri Bhagavan has spoken the Truth and only truth.  On several occasions, particularly for poor people like vegetable vendor or flower vendor, if I give slightly more money and say I do not want the small change back,
he or she would give a broad smile and his or her face will lit up.
This in turn gives me enormous happiness.  After all if one can buy happiness from others when we give small changes etc.,, why not do that?

I give from every new moon to full moon for 15 days, Rs 36/- for
the security guards of our apartments complex.  There are four people.  And each one gets it one day. It comes for 4 rounds. Those days, they are very happy and smile at me. Even if I stop it between pradamai to new moon again, they smile at him as if I am the giver like Mahalakshmi or Kubera.  Such small acts give us immense happiness. What Sri Bhagavan says is 100 percent true.

Mudaliar Patti, Echammal and others gave her food. They gave happily food to Sri Bhagavan.  What did Sri Bhagavan do in return?
He gave them liberation, the priceless item in exchange.

Thanthathun unnai kondathum ennai
Sankara, yar kolo chaturar?
Andham onru illa anandam petren, yadhu nee
petrathu enpaal?
Chintaiye kovil konda en peruman, tiruperundurai urai sivane,
Enthaye isa udalidam kondaai, yan itharkilen or kaimmare?

says Sri Manikkavachagar in Tiruvachakam.



Arunachala Siva.           
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 10, 2011, 10:14:25 AM
well said sir . charity to the extent possible is very much essential in our life based on bhagavan's quotes.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 10, 2011, 10:32:33 AM
Since everyone is one's own Self, whoever does whatever to whomever is doing it only to himself.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on May 10, 2011, 01:56:57 PM


Dear prasanth,

Once when Sri Bhagavan forgot to wash His codpiece and towel,
Viswanatha Swami had washed and dried them.  Sri Bhagavan
remembered it and also knew that Viswanatha Swami had done
the work for Him.  He told Viswanatha Swami: Viswanatha, tomorrow
you should give your dhoti to me and I shall wash them!

He not only taught but lived as per His own teachings.  One who gives it other self is giving it to his own Self.



Arunachala Siva.   
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 11, 2011, 12:13:05 PM
Look within, see the Self. Then there will be an end of the world and its miseries.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 12, 2011, 10:24:16 AM
So long as you consider yourself to be the body, you see the world as external and the imperfections appear to you.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 13, 2011, 10:14:30 AM
You are not instructed to shut your eyes to the world, you are only to "see yourself first and then see the whole world as the Self."

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on May 13, 2011, 12:55:04 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan says in verse 44 of Sri Arunachala Akshara Mana
Maalai:

"Turn within and uninterruptedlly see yourself with an introverted
mind and it will be revealed. Thus you told me, Oh, my Arunachala."



Arunachala Siva. 
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 16, 2011, 01:49:00 AM
To bring about peace means to be free from thoughts and to abide as pure Consciousness.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 17, 2011, 01:58:18 AM
If one remains at peace oneself, there is only peace everywhere.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 18, 2011, 10:14:28 AM
There is no standard by which to judge something to be right and another to be wrong. Opinions differ according to the nature of the individual and according to the surroundings. They are ideas, and nothing more.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on May 18, 2011, 02:42:11 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes.  There is no right or wrong. Both are concepts. If a soldier
shoots ten Pakistani soldiers, then he gets Vir Chakra. If I shoot
ten civilians on the streets of Bangalore, I shall be imprisoned and
executed. The same act, varies as good or bad.



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 19, 2011, 01:16:40 AM
well said sir.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 19, 2011, 01:31:02 AM
Whatever is done lovingly, with righteous purity and with peace of mind, is a good action.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 20, 2011, 10:07:28 AM
Bad habits and bad conduct are like a wound in the body. Every disease must be given appropriate treatment.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 23, 2011, 01:34:37 AM
When there is no "I" there is no karma (destiny).

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramanaduli on May 23, 2011, 07:13:12 AM
DEar sir,

Bhagavan says, this body itself is a diseased so it must be treated appropriate treatment. Self inquiry is the best treatment, easily available.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 23, 2011, 10:13:46 AM
well said ramanaduli garu.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 24, 2011, 10:09:54 AM
Until realization, there will be karma, that is, action and reaction. After realization, there will be no karma, and no world.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramanaduli on May 24, 2011, 11:38:55 AM
Dear sirs,

After realisation Bhagavan was doing all sort of works like cutting vegetables, reading and correcting. The only difference is they never think that all the work is done by them. There would not be "I"ness so they are free from the karmic fruits. Is not it?


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on May 24, 2011, 12:29:25 PM


Dear ramanaduli,

This is what many people ask. How can one without ego/mind/thought work, cut vegetables, write poems and speak to people? 

Muruganar answers this question in Guru Vachaka Kovai, Verse 1139:

If asked, "We actually see the Jnani performing actions. How can actions be performed in the absence of doership? You should be convinced that because his inner attachment [the ego] is dead, he has the Self Himself residing in his Heart and performing those actions.

Day by Day - entry dt. 5th May 1946:

Sri Bhagavan: And if it is held that a man cannot be considered a Jnani so long as he performs actions in the world [and action is impossible without a mind], then not only the great Sages who carried oujt various kinds of work after attaining Jnana must not
be considered Jnanis, but the gods also and Iswara Himself, since He continues looking after the world. The fact is that any amount of action can be performed, and performed quite well, by the Jnani without his identiying himself with it in any way or ever imagining he is the doer. Some power acts through his body and uses his body to get the work done.

eg. Sri Bhagavan, Sri Sankara, KaduveLi Siddhar.

         
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: saraskrishna on May 24, 2011, 08:27:25 PM
Yes Sir, it is not easy to or i would say it is not possible to define the state of Bhagavan or define the state of the "Self"..  Normal human mind with ego, always wants to understand everything in some logical way or some way other. That is one reason why many people had such questions and even some devotees tend to describe saying ' Bhagavan is in so and so state, so his mind is in that state to act without ego ' which is again incorrect...  A Brahma Jnani's state cannot be defined fullest ! some expressions with comparisons can be given, still that is not just what is said.

HIS state and HIS actions cannot be defined, one can only try to explain.  If it is from GOD, it has to be accepted immediately, without any questions.


Arunachala Siva.. Arunachala Siva..
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 25, 2011, 10:15:46 AM
Unless the doer of all karmas (actions) -- the ego -- is annihilated through Inquiry, the perfect peace of Supreme Bliss, which is the result of Karma Yoga, cannot be achieved.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on May 25, 2011, 01:53:27 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Peace comes only when there is no mind/ego.  See the first paragraph of Who am I?  It is the mind which causes all sufferings.
However, vichara marga if successful, the ego is annihilated and the
peace as a child enjoys in its deep dreamless sleep is attained.



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: amiatall on May 25, 2011, 03:31:05 PM
Yes Sir, it is not easy to or i would say it is not possible to define the state of Bhagavan or define the state of the "Self"..  Normal human mind with ego, always wants to understand everything in some logical way or some way other. That is one reason why many people had such questions and even some devotees tend to describe saying ' Bhagavan is in so and so state, so his mind is in that state to act without ego ' which is again incorrect...  A Brahma Jnani's state cannot be defined fullest ! some expressions with comparisons can be given, still that is not just what is said.

HIS state and HIS actions cannot be defined, one can only try to explain.  If it is from GOD, it has to be accepted immediately, without any questions.


Arunachala Siva.. Arunachala Siva..

Robert Adams used to give this example a lot:
"Imagine a chalkboard, a Jnani is like a chalkboard, everything is written on the chalkboard, then erased, then again written, but chalkboard remains always unaffected. He sees images but he sees them as chalkboard i.e. as himself. To others, Jnani may appear as a body, but I can assure you that Jnani has NO BODY and is aware of it fully."
Then there was a discussion how Jnani acts in the world, again, to others it appears that he acts but he doesn't. Body does whatever it came to do and does it even better.
He gave an example of two physicists "Ajnani physicist thinks, plans, works on the project, gives effort to learn etc. while Jnani physicists does not think, does not plan, does nothing, body acts automatically and He does not need to know how it acts on its own"

It is really difficult state to explain, that's why main emphasis is on the practice and practice, practice.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on May 25, 2011, 06:13:59 PM


Dear Jyoti and others,

A Jnani does karma - not by his mind but through the Self within.
There is one Guru Vachaka Kovai verse on this.



Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 26, 2011, 10:13:54 AM
Yes sir Peace comes only when mind is controlled.

Bg Gita Ch2 Text 66

One who is not in transcendental consciousness can have neither a controlled mind nor steady intelligence, without which there is no possibility of peace. And how can there be any happiness without peace?
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 26, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
Destiny (karma) is the result of past actions.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 27, 2011, 10:10:03 AM
Whatever this body is to do and whatever experiences it is to pass through was already decided when it came into existence.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramanaduli on May 27, 2011, 02:07:45 PM
Dear sir,


This should be understood properly. If we understand properly, the total surrender is taken place. If there is totall surrender, it is easy to be SUMMA IRU. But human nature to try their "Free will". Some times some people, somewhere would escape from the trouble but  not all.


Ramanaduli
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 30, 2011, 01:51:29 AM
He who is forgetful of the Self, mistaking the physical body for it, and goes through innumerable births, is like one who wanders all over the world in a dream. Thus, realizing the Self would only be like waking up from the dream-wanderings.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 31, 2011, 10:07:44 AM
Surrender can never be regarded as complete so long as the devotee wants this or that from the Lord.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on May 31, 2011, 10:57:23 AM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. In total surrender, when the ego is submitted to God, where is the
question of asking this or that?  When there is asking God for something or other, as you have quoted, the surrender is not total and complete.



Arunacahala Siva. 
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Post by: ramanaduli on May 31, 2011, 01:27:49 PM
Dear Subramaniyan ji,


Total surrender never comes at once. The devotee has to take so many births to surrender completely. Recently I had an opportunity to listen one sat sangh where the pandit told that, it is also God's will to grant total surrender. It is our duty to take His refuge not asking grant me total surrender. Just leave everything to Him. "Be as your are".  It seems what Bhagavan says being as it is a total surrender. Is it not?


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on May 31, 2011, 03:07:49 PM


Dear ramanaduli,

Total surrender is not asking 'give me total surrender'. Total surrender means only submission [or sacrifice] of ego.  When ego is sacrificed who will ask what?  There is no ego, so there is nothing to ask. This is total surrender.  This is what Sri Bhagavan told Mother Azhagamma when she came to see her son, in 1898 end in Christmas holidays. She wrote the sentences on a piece of paper and gave it to her.

What Sri Bhagavan told Kavyakanta was self enquiry. He asked him to find where the mantra dvani gets subsided. That subsidence is in Heart. Sri Bhagavan said: You give your attention to that place.

Both total surrender and self inquiry are described in ULLadu Narpadu verses  1 and 2 [benedictory verses].  The entire teaching is over in the first two verses themselves.



Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 01, 2011, 12:53:37 AM
very well said Subramanian garu.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 01, 2011, 10:15:28 AM
Awareness which already exists within everyone everywhere, is imperishable and changeless.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 02, 2011, 01:17:49 AM
The guru does not bring about Self-realization. He simply removes the obstacles to it.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 02, 2011, 02:06:11 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Guru is grace personified.  The Grace is ever flowing. Only our ego should not obstruct it. Even here, Guru will try to remove the
ego if one has got an ardent faith in him.  Once Devaraja Mudaliar
asked Sri Bhagavan: "Bhagavan!  You are telling grace is ever flowing. But I am still not able to feel it."  Sri Bhagavan smilingly replied:  "Mudaliar! Grace is ever flowing. But "you" don't come in
between!" Sun is ever shining. But sometimes we don't see the sun
not because sun is not there, but due to clouds hiding our view.



Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 03, 2011, 10:06:15 AM
yes very well explained Subramanian garu.

God or guru never forsakes the devotee who has surrendered himself.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 06, 2011, 10:14:19 AM
Silence is the best, the most potent initiation. Silent initiation changes the heart of all.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 06, 2011, 02:53:15 PM


Dear prasanth,

Here I sit, in the shadow of the temple, my back against the wall.

Opposite:  Blazing light.

Behind Him: sand, coconut palms. A monkey walks behind Him, just a few yards away, its baby clasping itself tight under its mother, and looking curiously into His direction from its safe, protected place.
Squirrels running up and down the palms. An attendant moves a fan, to protect Him from the heat.

Silence.

Someone approaches, prostrates before Him, and hands a bundle of incense sticks to one of His attendants, who lights them. A wave of scent floats through the stillness.

Silence.

Silence penetrating from the immortal!

The stillness that He is, the stillness that I am, is the meaning of things.

- Wolter A. Keers.



Arunachala Siva.
       
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 07, 2011, 10:12:29 AM
It is very hard to realize one's true state or nature without the grace of the guru.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 08, 2011, 10:18:30 AM
God never acts. He just is.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 09, 2011, 10:17:57 AM
Individuality is the illusion that we are not identical with God. When the illusion is dispelled, what remains is God.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 09, 2011, 10:37:03 AM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan has said in Who am I? 

What is Real is only Atma Swarupam.  The world, the jiva and the Iswara [personal god] are only the illusions as silver in oyster shell.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 10, 2011, 10:11:09 AM
Realization of the Self is realization of God. It is not an experience of God, rather, it is an understanding that one is God.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 13, 2011, 09:45:27 AM
Knowing the Self, God is known. In fact, God is none other than Self.


- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 13, 2011, 11:59:29 AM


Dear prasanth,

God, Self and Brahman -- all are one and the same. God becomes the Self when God is not found outside but within.

Once someone asked Sri Bhagavan: Bhagavan!  What will you say if Siva appears before you?"  Sri Bhagavan smiled and said: "I shall tell him not to have this coming and going business with me. Stay in my Heart."   



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 14, 2011, 08:39:59 AM
yes i have heard that incident andi.

There is only one state, that is consciousness, or awareness or existence.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 14, 2011, 10:58:36 AM


Dear prasanth,

Someone asked Sri Bhagavan: Why should God create Maya?

Sri Bhagavan: Where is Maya from?  Maya is also from God or
Consciousness. There is only Consciousness.  The manifesting
power of Consciousness is Maya.



Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 15, 2011, 10:14:57 AM
Only when the ever-present Consciousness is realized will it be permanent.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 17, 2011, 10:08:16 AM
The one unalterable reality is being. Until you realize that state of pure being you should pursue the inquiry.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 17, 2011, 10:15:33 AM
When one's own true nature is known, then there is being without beginning and end. It is unbroken awareness -- bliss.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 17, 2011, 08:50:12 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Very true. In the Asramam which I visited for three days from
15th June, I and my wife could meet one Swami Shananada Shiva Puri
Swamigal. He said a story:

One man thinks that he is a horse. He is going all over the places braying like a horse. He says he will eat only horsegram. Someone suggested to him to go to Temples and pray.  He went to 100 temples and in all the temples, he was braying and people threw him out. Some other person told him to try yoga. He tried. But for each inhaling breath and exhaling breath he was braying like a horse. Someone then suggested him to do some karma. He said that he can only draw a cart and do nothing else, since he imagined that he is a horse. Finally, he came to a Jnana Guru.  The Jnana Guru looked at him with graceful eyes and said:  See you are a man. You are a man. You are a man. You stay with me for some time and keep on saying I am a man, I am a man, I am a man.

The man who was imagining that he was a horse really became a man.




Arunachala Siva.     
   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 18, 2011, 07:15:49 PM
very nice to hear that you went to sacred ramana ashramam sir.

I think there is lot of construction work going on currently and there might be shortage of rooms?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 18, 2011, 07:46:49 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. I had been to Tiruvannamalai for three days from 15th June 2011.
Since the entire Morvi Guest House is demolished and new rooms for 2 people, 3 people, 4 people etc., are being constructed. It might take some 6 months. Hence the Asramam had to manage with the existing Korangu Thottam guest house and Post Office Road guesthouse. I applied for approval for stay in June, sometime in April itself and I could get positive response.  The visit was quite satisfying. On day 1, I and my wife  spent the entire time in Asramam only.  On day 2, we had been to giri valam and afterwards spent the time in Asramam. Since it was the first day of Tamkizh month, Aani, [Jeshta], there was a Sri Chakra Puja for Mother temple's Meru. Ilayaraja had come to Asramam to take part in the pujas. On day 3, we spent time in Big Temple and had good darshan of Arunachaleswara and Apeeta Kuchambal. We bought some books in book stall. We started our return journey about 2 pm. and day 3, and reached Bangalore by 7 pm.

I bough the following books:

1.Spiritual Stories as told by Sri Bhagavan - a collection of all the stories told by Him during His conversations.
2. Direct Teaching of Sri Bhagavan Ramana - by V. Ganesan, a 1998 edition reprinted.   
3. Separate book on the Recollections of Suri Nagamma. new edition.
4. Aruna of the Golden Fire - Sri Ramana's Linga,m of Wisdom and
    Light. A book with a large number of photographs of Sri Bhagavan
    and Arunachala, by Michael Highburger.
5. Separate book of recollections of T.R. Kanakammal, new edition,
    under the title Cherished Memories.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 20, 2011, 09:37:52 AM
very nice to read about your Tiruvannamalai trip andi.

you are very lucky indeed.

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 21, 2011, 01:48:21 AM
"I AM That I AM," which implies the metaphysical dictum that the proof of existence is existence itself.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 21, 2011, 09:26:59 AM


Dear prasanth,

The "I am" - ness or Existence is experiential and it cannot be
pointed out or objectified. Sri Muruganar calls it as suttarivu in
Tamizh, 'the knowledge obtained through someone pointing it out.'

But Existence cannot be pointed out. It is experiential and that is
the proof for one who has experienced.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 22, 2011, 02:35:34 AM
Did I ever say that the world is there because of you? I have put to you the question, "What is there without Self?" You must know that by the Self, the body -- subtle or gross -- is not meant.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 23, 2011, 10:16:42 AM
All that you see depends on the seer. Apart from the seer there is no seen.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 23, 2011, 01:56:38 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. In the deep sleep state, there is only seer and nothing is seen.  Sushupti example is given by Sri Bhagavan, many many times in Talks.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 24, 2011, 10:10:40 AM
He that sees the Self sees the Divine.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 27, 2011, 10:19:59 AM
Turn the mind inward and search for the seer; you find that you are the seer and the objective world does not exist.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 27, 2011, 10:35:01 AM


Dear prasanth,

What is Real is only the Self. All other things like
world, jiva and Iswara are unreal.  They are all
imaginations or incorrect perceptions or super
impositions like silver in the oyster shell.

One should turn one's attention to the Self within
to realize the Real, the Self.



Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramanaduli on June 27, 2011, 12:05:14 PM

Dear Subramaniyan ji,


There are no two "Self"s. Only one is ever present. But due to the ignorance "mind" takes birth from the same self. Due to mind karmas take place. By the grace of Guru and with the correct understanding, we come to know we are not mind. We are self, which is real. 

Another thing, while we are reading scriptures, it is not necessary for inquiery because there would not mind's activities. I think, when we come to the world we should have the inqirey for not to fall in the hands of the "Mind". This is my poor understanding.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 27, 2011, 01:54:31 PM


Dear Ramanaduli,

Your understanding is correct.  There is only one
Self. The mind for sometime, thinks it is the self,
and acts as per its whims and fancies. That is why
we see people telling:

I have understood
I have not understood.

Are there two selves within, one to understand, and another to not understand ?
 
There is only one Self. When the mind goes in conjunction with It., it understands.
When the mind does not go in conjunction with it, it does not understand.
That is all.



Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 28, 2011, 10:30:28 AM
Let your will be my pleasure, Oh Arunachala! As soon as you did claim me, my body and soul became yours. What else can I desire?

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 29, 2011, 10:16:24 AM
To one who has destroyed himself (his ego) and is awake to his nature as bliss, what remains to be accomplished? He does not see anything (as being) other than himself. Who can comprehend his state?

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 29, 2011, 11:47:45 AM


Dear prasanth,

This is beautifully versified in ULLadu Narpadu, Verse 31:



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 01, 2011, 10:03:22 AM
Although the scriptures proclaim, "That Thou art," it is a sign of weakness to meditate (affirm): "I am not this but That," instead of inquiring what one is and remaining so; for one is always That.

It is absurd to say either: "I have not realized the Self," or "I have realized the Self." Why? Are there two selves for one to be the object of the other? It is the experience of all that it (the Self) is one.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 04, 2011, 10:09:34 AM
1. Question: You say one can realize the Self by a search for it. What is the character of this search?

Bhagavan: You are the mind, or think you are the mind. The mind is nothing but thoughts. However, behind every particular thought there is a general knowing that is pure Awareness, which is your true Self. Let us all simply hold firmly to this "I," the first thought. Stick to this "I"-thought and question it, to find out "From whence is it." When this question takes strong hold on you, you cannot think of any other thoughts; stick only with this single "I"-thought.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 04, 2011, 02:20:29 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes.  This is what has been beautifully described by Sri Bhagavan in Verses 28 and 29 of
ULLadu Narpadu:

Verse 28: Controlling speech and breath, and diving deep within oneself -- like one, who,
to find a thing that has fallen deep into water, dives deep down,  -- one must seek out the
source whence the aspiring ego springs.

Verse 29: Cease all talk of 'I' and search with inward diving mind, whence the thought of
'I' springs up. This is the way of wisdom. To think, "I am not this, but That I am", is helpful
in the search, but it is not the search itself.



Arunachala Siva.         
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 05, 2011, 10:09:02 AM
well said Subramanian garu neti neti method is also quite useful.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 05, 2011, 10:11:36 AM
2. Question: When I do like this, and cling to my self, i.e. the "I"-thought, then other thoughts do come and go, but I say to myself, "Who am I?" and there is no answer forthcoming. To be in this condition (where there is mind, but no thought) is itself the sadhana (method of spiritual practice). Is it so?

Bhagavan: No. This is a mistake that people often make. What happens when you make a serious quest for the Self is that the "I"-thought, as a thought, disappears; then something else from the depths takes hold of you. However, that is not the "I" with which you first commenced the quest.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 05, 2011, 03:08:07 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes.  This is exactly what Sri Bhagavan describes
in ULLadu Narpadu - Verse 30:

"When the mind turns inward seeking 'Who am I?'
and merges in the Heart, then the 'I' hangs down his
head in shame and the ONE 'I' appears as Itself.
Though, it appears as "I-I", it is not the ego. It is
Reality, Perfection, the Substance of the Self."



Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 06, 2011, 10:14:05 AM
3. Question: What is this something else?

Bhagavan: That is the real Self, the import of "I." It is not the ego. It is the Supreme Being itself.
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Post by: ramanaduli on July 06, 2011, 03:14:01 PM
Dear sir,

In day to day life we need ego. How we can live without ego in day to life without ego.  In this way, most people are not doing on ego basis what I found it in political and big business field.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: amiatall on July 06, 2011, 04:22:07 PM
Dear ramanaduli,

Do we really need ego? I am not sure about this.  ::)
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 06, 2011, 04:38:45 PM


Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes. What amiatall says is correct.  One can do all the work in this world,  contemplating on
the Self within. There is no need for ego.  Do we not sleep without ego?  What is more
blissful than deep sleep in one's life? So for waking state also, as in deep sleep, one
can go about working without ego.



Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 07, 2011, 10:12:22 AM
4. Question: What is the way to get rid of other thoughts?

Bhagavan: They can only be removed through the powerful effect of the inquiry, "To whom have these thoughts come?" and then abiding in the Self.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 08, 2011, 10:07:01 AM
5. Question: In Self-Inquiry, to whom is the question "Who am I?" addressed?

Bhagavan: To whomever or whatever you are, is given the way for finding out your true identity. The ego-self, when it feels the necessity to know its own origin; or is, for whatever reason, impelled to rise above itself, takes the suggestion and goes deeper; and there, discovers the true source and reality of itself. So, the ego-self of first, in beginning to know itself, ends in perceiving its Self.

It is therefore the ego, or body-mind, that begins the quest.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 08, 2011, 04:32:48 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Atma does not require any vichara. Atma Vichara
is only to investigate the anatma - the ego self.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 11, 2011, 09:59:04 AM
6. Question: If I go on rejecting thoughts as they arise, can I call it vichara (the practice of Self-Inquiry)?

Bhagavan: It may be a start or a stepping-stone; but really, vichara begins when you hold firmly to your (true) Self and are already off the mental movement or succession of thought-waves.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 11, 2011, 02:56:11 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Though Sri Bhagavan speaks about neti neti method in the beginning of Who am I?,
later under question No. 8, He says, "....When one persistently inquires into the nature of the mind,
the mind will end leaving the Self as the residue. What is referred to as the Self is the Atman...."
He also says in No. 9 "....Even if one thinks constantly as "I", "I", one will be lead to that place...."



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 12, 2011, 10:09:33 AM
7. Question: Is rejection of thoughts not necessary?

Bhagavan: No. It may be necessary for a time or for some. You fancy that there is no end if one goes on rejecting every thought when it arises. No. There is an end. If you are vigilant, and make a sustained effort to reject every thought when it rises, you will soon find that you are going deeper and deeper into your own inner self, where there is no need for your effort to reject the thoughts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 13, 2011, 10:29:07 AM
8. Question: Then it is possible to be without effort, without strain?

Bhagavan: Not only that, it is impossible for you to make an effort beyond a certain extent.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 13, 2011, 11:33:21 AM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan says in Who am I? also that "as long as there are enemy soldiers inside the Fort,
they will be coming out to fight.  As you keep on killing them [rejecting the thoughts], the Fort will become empty. After which, where will there be any  more soldiers? [thoughts].. The Fort is in
your hands." 

There will be no need to reject thoughts or kill soldiers.  Thereafter no effort to fight also becomes
necessary.



Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 14, 2011, 10:07:14 AM
9. Question: I want to be further enlightened. Should I try to make no effort at all?

Bhagavan: Here (or now) it is impossible for you to be without effort. When you go deeper, it is impossible for you to make any effort.

10. Question: Then I can dispense with outside help and by my own effort get into the deeper truth by myself?

Bhagavan: True. However, the very fact that you are possessed of the quest of the Self is a manifestation of the Divine Grace. It is effulgent (self-shining) in the Heart, the inner being, the Real Self. It draws you from within. You have to attempt to get it from without. Your attempt is vichara (the practice of Self-Inquiry).
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 14, 2011, 06:20:55 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Unless Grace is coupled with true and honest self enquiry or
self surrender, one cannot succeed in realization.  This is what
Sri Bhagavan says in Atma Vidya Kirtanam also.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 15, 2011, 10:05:45 AM
11. Question: Then vichara (the practice of Self-Inquiry) is not intellectual?

Bhagavan: No, it is anthara vichara, or the inner quest.

12. Question: What is the practice?

Bhagavan: To stick to a single position un-assailed by thoughts is abhyasa (practice) or sadhana (a method of spiritual practice), you are (thereby being) watchful. But, the condition grows intense and deeper when your effort and all responsibilities are taken away from you; that is arudha (attainment), or the siddha (perfect) state.
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13. Question: Can a man move about, act, and speak as one who has attained the siddhi (perfection) as is now described?

Bhagavan: Why not? Do you mean to say that realization of the Self means to be like a stone, or to become nothing?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 18, 2011, 12:50:50 PM


Dear prasanth,

This question,  regarding a Jnani's state in Sahaja Stithi, has been asked to Sri Bhagavan, a number of times.  He has at one conversation said: "If a Jnani [in Sahaja Stithi], should remain idle,
how we could have got all the scriptures of  Sri Sankara and others?  A Jnani in Sahaja Stithi
can do anything in life, since his ego is lost and he has no doership at all.  In fact, one Kaduveli
Siddhar has even married to a dancing girl [at her request] and has got a child too."

Once Rangan, the class mate of Sri Bhagavan came to the Asramam and both were going for
a bath and they were talking intimate things in  a jovial way. Rangan asked Sri Bhagavan, [after
knowing from Him that a Brahma Jnani can do anything after realization]: "Bhagavan, can a
Jnani marry also?"  Sri Bhagavan smiled and said: Hm....Hm.....

After many years, Rangan's son who had heard this conversation from his
father, has written a small book in Tamizh called "Sri Ramana Jnana Vivaham"
This book of poems was available in the Asramam and I bought a copy in 2008.  There
is no reprint. I am  not sure whether it is still available.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 18, 2011, 10:48:34 PM
Yes sir it is a snake whose poison has been taken out..

with humans it is like work done after 99% of the ego is killed.

hence all work done after that will be pure satvic.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 19, 2011, 10:15:00 AM
15. Question: Do you mean the Atman (Self) is God?

Bhagavan: You see the difficulty. The vichara (quest) "to know the self" is different in method from the meditation "Shivoham" or "Soham," (I am Siva [God] or He I am). I rather lay stress upon self-knowledge. For, you are first concerned with yourself before you proceed to know the world and its Lord. The "Soham" meditation or "I am Braham" meditation is more or less a mental thought. But the quest for the Self I speak of is a direct method, indeed superior to the other meditation. For, the moment you get into the quest for the Self, and go deeper and deeper, the real Self is waiting there to take you in; and then, whatever is done, is done by something else and you have no hand in it. In this process, all doubts and discussions are automatically given up, just as one who sleeps forgets for the time being all his cares.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 19, 2011, 03:10:37 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan did not approve the method of saying
I am Siva, Soham. Because, this again is only a thought.
Instead of thinking Siva, one should become Siva. That is
Siva bodham.



Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 20, 2011, 10:19:20 AM
16. Question: What certainty is there, that something else waits there to welcome me?

Bhagavan: When one is a sufficiently developed soul, he becomes naturally convinced.

17. Question: How is this development possible?

Bhagavan: Various answers are given. However, whatever the previous development, vichara (an earnest inquiry or quest into the true nature of the self) quickens the development.

18.    Question: That is arguing in a circle. I am developed and so am strong for the quest. The quest itself gives my development.

Bhagavan: The mind always has this sort of difficulty. It wants a certain, definite theory to satisfy itself. Really, no theory is necessary for the man who seriously desires to approach God, or to realize his own true being.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 20, 2011, 11:44:49 AM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. God realization is an experience and not a description of a state.
That is why, Sri Bhagavan used to say that a Jnani 's state cannot be
described either by himself or by others. It can only be experienced.
The Self inquiry is only a guidance. The goal has to be experienced.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 21, 2011, 10:07:40 AM
19. Question: I am doing propaganda work by publishing religious teachings. I do japa, mantra, writing, singing the praises and exploits of the Lord, study, and instructions. Should I continue with this or not? In other words, while I am conducting the inquiry "Who am I?" should I continue with all the above work?

Bhagavan: If you want to do all these works and are able to do so without giving up Self-Inquiry, you may do so. The work will go on in accordance with your prarabdha (allotted destiny). You must first, though, understand what is the purpose of japa, (repetition of a mantra or the name of God) of singing and service. Be as you are. Reality is the real japa; japa and God are one. There is identity between the name and the thing named.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 21, 2011, 10:46:28 AM


Dear prasanth,

There one brahmin and a priest who was an expert in astrology.  He
was sought after by many people to tell about stolen goods, marriages
of their daughters, health etc.,  He was correct in his prediction and
he made a good lot of money in this. 

He was called by the Asramam to do puja for Mother's Temple. He
readily agreed and losing all his income, for a petty salary, he came
to work in the Asramam. When someone asked him how he had selected
this job, leaving more lucrative job, he answered: Here is where, I am
able to Atma Vichara while working. Not in other jobs.

So, all jobs of writing, lecturing etc., cannot be done, in my view,
along with Atma Vichara.  If one can do so, it is good. But Atma
Vichara can be done simultaneously only with a 'suitable work' that
can provide you food and shelter and not huge riches.



Arunachala Siva.         
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 22, 2011, 12:34:34 AM
Dear Subramanian garu,

I agree with you sir.

We cannot suggest people to practice self enquiry who loot money,rape women,murder fellow beings and for people whose day job is promoting terroism etc ...
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 22, 2011, 10:10:02 AM
14. Question: I do not know, but they say that to withdraw from all sense-activity, from all thoughts, all life-experiences, i.e., to cease to be active, is the highest state.

Bhagavan: If so, what is the difference between this state and deep sleep? Besides, if it is a state, however exalted it be, that appears and disappears and is, therefore, not natural and normal to the self, how can that represent eternal presence of the supreme Self, which persists in all states and indeed survives them? It is true that there is such a state.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 22, 2011, 10:14:52 AM
20. Question: Who am I? To whom does the question refer?

Bhagavan: The question refers to the individual "I."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 25, 2011, 10:07:13 AM
21. Question: Should I say "I am Siva" along with the inquiry "Who am I?" Should I not say, "I am not the mind, intellect, body, etc.?"

Bhagavan: You should not give answers to the mind, in the course of your inquiry. The reply should be allowed to come from within. The reply of the individual "I" is not real. Continue to inquire until you get the answer by the method of Jnana Marga (the path of Knowledge). This inquiry is called meditation. The inactive, peaceful, full-of-knowledge experience that arises from this state is Jnana.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 25, 2011, 02:05:40 PM


Dear prasanth,

The Who am I?  enquiry should ultimately lead to an answer less state, where the mind becomes
quiescent and curls up into the Self.  Similarly the chanting of I am Siva is also, according to
Sri Bhagavan, incorrect. Sivoham, is the experience of Sivam that comes about after realization.



Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 26, 2011, 10:03:34 AM
22. Question: Who am I? From where (am I)? Should one constantly do japa (repetition) of this with the mind, or should one put the question once or twice before the mind then go deeply into the root of "I" and there stop all thoughts of the world?

Bhagavan: One is NOT to constantly repeat or do japa: "Who am I? Who am I?" Having put the question once before the mind, one should search for the root of the "I" and thereby stop all other thoughts. If a person's name is Dennis, it is not necessary for him to repeat, "I am Dennis, I am Dennis." Similarly, the repetition of the phrases such as "I am Brahman, I am Brahman" is not necessary. In all sadhanas (practices) the mind has to be kept quiet, silent, or still. While doing japa, the mind will not be quiet or still. Instead of practicing like this, the silent seer of the mind, meaning the witness, should be experienced as being the very form of Brahman, and thus Brahman should be experienced as being the witness of all.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 26, 2011, 02:54:10 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Who am I? is not a mantra to be used in japam. This
is a question posed to the anatma - the non-self, the ego or
the mind, and one should on mature sadhana, will get no
answers and the mind becomes quiescent in the Self.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 27, 2011, 10:07:41 AM
23. Question: How to control such a mind?

Bhagavan: Except for inquiry into the Self, there is no way that the mind can be controlled; it is destroyed.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 27, 2011, 01:11:07 PM


Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan describes this idea beautifully in His answer No. 12 to M. Sivaprakasam Pillai,
in Who am I?

Other than enquiry, there are no adequate means. If through other means it is sought to control
the mind, the mind will appear to be controlled, but will again go forth. Through the control of
breath also, the mind will become quiescent. But it  will be quiescent only so long as the breath
remains controlled and when the breath resumes,. the mind also will again start moving and will
wander as impelled by vasanas. The source  is the same for both mind and breath..... Therefore
the exercise of breath control is only an aid for rendering the mind quiescent [mano nigraha]
and not for destroying the mind [mano nasa].

Like the practice of breath control, meditation on the forms of  god, repetition of mantras, food
restrictions etc., are but aid for rendering the mind quiescent.

Through meditation on the form of god and through mantra japas, the mind becomes one pointed.
....When the mind is one pointed, it becomes strong and for such a mind self enquiry will become
easy.

Of all the restrictive rules, that  relating to the taking of sattvic food, in moderate quantities,
is the best. By observing this rule, the sattvic quality of mind will increase and that will be
helpful to Self Enquiry.



Arunachala Siva.   
     
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 27, 2011, 11:56:41 PM
yes sir it is very well said by bhagavan.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 28, 2011, 10:04:50 AM
24. Question: If the ultimate Reality is One and Absolute, why does the world appear as an object seen, and as different from the subject who sees it? Who is it that sees the object as distinct from himself, the subject?

Bhagavan: Who is it that is putting this question?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 28, 2011, 02:07:38 PM


Dear prasanth,

Nice. It is the ego which first gives rise to the I-thought and then the world.
If the I-thought, ego is killed there is no world to see, there is no other
to see.




Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 29, 2011, 10:08:16 AM
Bhagavan: Who is it that is putting this question?

25. Question: One who seeks the Truth.

Bhagavan: Who is he?

26. Question: He who desires to know the Truth.

Bhagavan: Instead of having a mere desire to know the Truth, if he has the anubhava (experience or realization) such questions as these would not arise.

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27. Question: The trinity (Triputi) of knower, known, and knowledge is an appearance; you say that there is a unity behind it, supporting it. What is this unity, is it a powerful one?

Bhagavan: It is an All-powerful existence.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 01, 2011, 11:14:49 AM
28. Question: How then should I know the "I?"

Bhagavan: By investigation into this question itself, and thereby will you get the experience or atmanubhuti. The ardent desire to know the Truth has a beneficial purpose to serve until one has such experience.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 01, 2011, 03:10:05 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes.  Intense longing for realizing the Truth is mumukshatvam.  This is the first requisite for an
ardent seeker.  Then he should commence his sadhana and the triputis will disappear once
the experience is gained.



Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 02, 2011, 10:09:42 AM
29. Question: In spite of having come to the definite conclusion as a result of one's own investigation, that "I" has no essential relation with the non-self i.e., with the body, senses, and the objects perceived by the senses the mind [still] persists in going after these very same things which constitute the non-self. What is it due to and how can it be remedied?

Bhagavan: It is due to a lack of abhyasa and vairagya (practice and dispassion). When Self-Inquiry has become steady [through unswerving] practice, and the spirit of renunciation firm through [reliable] conviction, your mind will be free from the tendency of thinking about the non-self.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 02, 2011, 03:51:52 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Non attachment and discrimination should be adopted for a long duration to keep the mind
steady in the Self, that would result in aham-sphurana.



Arunachala Siva.

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 03, 2011, 10:21:33 AM
30. Question: Is it enough if I spend some time in the mornings and some time in the evenings for this atma-vichara? (Self-Inquiry) Or, should I do it always say, even when I am writing or walking?

Bhagavan: Now what is your real nature? Is it writing, walking, or being? The one unalterable reality is Being. Until you realize that state of Pure Being, you should pursue the Inquiry. If once you are established in it, there will be no further worry.

No one will inquire into the source of thoughts unless thoughts arise. So long as you think, "I am walking," "I am writing," etc., inquire who does it.

These actions will however go on when one is firmly established in the Self. Does a man always say, " I am a man, I am a man, I am a man," every moment of his life? He does not say so, and yet all his actions are going on.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 04, 2011, 10:07:00 AM
31. Question: When I read Sri Bhagavan's works, I find that
investigation [Self-Inquiry] is set out to be the one method for Realization.

Bhagavan: Yes, that is the Vichara. The questioner must admit the existence of his Self. "I AM" is the Realization. To pursue the clue till Realization is Vichara. Vichara and Realization are the same. Meditation requires an object to meditate upon, whereas there is only the subject without the object in Vichara. Meditation differs from Vichara in this way.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 05, 2011, 10:10:22 AM
32. Question: What is the truth that I have to attain? Please explain it to me.

Bhagavan: What we have to attain, and what is desired by everyone, is endless happiness. Although we seek to attain it in various ways, it is [usually incorrectly looking] to something to be sought or attained as a new experience. [However] our real nature [in its purity] is the "I" feeling, which is always experienced [inwardly] by everyone. It is within us and nowhere else. Although we are always experiencing it, our minds are wandering, always seeking it [outside of us], thinking in ignorance that it is something apart from us. This is like a person saying with his own tongue that he has no tongue.

33. Question: If this is so, why did so many spiritual practices come to be created?

Bhagavan: The sadhanas (spiritual practices) arose only to get rid of the thought that it (the Self) is something to be newly attained. The root of the illusion is the thought that ignores the Self and thinks instead, "I am this body." Once this thought rises, it expands in no time into several thousand thoughts and conceals the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 08, 2011, 02:01:50 AM
34. Question: I am now peacefully sitting [knowing I am], without the thought "I am the body." Is this the state of reality?

Bhagavan: This state must remain as it is without any change. If it changes after a while you will know that other thoughts have not gone.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 09, 2011, 10:09:02 AM
35. Question: Because I have too much work to do, I keep forgetting to meditate. If I frequently forget like this, when am I going to make any progress?

Bhagavan: Never mind. Jnana (knowledge) will not come in a day. Samskaras (mental habits) will disappear only gradually. Today we may think every four hours, "Oh, I have forgotten to meditate." Tomorrow we may remember every 3 1/2 hours. The day after, every three hours. In this way enthusiasm for meditation will slowly come.

Why do you think, "Why didn't I meditate?" or "Why didn't I work?" If the thoughts "I did" and "I didn't" are given up, then all actions will end up as meditation. In that state meditation cannot be given up.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 10, 2011, 10:18:53 AM
36. Question: Mental activity during meditation does not seem to converge at a point, as it should, on the object of meditation; and it does not stay there, but gets diverted into numerous thought channels. Why is this so? How can the mind be made to overcome this tendency towards diffused thinking, and attain its primal state of freedom from thought?

Bhagavan: It is the mind's attachment to objects constituting the non-self, that makes the mind wander about during meditation. Therefore, the mind should be withdrawn from the non-self; and effort should be made to fix it in Self-Inquiry. All extraneous thought is effectively eliminated when you attune the entire mind to the one question, "Who is it that is making the inquiry?"
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 11, 2011, 09:56:27 AM
37. Question: In spite of having come to the definite conclusion, as a result of one's investigation, that the true "I" has no essential relation with the non-self, i.e., with the body, senses, and the objects perceived by the senses, the mind still persists in going after these very same things that constitute the non-self. What is it due to; and how can it be remedied?

Bhagavan: It is due to lack of practice (abhyasa) and dispassion of non-attachment (vairagya). When the Self-Inquiry has become steady through practice, and the spirit of renunciation is firm through conviction, your mind will be free from the tendency of thinking about the non-self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 12, 2011, 10:03:25 AM
38. Question: When my mind wanders during meditation, in spite of my attempts to control it, should I give it up?

Bhagavan: One need not abandon meditation, thinking that it is the nature of the mind to wander. Whatever one practices becomes natural. If control is practiced persistently, that will become natural.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 15, 2011, 10:01:34 AM
39. Question: What method should I use to make my mind steady and firm?

Bhagavan: It is sufficient to think always of one thing. If the mind does not obey, again start thinking of only one thing. In course of time, the mind will obey your orders.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 15, 2011, 03:46:21 PM


Dear prasanth,

This AHAM publications have published the English version of Sadhanai
Saram of Sri Sadhu Om [translated by Sri Sadhu Om himself and titled
as A Light on the Teaching of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi.  The
publishers are from Asheboro, NC, 27205, USA. However the copy is
available in one book shop in Bangalore.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 16, 2011, 10:03:49 AM
Thanks a lot for this info subramanian garu.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 16, 2011, 10:06:18 AM
40. Question: Sometimes there is meditation, at other times there are worldly activities. What is the difference between the two?

Bhagavan: To be in meditation and to be in activity are both the same. It is like calling the same object by its name in two different languages; like the crow only having one eye but seeing in two different directions; like the elephant using the same trunk for the two activities of breathing and drinking water; like the cobra using its eyes for the two functions of seeing and hearing.
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Post by: ramanaduli on August 16, 2011, 04:05:42 PM
Dear sirs,

Like meditation all other things like doing puja, chanting japa, holy dips, visiting temples are also activities. Is not it? Because for all these, we need mind. If we do meditation  without mind, it will not be activity.  That is thoughtless state.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 16, 2011, 05:13:33 PM


Dear Ramanaduli,

All pujas, japas, meditation on a god's form are all activities only. But they
 if properly done, become one pointed activity, which gives ekakrita -
single purpose activity and this in turns makes self inquiry easy.
What to do? Only with the mind, the mind should be destroyed, as
mentioned in Ashtakam, verse 5 by Sri Bhagavan.
 


Arunachala Siva.
Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 17, 2011, 10:01:52 AM
41. Question: Bhagavan, I have been meditating in your presence for some months, and now I am overcome with fear. Why?

Bhagavan: It is the ego that is experiencing the fear; it is due to the feeling that it is gradually losing its grip. It is dying and may resent it. [Ask yourself the] question, "To whom is the fear?" It is all due to the experience of identifying the Self with the body. Repeated experience from non-separation will make one familiar with the state, and the fear will automatically vanish.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 17, 2011, 11:06:22 AM


Dear prasanth,

It is a nice question and a nice answer by Sri Bhagavan.

All of us, or at least most of us, when we start self inquiry or self surrender, develops immense
fear. Why?  Because, we are not able to conceptualize a personality without ego.  The ego
does not leave us and it holds with an iron grip.  Because of this fear, which is caused by
the ego which is afraid of losing its identity, we get immense fear. Again, we come back to our
own self and this is a victory for the ego.  The ego does not want us to lose it so easily. It is
an unwanted and much dreaded cancer.



Arunachala Siva.





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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 18, 2011, 10:08:29 AM
well  said sir.


42. Question: What is a mind, which has a form and a mind without form?

Bhagavan: Pure mind is a space of emptiness. Immediately on waking from sleep, a clear awareness arises, without exception in all people. That is formless mind. Thoughts such as "I am the body," "This is the world," arise only after that, which is the mind with form. In a cinema show the light appears first, and the forms appear on the screen only after the light. Likewise, the light of the Self comes first and provides space for everything that follows.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 18, 2011, 11:31:52 AM


Dear prasanth,

Nochur Venkataraman says:  As soon as one wakes up, before the I-thought comes, for a small
fraction of a second, the pure "I" is experienced by everyone. This Pure "I", the state of Pure
Mind or Suddha Manas, if realized permanently, that is Self Realization.  Pure Mind is another
name for the Self. Muruganar has covered this aspect of Pure Mind in some of his verses in
Guru Vachaka Kovai.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 19, 2011, 10:01:11 AM
43. Question: What you say seems to contradict the statements that the Self is beyond the mind, that the mind cannot know Brahman (the absolute) that it is beyond thought and speech.

Bhagavan: That is why they say that mind is two fold; there is the higher pure mind as well as the lower impure mind. The impure mind cannot know this but the pure knows. It does not mean that the pure mind measures the immeasurable Self, the absolute. It means that the Self makes itself felt in the pure mind, so that even when you are in the midst of thoughts you feel the One Presence; you realize the truth that you are with the deeper Self and that the thought-waves are there only on the surface.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 19, 2011, 10:04:54 AM
44. That means "mano nasha" or "anankara nasha" (the destruction of the mind or ego) you speak of is then not an absolute destruction?

Bhagavan: Yes. The mind gets cleared of impurities and becomes pure enough to reflect the supreme truth, the real Self.
This is impossible when the ego is active and assertive.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 22, 2011, 09:59:13 AM
45. Question: Even when you clarify the truth, doubts come back.

Bhagavan: Doubts never end. If one doubt is removed, another takes its place. It is like removing the leaves of a tree one by one. Even if all the leaves are chipped off, new ones grow. The tree itself must be uprooted.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 22, 2011, 12:10:17 PM


Dear prasanth,

That is why Sri Bhagavan used to ask: Doubt the doubter.  The doubter is the ego.
Investigate the ego and you find that there is no ego, once you start investigating.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 23, 2011, 11:08:05 AM
46. Question: Why is there no progress in my spiritual practices?

Bhagavan: Why distress your mind by thinking that knowledge has come, or that such tendencies have not disappeared? Don't give room to any thoughts.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 23, 2011, 02:06:07 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. This distress is again for the little I. One should go past it.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 24, 2011, 11:33:09 AM
47. Question: What is the way to reality? Please show it.

Bhagavan: The work Ulladu Narpadu (Truth Revealed) imparts pure truth; it deals with it and explains it. You should go on reading it verse by verse. In course of due time the words of the verses will vanish and pure truth alone will shine like a snake relinquishing its skin and coming out shining. This itself is sadhana (spiritual practice).
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 24, 2011, 05:20:38 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Nochur Venkataraman says that the two benedictory verses of ULLadu Narpadu
alone will do. One speak of self inquiry and the second speaks of self surrender.
If one could read it again and again, this alone is sufficient.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 25, 2011, 11:22:49 AM
48. Question: While sitting near you, what sort of mental state should we have so as to receive the transmission from your pure being, or Self?

Bhagavan: Keep your mind still, that is enough. You will get spiritual help sitting in this hall if you keep yourself still. The aim of all practices is to give up all practices. When the mind becomes still, the power of the Self will be experienced. The (underlying) waves of the Self are pervading everywhere. If the mind is at peace, one begins to experience them.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 25, 2011, 03:06:36 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. In the Old Hall, many devotees used to show many different characteristics. Some like
Devaraja Mudaliar used to ask many questions to Sri Bhagavan. A few would always keep silent,
and look at Sri Bhagavan's face and also His words which He spoke on His own without any
questions. The second type of devotees got better benefits.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 25, 2011, 11:47:51 PM
well said Subramanian garu.

people falling in 2nd category are the most blessed ones.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 26, 2011, 10:01:26 AM
49. Question: Which is better for me, to gaze at your eyes or your face? Or, should I sit with closed eyes and concentrate my mind on a particular thing?

Bhagavan: Gaze at your own real nature. It is immaterial whether the eyes are open or closed. Everywhere there is only the One Presence, so it is all the same whether you keep your eyes open or closed.

If you wish to meditate, do so on the "I" that is within you. It is Atman (the Self). Because it has no eyes, there is no need either to open or close the eyes. When you attain Self-Knowledge, there will no longer be any ideas about the world. If you abide in the state of Reality, it is all the same whether the eyes are open or closed. It matters little whether external activities go on or not.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 26, 2011, 01:54:18 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Opening eyes or closed eyes during meditation - is left to the
practicer.  One can follow any one method, but one should do meditation
on the Self within.  Sri Bhagavan however, specifically advised
Annamalai Swami to do meditation with open eyes. Perhaps He considered
that that particular method was more suitable to him.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 29, 2011, 01:15:02 PM
50. Question: Should I sit in a particular posture, and sit on a grass mat to meditate?

Bhagavan: Stability in the Self is the real posture. In what posture will Atman (the Self) sit? It is wrong to say that there is no Self-Knowledge without particular postures; the Self has no need of them. The compulsion of having a particular kind of posture makes the mind get agitated.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 29, 2011, 03:35:51 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan said: Any sukasana is good.  The posture should give
you  comfort to enable you to meditate. That is all.



Arunachala Siva.
 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 30, 2011, 10:07:17 AM
51. Question: How to uproot or end the weariness, fear, and anxiety that arise during meditation?

Bhagavan: Find out to whom these questions occur. By conducting this inquiry, these things will disappear. These things are impermanent, they are just more thoughts. Do not pay attention to them. When there is knowledge of duality, fear arises. Fear only comes when you think that there are "others" apart from you. If you direct your mind towards the Self, fear and anxiety will go away.

In your present state, when the mind is agitated, if you remove one kind of fear, another will rise up and there will be no end to them. It is a laborious task to pluck the leaves off a tree one by one. The "I" feeling is the root of all thoughts. If you destroy the root, the leaves and branches will wither away. Instead of forming bad habits and then taking medicine for them, it is better to see that such bad habits are not formed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 31, 2011, 10:02:22 AM
52. Question: How to meditate?

Bhagavan: Being aware of the Self is the real meditation. When the mind gives up its habit of choosing and deciding, it then turns towards its own real nature. At that time, it gets into the fundamental state. When the ego gets or stays more powerful, entry into this state does not take place.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 01, 2011, 05:07:48 PM
53. Question: What must I do to avoid sleep during my meditation?

Bhagavan: Meditators must not work too much, nor should they fill their stomachs with excessive food. The more one fills the stomach, the lower one's mental state becomes. If the stomach is mostly empty, one will go higher spiritually. One should not tighten the strings of the veena (stringed musical instrument) either too much or too little. The body must be kept like that.

Likewise with sleep. One third of the night has been allotted for sleep. That is, one must go to bed at 10 p.m. and wake up at 2 a.m. One should not sleep during the daytime. There is another system also. One should get up whenever one wakes up and one should sleep whenever sleep comes. But, one should not think, "I slept" or "I woke up." Here, it is the thought I that is the problem.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 02, 2011, 09:58:48 AM
54. Question: Why is it that during meditation I am often prone to sleep?

Bhagavan: Of course one should be alert in Sadhana (spiritual practice) and guard against sleep as far as one can. But, if sleep does overpower you, it does not matter. The moment you wake up, you catch up the current of your meditation and continue. So, sleep will prove no hindrance. However, practice to always stay alert during your chosen or scheduled time for Sadhana.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 02, 2011, 08:46:12 PM


Dear prasanth,

I was away in T'malai for Arunai Vijayam Day of Sri Bhagavan, i.e.
1st Sept.  2011.

Sleep is  usually comes for beginners. After continuing meditation
for long periods on different days, sleep can be overcome. Sri
Bhagavan says even if sleep comes, it does not matter, one
can pursue meditation upon waking.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 05, 2011, 10:04:30 AM
55. Question: The scriptures say that attention should be placed at the center between the eyebrows. Is this correct?

Bhagavan: The feeling "I AM" is directly evident to everyone. What happiness is there in seeing any particular God if one ignores this feeling? There is no foolishness like that of thinking that God exists only in certain spots such as the place between the eyebrows. Fixing the attention on these spots or locations is just a violent form of sadhana (spiritual practice) whose aim is to concentrate the mind in order to prevent it from running everywhere. Inquiring, "Who Am I?" is a much easier method of controlling the mind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 06, 2011, 09:52:48 AM
56. Question: I am often tempted to try other centers (of concentration), such as the base of the mind, the tip of the nose, and the space between the eyebrows. What does Bhagavan think about it?

Bhagavan: When the Heart center is there (is present), why not go directly to it instead of going through other centers? To come to Tiruvannamalai from Madras (in South India), why should you go to Banaras (in North India) first and come down all the way, or why go to Rameswaram (another city further south in India) and come up here. Why not come straight?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 06, 2011, 01:52:13 PM


Dear prasanth,

This is one of the humorous replies given by Sri Bhagavan.  Attention towards the Heart is Self
attention and this is a direct path.  Concentrating on other centers are yogic methods which are
quite tough to practice and there the mind gets only suspended for some time and when yoga
practice is complete, the mind again jumps out towards world, and the worldly objects.  There is
no mano-nasa in such practices.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 07, 2011, 10:03:43 AM
57. Question: Some people advise that one should concentrate on the center of the eyebrows. Is this correct?

Bhagavan: What is important is (ones) determination. The source of everything is the Heart. Merge the mind in it. Attention to the "I" source should not be given up. Ceaseless effort is needed. The more one practices the easier it will become, naturally bearing fruit at the right time.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 08, 2011, 09:59:51 AM
58. Question: I have come here for many years. Some people meditate and soon get into samadhi (absolute or pure awareness). I close my eyes for a minute and the mind travels around the world ten times, and so many long forgotten things come up.

Bhagavan: Why do you concern yourself about others? They may meditate or sleep and snore. Look to yourself. Whenever the mind goes astray, bring it back to the quest. There is a verse in the Bhagavad Gita, which says: "To whatever side the restless, unsteady mind wanders away, we should check it and bring it back controlled, to the Self." The child who was woken up and given milk after it had gone to sleep, says to its mother the next morning, "Mother, you never gave me milk last night." Even so, you (too have) had your fill.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 08, 2011, 01:47:55 PM


Dear prasanth,

We have to simply pursue self inquiry or self surrender.  We cannot
compare with others.  Our job is not to compare as if it is a school
examination. One may attain realization immediately and another may
attain it later. Another one may not attain it at all in this birth. However,
his efforts do not go a waste. He will start from where he left off in this
birth.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 09, 2011, 10:03:16 AM
well said sir.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 09, 2011, 10:04:25 AM
59. Question: Mental activity during meditation does not seem to converge at a point, as it should, on the object of meditation; and it does not stay there but gets diverted into numerous thought channels. Why is it so? How can the mind be made to overcome this tendency toward diffuse thinking and attain its primal state of freedom from thought?

Bhagavan: It is the mind's attachment to objects, constituting the non-self, which makes the mind wander about during meditation. Therefore, the mind should be withdrawn from the non-self, and an effort should be made to fix it in Self-Inquiry. All extraneous thought is effectively eliminated when you attune the entire mind to the one question, "Who is it that is making the inquiry?"
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Post by: Nagaraj on September 09, 2011, 12:24:53 PM
This Response by Bhagavan is actually not quite simple as it reads. I am baffled a the "state" of Bhagavan, its puzzling each and every cell of my body. Even Great Jnani's like HH Chandrashekhara Saraswathi Swamigal (Kanchi) and HH Sachchidananda Sivabhinava Narasimha (Sringeri) Swamigal had such great respect and adored Bhagavan. Ganapathy Sastrigal himself had hundreds of followers and He Himself was seen as a Rishi by many of his followers, He too was puzzled and baffled at Bhagavan's "State" Bhagavan was the Highest manifestation of absolute "Poornatvam" unparalleled.

Bhagavan's simplicity actually casts some illusions because he was so very humble and ordinary to our eyes. Moreover, His direct devotees like Muruganar, Nayaya and others were no ordinary devotees, they were verily like the 63 Nayanmars and Bhagavan is Saakshat Sivan Himself.

Where do we stand in the entire scheme? We have to do our Sadhana with utmost sincerity and purify our minds. And honestly, this enquiry has even baffled great devotees like Muruganar and Nayana as well. How are we to fare then?

We have to purify our mind first with other aids along with Bhagavan's guidance. Simple practice of Japa and other traditional rituals, etc... are great purifier and restricts the outgoing mind and brings back the focus on Japa or the ritual that we are doing.

Once our mind gets purified, then the Self Enquiry will be most effective. Like Bhagavan says -

"Gunpowder catches fire in an instant, while it takes time to ignite coal"

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: amiatall on September 09, 2011, 07:40:12 PM
This Response by Bhagavan is actually not quite simple as it reads. I am baffled a the "state" of Bhagavan, its puzzling each and every cell of my body. Even Great Jnani's like HH Chandrashekhara Saraswathi Swamigal (Kanchi) and HH Sachchidananda Sivabhinava Narasimha (Sringeri) Swamigal had such great respect and adored Bhagavan. Ganapathy Sastrigal himself had hundreds of followers and He Himself was seen as a Rishi by many of his followers, He too was puzzled and baffled at Bhagavan's "State" Bhagavan was the Highest manifestation of absolute "Poornatvam" unparalleled.

Bhagavan's simplicity actually casts some illusions because he was so very humble and ordinary to our eyes. Moreover, His direct devotees like Muruganar, Nayaya and others were no ordinary devotees, they were verily like the 63 Nayanmars and Bhagavan is Saakshat Sivan Himself.

Where do we stand in the entire scheme? We have to do our Sadhana with utmost sincerity and purify our minds. And honestly, this enquiry has even baffled great devotees like Muruganar and Nayana as well. How are we to fare then?

We have to purify our mind first with other aids along with Bhagavan's guidance. Simple practice of Japa and other traditional rituals, etc... are great purifier and restricts the outgoing mind and brings back the focus on Japa or the ritual that we are doing.

Once our mind gets purified, then the Self Enquiry will be most effective. Like Bhagavan says -

"Gunpowder catches fire in an instant, while it takes time to ignite coal"

Salutations to Bhagavan

Dear Nagaraj,

Ramana Maharshi summed up his technique:
What is essential in any sadhana [practice] is to try to bring back the running mind and fix it on one thing only. Why then should it not be brought back and fixed in Self-attention? That alone is Self-enquiry (atma-vicara). That is all that is to be done!


Why not go straight? As this practice itself purifies mind.
Just saying.

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Post by: Nagaraj on September 10, 2011, 10:23:10 AM
Dear Amiatall,

I have personally observed in my case atleast that Self Enquiry has been more effective along with the practice with other light daily traditionally practiced rituals and without that Self Enquiry is less effective and some times just a mere exercise!

Even Bhagavan had asked only Muruganar and Ramanatha Brahmachari alone to leave their rituals and for instance when some devotee saw Bhagavan tell Muruganar that he need no more do any rituals and he too stopped all his rituals and practices, and when this came to Bhagavan's notice, he told him to resume his rituals and practices and that applied only to Muruganar and not others and he always encouraged them to practice pranayama, Eating light and satwic food, etc... Ganapati Muni was complete ritualist. He did so much Japa and gave mantra Dheeksha to many Devotees at Ramanashramam as well.

कायवांमनःकार्यमुत्तमम् ।
पूजनं जपश्चिन्तनं क्रमात् ॥ (4)

Ritual worship, repetition of sacred names, and meditation are done with the body, the speech, and the mind, and they progress in excellence in that order.

and I realised that we have to move in that order only. Directly to be able to progress from the last stage is not easy/wise unless we have some poorva Janma sukrutham (benefit due to Past Life sadhana)

These rituals complement/help/support ones ability to concentrate and helps make our Self Enquiry like the flow of the Ghee -

आज्यधारया स्रोतसा समम् ।
सरलचिन्तनम् विरलतः परं ॥ (7)

Like an unbroken flow of oil or a stream of water,
continuous meditation is better than that which is interrupted.

I feel, most of us would not be able to practice Self Enquiry so constantly without any breaks as described above. We are surely caught up with our share of Prarabdhas and karmas and we are able to practice only for some time everyday or at most a maximum for few hours may be; and at other times we are definitely caught up with some thing or the other irrelevant or worldly!

Regular practice of our Nithya Karmas, chanting shlokas, etc... disciplines our mind further so as to be able to effectively be able to invoke our minds constantly to abide within the outgoing mind. Bhagavan initiated Self Enquiry to Ganapati Muni through Hi Japa Sadhana only i.e. observing the source of the Mantra, observing the source of the sound, where from it is coming from... as one does Japa.

Very few would be able to practice such levels of Pure Self Enquiry and their minds would be absolutely pure. And great devotees such as Muruganar and Ganapati Muni themselves have expressed their bewilderments directly or indirectly through their poems and shlokas they have composed. We are much much less compared to such great devotees! We should take aid of Praanayama/Yoga/Japa and the traditional practices of our families as the case may be (Hindu/Muslim/Christ)

Adding one more though -

I feel, Bhagavans teaching is not a new separate Sadhana, I mean, it has to be inculcated in what we are already doing, i.e. Hindu by being a better Hindu, A Christian by being  a better Christian and a Muslim by being a better Muslim with the essential ingredient of Bhagavan's teaching/Revelation.

Inculcating this Enquiry while chanting prayers, while doing Japa, or while doing Namaz or while while doing their prayers or psalms. any ways.

All religions is Bhagavan's religion or no religion is Bhagavan's religion!

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 10, 2011, 01:55:58 PM


Yes. Sri Bhagavan's Self-hood experience has come in twenty minutes or
so.  He attained the state of sahaja samadhi, without reading any scriptures
worth the name, [excepting Periya Puranam, and Tayumanavar and Bible
lessons from school], and He did not even know the words Brahman etc.,
But His path is not suited to most of us. We go step by step, rituals, meditation,
and then self inquiry.  Sri Bhagavan Himself has said once: Perhaps I might
have completed these preliminaries in my earlier births.



Arunachala Siva.. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 12, 2011, 10:06:43 AM
60. Question: How can I gain steadiness in practice?

Bhagavan: Only through more practice.
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Post by: amiatall on September 12, 2011, 05:37:09 PM
Dear Nagaraj,

Yes, I see your point.
If we look closely self-inquiry in itself is not a meditation, one can do self fit practices and yet at the same time practice and watch to whom or whence all this arise. It makes mind penetrate deeper.
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Post by: Nagaraj on September 12, 2011, 05:37:58 PM
Dear Prashant,

In the Gita, Arjuna asks Bhagavan in desperation -

अर्जुन उवाच ।

यॊ‌உयं यॊगस्त्वया प्रॊक्तः साम्यॆन मधुसूदन ।
ऎतस्याहं न पश्यामि चञ्चलत्वात्स्थितिं स्थिराम् ॥ 33 ॥


Krishna, owing to restelssness of my mind, I do not see the steady continuance of this equanimity You have spoken of!

चञ्चलं हि मनः कृष्ण प्रमाथि बलवद्दृढम् ।
तस्याहं निग्रहं मन्यॆ वायॊरिव सुदुष्करम् ॥ 34 ॥


for, the mind is VERY UNSTEADY, TURBULENT, TENACIOUS and POWERFUL; therefore; I consider it as VERY DIFFICULT to control my mind which is like the wind!

Krishna Says

श्रीभगवानुवाच ।

असंशयं महाबाहॊ मनॊ दुर्निग्रहं चलम् ।
अभ्यासॆन तु कौन्तॆय वैराग्यॆण च गृह्यतॆ ॥ 35 ॥


The mind is restless NO DOUBT, and difficult to curb it O Mahabaho; but it can be brought under control by REPEATED PRACTICE of meditation and by the exercise of dispassion O Kaunateya.

असंयतात्मना यॊगॊ दुष्प्राप इति मॆ मतिः ।
वश्यात्मना तु यतता शक्यॊ‌உवाप्तुमुपायतः ॥ 36 ॥


Yoga is difficult to attain for one whose mind is not subdued (by effort) by him; however by Self-Control (Vairagyam) and Sincere Striving, it can be attained through Practice.

Further down, Arjuna is still not satisfied. Just like us. He is still worried and asks Krishna further -

अर्जुन उवाच ।

अयतिः श्रद्धयॊपॆतॊ यॊगाच्चलितमानसः ।
अप्राप्य यॊगसंसिद्धिं कां गतिं कृष्ण गच्छति ॥ 37 ॥


O Krishna, what becomes of him who, though endowed with faith has not been able to subdue his passions and whose mind is therefore diverted from the goal and fails to reach the perfection?

कच्चिन्नॊभयविभ्रष्टश्छिन्नाभ्रमिव नश्यति ।
अप्रतिष्ठॊ महाबाहॊ विमूढॊ ब्रह्मणः पथि ॥ 38 ॥


Krishna, fallen from both paths and without anything to stand upon, does he not perish like the torn clowd? (we all get this doubt often)

ऎतन्मॆ संशयं कृष्ण छॆत्तुमर्हस्यशॆषतः ।
त्वदन्यः संशयस्यास्य छॆत्ता न ह्युपपद्यतॆ ॥ 39 ॥


Krishna, you must dispel this doubt of mine completely; for none other than You can do so!

श्रीभगवानुवाच ।

पार्थ नैवॆह नामुत्र विनाशस्तस्य विद्यतॆ ।
न हि कल्याणकृत्कश्चिद्दुर्गतिं तात गच्छति ॥ 40 ॥


Dear Arjuna, there is no fall for him either here or hereafter for none who does good ever comes to grief

प्राप्य पुण्यकृतां लॊकानुषित्वा शाश्वतीः समाः ।
शुचीनां श्रीमतां गॆहॆ यॊगभ्रष्टॊ‌உभिजायतॆ ॥ 41 ॥


He who has fallen from Yoga, obtains the higher words to which men of meritorious deeds alone are entitled and having resided there thereafter take birth in a house of the pious or wealthy

अथवा यॊगिनामॆव कुलॆ भवति धीमताम् ।
ऎतद्धि दुर्लभतरं लॊकॆ जन्म यदीदृशम् ॥ 42 ॥


Or he is born in the amily of enlightened Yogis itself; but to get such a birth in this worlf is very difficult

तत्र तं बुद्धिसंयॊगं लभतॆ पौर्वदॆहिकम् ।
यततॆ च ततॊ भूयः संसिद्धौ कुरुनन्दन ॥ 43 ॥


O Kurunandana, He regains in that borth the spiritual insight of his previous birth and through that he strives harder than ever for perfection!

पूर्वाभ्यासॆन तॆनैव ह्रियतॆ ह्यवशॊ‌உपि सः ।
जिज्ञासुरपि यॊगस्य शब्दब्रह्मातिवर्ततॆ ॥ 44 ॥


He feels drawn towards God by force of the habit acquired in his previous birth, even the seeker of enlightenment on yoga rises above the actions prescribed by the word of the Vedas

प्रयत्नाद्यतमानस्तु यॊगी संशुद्धकिल्बिषः ।
अनॆकजन्मसंसिद्धस्ततॊ याति परां गतिम् ॥ 45 ॥


The Yogi However, who diligently takes up the pratice attains perfection in this very life, with the help of inheritance from many births and being thoroughly purged of sin, then reaches the SUPREME STATE

तपस्विभ्यॊ‌உधिकॊ यॊगी ज्ञानिभ्यॊ‌உपि मतॊ‌உधिकः ।
कर्मिभ्यश्चाधिकॊ यॊगी तस्माद्यॊगी भवार्जुन ॥ 46 ॥


The Yogi is superior to the ascetics, he is regarded as Superior men of knowledge and to those who perform action with a motive. Therefore Arjuna, You become a YOGI!

यॊगिनामपि सर्वॆषां मद्गतॆनान्तरात्मना ।
श्रद्धावान्भजतॆ यॊ मां स मॆ युक्ततमॊ मतः ॥ 47 ॥


Of all yogis, again, he who deoutly worships Me (SELF) with his mind focussed on Me (WITHIN) is considered by Me to be the most Devout!

Elders say, It is enough if one always remembers these replies of Bhagavan from the entire Bhagavad Gita and that itself can take one to the Supreme if practiced with utmost sincerity.

PRACTICE, PRACTICE , PRACTICE, even if we fail just resuming the practice again and again... For Bhagavan has confirmed that what practice we have done never goes waste.

Suppose you did Self Enquiry 5 years back and then stopped it due to some problems, some samsara problems... Bhagavan says that such practice does not go waste. It is carried forward again when you resume again!

Salutations to Bhagavan
Title: Lesson from a Spider
Post by: Nagaraj on September 12, 2011, 06:01:24 PM
According to some legend an emperor when he was jailed after a bad defeat, observed a spider spinning a web, trying to make a connection from one area of the cave's roof to another. Each time the spider failed, it began again until it succeeded. Inspired by this, the emperor returned to inflict a series of defeats on the English, thus winning him more supporters and eventual victory.

"if at first you don't succeed, try try again."

We should always remember this watching the spider make its attempt seven times, succeeding on the eighth try!

Point to note is that the Spider's effort on all 7 occassions were made with utter sincerity and maximum effort!

Like how Krishna says in Gita Uddharet Atmanaatmanam - the Self is both your friend (Devas) and your enemy (Asuras). When your find yourself being pulled by your own bad self (Asuras), you have to pull yourself(Devas) back again to poise.

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 12, 2011, 06:24:55 PM


Dear Nagaraj,

Yes. I agree. Efforts and perseverance are the key to attain liberation
through self inquiry or self surrender.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 13, 2011, 10:14:22 AM
61. Question: In my present state, are there sufficient faith, humility, and surrender in me? If not, how to make them complete?

Bhagavan: You are perfect and complete, now, so abandon the idea of incompleteness. There is nothing to be destroyed. Ahankara (the individual "I" sense), is not a real thing. It is the mind that makes the effort, and the mind is not real. Just as it is not necessary to kill a rope, which one imagines to be a snake, so also there is no need to kill the mind. Knowing the form of the mind makes the mind disappear. That which is forever non-existent is already (in truth) removed.
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Post by: nonduel on September 13, 2011, 06:03:35 PM
Dear Prasanth,

Sri Ganesan mentioned the same text that you have posted, with these additions:

A MESSAGE FROM SRI V.GANESAN--GRAND NEPHEW OF THE MAHARSHI

Even after getting hold of the essence of Truth, theoretically, by reading with thoroughness, Sri Bhagavan's "Who Am I ?" and "Ulladu Narpadu" and by imbibing fully their intellectual meaning with conviction, one is prone to be swayed by three 'impediments' :

(i) 'Ignorance', (2) 'Doubts' and (3) 'Wrong Knowledge'.
After asserting it so, Sri Bhagavan very emphatically says, "Constant vigilance is the price a seeker has to pay."  Again and again, practise 'Atma Vichara'. Whenever the mind wanders out, bring it back, by questioning, "Whose mind is rambling and moving away from the Self ?"

"I AM" is the Inner Silence, which Sri Bhagavan affirms, "is the Self" ! Thus, stay in the State of Self, all the time.........
 
Look !
 
_____________________________
 
" Devotee: In my present state, are there sufficient faith, humility, and surrender in me? If not, how to make them complete?
 
Bhagavan: You are perfect and complete, now, so abandon the idea of incompleteness. There is nothing to be destroyed. Ahankara (the individual "I" sense), is not a real thing. It is the mind that makes the effort, and the mind is not real. Just as it is not necessary to kill a rope, which one imagines to be a snake, so also there is no need to kill the mind. Knowing the form of the mind makes the mind disappear. That which is forever non-existent is already (in truth) removed. "
 
________________________________
 
Therefore,
 
The first thing a true seeker has to do is, to repeatedly assert to oneself that one is already "perfect and complete" ! And, immediately, the second step to be taken is, to sincerely pray within one's Heart : "O Lord ! I surrender myself entirely at your Sacred Feet ! Save me ! "
The resultant effect, instantly, is a state of "Inner Silence" ! Stay and do not move........
 
You are ever and already blessed ! So, go to the next step of constantly surrendering yourself, your all forms of 'thinking' at
His Holy Feet !
 
With lots of Love,
 
Affectionately Yours,
 Ganesan



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Post by: amiatall on September 13, 2011, 08:38:40 PM
"practice, practice, and all is coming." -  K. Pattabhi Jois
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 14, 2011, 10:01:52 AM
62. Question: What books should I read for swadhyaya (introspection, or self study)?

Bhagavan: The Self is the real book. You can glance anywhere in that "book"; nobody can take it away from you. Whenever (or since) you are free, turn towards the Self. Thereafter you may read whatever you like.
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Post by: Nagaraj on September 14, 2011, 10:45:47 AM
We have to be Steadfast in our Sadhana!

The Book of the Self, if we get used to it, nothing like it, this book in endless, if we really start looking at it, there is no end to the recognition. That Book is about One Self itself that one which looks. There cannot be more fascinating book than this. This book is verily "Upanishad" This book itself is verily the "Vedas"

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 14, 2011, 01:53:36 PM


Sri Bhagavan says in Atma Vidya Kirtanam, Verse 3:

Thannai aRithalinRip pinnai yethaRikilen,
Thannai aRinthidiRpin ennai uLathaRiya.....

Of what avail is knowing things,
Other than the Self? And the Self being known,
What other thing is there to know? 



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 15, 2011, 12:01:27 AM
very well said nagraj garu and Subramanian garu.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 15, 2011, 10:04:20 AM
63. Question: How can meditation become steady?

Bhagavan: What is meditation? It consists in expulsion of thoughts. All the present troubles are due to thoughts. Give up thoughts. That is happiness, and also meditation.

The thoughts are for the thinker. Remain as the Self of the thinker and there is an end of thoughts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 16, 2011, 10:03:02 AM
64. Question: Am I the froth?

Bhagavan: Cease that identification with the unreal and know your real identity. Then you will be firm and no doubts can arise. Because you think that way there is worry. It is a wrong imagination. Accept your true identity with the Real. Be the water and not the froth. That is done by diving in.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 19, 2011, 09:57:32 AM
65.Question: Sri Bhagavan speaks of the Heart as the seat of Consciousness, and as identical with the Self. What does the Heart signify exactly?

Bhagavan: The question about the Heart arises because you are interested in seeking the source of Consciousness. To all deep thinking minds, the inquiry about the "I" and its nature has an irresistible fascination.

Call it by any name: God, Self, the Heart, or the seat of Consciousness, it is all the same. The point to be grasped is this, that Heart means the very core of one's being, the center without which there is nothing whatever.
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Post by: Nagaraj on September 19, 2011, 12:32:27 PM
Dear Prashant,

Ramana Maharshi says - "The physical organ is on the left; that is not denied. But the Heart of which I speak is non-physical and is only on the right side. It is my experience, no authority is required by me. Still you can find confirmation in a Malayalam Ayurvedic book and in Sita Upanishad; and he produced the quotation (mantra) from the latter and repeated the text (sloka) from the former."

It is the centre of the Self. The Self is the centre of the centres. This heart represents psychic centre and not the physical centre. This is the Seat of the Self.

Ramana Maharshi Says - "Atman is in the Heart itself and IS the Heart itself"

Ramana Maharshi had studied in a Christian school when he was in Madurai, hence he was well aware about the Bible. He once referred to the Bible for - "Be still and know that I am God", Psalm 46, found in Ecclesiates. "There is one alone and there is no second" and "the wise man's heart is on the right hand and a fool's heart is at the left."

The famous one from the bible is "I am That I am"

Also whenever we do Nyasa before we start some particular Parayanams, we use the Bija Mantras, etc... which goes like this

.......... Iti Bijam we keep our fingers on the right side of chest, signifying the centre of the Bija or source.
.......... Iti Shaktihi on the left side of our chest.
.......... Iti Keelakam on the center base of our chest.

It is simply a pure witness of all the activities of the Sukshma Aham-kara

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 20, 2011, 12:53:31 AM
yes very well said nagraj garu.

i remember very well bhagavan's words regarding the spiritual heart.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 20, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
66. Question: But Sri Bhagavan has specified a particular place for the Heart within, i.e., a physical place of the Heart within the physical body, which is in the chest two digits to the right from the median.

Bhagavan: Yes, that is the center of spiritual experience according to the testimony of Sages. This spiritual Heart-center is quite different from the blood-propelling, muscular organ known by the same name. The spiritual Heart-center is not an organ of the body. All that you can say of this Heart is that it is the very core of your being. That with which you are really identical (as the word in Sanskrit literally means), whether you are awake, asleep, or dreaming, whether you are engaged in work or immersed in samadhi (absorbed in Self).
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 20, 2011, 11:49:54 AM


Dear prasanth,

Yes.  The Heart-Centre to the right of mid chest was recommended
by Sri Bhagavan for the aspirants in the initial stages. One realizes
the Heart is every where in due course, the Heart is Space, in which
all the remaining four elements stay. Heart is everywhere, eternal,
and ever new.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 21, 2011, 10:05:08 AM
67. Question: How can it (the Heart-center) be localized in any part of the body? Fixing a place for the Heart (within the body) would imply setting physiological limitations to that which is beyond space and time.

Bhagavan: That is right. But the person, who puts the question about the position of the Heart, considers himself as existing within the body. While putting the question now, would you say that your body alone is here but that you are speaking from somewhere else? No, you accept your bodily existence. It is from this point of view that any reference to a physical body is made.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
68. Question: You often say that there is the real meaning of "I" in the Heart. What does it mean?

Bhagavan: Yes, when you go deeper within, you lose yourself as it were in the abysmal depths; then the Reality, which is the Self that was behind you all the while, takes hold of you. It is an incessant flash (or current) of I-consciousness, you can be aware of it, feel it, hear it, sense it, so to say; this is what I call the throb (or current) of the "I"-"I."
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Post by: Nagaraj on September 22, 2011, 11:03:01 AM
Dear Prashant,

this feeling has to be Akala - timeless. We all only have glimpses i.e. bound by time, we have such feelings for just few seconds or minutes and then its lost.

we have to strive to achieve such abidance continues, for instance, when we sit to meditate, we sit with an intention already that I will mediate for 1 hour because after 1 hour I have to go to work, or after 1 hour I have to meet some person, etc...

there are 2 options -


It has to be continues, however depending the nature of the person. we have to strive for such continues tapas, non stop like aajya dhaaraya - continues flow of the ghee like a thread

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 23, 2011, 12:26:22 AM
well said sir .
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 23, 2011, 10:06:57 AM
69. Question: You said that the Atman (the Self) is immutable, self-effulgent, etc. But, if you speak at the same time of the incessant flash (or current) of I-consciousness, does that not imply movement, which cannot be complete realization in which there is no movement?

Bhagavan: What do you mean by complete realization? Does it mean becoming a stone, an inert mass? The thought "I," is different from that which says "I." The former is the activity of the ego, and is bound to lose itself and make way for the latter, which is an eternal expression of the Self.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 23, 2011, 06:18:15 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan uses the word Aham two times in His first verse of AAMM.  The first Aham
is the Heart - Centre, the seat of the Self, the second Aham is the little I or ego. When a person
thinks I am Arunachala the Self, then his ego is removed root and branch.



Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 26, 2011, 10:02:15 AM
70. Question: So far I understand. But what about the body? How could I feel this in the body?

Bhagavan: You can feel yourself as one with the One that exists: the whole body becomes a mere power, a force-current; your life becomes a needle drawn to a huge mass of magnet; and, as you go deeper and deeper, you become a mere center, and then not even that for you become mere consciousness.
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Post by: ramanaduli on September 26, 2011, 01:58:24 PM
Dear sirs,


When there is a pain in our body, our attention goes to the body only, not for self or heart centre. It is possible once we reach the centre then we may forget our body.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 26, 2011, 05:24:33 PM


Dear Ramanaduli,

It comes only by practice by turning our attention to the Self. Even
in ordinary life, we have seen. Suppose you have a toothache. You
are suffering.  Suddenly an affectionate  friend of yours comes to your
house, and she is talking to you nicely. During that half an hour, even
though toothache continues, you are not conscious of it. Is it not?
The same with attention to the Self, which is the most important thing.
When we turn our mind within and attend our Self, the body pain is
not there.



Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: Nagaraj on September 26, 2011, 06:50:35 PM
Dear Ramanaduli ji & Subramanian Sir,

This topic is indiscernible really! All our knowledge on Reality goes for a complete toss when we have some ailments. Infact, this is the razor's test for anybody to verify where each one of us stands really!

This gives us a direct feedback, as in it shows me at least the level of my identification with my body.

The body pains when we recognize it as pain, remains, but the "recognition" makes it "bearable"

Like Subramanian Sir's example, I too have noticed that when I had a severe headache, sometimes when I am working and involved perfectly in it, the head ache itself had vanished what was a very bad ache initially.

Also, I have tried specially practicing Self Enquiry at that precise moments of dis-ease and I have noticed that common diseases like Headaches, common cold, body pain, fever etc... are put at ease and when the effort is sincere, the relief has been that much.

what doctors do is mainly give tranquilizers (allthough medicines have other drugs) they primarily induce one to sleep and by sleeping, the mind's coming in way is barred and the natural process is allowed to take over and unlike the popular belief, it isn't the medicines that is eventually healing one but ones own body itself heals itself, medicines just felicitate this to happen.If we are able to do it naturally, then we don't need much medication.

Another observation that struck me is that -

When we get fever, our body temperature raises. This is a natural response of our body to kill certain bacteria within our body and it is done so by increasing the temperature of our body. If we are able to recognise this, we can heal ourselves. There is a Natural Healing system within ourselves. If we are able to discern this with clarity, then we can avoid medicines for most of the issues of our body. Similarly, if we look within deeply, we can realise that what we call a 'diseases' in our body are actually a natural responses by itself (body) to protect itself. Rather we have to learn to co-operate with it instead of interfering with its natural process! Body itself is part of Prakruti (nature)

Body is our Prarabdha. Its a luggage we have to carry till the body reaches its destination (Not us, for we don't have any destination) :) ! Its a responsibility that we cant  reject, its rather thrust on us due to our past karmas.

We can Heal ourselves! Or we can say, the body can heal itself :)  Let it be.

With Proper Discernment, it only means complete Sharanagati or completely surrendering to the will of God which itself is allowing the natural process.

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 27, 2011, 09:59:54 AM
Dear nagaraj ji and subramanian garu,

it is impossible to forget all body pains and rather it will be practical to say that we need to try as best as we can incase of not having attachment to our body.

Incase of bhagavan himself he showed both ways i.e he had unberable tooth pain and had some doctor to treat him and pay 300Rs per day but again we have seen when it comes to his end he suffered lot of pain and had the courage to smile.

Even in that case we cannot rule that there is no pain to bhagavan but rather say he had the courage to smile i.e he knows that he is not the body.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 27, 2011, 10:04:04 AM
71. Question: Then when you say, "Know thyself" you want me to know this ego-self?

Bhagavan: The moment the ego-self tries to know itself, it changes its character; it begins to partake less and less of the Jada (inert nature) in which it is absorbed, and more and more of the Consciousness of the Self, the Atman.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 28, 2011, 12:27:17 PM
72. Question: Now be pleased to tell me where it (the Real Self) is in the body.

Bhagavan: You cannot know it with your mind. You cannot realize it by imagination, when I tell you here is the center (pointing to the right side of the chest). The only direct way to realize it is to cease to fancy, and (simply) try to be yourself. Then you realize, automatically feel, that the center is there. This is the center, the Heart spoken of in the scriptures as Hridayaguha (Cavity of the Heart), Aurl (Ullam).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 29, 2011, 09:58:34 AM
73. Question: Then what is Samadhi?

Bhagavan: In yoga the samadhi term refers to some kind of trance, and there are various kinds of samadhi. However, the samadhi I speak of is different. It is Sahaja Samadhi (state of permanent Realization). For, here you have Samadhana (see all things as the same), you remain calm and composed even while you are active; you realize that you are moved by the deeper Real Self within. You have no worries, no anxieties, no cares.

For, here you come to realize that there is nothing belonging to you. And everything is done by Something with which you get into conscious union.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 30, 2011, 10:07:23 AM
74. Question: If this is Sahaja Samadhi (the natural state) and the most desirable condition, there is no need for Nirvikalpa Samadhi (highest state of Yoga that sees no differences).

Bhagavan: The Nirvikalpa Samadhi (no differences perceived) of Raja (Royal) Yoga may have its use. But, in Jnana (pure Knowledge), this Sahaja Sthiti (abidance in the natural state) itself is the Nirvikalpa (no concepts) state. For, in this state the mind is free from doubts (and modifications). It has no need to swing between alternatives of possibilities and probabilities. It has no vikalpa (tendency) of any kind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 03, 2011, 10:00:18 AM
75. Question: Does samadhi (the state of oneness where one experiences the Self) mean that one is unaware of everything?

Bhagavan: No. Meditation will go on without our effort. That is samadhi.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 04, 2011, 10:00:17 AM
76. Question: Then what is Sahaja Samadhi?

Bhagavan: In that state, meditation will always be going on. In that state the thought, "I am meditating" or "I am not meditating" will not occur.

NOTE: Sahaja Samadhi is the permanent state of Self-Realization in which one functions normally in the world without thought, with no sense of oneness or separateness.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 04, 2011, 11:42:50 AM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sahaja Samadhi is the living in Nirvikalpa Samadhi with all the
essential worldly activities and without any doership.  Sri Bhagavan
lived in that state for 54 years. Buddha who had attained realization
at the age of 50 lived further for 33 years, I am told from books.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 05, 2011, 10:09:17 AM
77. Question: In my meditation I am only aware of an all-pervasive blankness. Is that good?

Bhagavan: It is good if meditators meditate with Self-awareness.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 05, 2011, 03:06:53 PM


Dear Prasanth,

Yes. There will be a blankness as you proceed with meditation.  Viveka Chudamani also describes it. One should not be afraid
of that blankness and proceed further with Self awareness. Then one starts experiencing the light and bliss. He himself
becomes Light and Blissful thereafter.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 05, 2011, 11:57:44 PM
well said sir.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 06, 2011, 10:06:31 AM
78. Question: Can one practice Sahaja Samadhi (the permanent state of Self-Realization in which one functions normally in the world without thought, with no sense of oneness or separateness) right from the beginning?

Bhagavan: Yes.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 07, 2011, 09:55:08 AM
79. Question: How does one practice Nirvikalpa Samadhi (the state with no perceived differences)? How many different kinds of samadhi are there?

Bhagavan: There is only one kind of samadhi, not many kinds. To remain temporarily subsided in the Reality without any thought is Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Permanently abiding in the Self, without forgetting it, is Sahaja Samadhi.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 10, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
80. Question: God is omnipresent. Why should He become an avatara (one born Enlightened in a physical body) age after age? Couldn't He perform His function just by being present everywhere?

Bhagavan: By the order of Iswara (the Supreme Power, or personal God), authorized, eligible, or qualified beings (adhikarika purushas) along with their devotees are sent to take birth on earth. These beings become avataras in order to give their grace to those who have done nishkamya punya (meritorious acts without any desire), accomplish the mission for which they came, then go back to their own earlier positions. Though different bodies come to the avatara purushas (incarnate divine beings), their experience of the unity of the Self never changes. A man, after being born, undergoes the various stages of life -- childhood, youth, manhood, and old age -- but in all these stages, the thought that he is the same person who was born remains unchanged. Likewise, the avatara purushas knowingly remain as the one Self even though they go through many births. For them, it is rather like seeing ten different dreams in one night.

All these questions will not occur when you know yourself. Without knowing the truth about oneself, it is a waste of time trying to understand the differing teachings of other people.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 11, 2011, 10:04:30 AM
81. Question: What is the difference between Iswara (personal God) and the liberated one?

Bhagavan: Iswara and the Jnani (liberated being) are one and the same, except that the liberated person was at first forgetful of the Self. Later, by strength of his practice, he eventually came to know the Self. For Iswara, it was not like that. Being the eternally liberated One, God is performing the five-fold functions of creation, preservation and destruction, veiling and grace. The activities, or functioning of Iswara and the Jnani, are one and the same.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 11, 2011, 01:40:49 PM



Dear prasanth,

Yes.  When the forgetfulness of the Self is removed by Guru and when he says, Tat tvam Asi, the disciple realizes that he is Iswara
are the same principle. The liberated one thus becomes equal to Iswara excepting  that he cannot do five fold functions of creation,
etc.,



Arunachala Siva.
 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 12, 2011, 10:02:49 AM
82. Question: You have said that the jnani (realized being) can be as active, and deal with men and things. I have no doubt about it now. You say at the same time that he has no differences; to him all is one, he is always in the Consciousness... if so, how does he deal with differences --with men, with things, which are surely different?

Bhagavan: He sees these differences as but appearances. He sees them as not separate from the True, the Real, with which he is one.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 13, 2011, 09:56:08 AM
83. Question: The jnani (realized being) seems to be more accurate in his expressions; he appreciates the differences better than the ordinary man. If sugar is sweet and wormwood is bitter to me, he too seems to realize it is so. In fact, all forms, all sounds, all tastes, etc., are the same to him as they are to others. If so, how can it be said that these are mere appearances? Do they not form part of his life experience?

Bhagavan: I have said that equality implies the existence of differences. It is a unity that the jnani perceives in all differences, which I call equality. Equality does not mean ignorance of distinctions. When you have the Realization you can see that these differences are very nominal, they are not at all substantial or permanent, and what is essential in all these appearances is the one Truth, and Real. That I call unity... You referred to sound, taste, form, smell, etc. True, the jnani appreciates the distinctions, but he always perceives and experiences the one Real in all of them. That is why he has no preferences. Whether he moves about or talks or acts, it is all the One Real in which he acts or moves or talks. He has nothing apart from the one supreme Truth.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 13, 2011, 03:53:26 PM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. This is what Sri Bhagavan says in His last verse of Pancharatnam.



Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 14, 2011, 09:59:15 AM
84. Question: Sri Bhagavan has written that one should not show advaita (non-duality) in one's activities. Why so? All are one. Why differences?

Bhagavan: If you saw someone molesting a woman would you just let him go, thinking "All is one?" There is a scriptural story about this. Some people once gathered together to test whether it is true, as said in the Bhagavad Gita, that a jnani (realized being) sees everything as one. They took a Brahmin, (a member of the highest Hindu caste system), a cow, an elephant, and a dog to the court of King Janaka, who was a jnani. When all had arrived, King Janaka sent the Brahmin to the place of Brahmins, the cow to its shed, the elephant to the place allotted to elephants, the dog to its kennel. He then ordered his servants to take care of his guests and feed them all appropriate food. The people asked, "Why did you separate them individually? Is not everything one and the same for you?"

"Yes, all are one," replied Janaka, "but self-satisfaction varies according to the nature of the individual. Will a man eat the straw eaten by the cow? Will the cow enjoy the food that a man eats? One should only give what satisfies each individual person or animal. Although the same man may play the role of all the characters in a play, his actions will be determined by the role that he is playing at each moment. In the role of a king, he will sit on a throne and rule. If the same person takes on the role of a servant, he will carry the sandals of his master and follow him. His real Self is neither increased nor decreased while he plays these roles. The Jnani never forgets that he himself has played all these roles in the past."
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 14, 2011, 11:59:37 AM


Dear prasanth,

It is a nice post. Sri Bhagavan says about this bhavana in three verses in Sad Darsanam and is supplement.

In Verse 37 of Sad Darsanam, He says:

During the search, duality; on attainment, unity. - This doctrine is also false. When eager he sought himself and later
when he found himself, the tenth man in the story was the tenth man, and none else, [in the story, ten men crossed a
stream and wanted to make sure they were all safe. In counting each one left himself out, and found only nine. A passerby
gave each a blow and made them count the ten blows.

In Sad Darsanam, Supplement Verse 27, He says: Seeming to have enthusiasm and delight, seeming to have excitement
and aversion, seeming to exercise initiative and perseverance, and yet without attachment, play, O hero, in the world.
Released from all bonds of attachment and with equanimity of mind, acting outwardly in all situations in accordance with
the part you have assumed, play as you please, O hero, in the world.

In Sad Darsanam, Supplement Verse 39, He says: Keep advaita within the heart. Do not ever carry it into action. Even if you
apply it to all the three worlds, O Son, it is not to be applied to the Guru.



Arunachala Siva.
         
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 14, 2011, 12:59:12 PM
well said Subramanian garu i 100% agree with you.

This is exactly what i told to nagraj garu also in this post.

http://www.arunachala-ramana.org/forum/index.php?topic=6631.0 (http://www.arunachala-ramana.org/forum/index.php?topic=6631.0)

Bhagavan said that advaita and knowing that we are indeed self should be only in bhavana.

We need to acknowledge that in order to achieve this goal we need to  make use of our body.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 17, 2011, 05:16:39 PM
85. Question: What is the difference between the bound man and the one liberated?

Bhagavan: From the Heart, the Self-center, there is a subtle passage leading to the mind's center. The ordinary man lives in the brain unaware of himself in the Heart. The enlightened one lives in the Heart. When he moves about and deals with men and things, he knows that what he sees is not separate from the one Supreme Reality, the Brahman, (the impersonal Absolute Reality) which he realized in the Heart as his own Self, the Real.

Question: What about the ordinary man?

Bhagavan: I have just said that he sees things outside himself. He is separate from the world, from his own deeper truth, from the truth that supports him and what he sees. The man who has realized the Supreme Truth of his own existence realizes that it is the one Supreme Reality that is there behind him, behind the world. In fact, he is aware of the One, as the Real, the Self in all selves, in all things, Eternal and Immutable, in all that is impermanent and mutable.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 17, 2011, 05:24:56 PM


Dear prasanth,

When the mind stays in the Heart, without jumping outside, it is called Aha mukham or Andhar mukham.  When the mind
jumps outside with thoughts about the world, jiva, and other beings. it is called Bhahir Muktam.  [Who am I?]




Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 18, 2011, 10:05:31 AM
86. Question: Some say that to make an effort for one's liberation is selfish, and that instead of that, one should do good to others by selfless service.

Bhagavan: Those people believe that jnanis (realized beings) are selfish and that they themselves are selfless, but this is not a true belief. The jnani lives in the experience of Brahman (the impersonal Absolute Reality) and the effect of this experience spreads all over the world. A radio transmission is done from one point but its effect can be felt all over the world. Those who would like to benefit from it can do so. Similarly, the Self-realization of the jnani spreads everywhere and whosoever wants can tune into it. This is not a lesser service.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 19, 2011, 09:58:57 AM
87. Question: How to maintain the thought that all is Brahman (the impersonal Absolute Reality) in the midst of worldly activities?

Bhagavan: When the harmonium is being played there is a constant note that is called the sruti. Along with that, other notes also come out. If the ear is fixed on this note that is constant, then, while listening to the other notes, that original note cannot be forgotten. Actually, that first note gives strength to all the other notes. So, the principle to understand is that the first note is the adhistana (substratum) while the other notes represent worldly activities. During worldly activities, if (awareness of) the note of the adhistana is continuous, whatever is spoken is then done with authority of this adhistana note. But an ordinary man does not keep his attention on the first note, the adhistana. He merely listens to the subsequent notes. Sukhdev (a sage of ancient India) used to keep such attention and maintain his awareness of Brahman. When the attention is fixed properly on the first note, the effect of the other notes will not be felt.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 20, 2011, 10:03:02 AM
88. Question: How much sleep does a Jnani (realized being) require?

Bhagavan: Sleep is necessary to one who thinks, "I have risen from sleep." But, to those who are ever in changeless Sleep, what need is there for some other sleep? When the eyelids feel strained, it will do to close the eyes for a while. The three states of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep are for the mind and not for the body.
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Post by: ramanaduli on October 20, 2011, 12:46:28 PM
Dear sir,

However the body grows from infant stage to older stage. It needs food as well as sleep and rest, Is not it? They say body is a jadam then how it grows?  When we have sound sleep, our mind and body becomes fresh. Gnani may not sleep.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 20, 2011, 01:01:25 PM



Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes. The body is jadam, insentient. But how does it grow with food?  It is because of the "I" inside. Without "I" the body cannot
grow, nor can it get old, and become senile and ultimately die. In the scriptures, it is said that there is agni inside the stomach,
which creates hunger and thirst and which also does the work of digesting the food.  The Agni is "I".  And then, one says after a
long deep sleep that he slept nicely. Is he telling that 'during sleep'? He is telling that after getting up from sleep?  It is the "I"
which says that he had a sound sleep.

Brahmasri Nochur Venkataraman used to give an example.  Suppose one meets with an accident, and in the process, he has to
lose one of his arms or legs.  The arm or leg is amputated and kept in a basin in  a chemical.  Now, the person, who is awake
after the surgery, after all anaesthesia, says: Thank God, I am alive!  Now the amputated leg or arm will not say anything, neither
I am dead or I am alive. So the 'remaining' body of the person, after amputation, which says I am alive, says due to the "I" within!

Sri Bhagavan says that animals and plants also do have this 'I' sense. When you cut off the branch of a tree, or pluck a flower,
they also feel the pain due to the I inside. But only difference is that they do not speak it out.
That is why Sri Bhagavan says that you should pluck the fruits with a mild act and not use knife or long stick and beat the trees.
The flowers should be taken only when they fall down and you should not pluck the flowers.   



Arunachala Siva.   
 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 20, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
Dear Subramanian garu,

Well said sir.

Bhagavad Gita also says the same

Bhagavad Gita Ch15 Text 14

I am the fire of digestion in every living body, and I am the air of life, outgoing and incoming, by which I digest the four kinds of foodstuff.


Body is jadama and all activities of the body are taken care by material nature(mother shakthi).

It requires food,sleep etc to sustain..

However self does nothing and we should know that we are not the body and rather use it as a tool.

Bhagavad Gita Ch2 Text 25

It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable, immutable, and unchangeable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body.

Bhagavad Gita Ch13 Text 30

One who can see that all activities are performed by the body, which is created of material nature, and sees that the self does nothing, actually sees.


Jnani's body also sleep and it is confirmed by bhagavan but rather they utilise their dreams to purposeful manner like they dream of visiting temples,thinking of gods etc.
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Post by: ramanaduli on October 20, 2011, 01:44:11 PM
Dear Subramaniyan ji,

Thanks for the reply.  The "I" which is inside us. So the agani in the stomach is also the same "I".  When people get sick, they say "I" do not want to eat. Doctors say some reason. Ultimately the agni which is inside the stomach becomes dull so there is no hunger. When the man says we think Mr. or Mrs. so and so says the problem but it is not. the "I" who witness the agni says there is no hunger. The same "I" knows everything what is happening inside the body i.e. pain and discomfort except death. Ordinary people i.e. the same "I" cannot say  the time of death but gnani says to his deciples. 
Why does it happen?

2ndly regarding the flowers... they say the flower which is fallen on the ground is not good to offer, We should pluck flowers in a such a way for offering. (1) the plants to be watered by us. We should not pluck from other's garden. (2) we should pluck in the morning.
we should  not disturb the bees when it sucks the honey. we should not pluck the buds. we should pluck without doing harm to the plants. fresh flowers should be plucked. It should be frangerant. while plucking we should not talk so our saliva may fall on the flowers.
Lastly we should carry the flowers in the basket which should be above our naval.

Thanking you,

Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 20, 2011, 02:18:58 PM


Dear Ramanaduli,

Firstly, a Brahma Jnani has no body and mind. He lives as Swarupam, the Self. It is this Self which makes him write poems, speak to
people etc., For the living Jnani, the body is like a shirt or a sari. He knows when to remove the shirt. Whereas the ajnanis, who
are considering that their bodies are their real 'I' do not know when he will kick the bucket.

Regarding flowers and fruits, Sri Bhagavan has said that only to say that the plants and trees have also got like, the I inside,
and they also have pain. So fruits must be plucked with minimum discomfort to the trees. Flowers fall due to wind etc., And only
such flowers should be used. But in real life, we do not do this. So the concession is: Pluck the flowers with minimum discomfort
to the plants, when bees have not taking honey etc., And also leave some flowers in the plants since God would be happier if
they remain in the plants as ornaments than on one's head or on God's image. But we do not follow these.

One lady wanted to do some puja with one lac bhilva leaves. In the Hill, she went on plucking leaves from bhilwa trees
in as much as the trees were tonsured. Sri Bhagavan said: Why do you do these? Instead, if you want to do Siva Puja
with a lac of bhilwa leaves, you pinch your thigh a lac of times.  Then you will know the pain!

 


Arunachala Siva.             
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Post by: Nagaraj on October 20, 2011, 04:14:12 PM
This body is just one among those plants and trees in the nature. This body is 'prakruti'

This body grows but not 'I' ;  I remains the same during all avasthas, right from being a child, boyhood, youth, man, etc...

the body grew but not 'I'

Bhagavan gave the example of how body traveled from train, then from a cart and reached the Ashram, but throughout the 'I' remained unmoved.

Whether or not we are able to believe or perceive that the Body is not us, we have to believe blindly that we are not the body, doesn't matter if the body pains and we also experience the pains, it is ok. But The Great Sages have said that the Body is not ours, so that is the truth. It does not matter if we know it as yet. Our attitude should be that = "if the sages have said, it has to be true, so I believe" with the awareness that the intellect is never supreme.

The Sages are always right!

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 20, 2011, 05:39:19 PM


In this connection, Nochur Venkataraman used to tell a story:  One grandfather, say of 80 years old, was showing his younger days
photographs to his grandson. Say, 10 year, 25 years etc., The grandson said: Thatha!  These photographs are not you. You are     
different now. You have to walk with a stick, you have lost most of your teeth. Your hair has grown white and cottony. Your face is
wrinkled. It is not you who is in these photographs.  The grandfather said: Yes., It is only 'I". Only the body has become old and teeth
have fallen, and hairs have become white and cottony.   But it is "I" only.

Yes. As Nagaraj said, "I" does not grow. It is all pervading, where can it further grow?  We are always the "I" and not the body.



Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: Nagaraj on October 20, 2011, 06:13:27 PM
Dear Friends,

When the sages refer the body as "inert" it simply does not mean a 'stone'; Inert is an english substitute for Jada. it does not means just a stone, it does not means just something like "numb", "unintelligent" or, even, we cannot just say, that which is not chaitanya, because the Self alone is the Chaitanya which is all pervading, CAN THERE BE ANYTHING ELSE WITHOUT CHAITANYA. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT IS "NOT SELF" CAN THERE BE SOMETHING THAT IS INERT? Self is Everything! To say that that is stone, it is inert and this is body, it is inert is also in a way wrong only. Well it is initially said so to the Sadhaka who has strong identification with the body! Can the body operate without the Chaitanya of Self? Can the tree grow without water? without the rains? Can the body grow without the will of the Chaitanya to feed it with the fuel of food?

Inert refers to avidya, ignorance. Inert, Jada also refers to the perceptions of duality, perception of "the other"

The root is this there is no "two" no "other" How can there exist 2 chaitanya? There is only One Chaitanya, the Self. Any other perception, of the 'other' is only referred as "Inert" or Jada and not the body itself!

Friends, you all would remember how JadaBharata was referred as a "Jada" Jada is that which is void of life, or chaitanya. In the same way like how some small kids threw stones on Bhagavan when he was in Deep Samadhi thinking him to be a jada!

Inert, Jada only refers to avidya. It can be considered as the 'mirage' 'illusion'

In the Snake-Rope phenomenon, the snake refers to "jada" as it is really not there, "the perception of existence of snake" is referred as Jada, which is Avidya. In the same spirit, the body is referred to as jada. as long as the perception of snake is, so long we need to protect ourselves and be careful, and so long, the perception of body is, so long we will remain identified with it.

All the lives chaitanya is just the same.

The same Chaitanya is present in everything. Even to say 'present' is wrong because, to be present there has to be "the other" Therefore what is is only Chaitanya. Not even saying present. Like the spirit of "Isavasyam idam sarvam yat kim ca jagatyam jagat, tena tyaktena bhunjithah ma gridhah kasyasvid dhanam" The entire universe is indwelt, enveloped, covered by the Supreme Being, whatever this world be – moving or non-moving, living or otherwise.

'I' am the Self in Everything said Krishna. Therefore there is no another Self or another 'I' or another 'chaitanya' and to believe so is referred as Jada.

For the one who has strong body identification, is referred to as a Jada.

In the case of Jada Bharata, while he was immersed in supreme bliss of Self, others who were 'Jada' themselves with identification with their bodies as Self, called Jada Bharata as 'Jada' such was the irony of other people in that incident.

Friends, more over, while we have to be aware that body is not us; at the same time it is very important to also realise that body is not different from the Self. The body is not different and the Self is not different. Self is everything without any distinctiveness.

When we see the stone, the attitude should be that that Self is the stone, and that Self am I That stone is not different. Here there is no question of "jada" at all, what is, is just Self alone. what is Jada. It dawns that 'Jada' is our own avidya. Jada is the snake in snake rope phenomenon.

To say that the body is inert or Jada, itself, denotes the existence of a body? like denoting the existence of a snake in the snake rope phenomenon, like the belief in existence of a mirage. Hence this illusion in ourselves is referred to as "Jada" and to call the body as Jada/inert is wrong really, when we look deeply and discern.

.....some musings :)

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: Nagaraj on October 20, 2011, 06:36:58 PM
Friends,

Made several corrections. Just acknowledging changes made by this post here. If you have already read, please re-read, as previously, before the changes, the essence was not communicated properly. Thank you.

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 21, 2011, 09:56:06 AM
89. Bhagavan: Now I put a question to you. When a man with luggage gets into a railway carriage, where does he keep it?

Devotee: He keeps it in his compartment or in the luggage car.

90. Bhagavan: So he does not carry his luggage upon his head or in his lap?

Devotee: None but a fool would do so.

Bhagavan: If you call him a fool who keeps it on his head, a thousand times more foolish is it to bear your burden when you get into spiritual life, whether it is vichara-marga (the path of knowledge), or bhaki-marga (the path of devotion)?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 21, 2011, 01:41:18 PM


Sri Bhagavan says in Verse 9 of Padigam:

O Lord Supreme, I am the first among those who lack the supreme wisdom to clasp your Feet in freedom from attachment.
Ordain that my burden should not more be mine, but yours, for what can be a burden for you, the all sustainer?
Lord Sypreme, I have had enough of carrying this world upon my head, parted from you.
Arunachala, think no more of keeping me away from your Feet.\



Arunachala Siva.


 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 24, 2011, 10:07:31 AM
91. Question: But can I throw off all my responsibilities, all my commitments?

Bhagavan: Now, look at the temple tower (Gopuram). There are many statues in it, and there is a big statue, one in each corner. Have you seen them? Well, do you think the statues support the temples entrance?

92. Devotee: When you speak like that, it would be as foolish as to think those statues also support the tall towers as well.

Bhagavan: Yes. Likewise, the Lord of the Universe carries the entire burden of this world. You imagine you do. You can hand all your burdens over to His care. Whatever you have to do, you will be made an instrument for doing it at the right time. Do not think you cannot do it unless you have the desire to do it. Desire does not give you the strength for doing. The entire strength is the Lord's.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 25, 2011, 10:01:48 AM
93. Question: Am I to understand that you are giving me the essence of Karma Yoga (the way of action)?

Bhagavan: It is the essence of Karma Yoga (the path of action), of Bhakti Yoga (the way of devotion), even of Jnana Yoga (the path of knowledge or wisdom); for even though the paths may differ in the beginning, they all eventually lead to this same position.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 26, 2011, 09:50:31 AM
94. Question: How is sadbuddhi (Pure Intellect) to be steadily kept up?

Bhagavan: All living beings are aware of their surroundings; and, therefore, intellect must be surmised in all of them. At the same time, there is a difference between the intellect of man and that of other animals because man not only sees the world as it is and acts accordingly, but also seeks fulfillment of desires. He extends his vision far and wide, and yet he turns away dissatisfied. He then begins to think and reason out. The desire for permanency of happiness and for peace bespeaks such permanency of his own nature. Therefore, he seeks to find and regain his own nature, i.e., his Self. That found, all is found.

Such inward seeking is the path to be gained by man's intellect. The intellect itself realizes after continuous practice that it is enabled by some Higher Power to function. It cannot itself reach that Power. So it ceases to function after a certain stage. When it thus ceases to function, the Supreme Power is still left there all alone. That is Realization; that is the finality; and that is the goal. It is thus plain that the purpose of the intellect is to realize its own dependence on the Higher Power and its inability to reach the same.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 27, 2011, 09:58:25 AM
95. Question: What is Sat Sanga (Keeping Conscious Company or Association)

Bhagavan: Sat Sanga means only Self Sanga (association with the Self). Only those who cannot practice that, are to practice being in the company of Realized Beings, or sadhus (holy men)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 28, 2011, 10:06:10 AM
96. Question: When does one get the company of a Satguru? (Spiritual Master living in Reality)

Bhagavan: The opportunity to be in the company of a Satguru comes effortlessly to those who have performed worship of God, japa (repetition of a name of God), tapas (burning off one's impurities by intense spiritual practice), pilgrimages, etc., for long periods in their previous births. There is a verse by Tayumanavar (a great Indian saint) which points out the same thing; "O Lord of the first and last, those who properly start the worship of idols, holy places, and sacred waters will meet the Satguru who will tell them the words of Truth."

Only he who has done plenty of nishkamya karmas (actions performed without any thought of a reward or consequence) in previous births will get abundant faith in the Guru. Having faith in the Guru's words, such a man will follow the path and reach the goal of liberation.
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Post by: Nagaraj on October 28, 2011, 10:20:05 AM
This confirms without any doubt that we should stick to our basics. Stick to ones own traditional roots. Keep doing the worships that has been traditionally done in ones family and do not give up any of those samskaras. That itself takes us nearer to our Sat Guru.

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 28, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
well said nagaraj garu.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 31, 2011, 09:22:45 AM
97. Question: In the supplement to Ulladu Narpadu (a poem of forty-two verses, composed by Bhagavan in Tamil, which explains the nature of Reality and the means of discovering it), it is said that the look of a "Mahatma (great soul) is far more effective than any number of pilgrimages, worship, and other devotional practices." I have already stayed here for some months but I do not feel any change in myself. Why?

Bhagavan: The purification by the look of a Mahatma is not visible. Coal takes time to ignite, but charcoal is proportionately quicker, while gunpowder ignites immediately. So it is with men under the powerful influence of a jnani (a realized being).
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 31, 2011, 10:24:37 AM


Dear prasanth,

Yes. It takes more time for devotees who are under prepared and not yet mature. One look was sufficient for Mastan Swami,
Wolter A. Keers, Satyamangalam Venkatrama Aiyar and a few others. For some it took more time. Ultimately every devotee who
surrenders or does self inquiry, reach the ocean ultimately, like the rivers, wherever they flow, to whatever distance they flow.




Arunachala Siva.
 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 01, 2011, 10:01:32 AM
98. Question: How can one have a vision of God?

Bhagavan: Seeing God implies that he is not there now but will come later, is it not? That which appears and disappears is not permanent. Can one place faith in that which is impermanent? Is it not better to abide in God, instead of merely seeing Him? Self-abidance is what one should seek, not visions. It is only when the ego is merged in its source, the Heart, that true knowledge of one's identity with God will dawn.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 02, 2011, 09:58:20 AM
99. Question: The fact is that God guides us. Then what is the use of these instructions to people?

Bhagavan: They are for those who seek instructions. If you are firm in your belief in the guidance of God, stick to it, and do not concern yourself with what happens around you. Furthermore, there may be happiness or misery. Be equally indifferent to both and abide in the faith of God. That will be so only when one's faith is strong that God looks after all of us.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 03, 2011, 09:54:05 AM
100. Question: Does not God work His Will through some chosen person?

Bhagavan: God is in all and works through all. But His presence is better recognized in purified minds. The pure ones reflect God's actions more clearly than the impure minds. Therefore, people say that they are the chosen ones. However, the "chosen" man does not himself say so. If he thinks that he is the intermediary, then it is clear that he retains his individuality and that there is not complete surrender.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 04, 2011, 10:03:23 AM
101. Question: How is "I-I" consciousness felt?

Bhagavan: As an unbroken awareness of "I." It is simply consciousness. You are that even now. There will be no mistaking it, when pure.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 07, 2011, 09:56:56 AM
On Daily Life

You yourself are the source of all your happiness, whatever it may be, and not external things. Even when you imagine that some external object has given you the happiness, you are mistaken. What really happened is that unconsciously the object brought you back to your Self for an instant, borrowed the happiness, and thus presented it to you. The happiness came as a shadow to you; why not look to the source, to the Self, and realize it?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 07, 2011, 12:48:34 PM


Dear prasanth,

No possession of external objects, money, house, women, children, delicious food can never confer happiness for a person.
The fact that one can be happy without any possessions is evident from one's deep sleep, every night. Sri Bhagavan says in
Who am I?:  Even if something pleasant happens to you and even if some unpleasant happens to a person whom you dislike,
the mind returns to the Self and enjoy Atma Sukam.



Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 08, 2011, 09:58:54 AM
Q:   What are the first steps to spiritual practice?

M:   In the beginning, people have to be told that they are not the body because they think that they are only the body, whereas they are the body and everything else. The body is only a part. The aspirant should know this firmly. He must first discern chit (the sentient) from jada (the insentient) and be the chit only. Later let him realize that jada is nothing other than chit. This is discrimination. The initial viveka (discrimination) must persist to the end, and its fruit is moksha (liberation).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 09, 2011, 09:56:33 AM
Q: What is the best way of living?

M:   It depends on whether one is a jnani (realized) or not. A jnani does not find anything different or separate from the Self.

Everything is in the Self. The universe and what is beyond are to be found in the Self. The outlook differs according to the sight of the person, based on whether he is realized or not.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 10, 2011, 09:35:17 AM
Q:   How is mouna (silence) possible when we are engaged in worldly transactions?

M:   When women walk with water pots on their heads, they are able to talk with their companions while all the time remaining intent on the water above. Similarly, when a sage engages in activities, they do not disturb him because his mind abides in Brahman.

The difficulty is that people think they are the doer; it is a mistake. It is the higher power which does everything and people are only a tool. If they accept that position, they will be free from troubles; otherwise they court them. Do your work without anticipating its fruits. That is all that you should do.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 11, 2011, 09:51:04 AM
Q:   What kind of teaching is suitable for young people -- they would not understand the naked truth?

M:    Their attention might be drawn to the truth from time to time in an appropriate way.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 11, 2011, 05:30:08 PM
Dear Prasanth,

This is what happened in the case of Indira daughter, G.V. Subbaramayya.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 14, 2011, 09:46:33 AM
Q: Why is the world in ignorance?

M: Let the world take care of itself. If you are the body, then there the gross world appears. If you are the spirit, everything is just spirit. Look for the ego, and it vanishes. If you inquire, ignorance will be found to be non-existent. It is the mind which feels misery and darkness. See the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 15, 2011, 10:18:01 AM
Q: If one always remembers the Self, will one's actions always be right?

M: They ought to be, but such a person is not concerned with the right or wrong of actions. His actions are God's and therefore right.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 15, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. For a person, who ever is in the thought of the Self, God takes charge of
that person,s life and activities. Sri Bhagavan saya in AAMM, Verse 70:

No sooner I remembered your name, you pulled me to you, who can know your
glory, O Arunachala!

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 16, 2011, 10:06:12 AM
Q: Is it useful to bring the East and the West closer?

M: Such events will take place automatically. There is a power guiding the destinies of nations. These questions arise only when you have lost touch with reality.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 17, 2011, 10:06:12 AM
Q: Is it harder for Westerners to withdraw inwards?

M: Yes, they are rajasic (more active mentally) -- their energy goes outwards. We must be inwardly quiet, not forgetting the Self -- then externally we can go on with our activities. Does a man who is on the stage acting a female role forget that he is a man? Similarly, we too must play our parts on the stage of life, but without identifying ourselves with those parts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 18, 2011, 10:03:13 AM
Q: What is the difference between West and East?

M: All have to come to the same goal.
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Post by: Nagaraj on November 18, 2011, 10:09:38 AM
All religions state one God. Does that mean, that one god stated by different religions become different? All religions point out to the one source from where everything has come.

Ekam Sat Viprah Bahuda Vadanti

Truth is one, the Sages call it differently.

How can anyone have two mothers? Mother is one.

Paths are different, Goal is One.

Sweets are different, Sweetness is one.

Beings are many, Soul is one

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 18, 2011, 12:04:17 PM
Dear prasanth, Nagaraj,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan says in Sri Arunachala Ashtakam, Verse 5:

Like the thread which runs through the rubies, (in a necklace), it is You (Arunachala) who
remains in all religions.....

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 21, 2011, 12:42:28 PM
Q:   I am a sinful man.

M:   Why think of yourself that way? You have rightly thrown all responsibility onto God in whom you have faith and He will look after that.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 22, 2011, 10:00:03 AM
Some devotees came and complained to the Maharshi about another's behavior

M:   Did you come to reform others or to reform yourselves?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 22, 2011, 11:21:37 AM
Dear prasanth,

For that matter, Sri Bhagavan never liked anyone to comment / complain / or even rectify
others. Once an old man was coming regularly to the Old Hall but as soon as some conversation started he would start dozing off and his head would hang. One attendant used to go near that
Old man and wake him up!  Sri Bhagavan noticed this for a couple of times and then told the
attendant:-- he is attending to the work for which he had come. You attend to your work. Why do you go and disturb him?

Each one should live their own life!


Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 22, 2011, 01:01:18 PM
yes brilliant reply by bhagavan and i really love his reactions in those situations.
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Post by: Sreeswaroop on November 22, 2011, 01:41:17 PM
Om Namo Bhagavathe Sri Ramanaya!

Exactly. We may not be able to analyse and understand always such words of wisdom. One has to absorb it and act accordingly.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 23, 2011, 10:04:03 AM
Q:   In this pure atmosphere it is easy to practice, but in towns it is difficult.

M:   When you see the true Self, is it not a pure atmosphere? Let the body think what it wishes, but why should you think so? It is very good if you can just keep quiet without engaging in any other activities. If that cant be done, what is the use of being quiet? Even if you are obliged to be active, do not give up your attempt to realize the Self.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 23, 2011, 10:49:33 AM

Dear prasanth,

Yes. Very true.  Sri Bhagavan has stressed this point on many occasions to many devotees.
City or village, town or jungle, work or home, we carry our mind with us. When it is the
mind which is the mischief maker, what can town or forest do, to give you peace?

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 23, 2011, 12:57:45 PM
i agree with your views subramanain garu.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 24, 2011, 10:08:09 AM
Q:   I want to go to Kailash (the reputed home of Lord Siva, the Hindu god).

M:   One can see these places only if it is destined, not otherwise. But even after seeing everything, there will still be more places to visit, if not in this hemisphere then in the other. Knowledge implies ignorance of what is known and what lies beyond, and is always limited.
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Post by: Nagaraj on November 24, 2011, 10:13:44 AM
At another instance Bhagavan said to somebody -

Kailash is the residence of Shiva, whereas, Arunachala is Shiva Himself :)

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 24, 2011, 12:53:22 PM
But again he said arunachala is within and not without.  :)

else people living in a place arunachala would have got liberated by now.
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Post by: Nagaraj on November 24, 2011, 01:06:06 PM
:) yes true, Self itself is Arunachala
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 25, 2011, 07:45:53 AM
 
Dear prasanth, Nagaraj,

One day Sri Bhagavan was looking at the Hill, through the window of Old Hall.
Some devotee asked : Bhagavan! Are you looking at Arunachala?
Bhagavan: I am looking at Atma!

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 26, 2011, 12:44:46 AM
Q:   Is solitude necessary for vichara (Self-Inquiry)?

M:   Solitude is everywhere. The individual is always solitary. Our business is to find it within, not to seek it outside ourselves. Solitude is (to be attained) in the mind. A person might be in the midst of the world and yet maintain serenity; such a one is in solitude. Another may stay in a remote forest and still be unable to control the mind; he cannot be said to be in solitude. Those attached to desire are unable to attain solitude wherever they are, whereas those who are detached are always in solitude, even if they are engaged in work. When work is performed with attachment it is a shackle. Solitude is not only to be found in forests, it can also be had in the midst of worldly occupations.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 28, 2011, 09:08:28 AM
Helping others

Cast all alms, aspirations, desires to serve humanity and schemes to reform the world upon the Universal Power which sustains this universe. He is not a fool. He will do what is required. Lose the sense, "I am doing this." Get rid of egoism. Do not think that you are the one to bring about some reform. Leave these aims alone and let God attend to them. Then, by getting rid of egoism, God may use you as an instrument to effect them, but the difference is that you will not be conscious of doing them; the Infinite will be working through you and there will be no (ego or) self worship to spoil the work. Otherwise there is desire for name or fame and one will be serving the personal self rather than humanity.

What people call Satan, the Devil, or black forces, are simply ignorance of the true Self. Nearly all human beings are more or less unhappy because they do not know the true Self. Real happiness abides in Self-knowledge alone. All else is fleeting. To know one's Self is to be always blissful.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 29, 2011, 06:39:13 AM
Q: My friend is keen to do social service work, even at the expense of his own interests.

M: His selfless work is helpful; its utility cannot be denied. See how he has continued to work there (where he is) and how you sent him the extract from these conversations. There is a link between the two. The work purified his mind so that he gained an insight into the wisdom of sages rather readily. Social work has a place in the scheme of spiritual uplift. The work is social and not selfish. God is kept in view all along. The public good is identical with one's own good. Such activities of the body and mind purify the mind. Thus good social work is a way to render the mind purer.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 29, 2011, 07:27:32 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. The doubts regarding social work and participating in freedom movement, were asked
by many devotees and Sri Bhagavan had givmen the standard reply.  Very rarely depending on the questioner, He made some minor variations.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 30, 2011, 08:45:20 PM
Q: But social work does not give us leisure for meditation!

M: Of course, one's efforts cannot end with social work. The outlook should always be on the highest truth. Everything will come right in time.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 01, 2011, 07:39:08 AM
Q: How can we remove the spiritual sloth of others?

M: Have you removed your own? Turn your inquiries towards Self-search. The force set up within you will then operate on others too.
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Post by: Nagaraj on December 01, 2011, 11:27:30 AM
When we become/realise the Sun,, which we already are! Wherever we go, there is only light! There is no darkness anywhere.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on December 01, 2011, 05:33:28 PM
Dear prasanth, Nagaraj,

Throughout His life in Tiruvannamalai, for 54 long years, Sri Bhagavan has been teaching only
Search within. Find out who you are!  He never encouraged anyone to go out and correct others.
He never encouraged people to do social reforms or even to go for freedom struggle etc., 
Ultimately if some had gone, itbwas only their prarabdha.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 02, 2011, 09:48:28 AM
Q: What about Paul Bruntons idea of inspired action?

M: Let activities go on. They do not affect the pure Self. The difficulty is that people think they are the doer. This is a mistake. It is the higher power which does everything and people are only tools. If they accept that position they will be free from troubles, otherwise they court them. The sculptured figure on the temple tower shows great strain, but really, the tower rests on the ground, and that supports the figure. The figure is a part of the tower, but is made to look as if it is bearing the weight of the tower. Is it not funny? It is the same with the person who takes on himself the sense of doing.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 05, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
Q: What is your opinion of social reform?

M: Self-reform automatically brings about social reform. Confine yourself to self-reform. Social reform will take care of itself
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 06, 2011, 09:04:49 AM
Somebody commented that the Bhagavad Gita preached karma yoga, (yoga of action) because it taught that one should act with selfless motives.

M: No. This can only be achieved after knowing the illusoriness of the ego, i.e. jnana (knowledge of Self). Hence it really teaches jnana yoga, which is the highest, and that we should act by letting the Universal act through us.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on December 06, 2011, 10:42:27 AM

Dear prasanth,

Yes. Nochur Acharya Venkataraman used to say:-  The message of Srimad Bhagavat Gita is
--to make you understand the art of being and not art of acting.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 07, 2011, 06:13:29 AM
Q: I am a doctor. How can I best heal people?

M: The permanent cure is jnana (knowledge of Self); the patients must realize it for themselves, and that depends on their maturity. Otherwise, when one disease goes another will come.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 09, 2011, 08:35:07 PM
A young man came and demanded to be given powers to stamp out the world's materialism.

M:   People who are incapable themselves, ask for divine powers to be utilized for human welfare. This is like the lame man who said he would overpower the enemy if only he were helped to his feet! The intention is good but there is no sense of proportion.

Q: How can I help others?

M:    What other is there for you to help? Who is the "I" that is going to help others? First clear up that point and then everything will settle itself.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on December 10, 2011, 02:20:08 AM

Dear prasanth,

Welcome back to India. I am also back in India yesterday. Trying to help others through social work, social service etc.,
will only add to one's ego's size. One should be humble and treat others with love and concern but should not enter
the field stating that he would help others. This will not help progressing in one's way. Each one has got a different
prarabdha and one cannot try to change another man's prarabdha.  He should remain in his own life and do sadhana.
On realization, he would understand that all are Brahmaswarupam. At the same time, Sri Bhagavan recommended to show
concern, love and affection to all fellow beings. How can someone who has got his own prarabdha, can set right another
man's prarabdha. However this is not selfishness.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 13, 2011, 08:16:10 AM
Q: In the West people cannot see how sages in solitude can be helpful.

M: Never mind Europe and America. Where are they except in your mind? If you wake up from a dream, do you try to ascertain if the people of your dream creation are also awake?

Have compassionate love for others but keep it secret; do not make a display of it, or talk about it. If your desires are fulfilled, do not be elated; and if you are frustrated do not be disappointed. The elation may be deceptive; it should be checked, for initial joy may end in final grief. After all, whatever happens, you remain unaffected, just as you are.

Q: But how can I help another with his problems?

M: What is this talk of another? There is only the One. Try to realize there is no I, no you, no he, only the one Self which is all. If you believe in the problem of another, you are believing in something outside the Self. You will help him best by realizing the oneness of everything, rather than by outward activity.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on December 13, 2011, 12:57:11 PM

Dear prasanath,

Yes. While Sri Bhagavan helped a number of people though not materially but by solving their individual problems, and though
He showed compassion towards other living beings like squirrels, dogs, monkeys, deer, cow, He did not recommend anyone to
take up large scale helping of others through philanthropic activities and social work.  Without knowing oneself, i.e without
attaining the Self, if one goes for all these external activities, such activities will only make the ego only become bigger and arrogant.
I have done this; I have done that; such attitude will develop with arrogance and pride. So He exhorted any one who came to Him,
to first find out who he really is. If this self knowledge is attained, then one will understand that there is really no 'other' to help !
He used to say: There is no ajnani. All are Jnanis. Why Jnanis, there is only Jnanam !

Arunachala Siva.         
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 13, 2011, 07:37:18 PM
well said subramanian garu.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 14, 2011, 09:30:26 AM
Q: Has the body any value to the Self?

M: Yes, it is through the body's help that the Self is realized
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Post by: Subramanian.R on December 14, 2011, 10:00:26 AM
Dear prasanth,

Very nice.  The only purpose of the body is to serve as a medium to realize the Self.  Once Kavyakanta Ganapati Muni and
Sri Bhagavan were strolling on the Hill.  Muni told Sri Bhagavan: Bhagavan!  if one can have an income of Rs 3.00 per month
(it was in 1920s. Now you need Rs 30,000/-) one can sit quiet and do atma vichara and realize the Self without any worries
and anxieties!  Sri Bhagavan replied: Nayana!  Why Rs 3/-. The body alone is sufficient. If one can have a body one can sit
without worries and anxieties and do atma vichara to realize the Self!  The Muni became speechless and found Sri Bhagavan
to be genuinely carefree without worrying from where His next meal would come!

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 14, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
yes sri bhagavan is unique in many aspects.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on December 14, 2011, 01:56:17 PM
Dear prasanth,

There is one book titled The Uniqueness of Bhagavan, by Prof. K. Subrahmanyam of Hyderabad.  The book lists about
10 to 15 aspects of Sri Bhagavan's uniqueness.  K. Subrahmanyan was Professor of English Language Institute, Hyderabad
and the founder of Hyderabad Ramana Kendramu. He has since merged with Sri Bhagavan.

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 14, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
Dear Subramanian garu,

Yes. i came to know about Prof. K. Subrahmanyam when i visited ramana kendram in hyd.

Infact his photo is placed in the entrance of the ramana kendram.

I have bought few books + 3 sets of 2012 calendars + few stickers + few key chains.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 15, 2011, 08:14:48 AM
Q: What about diet?

M: Food affects the mind. The right food makes it more sattvic (harmonious, clear). For the practice of any kind of (spiritual) yoga, vegetarianism is absolutely necessary
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Post by: Subramanian.R on December 15, 2011, 08:29:25 AM

Dear prasanth,

Yes. Right from Who am I?  (1901), Sri Bhagavan had been insisting on Sattvic food.  He did not of course, compel any one -
be it foreigner or Indian to switch over to vegetarian food if they had been non vegetarians.  Chadwick, though a Westerner,
was already a vegetarian.  Devaraja Mudaliar though Indian was a non vegetarian.  However Mudaliar switched over to vegetarian
food in course of time and found that his sadhana had been improving a lot. Arthur Osborne took many years to switch over. He
has described this, at length in his book My Life and Quest.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 16, 2011, 07:05:18 AM
Q: What about those not accustomed to a vegetarian diet?

M: Habit is only adjustment to the environment. It is the mind that matters. The fact is that the mind has been trained to think certain foods tasty. Nourishment may be obtained from vegetarian food no less than from flesh. But the realized person's mind is not influenced by the food eaten. However, get accustomed to vegetarianism gradually.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 21, 2011, 10:20:59 AM
Q:   Do you recommend that meat and alcohol be given up?

M:   Yes. It is a useful aid in the beginning. The difficulty in surrendering them is not that they are really necessary, but that we have become habituated to them. Until the mind is firm in realization, it must have some picture or idea to dwell on, or else the meditation will quickly give way to sleep or (wandering) thoughts. There is a subtle essence in all food; it is this which affects the mind. So, for those who are practicing meditation to find the Self, dietetic rules have been laid down, which it is advisable to follow. Sattvic (pure, bland) foods promote meditation, whereas rajasic (spicy hot) food and tamasic (aged, stale, heavy) food like meat hinder it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 21, 2011, 10:31:02 AM
Q:   Could one receive spiritual illumination while eating meat?

M:   Yes, but abandon it gradually and accustom yourself to sattvic (pure) food. Once you have attained illumination, what you eat will make less difference, just as on a great fire it is immaterial what fuel is added.

A devotee had been following a strict regime, eating only one very light meal a day. The Maharshi remarked at breakfast, "Why don't you also give up coffee" His implication was to rebuke the over-importance placed on diet regulation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 21, 2011, 10:39:51 AM
Q:   But if it is a matter of non-killing, then even plants have life.

M:   And so do the tiles which you are sitting on!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 22, 2011, 08:20:21 PM
Q:   Why do you take milk but not eggs?

M:   Domesticated cows yield more milk than their calves require and they find it a pleasure to be relieved. Eggs contain potential lives.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 24, 2011, 02:56:57 PM
Q:   I take food three or four times a day and attend to bodily wants so much that I am oppressed by the body. Is there a state when I shall be disembodied so that I might be free from the scourge of bodily wants?

M:   It is the attachments that are harmful: the actions are not bad in themselves. There is no harm in eating three or four times a day, but just do not say, "I want this kind of food and not that kind," and so on. Not only that, but you take these meals in twelve hours of the waking state, whereas you are not eating in the twelve hours of sleep. Does sleep lead you to mukti (liberation)? It is wrong to suppose that simple inactivity (in itself) leads one to mukti.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 27, 2011, 09:28:59 AM
Q:   Is it harmless to continue smoking?

M:   No, tobacco is a poison. It is better to do without it. Tobacco gives only a temporary stimulation to which there must be a reaction with craving for more. Also, it is not good for meditation practice.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 28, 2011, 05:12:15 PM
Q:   Is there any drug to promote meditation?

M:   No, because afterwards the user would be unable to meditate without taking it habitually. Those who take opium or alcohol are unconsciously seeking the blissful thoughtless state of the real Self. They get an intimation of that bliss by drugs, but afterwards they must resume their normal state and the craving comes back even stronger until they become chronic addicts and slaves to the substance. With all such artificial stimulants there must be a fall. If the mind is subdued, everything is conquered.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 29, 2011, 11:41:28 AM
On animals

The Maharshi's care for animals is legendary. After being stung by a scorpion he gave the following response.

I stepped unwittingly on a scorpion and hurt it, so it stung me in return to remind me of its existence.

Animals can think like human beings. We must not imagine they are senseless creatures. Some who have been in contact with people can understand words and conversations. The Maharshi pointed to a cow and said she could think intelligently.

One night, a sleeping snake fell down from the roof of the Ashram hall. The Maharshi ordered the men to take a lantern to light its path to the door and told them not to hurt it. Regarding the snakes, which infested the place, he said, "We have come to their abode as guests and so we have no right to molest them. Let us leave them in peace."
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Post by: Subramanian.R on December 29, 2011, 12:53:06 PM
Dear prasanth,

Recently a number of books have come under the title Prani mitra Bhagavan, covering various animals and birds that moved with
Him.

Once a frog suddenly leaped and hit His eye.  His eye became red. The devotees were anxious. Sri Bhagavan said: Nothing,
It says Good Morning to me!

Only a Jivan Mukta can be like that.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 29, 2011, 07:47:43 PM
well said subramanian garu  :) bhagavan is unique and none like bhagavan.

just couple of days back our family has done satyanarayana vratam and in one of the conversations with the priest i said i am a devotee of bhagavan ramana and he started all kinds of praises for bhagavan.

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 30, 2011, 09:52:02 AM
Brahmacharya and sexuality

Q: What are the passions?

M: They are the same force that is used in meditation, but diverted into other channels
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 03, 2012, 09:54:09 AM
The news of a devotees marriage was conveyed to the Maharshi.

Q:   Why has he done this? Surely it is a step back?

M:   (Laughing.) Why should marriage interfere with his spiritual progress? Unless bodily wants such as hunger, thirst, and evacuation are satisfied, meditation cannot progress. The results of vichara (Self-Inquiry) meditation, are will-power, developed concentration, control of passions, indifference to worldly objects, virtue and equality to all.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 03, 2012, 12:57:21 PM
Dear prasanth,

A Jnani or a Jnana Sadhaka can lead any type of life, married or celibate and it does not affect his jnanam or sadhana. Kaduveli
Siddhar married a deva dasi as per her wishes and also got a child. Tondaripodi Azhwar also fell in love with a dancer.  But his
Jnana did not get affected by it.

Arunachala Siva.
 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 04, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
Q: Isn't brahmacharya (celibacy) necessary?

M: Brahmacharya means "living in Brahman." It has no connection with celibacy as is commonly understood. A real brahmachari finds bliss in Brahman, the same as Self.

Q: But isnt celibacy a requirement for yoga?

M: Yes, it is. It is one of many aids to realization.
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Post by: ramanaduli on January 04, 2012, 01:10:41 PM
Dear sir,

Jnani can perform many activities in the world without any kamana. But seeing them agnani also may do and accumulate papam. Is not it?  The ignorant may argue if jnani can do this why I cannot.  So individual must be very carefull in his sadhana. Is not it?


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 04, 2012, 04:15:44 PM
Dear ramanaduli,

Yes. You cannot ape the guru or a self realized Jnani. It will be more dangerous than not doing anything.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 05, 2012, 09:45:30 AM
Q: Isn't brahmacharya (celibacy) essential? Can a married person realize the Self?

M: Certainly! Married or unmarried, a person can realize the Self because it is here and now. It is a matter of the fitness of the mind. Have there not been people living with their spouse and family yet attaining realization?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 05, 2012, 11:56:17 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes.  Sri Bhagavan has said true celibacy is only internal renounciation of all desires. 

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 06, 2012, 09:49:42 AM
Q: Is it better for reaching salvation to be married or celibate?

M: Whatever you think is better. There is no difference. Thoughts must cease and reason disappears. Feeling is the prime factor in meditation, not reason. It ought to come at the right side of the chest, not in the head, because the Heart is there. It must be held tight.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 09, 2012, 10:00:35 AM
Q: Is marriage a bar to spiritual progress?

M: The householder's life is not a bar, but householders must do their utmost to practice self-control. If a person has a strong desire for the higher life then sexual desire will drop away. When the mind is destroyed the other desires are also destroyed.
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Post by: Hari on January 09, 2012, 01:25:19 PM
Q: Is marriage a bar to spiritual progress?

M: The householder's life is not a bar, but householders must do their utmost to practice self-control. If a person has a strong desire for the higher life then sexual desire will drop away. When the mind is destroyed the other desires are also destroyed.

Yes. But the problem is that householder who is not Self-realized even if he doesn't want sex, absence of sexual activity becomes a problem for the couple. And this can lead to family issues. It's difficult to be married and to lead a restrained sexual life (just for procreation) in Kali Yuga.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 10, 2012, 09:59:06 AM
Q: How can we root out the sex idea?

M: By rooting out the false idea of the body being the Self. There is no sex in the Self. Be the real Self, then there will be no trouble with sex
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 10, 2012, 10:05:12 AM
Dear ramana,

If a sadhaka is genuinely interested in higher goal and for this purpose, control the sexual impulses, then the Divinity will also
design in such a way that his spouse is also having total control over sex. In such  cases, there will not be any family issues.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 10, 2012, 12:44:17 PM
well said Subramanian garu. I agree with your views andi.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 11, 2012, 09:58:19 AM
Q: Do you approve of sexual continence?

M:. A true brahmachari is one who dwells in Brahman. In that case there will be no question of desires any more.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 11, 2012, 10:35:37 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan always defined a Brahmachari as one who stays in the support of Brahman. Brahman + asrayam. That is why,
He said that there is no need for any one to remain celibate or take up sannyasam.  He also said that true sannyasam is internal
renunciation.

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 12, 2012, 09:57:43 AM
Q: At Sri Aurobindo's Ashram there is a strict rule that married couples can live there on condition that they abstain from sexual intercourse.

M: What use is that? If it exists in the mind, what use is there in forcing people to abstain?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 12, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan has correctly answered.  What is the use of couples living separately in the Aurobindo
Ashram?  If mind is corrupt with sexual desire, then it is as good as sexual union with wife or any lady.
That is why the Srutis say that a sannyasi thinking of sex is as much as a householder or even worse.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 12, 2012, 07:48:56 PM
Yes sir but at the same time even bhagavan ramana followed many rules in his life.

Bhagavan ramana did not allow women to stay back in ashramam at night times as he himself had seen one male and female devotee walking closely in the past.

Now the same question can be asked to bhagavan by Sri Aurobindo's devotees that What use is that? If it exists in the mind, what use is there in forcing women devotees to return to their homes?

So To be frank i dont see nothing wrong when Sri Aurobindo asked married couples if living in his ashramam to follow some rules which may eventually help the couple to get rid of the lustful thoughts.

I dont say that it is the only way to get rid of lustful feelings but as you know in hyderabad to go to charminar there are 4 ways to reach.

Now persons entering 1st way have no right to say that their's way is the only perfect way and all other ways are wrong.

There are few statements made by bhagavan which i feel are mis-translated or deliberatly added by ashrama management authorities for various reasons.

But to be honest bhagavan ramana to the most extent resisted the temptation to justify himself or to criticise other people though he could not achieve it always which is fine as i think it is impossible to supress ego to complete extent even in the case of swami's.

Because bhagavan ramana showed himself by example by following his teachings and resisted the temptation to justify himself or to criticise other people to the most extent i will ever remain as his devotee.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 13, 2012, 09:54:59 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan did not allow women to stay in the Asramam overnight for the sake of their own safety. 

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 13, 2012, 10:20:10 AM
Q: Does the use of birth-control lead to immorality?

M: You must go to the root of things. Find out the true cause of birth and then stifle that. Let that which is born control itself. For whom is this birth? There is an ancient verse which says, "Desires go on increasing and burn more fiercely as they are fed," so the only effective control is to check the causes within, to restrain the desires and thus become moral.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 16, 2012, 09:59:51 AM
Q: Is continence the only method to control the size of a family?

M: Yes. The other methods only give temporary relief and treat just the symptoms
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 17, 2012, 10:03:43 AM
Q: Where there is a conflict of desires, one for a child and the other for sex union, which should be chosen?

M: If you are able to stifle one of them, why not stifle both? Why should you interfere with the laws of nature? Let he who made the laws of nature operate them. The sex impulse is strong enough already, why strengthen it further? If you understand the truth in nature, sexual desire will not arise at all. If you remove the sense of diversity, that which gives sex its power will also be removed.
Nature makes some people barren or deprives others of their children, yet to others she gives many children. Thus if you attempt to control birth, try to control death as well.

(Laughing.) If we could all remain as children and not grow up at all, what a happy world it would be!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 18, 2012, 10:22:52 AM
Sannyasa (renunciation)

Sannyasa is the giving up of the ego. Even though a person may be living as a householder in the family circle, the various occurrences of the world will not affect him if his ego is surrendered. Thus dream experiences do not really affect us. As he quietly lies in his bed, a man dreams he is in water, but his bed is not really wet. On the other hand, a person in the sannyasa ashrama, yet who is still attached to the body, is a karmi (person of action, not renunciation).

So long as anyone thinks that they are a sannyasin, they are not one. So long as one does not think of world-illusion, one is not worldly, but is a real sannyasin. The patients must themselves take the medicine prescribed by the doctor to be cured of illness. So too, the guru prescribes the path, but the aspirants must themselves follow it.

Where is renunciation? It is not outside us, it is here (pointing to the heart). Where is solitude? In the mind. Alexander Selkirk was alone on the island but he wanted to get away, so that was not solitude for him. We must achieve these things within ourselves. The Kingdom of Heaven is to be found within us.

(Alexander Selkirk, 1676-1721, was put ashore on an uninhabited island in the Pacific at his own request; the inspiration for Defoe's story, Robinson Crusoe.)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 19, 2012, 09:54:40 AM
Q: What is renunciation?

M: Giving up the ego.

Q: Is it not giving up possessions?

M: The possessor too.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 20, 2012, 10:01:14 AM
Q: How does a householder fare on the path?

M: Why do you think of yourself as a householder? If you go out as a sannyasin, similar thoughts will haunt you that you are a sannyasin. Whether in the house or in the forest, your mind haunts you. The ego is the source of thoughts. It creates the body and the world and makes you think you are a householder. If you renounce the world, it will only substitute the thought "sannyasi" for "householder" and the environment of the forest for the home. The mental obstacles will still be there. Changing the environment will not help, for the mind must be overcome, in both places. If you can do it in the forest, why not in the home? You can make an effort now, whatever the environment. Your surroundings never abandon you. Look at me. I left home. Look at yourselves. You have come here leaving the home environment. What do you find here now? Is it different from your home? That is the reason for emphasizing sahaja samadhi. One should be in spontaneous samadhi, i.e. in one's pristine state, even in the midst of one's surroundings.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 23, 2012, 09:58:25 AM
Q:   Why did you run away from home as a youth, even though you do not tell people to renounce?

M:   Some power took me away. It will not do to give up work. It is only when a person has realized, that the world ceases to exist for them. It does not mean that we ought to give up our work.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 23, 2012, 01:49:20 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan said: One cannot give up his householdership and then take sannyasa.  One cannot give up work and take up\
a life of renunciation.  All these should be directed by a Maha Sakti.  And again, mere wearing of ochre robes would not mean
renunciation. One should first internally renounce everything and intensely seek for realization.

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 23, 2012, 10:51:49 PM
well said sir.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 24, 2012, 10:02:06 AM
Q: Should I get away from my wife and family?

M: What harm do they do? First find out who you are.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 25, 2012, 10:02:36 AM
Q: Should one give up home, wife, wealth, etc., since they are all samsara (birth and death; life in this world)?

M: First learn what samsara is. Is all that samsara? Does that mean that people who live with them cannot get realization?

What are you? Are you the body? No. You are pure Consciousness. Retirement means abidance in the Self, nothing more. It is not leaving one set of surroundings to become entangled in another, nor even leaving the concrete world and wallowing in the mental world. The birth of a son, his death, etc., is also in the Self. The question of compatibility does not arise.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 25, 2012, 12:51:02 PM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan indicates in Verse 24 of Ulladu Narpadu, what is samsara really is.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 26, 2012, 11:53:55 AM
Q: How can we control lust and anger?

M: Whose are these passions? Find out! If you remain as the Self, you will find there is nothing apart from it. Then there will be no need for control.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 26, 2012, 12:46:22 PM
Dear prasanth,

Once when Sri Bhagavan was asked the same question about lust and anger, He replied:  Are these things in your deep sleep?
They are coming only when you wake up. Why? Investigate it and you will be able to find a solution.

Arunachala Siva.
 

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 26, 2012, 06:08:37 PM
yes bhagavan always stuck to the core point.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 27, 2012, 10:03:58 AM
Q: I have committed a sexual sin.

M: Even if you have, it does not matter, so long as you do not think afterwards that you have done so. The Self is not aware of any sin, and renunciation of sex is internal, not merely of the body.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 27, 2012, 01:48:19 PM
Dear prasanth,

Something similar to the questioner's story, happened in Annamalai Swami's life in the Asramam, when he was in
charge of construction work.  Sri Bhagavan gave him a punishment and then Swami totally jettisoned sexual thoughts.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: swayam on January 28, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
Q: I have committed a sexual sin.

M: Even if you have, it does not matter, so long as you do not think afterwards that you have done so. The Self is not aware of any sin, and renunciation of sex is internal, not merely of the body.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Hmm , the answer , not able to quite understand. What does Bhagavan means by below, can anyone please throw some light

"so long as you do not think afterwards that you have done so"

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 28, 2012, 03:47:52 PM
Dear Swayam,

The body has already committed the sin.  Nothing can be done about it. Thinking about it, will only add to a man's regret or further
desires.  Both are thoughts. So Sri Bhagavan discouraged it by saying so.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: swayam on January 28, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya,

Subramanian Sir,

What did Bhagavan say regarding repentance ?

Its human tendency to feel guilty for what one has does. Ofcourse inspite of repenting/feeling guilty one might end up committing same sin again. ITs so tough to get rid of guilty feeling whenever we commit a mistake.Its so natural.

How should I be vigilant so that I won't commit the same mistake again, we normal humans get some sense of comfortness in repentance isn't it. Sometimes I feel bad that Iam not feeling bad/guilty enough for what I have done  :) :(

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: Subramanian.R on January 28, 2012, 05:23:25 PM
Dear Swayam,

What is total surrender? It is nothing but giving up your mind / ego to Sri Bhagavan.  In such a surrender, the feelings of guilt is also
submitted. It is the mind, which feels happiness, misery, pain, pleasure, guilt and pride. All are submitted to Him.

Sri Bhagavan has said once: I have come here to grace people. If I start punishing them, not even a crow would fly over the Asramam.
Thus, He is personification of Grace. That Grace will make all these including the guilt vanish.

Sri Bhagavan has also said: You are the Self. All these feelings and actions are by the mind and body. Give the mind and body
to me. I shall take care and you will remain the Self.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 30, 2012, 10:04:16 AM
Q: I have wanted to commit adultery.

M: It is better to stick to your wife.

Q: I am carried away by the sight of my young neighbors breasts and often tempted to commit adultery with her. What shall I do?

M: You are always pure. It is your senses and body which tempt you and which you confuse with your real Self. So first know who is tempted and who is there to tempt. But even if you do commit adultery, do not think about it afterwards, because you yourself are always pure. You are not the sinner.
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Post by: swayam on January 30, 2012, 08:06:18 PM

M:  But even if you do commit adultery, do not think about it afterwards, because you yourself are always pure. You are not the sinner.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Hmm, in that case I might end up doing the same mistake again and again, by taking advantage of above statement.
So when will I change then, I will go into a whirlpool of one mistake after the other isn't it.

Just trying to understand what Bhagavan really intended in above statement.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 31, 2012, 10:06:05 AM
Q: How can we combine spiritual and worldly life?

M: There is only one experience. What are worldly experiences but those built up on the false 'I'?

Q: Worldly life is very distracting.

M: Do not allow yourself to be distracted! Find out for whom there is distraction. It will not bother you after a little practice.

Q: But even the attempt is impossible.

M: Do it and you will not find it so difficult.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 01, 2012, 10:01:15 AM
Q: So it amounts to this: I should always look within.

M: Yes.

Q: Should I not see the world at all?

M: You are not instructed to shut your eyes to the world. If you consider yourself to be the body, the world appears as external. If you are the Self, the world appears as Brahman.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 01, 2012, 11:53:31 PM
Q: What about toothache?

M: The pain is in the mind. What happens to the toothache during sleep? Do you feel the pain then? No. Well, in the Self you are always in happiness.

Q: The Christian Science healings are on the same principle.

M: Yes, and similar results are also obtained by will-power. Will and the Self are the same. Think of the Self despite the mosquitoes, or toothache. It needs strength, but one must be a hero to gain realization.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on February 02, 2012, 07:45:25 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Atma Vidya is not for the weak minded.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 03, 2012, 10:01:29 AM
Q: Is it necessary to give up worldly desires?

M: Why do we desire? Inquire. If you find no real happiness in your desires, then your mind will not be attracted to them. However, subconscious tendencies may tempt you there, but you will return.

Why do you want the life of freedom? The fact that you crave it implies that you are bound. But really you are ever free. Know that Self, and desires will fall away of their own accord. Bring all desires and thoughts to one point within; that is realization. Mind should be still. The bee buzzes noisily around the flower seeking honey. When it finds it, it is silent and still. So it is with a persons soul, which is seeking by desires the one true honey.
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Post by: swayam on February 04, 2012, 09:27:20 AM

M:  But even if you do commit adultery, do not think about it afterwards, because you yourself are always pure. You are not the sinner.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Hmm, in that case I might end up doing the same mistake again and again, by taking advantage of above statement.
So when will I change then, I will go into a whirlpool of one mistake after the other isn't it.

Just trying to understand what Bhagavan really intended in above statement.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

My question is yet to be answered  :(

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: Nagaraj on February 04, 2012, 09:39:08 AM
Dear Swayam,

Bhagavan simplys says, to stop brooding about past and worrying about the future and stick and utilize the to the present moment consciously for only this moment is reality. This moment is free of any sins and karma.

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: ramanaduli on February 04, 2012, 10:52:06 AM
Dear sir,

Whenever we do karma we get bound to face sins. That is why saints say we have to be very careful to choose the karma and have to do without any expectation. All human beings are get confused in this karma theory.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on February 04, 2012, 04:10:48 PM
Dear swayam,

When Sri Bhagavan says, 'Even if you commit an adultery, do not keep thinking about it for ever.' 
What does it mean? Is it a licence to do it again and again? No. Once you stop thinking about the act
after it was done for the first time, where is the question of doing it in the second time?  How can you
do it once the thinking of it is stopped?  Thoughts are the enemy. Doership and enjoyership are the enemies.
The first act of adultery may be due to a rush of lust and desire.   After stopping the thought about it, how can
you do it again?


Dear ramanaduli,


About Karmas, Sri Bhagavan said a few things:

1. Do it without the sense of doership. That is, when the ego is not there, then karmas can be done since all fruits are
also submitted to God.

2. Do it without the enjoyership, bhogtrartvam. That means even the fruits of it, you should take it with out feeling the ego.

3. If one could stop karmas altogether, it is the finest thing.
    This is the state of akarma.

4. A brahma jnani can do any karmas because he has no ego.

5. Simple acts of eating food and drinking water or coffee are not karmas in the real sense. It is demanded by the prakriti
(nature) and so you do it. Even body does karma like digesting the food, urination and excretion. These are also demands
of prakriti.

 
Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: swayam on February 04, 2012, 08:17:15 PM
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Nagaraj Sir and Subramanian Sir

Thank your for your clarification.

Quote
After stopping the thought about it, how can you do it again?

Well its not so easy to control bad thoughts be it adultery or be it something else. So I will not do it again only I am successful in stopping
the thought once for all. I think whenever it arises again and again, I think one should use Brahmastra of Bhagavan - "who is getting the thought"  :) , but does this kind of questioning work always. One should have mountains of persistence to keep questioning oneself like that.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 05, 2012, 11:43:33 AM
Dear swayam,

your attitude makes sense and hope you succeed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 06, 2012, 10:02:58 AM
Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in his rocking chair.

M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! If someone else takes that seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is rocking really so pleasant? It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! Siva gave all his possessions to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, cemeteries and the wilderness, living off food he had begged. In his view, non-possession is higher on the scale of happiness than possessions. The higher happiness is to be free from anxieties
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 07, 2012, 10:02:32 AM
Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee?

M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual food is common to all and never denied to anyone.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 08, 2012, 10:08:16 AM
Work

You may carry on with your government work and you may continue to live the married life in the world as before. You may assume the stage which transcends all stages, only do not forget the One. Keep your mind on That all the time, whatever you happen to be doing.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 09, 2012, 10:09:19 AM
Q: How is work to be done by an aspirant?

M: Without identification as the actor (or doer of the work). For instance, when you were in Paris, you did not know you would come here, or have the intention to do so. You see how you are acting regardless of your own intentions? In Chapter 3 verse 4 of the Bhagavad Gita, it says that a person cannot remain without acting (doing). The purpose of one's birth will be fulfilled automatically, by itself, whether you will it or not.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 10, 2012, 10:04:46 AM
Q: I have no interest in business as I am afraid it will affect my yoga practice.

M: No, it wont. Your viewpoint will change, as it says in the Gita (Chapter 2). You will regard business in the light of a mere dream, but that will not affect it, for you will go on attending to it as if it were serious.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on February 10, 2012, 03:44:59 PM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan used to give the example of a bank cashier. He counts thousands of rupees, and at the same nothing is his.
Yet he does the work with great vigilance. One should do work in the office with great vigilance but not thinking that this
is all mine and I am doing the work.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 13, 2012, 10:00:22 AM
Q: The difficulty is to be in the thoughtless state and attend to duties.

M: Let the thoughtless state be of itself. Do not think of it as pertaining to yourself. When you walk, you take steps involuntarily. Let your other actions happen in the same way. Gradually concentration will become pleasant and easy and you will be in that state whether attending to business or whether you sit expressly for meditation. Business will be all the easier for you when your mind is steadied and strengthened by concentration.
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Post by: Nagaraj on February 13, 2012, 10:16:04 AM
We think too much, that is the main problem and more than that, we judge our thinking much more, that makes it worse!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 14, 2012, 10:05:22 AM
As the Maharshi was going down the hill, some sweepers were at their work. One of them stopped and was about to prostrate before him. The Maharshi spoke to them.

M: To engage in your duty is the true namaskar (homage; or prostration before God or Guru). To perform one's duty carefully is the greatest service to God.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 15, 2012, 09:58:28 AM
Q: How to reconcile work with meditation?

M: Who is the worker? Let him who works ask the question. You are always the Self, not the mind. It is the mind which raises these questions. Work always goes along in the presence of the Self. Work is no hindrance to realization. It is the mistaken identity with the worker that is the trouble. Get rid of the false identity. Activities go on automatically every day. Know that the mind prompting them is but a phantom proceeding from the Self. Why do you think that you are active? The activities are not your own; they are God's.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 16, 2012, 09:59:58 AM
Q: They say that effort will lead to blankness of mind and work will not be possible.

M: Go first to that blankness and then tell me.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on February 16, 2012, 01:52:40 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. This blankness is a tiny time of void which one has to put up with, to experience the Self thereafter which is full of bliss.
This is also mentioned by the disciple to the guru in Vivekachudamani. Nochur Venkataraman says that all Vedanta sravanam
is only to overcome this blankness or void.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 17, 2012, 09:59:00 AM
Q: How can my mind be still if I have to use it more than other people? I want to go into solitude and renounce my work as a headmaster.

M: No. You can stay where you are and go on with work. What is the undercurrent which gives life to the mind and enables it to do all this work? It's the Self. So, that is the real source of your activity. Simply become aware of it during your work and do not forget it. Contemplate it in the background of your mind even while you are working. To do that, do NOT hurry! Take your time, keep the remembrance of your real nature alive, even while working, and avoid haste, which causes you to forget. Be deliberate. Practice meditation to still the mind and cause it to become aware of its true relationship to the Self, which supports it. Do not imagine it is you who are doing the work. Think that it is the underlying current that is doing it. Identify yourself with this current. If you work unhurriedly, recollectedly, your work or service need not be a hindrance.
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Post by: swayam on February 18, 2012, 06:26:06 AM
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Wow !! what a profound answer.
... Be delebarate....

Dear Prashanth, can you pl share the book and page numbers from which you are quoting these dialy quotes.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 19, 2012, 11:45:46 PM
Dear Swayam,

I am registered to a ramana maharshi based spiritual organisation based in US and they send me these quotes sir.

I am not sure whether they are maintaining any archive for these daily quotes.

I will enquire and let you know andi.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 20, 2012, 10:04:30 AM
The Maharshi compared the spokes of a wheel, which are all contained within the same circle, whether they are thick or thin, to the intellectual work contained within the circle of the Self.

In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna told Arjuna to be fixed in the Self and to act according to his nature, without the thought of a doer, and that then the results of his actions would not affect him. Thus abidance in the Self is the sum of the Gita's teaching. Even if it is interpreted as duty and action, it means to act as the tool of a higher power.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 21, 2012, 10:07:46 AM
Q: How can we reconcile realization with wage-earning activities?

M: Actions are not a cause of bondage. Bondage is only the false notion that "1" am acting. Reject such thoughts but let the body and senses play their roles unimpeded by your interference.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on February 21, 2012, 01:12:49 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Ego less actions of a human being are actions of the Self within.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: swayam on February 21, 2012, 08:53:26 PM
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Dear Swayam,

I am registered to a ramana maharshi based spiritual organisation based in US and they send me these quotes sir.

I am not sure whether they are maintaining any archive for these daily quotes.

I will enquire and let you know andi.


thanks Prashanth garu.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 22, 2012, 10:07:20 AM
Q: Is work an obstruction to Self- realization?

M: No. For the realized person the Self alone is the Reality, and actions are only phenomenal, not affecting the Self. There is no sense of being an agent. For beginners it may be initially difficult to practice Self-inquiry while engaged in work, but after some practice it will soon be effective and the work will not be a hindrance to meditation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 23, 2012, 12:46:40 AM
Q: My work hinders me.

M: If you have the right attitude, the kind of life you lead does not matter very much.

One of the Ashram workers had put in several years of physical labor. Eventually the Maharshi told him, "Your karma is finished. Go away now and meditate."
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Post by: Subramanian.R on February 23, 2012, 01:01:25 PM
Dear prasanth,

I think he is Annamlai Swami.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 23, 2012, 05:02:21 PM
yes sir i even think so.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 24, 2012, 09:59:32 AM
Suffering

There has been evil and sorrow since the beginning of creation. You ask why the rishis (sages) do not put matters right. The Vedas tell of the demons (asuras) who have existed since the earliest times. There is a force of opposition in the world which produces strife and suffering but it works to make humankind grow and evolve. It is a force in nature, which exists with the good.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 27, 2012, 10:03:09 AM
Q: What is the purpose of all the suffering and evil in the world?

M: Your question is itself an outcome of the suffering. Sorrow makes one think of God. If it were not for the suffering, would you have asked the question? Except for jnanis (those who are realized), everybody, from a king to a peasant, has a certain amount of sorrow. Even in cases where it seems to be absent it is only a matter of time -- sooner or later it comes. Also, one may not question sorrow or God at the first blow, but one is likely to at the fifth. We have taken this vehicle (the body) in order to know our real state.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on February 27, 2012, 10:35:04 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. See the beautiful conversation of Sri Bhagavan with a devotee in
Talks No. 241.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 28, 2012, 10:00:04 AM
Q: But why should imperfection come from perfection?

M: Had it not been for the manifestation of the universe, we would not have thought about the real state. The purpose of the manifestation is for you to know the cause of it. There is no maya (illusion) when you know your real state. It is your fault if you do not know yourself.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 29, 2012, 09:59:30 AM
Q: Is the world plan really good then?

M: It is indeed good. The error is on our part. When we correct that error, the whole scheme becomes good.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 01, 2012, 09:56:07 AM
Q: How is it possible to change world suffering?

M: Realize the Self; that is all that is necessary.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 02, 2012, 09:54:41 AM
Q: The world is materialistic. What is the remedy for that?

M: Material or spiritual, it is according to your outlook. Correct your outlook! The Creator knows how to take care of His creation.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on March 02, 2012, 10:50:46 AM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan said:  For having a shave, you  do not shave the mirror.


Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: swayam on March 04, 2012, 07:10:20 PM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan said:  For having a shave, you  do not shave the mirror.


Arunachala Siva.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

So Bhagavan is saying that first change yourself, why are you bothered about what is happening outside ??.
Did I get it wrong.Pl correct my understanding

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: nonduel on March 04, 2012, 07:14:20 PM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan said:  For having a shave, you  do not shave the mirror.


Arunachala Siva.

 :) :) :) :)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 04, 2012, 10:34:38 PM
Dear Swayam,

yes, your understanding is correct sir. First change yourself is bhagavan's intention.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 05, 2012, 10:05:52 AM
Q: Is the world progressing?

M: There is one who governs the world, and it is His lookout to take care of it. He who has given life to the world also knows how to look after it. If we progress, the world progresses. As you are, so is the world. Without understanding, the Self, what is the use of understanding the world? Without Self-knowledge, knowledge of the world is of no use. See the world through the eyes of your supreme Self.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on March 05, 2012, 12:53:36 PM
Dear prasanth,

Once when someone said to Sri Bhagavan:  Is it not necessary to be patriotic?

Sri Bhagavan said: Do not try to be this and that. Be as you are. 

This hold good for reforms, freedom, progress and everything about the world.


Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 06, 2012, 09:59:40 AM
Q: There are widespread disasters in the world, for instance famine and pestilence. What is the cause for this state of affairs?

M: To whom does all this appear? You were not aware of the world and its suffering in your sleep. You arc conscious of them only in your waking state. Continue in the state in which you were not aware of the world, when its sufferings did not affect you. When you remain as the Self (as in sleep), the world and its sufferings will not affect you. Therefore look within. Seek the Self. There will then be an end to the world and its miseries.

Q: But that is selfishness.

M: The world is not external. Because you wrongly identify yourself with the body, you see world. Its pain becomes apparent to you. But they are not real. Seek the reality and get rid of this unreal feeling.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 07, 2012, 10:00:29 AM
Q: There are great people, public workers, who cannot solve the misery of the world.

M: They are ego-centered, hence the inability. If they remained in the Self, they would be different.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 08, 2012, 09:58:17 AM
Q: Why did the Self manifest as this miserable world?

M: In order that you might seek It. Your eyes cannot see themselves, but put a mirror in front of them and then, and only then, do they see themselves. Similarly with creation. See yourself first and then see the whole world as the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 09, 2012, 10:04:30 AM
Q: Why is there sorrow and evil in the universe?

M: It is God's will.

Q: Why?

M: He is inscrutable. No motive can be attributed to that power, no desire, no goal to achieve, can be asserted of that all wise, all-powerful Being. Like the sun, God is untouched by the activities which take place in His presence. If the mind is unsatisfied or restless on account of events, it is a good idea to accept God's will as the solution; thus it is wise to drop the sense of responsibility and free will, by regarding ourselves as the instruments of God, to do and suffer as He pleases.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 12, 2012, 01:58:40 AM
Q: Why is there imperfection in perfection?

M: For whom is there relativity? For whom is there imperfection? The Absolute is not imperfect. Does the Absolute tell you that it is covered up? It is the individual soul who says something covers the Absolute
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 13, 2012, 01:04:01 AM
Q: We feel that there is a lot of misery caused by over-population, but if we did not exist, the misery would disappear too.

M: We can find out the cause of this misery by finding out the cause of our birth. If that which is born (the ego) is known, the evils disappear.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 14, 2012, 09:59:28 AM
Q: I am possessed by fears of disease and death.

M: Who gets the disease? Do you get it? If you analyze what you are, you see that disease cannot affect you. What are you? Do you die? Can you die? Think of the Atman; realize That!

Q: I try, but it doesn't stay in my mind for long.

M: Practice makes perfect.

Q: Meanwhile?

M: Meanwhile there need not be suffering.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 15, 2012, 09:54:56 AM
Q: We are men living in the world and have one kind of grief or another. We pray for help and are still not satisfied. What should we do?

M: Trust God. If you surrender you must be able to abide by His will and not grieve when things do not go as you would wish. They may turn out differently from how they appear. Distress often leads people to have faith in God.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 16, 2012, 08:30:41 AM
Q: The quest for Self is selfish in a world of misery.

M: The sea is not aware of its wave. Similarly, the Self is not aware of its ego.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 19, 2012, 12:45:43 AM
If a person's happiness were due to outer circumstances and possessions, then one without any possessions would have no happiness whatsoever.Does real experience show this?

No. For in deep sleep one is devoid of all possessions including the body, yet instead of being unhappy one enjoys blissful release. Doesn't everyone want to sleep soundly? Hence happiness is not due to external causes, but to returning into the Self. When the pure "I," the Reality, is forgotten, all kinds of misery crop up, but when the Self is held fast, the miseries do not affect one. Emergence from the Self has been the cause of all misery.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 20, 2012, 12:39:31 AM
Yoga and Pranayama

The cessation of mental activities is applicable to all systems of yoga. Only the methods differ. So long as there is effort made towards that goal, it is called yoga. The effort is the yoga. The cessation can be brought about in so many ways.

Firstly, by searching for the mind itself. When the mind is sought, its activities cease automatically. This is the method of jnana. The pure mind is the Self. Looking for the source of the mind is another method. The source may be said to be God or Self or Consciousness. Thirdly, concentration upon one thought makes all other thoughts disappear. Finally, that thought also disappears.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 21, 2012, 12:42:18 AM
Q: What does the Maharshi say about hatha yoga or tantric practices?

M: Maharshi does not criticize any of the existing methods. All are good for the purification of the mind, and it is only the purified mind that is capable of grasping this method and sticking to its practice.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 23, 2012, 12:44:18 AM
#3210

Q: Which is the best of the different yogas?

M: Have a look at the tenth stanza of the Upadesa Saram. All yogas ultimately lead to vichara (Self-inquiry) and teach abidance in the Self.

#3211

Q: Is yoga a good method of approach?

M: In the end there is only one approach to the goal, and that is through the realization of the Self, so why waste time on other roads, which at best only lead to the final path? Better to be on the final path itself all the time, than on an auxiliary route. Meditate on what the Self is, that is all. There is nothing else but to find the answer to that. See the Self in all; act
"automatically," so to speak, and let "It" do it and it always will. Do not look for results, do what is right and leave it.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on March 23, 2012, 12:58:08 PM
Dear prasanth,

All yogas are good. But one should ultimately come to self inquiry.  To remain where the ego sprouted first, is bhakti, yoga,
karma and jnana. (Upadesa Undiyar 10)

Wish you happy Ugadi.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 23, 2012, 05:25:44 PM
Thanks a lot for your wishes sir.

Eat ugadi prasadam in the morning which resembles that life is a combination of sweet,soar,bitter,hot  :)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 26, 2012, 10:00:43 AM
Q: What "union" does yoga imply?

M: You are the seeker. Is the "something" with which union is sought apart from you? You are already aware of the Self. Seek it out and it will expand to infinity. Be that.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 27, 2012, 06:22:25 AM
Q: Yoga means union, but the union of what with which?

M: Exactly. Yoga implies prior division, and subsequent union of one thing with another. Who is to be united with whom? In yoga, you are the seeker, seeking union with something that is apart from you. But your Self is intimate to you and you are aware of it. Seek it and BE it. Then it will expand as Infinity and there will be no question of yoga etc. To whom is viyoga (separation)? Find it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 28, 2012, 10:02:33 AM
Q: What is the Sun Path, ravi marga? What is the Moon Path? Which of them is easier?

M: The Sun Path is jnana (knowledge of Self), and the Moon Path is yoga. Yogis think that after purifying 12,000 nadis (channels through which energy flows) in the body, is entered and the mind passes up to the sahasrara chakra, where nectar flows. These are all mental concepts. The mind is already overwhelmed by the world of concepts. Better concepts are now added in the shape of this yoga. The purpose of all these is to rid one of concepts -- to make one remain as the pure Self, i.e. Absolute Consciousness, bereft of thoughts! Why not go straight to it? Why add new encumbrances to the ones that exist already?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 29, 2012, 09:57:18 AM
Q: What is pranayama?

M: Prana is equivalent to Self, soul, Atman etc, as it is the life current. Mind and prana originate from the same source. Pranayama is the control of the body, the senses and the intellect through the breath. Mind is thus controlled and gradually dies down with this practice. Eventually mind subsides and then an unconscious "blank" state is produced, a swoon or trance-like state. Although that is the natural state, a person who has not controlled the mind is dazed and merged in it. It is true that it is a state of great peace, but it is temporary, and when it ends the yogi wants to get it back and so begins breath control again. It is necessary for the yogi to go beyond pranayama and to gain direct control of the mind, and thus practice a permanent peace --sahaja samadhi -- not merely temporary samadhi.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on March 29, 2012, 11:41:45 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan says in Who am I: Pranyama controls the mind., When one is doing pranayama, the mind is controlled, but when
that exercise is over, the mind jumps out, and roams around with vasanas. Pranayama, moorthi dhyana, mantra japa etc., would
only quell the mind temporarily but not ensure mano nasa. Sattvic food in moderate quantities would also assist only to control the
mind.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 29, 2012, 05:28:34 PM
yes sir it is true.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 30, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
Q: What is pranayama? (cont'd)

M: The thing is to be able to bring the mind to peace, to make it still, and not allow it to wander. For that, pranayama (breath control) is prescribed, but pranayama is useful only in so far as it helps to attain mind-control. For those who seek mental peace this is enough, but there is also a highly detailed and complicated pranayama for those who seek siddhis.
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Post by: Nagaraj on March 30, 2012, 08:54:45 PM
Dear Prashant,

One ought to learn the Bhastrika, Ujjayi and Nadi Shuddhi Pranayamas - these are very basic and extremely powerful in balancing the mind and body complexities.

If one can also learn Suryanamaskar along with the above pranayamas, it is best.

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 02, 2012, 02:14:45 AM
Q : What is pranayama? (cont'd)

M: Pranayama (breath control) is for those who are not endowed with the strength to control the mind. For this purpose, keeping the company of sages is the surest way. Pranayama need not be exactly as described in hatha yoga. For one engaged in devotion or meditation, just a little control of the breath will suffice to control the mind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 03, 2012, 09:57:16 AM
Q: What is pranayama? (cont'd)

M: The mind is the rider and the breath is the horse; pranayama (breath control) is a restraint on the horse, and so by that, the rider is also checked. It may be done just a little. Watching the breath is one way to do it. The mind will be distracted from other activities and focused on watching the breath, and so the breath will be controlled and in its turn the mind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 04, 2012, 10:08:59 AM
Q: What is pranayama? (cont'd)

M: Do not worry if you are unable to do rechaka (exhalation) and puraka (inhalation), the breath may be retained for a short while during meditation, and that will bring good results. Regulation of the breath is gained by watching its movements. Similarly, if the mind is watched the thoughts will also cease. That is what the mind-quest really is.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 05, 2012, 10:02:08 AM
Q: What is pranayama? (cont'd)

M: Just as some meditation brings about suspension of the breath, the reverse is also possible, so the mind ceases to be restless after some breath control. Control of the mind spontaneously effects control of the breath.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 06, 2012, 01:40:42 AM
Q: What is pranayama? (cont'd)

M: Breath control is particularly appropriate for those who are practicing by themselves without a guru's presence, since mind control arises spontaneously in the presence of a superior power like a guru.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 09, 2012, 01:40:32 PM
Q: What is pranayama? (cont'd)

M: When life is threatened one's whole interest centers around saving it. Similarly, when the breath is held in pranayama, the mind cannot afford to jump at its accustomed external objects. Thus there is rest for it, so long as the breath is held.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 10, 2012, 01:59:31 AM
Q: What is pranayama? (cont'd)

M: Thought and respiration are both different aspects of the same individual life-current upon which both depend. If respiration is forcibly repressed, thought follows suit and is fixed to the usual dominant thought. If thought is forcibly slowed down and pinned to one point, the vital activity of respiration is also slowed down, eventually settling to the minimum required for the continuance of life. Thus the mind grasps the subtle and merges into it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 11, 2012, 10:00:06 AM
Q: What is pranayama? (cont'd)

M: The control of the breath calms the mind; then see who is aware of the calmness! Mechanical pranayama will not lead to the goal. It is only an aid. While doing it mechanically take care to be alert in mind, and remember the "I"-thought and seek its source. Then you will find that where prana sinks, there the "1"-thought arises. They arise and sink together. The "I"-thought will also sink along with prana.

Simultaneously, another luminous and infinite "I-I" will manifest and it will be continuous and unbroken. That is the goal. It goes by different names -- God, bhakti (devotion), jnana (knowledge of Self) etc. When the attempt is made, it will itself take you to the goal.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 12, 2012, 09:59:40 AM
Q: What is the difference and effect of the three methods, i.e. inquiry, bhakti (devotion) and control of the breath?

M: Kumbhaka is an aid to control of the mind -- suppression or
annihilation of thoughts. One person may practice pranayama
(rechaka, puraka, and kumbhaka, or practice only kumbhaka),
while another, a jnani,(one who is Self-realized) on controlling the mind, controls the prana, and kumbhaka automatically results. Watching the inhalation and exhalation is also pranayama. These methods only appear to be threefold. They are in fact only one because they lead to the same goal. However, they are adopted differently according to the stage an aspirant is at and on an individual's vasanas (inherent tendencies) or samskaras (mental tendencies from the past.

Breath control is meant for those who cannot directly control their thoughts. It serves as a brake serves a car. One should not stop with pranayama but proceed to concentration and contemplation. The postures help breath control, which in turn help contemplation, hence hatha yoga, which is also a cleansing process.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 13, 2012, 10:01:39 AM
Q: Why is regulation of the breath necessary?

M: Concentration on the breath or its regulation is only for controlling the mind so that it does not wander
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Post by: Subramanian.R on April 13, 2012, 02:57:03 PM

And that is the only purpose it would achieve. It will not ensure eradication of vasanas permanently.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 13, 2012, 06:23:16 PM
well said sir.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 16, 2012, 10:00:26 AM
Q: When practicing nada-yoga (meditation on sound) I hear psychic sounds such as bells and echoes.

M: If you look at the system objectively, you are likely to lose yourself in them. One sound after another will come and this will lead to a state of laya (when the mind is in temporary abeyance). Remember to look at who it is that hears these sounds. If you hold onto your inner Self firmly, it will be immaterial whether you hear them or not. Keep the subject in view. Nada-yoga is certainly one of the methods of concentration, but after you have gained it, focus on the Self. If you lose sight of the subject then you will go into laya.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 17, 2012, 10:00:56 AM
A person commented that despite their focusing on the ajna chakra (between the eyebrows), they felt no progress.

M: If you focus on the seen, the seer is not kept in view; but if the seer is always remembered, all will be well.
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Post by: Beloved Abstract on April 17, 2012, 10:08:27 PM
yes , reincarnation is not really about getting a new body after this one dies
reincarnation is the telling of the story of the self over and over
since who we think we are is only a story ... the story stops being told when the body dies
who we really are never changes , never needs to be reincarnated
what is a story made of ? ... thoughts ... what are thoughts made of ? ... nothing
how could nothing be reincarnated ?    :)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 18, 2012, 10:08:19 AM
Q: Is any particular posture recommended for Europeans?

M: It is according to the mental equipment of the individual. There is no fixed rule. It must be understood clearly that postures, fixed times or other accessories are not essential for meditation practice. Asana (posture) is not necessary for the jnani's (one who is Self-realized) course. He can practice in any place or posture. Abidance in God is the only true asana.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on April 18, 2012, 03:08:49 PM
Dear prasanth,

Once when a Western lady could not sit with legs crossed, she was stretching her legs and sitting. The attendant came and
told her to sit cross legged. Sri Bhagavan also sat cross legged in spite of rheumatic pain.  The attendant started.. 'Why should
you Bhagavan..' Sri Bhagavan said: What applies to that lady, applies to me also.

Then the Western lady was told to sit as she had pleased.

No rule in Old Hall. No rule in Sri Bhagavan's Presence. Once some one asked Bhagavan: What is your sampradayam here?
One devotee quickly retorted : To be without sampradayam is our sampradayam!

People have even been sleeping in Old Hall. Dogs used to sit silently. Monkeys would come to collect plantains. Squirrels
would cut to collect their quota  of cashew nuts.

Arunachala Siva. 
   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 18, 2012, 03:11:31 PM
yes sir this one quality makes me be proud to say that i am devotee of guru ramana.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 19, 2012, 10:36:37 AM
Chakras and Kundalini

Q: What of chakras?

M: In yogic practice, one starts with the lowest chakra, goes down, and then rises up, wanders all through, until the brain center or the thousand-petaled lotus (sahasrara) is gained. By jnana practice one settles down in the Heart-center directly. The heart chakra of the yogis, called anahata, is not the same as this Heart. If it were, why would they progress further onto sahasrara? Moreover, the question arises because of the sense of separateness; but we are never away from that center! Before reaching anahata, or after passing it, one is still only in the center. Whether one understands this or not, one is never away from the center.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on April 19, 2012, 06:13:47 PM

Chakaras etc., are dependent on the yogi's practice which are mental. Whereas the Heart, or the Self can be realized by
self attention. In atma vichara, there is no mental exercise, but only sraddha is needed. See Devi Kalottaram verses for
detailed description.

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 20, 2012, 06:11:49 AM
Atman alone is to be realized. Its realization holds all else in its compass. Shakti, siddhis etc, are all included in it. Those who speak of these have not realized the Atman. Atman is in the Heart and is the Heart itself. The manifestation is in the brain. The passage from heart to brain might be to be through sushumna. Yogis say the current rises up to the sahasrara and ends there. That experience is not complete. For jnana (Self-realization)they must come to the Heart. The Heart is the alpha and the omega.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 23, 2012, 01:06:22 AM
Q: The six chakras (yoga centers) are mentioned. The jiva (individual) is said to reside in the heart; is that true?

M: You need not take the Heart to be the physical organ -- that is not important. We are not concerned with anything less than the Self. About that we are certain, no doubts or discussions. The chakras are for concentration purposes and are interpreted symbolically. The current of kundalini (primal conscious energy) is ourselves.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 24, 2012, 10:07:30 AM
Q: The kundalini (primal conscious energy) is said to rise from the base of the spine.

M: That current is ourselves.

Mind is the real kundalini. The representation of kundalini as a serpent is merely to assist duller minds. The forms of representation of the chakras (energy centers) are also illusory.

The illumination is experienced in the right side of the chest, in the Heart, when the Self is realized. Kundalini and chakras exist for those who practice that path of yoga, but not for those who practice Self-Inquiry.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 25, 2012, 09:58:55 AM
Beyond Yoga

Miracles, clairvoyance, clairaudience -- what are these? They are sidetracks. The realized person is above them. The greatest miracle is to realize the Self! Some people describe hundreds of former lives seen by clairvoyance, but what use is it? Does it help them or others to know the Self? What are these lives but body-births? The true birth is in the Self. Even if you could be in England now (astrally), would it make you any better off? You would not be a bit nearer realization.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 26, 2012, 01:19:04 AM
What good will siddhis (occult powers) do? Suppose you exercise all these wonderful powers? You experience one desire and try to fulfill it, and when a fresh desire breaks out, you expend your energy and attention on that. Isn't the net result merely worry caused to the turbulent mind? If happiness is your real goal and aim, you must ultimately come back from your diversion with siddhis, and try to find yourself by inquiring who it is that wants the happiness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 27, 2012, 06:52:46 AM
Some jnanis (those who have realized the Self) may develop siddhis (occult powers) such as invisibility. They are equal to Siva and can even grant boons, but no powers can equal Self-realization. People are not content with their idea of jnana (knowledge) and want siddhis as well. They only look at the body. They are likely to neglect the supreme happiness of jnana and get sidetracked and lost on the way, instead of following the royal path. Jnana is everything; a jnani will not waste any thought on the occult powers.
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Post by: sanjaya_ganesh on April 27, 2012, 07:09:51 AM
Quote
Some jnanis (those who have realized the Self) may develop siddhis (occult powers) such as invisibility

My understanding from the great ones teachings (specifically Narayana Guru Swami) is that these Sidhis are the road blocks which come on the way to self realization. They happen much before self realization while on the route to realization. An example is Chang dev and Muktha Bai / Jnaneshwar story. And once realized, they never even think of it of show it off :)


Peace,
Sanjay
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Post by: Subramanian.R on April 27, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Dear sanjaya,

Getting siddhic powers BEFORE REALIZATION, will divert one attention. But AFTER REALIZATION, one may or may not get siddhis,
It is like a King being accompanied by ministers sometimes in procession,.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 30, 2012, 02:15:31 PM
The Maharshi is unvarying in his attitude towards psychic visions. Even when his disciples report that his own picture has appeared to them, transfigured in brilliant light, he counsels them to put aside all "form" and to remember that what is thus seen is perishable; what has an origin must have an end; it is the intuitive perception of the Self that must be seized.

A devotee claimed he had gone to Mathura and seen Krishna in a vision. The Maharshi responded:

M: The seer, the seen and the seeing were all one, all within yourself. Nobody else saw it. It was your own fancy, and yet it is also true that you really did see it.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on April 30, 2012, 03:14:51 PM
Yes. Sri Bhagavan never approved of any Visions. He has said once: visions at best may increase your devotion to the god
or guru whom you had seen vision. That is all.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 01, 2012, 01:53:07 AM
Q: Is it not good to acquire occult powers such as telepathy?

M: Occult powers are only in the realm of the mind. Concerning telepathy, what is the difference between hearing from far away or nearby? There can be no telepathy without a receiver, and no clairvoyance without a seer. That is what matters. Both telepathy and the radio enable one to see and hear from far away. The hearing and the seeing are the same. Whether one hears from near or far does not make any difference to the one who hears. The fundamental factor is the hearer, the subject. Without the hearer or seer there can be no hearing or seeing. The latter are both functions of the mind. The occult powers are only of the mind, they are not natural to the Self. That which is not natural, but acquired, cannot be permanent, and it is not worth trying for.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 03, 2012, 12:28:37 AM
Q: Is it not good to acquire occult powers such as telepathy? (cont'd)

M: When someone who has these limited [occult] powers is miserable, he wants to expand them, thinking he will gain happiness this way. But is that really the case? If he is miserable with limited perceptions, the misery must increase in proportion to the expanded perceptions. Occult powers will not bring happiness to anyone, but will make one all the more miserable. In any case, what are they for? To make other people praise ones ego! God, the Self, is the highest power and worth seeking the most. That which results in peace is the highest power.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 04, 2012, 01:40:46 AM
Dandepani Swami related a vivid dream he had had in which the Maharshi appeared and answered certain questions for him.

M: You were anxious to know these answers and it was your own Self which supplied them to you. I have no knowledge of having visited you.

Q: There are beautiful colors in meditation, which are a pleasure to watch. We can see God in them.

M: They are all mental concepts. All experiences in meditation--objects, feelings, or thoughts--are all only mental concepts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 04, 2012, 01:42:19 AM
Q: Can we not see God in concrete visions?

M: Yes, the concrete form may be seen, but it is still in the devotees own mind. The form and appearance of the God manifestation are determined by the mentality of the devotee, but this has the sense of duality and is not the finality. It is like a dream vision. After God is perceived, vichara (inquiry) commences and ends in the realization of the Self. Vichara is the final method.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 07, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
Q: Didnt Paul Brunton see you in London? Or, was it only a dream?

M: Yes, he had a vision. Nevertheless he saw me in his own mind.

Q: But didnt he see this concrete form?

M: Yes, but it was still in his mind.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on May 07, 2012, 07:41:28 PM
Dear prasanth,

All visions are only in the mind. The only benefit of visions is it strengthens the devotion to the god or guru seen in vision.
Visions by themselves would not confer Atma Jnanam. Once some devotee asked Sri Bhagavan: Bhagavan! What will you
feel if Siva comes before you? Sri Bhagavan said: I shall tell Him not to have the business of coming and going. You will
come and I will be happy. You will go away and I will cry. Please stay in my Heart eternally.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 08, 2012, 10:52:44 AM
The Maharshi gave an explanation of the experience of the "blazing light" referred to in the last chapter of "A Search in Secret India," by Paul Brunton.

M: It is said that during their exercises, yogis experience several lights and colors, before they actually realize the Self. Once upon a time, Parvati (Sivas consort) did penance to attain the Eternal. She saw certain lights. As they were all felt and seen by her senses, she concluded that those lights did not constitute the Eternal. After a long penance, she saw a very powerful light. She came to the same conclusion that this light also did not constitute the Eternal. Then, after severe penance, she attained peace and concluded that the Self is the Eternal. The existence of things is seen only through light. Then how can it be wrong to say that it is by that light that one realizes the Self? The knowledge of realizing ones Self is that light. During nirvikalpa samadhi (the trance of pure consciousness) it exists as the knowledge by which one sees both the light seen in samadhi (absorption in the Self) and also that which is beyond that light. It is not ignorance; how then can it be said that it is not light?
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Post by: Beloved Abstract on May 08, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
yes , even who you think you are is in the mind
the one you think is searching for truth is only in the mind
simply stop searching and see what truth you have been overlooking that is already here
 :)
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Post by: Nagaraj on May 08, 2012, 07:38:50 PM
i remember a very nice quote, in this context -

You are not one person, but three: The one you think you are; The one others think you are; The one you really are.

(satya sai baba)

Salutations to Bhagavan

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 09, 2012, 01:49:28 PM
nice quote nagaraj garu.

Q: Do visions and the hearing of mystic sounds come before or after the concentrated mind is still?

M: They can come both before and after. The thing is to ignore them and to pay attention only to the Self. The sights and sounds which may appear during meditation should be regarded as distractions and temptations. None of them should be allowed to beguile the aspirant. Visions add zest to meditation but do nothing more.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 10, 2012, 10:56:25 AM
Sundaresa 1yer, a local teacher, described some recent yogic experiences, including visions of light and the ringing of bells.

M: They come and they will pass away. Be only the witness. I myself had thousands of such experiences, but I had no one to go to and consult about them.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 11, 2012, 03:31:25 PM
Q: Through poetry or music, one sometimes experiences a sense of deep bliss. Will practice of this lead to a deeper samadhi (absorption in the Self) and ultimately to a full vision of the Real?

M: There is happiness at agreeable sights. It is the happiness inherent in the Self. That happiness is not alien or distant. On those occasions, which you consider pleasurable, you are diving into the pure Self. That diving results in Self-existent bliss, but it is the association of ideas that is responsible for foisting this bliss on other things or happenings. In fact, it is within you. On these occasions you are plunging into the Self, albeit unconsciously. If you do so consciously, you call it realization. I want you to dive consciously into the Self, i.e. into the Heart.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on May 12, 2012, 12:20:31 PM
Dear prasanth,

Nochur Venkatraraman says: Even so much indulgence in music, art-forms like dancing, reading innumerable books, debating,
arguing, -- all these will divert our mind from the purpose of real sadhana, that is attaining salvation at Sri Bhagavan's golden
feet.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 14, 2012, 10:48:49 AM
Q: St. Theresa (of Liseaux 1873-1897) and others saw the image of the Madonna come to life. That was external. Others see the image of their devotion in their minds eye. This is internal. Is there any difference in degree between the two?

M: Both are good and indicate that the person has strongly developed in meditation. There is no difference in degree -- one has the concept of divinity and draws mental images and feels them; the other has the concept of divinity in the image and feels it in the image. The feeling is within, in both instances.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 15, 2012, 03:47:27 AM
Q: In St. Theresas case, she was devoted to a figure of the Madonna which she saw come to life, and was then in bliss.

M: The animated figure prepared the mind for introversion. There is a process of concentration on ones shadow, which eventually becomes animated and answers questions put to it.

That is due to manobala (power of mind) or dhyanabala (power of meditation). Whatever is external, is also transitory. Such phenomena may produce joy temporarily, but abiding peace does not result. This is achieved only by the removal of avidya (ignorance).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 16, 2012, 01:24:27 PM
Q: Why does the peace which I feel in your presence not endure after I go?

M: These flashes are only signs of the enduring revelation of the Self. That peace is your real nature. Contrary ideas are only superimpositions. This is true yoga. You may say, however, that this peace is acquired by practice, but it is wrong notions that are to be given up by practice.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on May 16, 2012, 02:33:27 PM
Dear prasanth,

Permanent abidance in the Self by staying in Sri Bhagavan's Presence continuously is achieved.  Visiting Him or His Presence
intermittently does not help permanent abidance in the Self., You can observe from the lives of Sri Bhagavan's devotees,
that those who stayed with Him permanently and enjoyed the Bliss till their own life's end, had more benefit than people
who came and went away and then came again.

Eg. Permanent stay: Chadwick, Kunju Swami, S.S. Cohen, Viswantha Swami etc.,

Eg for second category: G.V. Subbaramaiah,  Devaraja Mudaliar etc.,

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 16, 2012, 05:58:11 PM
yes but atleast 2nd category people are better than 3rd category who are not bothered for any kind of spiritual actitivies..

maybe 2nd category people with bhagavan's grace can get promoted to 1st category in next life?

as gita says our sadhana will never get wasted and will surely be carried forward..
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Post by: Subramanian.R on May 16, 2012, 06:19:10 PM
Dear prasanth,

I agree with you. The merits are carried over to the next birth.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 16, 2012, 11:31:35 PM
The Maharshi asked his attendant for a small notebook, but the latter could not find a suitable one. A couple of days later, Mr. Nambiar, a local government engineer, visited the Ashram and produced a fine notebook saying, "Maharshi appeared to me in a dream and asked for a notebook of this size, so I have brought one." The Maharshi took it with a smile. Later, he used it to write a Malayalam translation of Rama Gita, which was printed by Nambiar at his own cost.

M: People run the course of their samskaras (mental impressions). When taught that they are the Self, the teaching affects the mind and the imagination runs riot. Their occult experiences are only according to their imagination of the state, "I am the Self." But when a person is ripe, and the mind is about to be sunk into the Heart, the instruction given works in a flash and the person realizes the Self, otherwise there is struggle.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 18, 2012, 02:07:55 PM
Occultism, theosophy and so on are circuitous routes to the same goal. Ultimately their followers will arrive at the Self, though their leaders do not teach the meditation on the Self. Meditation on the Self is the quickest, most direct and right route to realization. The Upanishads declare, "That which sees not, hears not, thinks not, that is the Infinite." Those who listen for sounds or meditate on the sound of Aum, are meditating on hearing something, when the Infinite itself cannot be heard. It is the same with those occult groups that are developing psychic visions, clairvoyance, chakra-centers (energy-centers in the body), etc. They are trying to see forms, when the Reality is not to be seen. They are making for the same goal, but they are wandering around to get there. In vichara (inquiry into the true Self) there is no attempt to see or hear the Real, but only to realize it. The meditation on the Self is the straight, short and direct path, which does not concern itself with planes and degrees.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 21, 2012, 01:54:50 PM
Just as in a school there are different classes, lower grades and higher grades, so these occult, psychic and mantric systems represent lower grades. The highest class in the school of life is that devoted to vichara, (inquiry into the true Self). This is practically the same as jnana yoga (knowledge of Self). It is a matter of maturity.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 22, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
The main object or central teaching of systems like the Vedas is that Brahman is real and that the world and all other things are unreal. But all sorts of aspirants have to be appealed to, the dull and the sharp alike. To enable the dull to follow the central teaching, a graded cosmogony is given: Brahman begetting prakriti, (nature) followed by mahat-tattvam (the projected light of the Absolute Consciousness manifesting as ego) and then the tanmatras (the subtle basic qualities of the five elements [sight, smell, etc.]), the elements, the world and the body in succession. To the sharp intelligence of other aspirants the Vedas say that it is by the clouding of the Self by avarana, or a covering of ignorance, that this dream-like illusory or phenomenal world appears. In reality the Self is not covered. It only appears to be covered to the eye of those who believe that they are the body.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 23, 2012, 01:51:14 PM
The theory of evolution, the philosophies of planes and degrees, the systems of spirit descending into matter and evolving back, the idea of the self developing towards perfection -- all these things are for spiritually uncultured, materially-minded people, but for the advanced, these thoughts are discarded. The former keep the mind tied to form and object, which are false from the highest standpoint. Similarly, theosophy talks of evolving selves. How can that be? The true Self is infinite, formless, beyond time and hence beyond evolution, it cannot grow to perfection because it is already perfect, free, boundless. But theosophy and such systems may be useful in the beginning for those who think "I am the body," or "I am this person." Other minds do not need them.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 24, 2012, 01:16:40 PM
Forms which interfere with the main current of meditation should not be allowed to distract the mind. Bring yourself back into the Self, the witness, unconcerned with such distractions. This is the only way to deal with such interruptions. Never forget yourself. Psychic and occult teachings are kindergarten. They are half-truths. Realize the whole Truth that you are free now, and be free!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 25, 2012, 01:19:51 PM
The intellect is the astral body, and is only an aggregate of certain factors. What else is the astral body? In fact, without intellect no kosha (sheath enshrining the soul) is cognized. Who says that there are five koshas? Is it not the intellect itself?
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Post by: eranilkumarsinha on May 26, 2012, 08:35:32 AM
Dear Devotees,

What is that Silence which is beyond talking and non-talking? It is not the negation of speech but the Pure Awareness, Absolute Consciousness, which is the Source of all sound.

Lord Sri Arunachala is the Embodiment of the Stillness of Awareness and Sri Bhagwan embodied the same Principle. Like Sri Arunachala, He also was ‘Achala’ who never moved away from It, from the day He arrived in His sixteenth year till He merged in 1950. As the Sacred Hill is rooted in the Silence of the Pure Awareness, so is Sri Bhagwan rooted in the Silence of the Self. The Hill draws devotees to Itself, Sri Bhawan also draws devotees to Himself. He drew devotees in His life-time and they are being drawn to Him and the Sacred Hill even now when He is not physically present.

It is well known that Sri Bhagwan appealed to humanity at large through His potent Silence. Yes, that Silence, like the Silence of the Sacred Hill, is more potent than the eloquence of the preachers galore. It brought and still brings about silence of the devotees’ mind. THERFORE, SRI BHAGWAN’S SILENCE IS THE PURE CONSCIOUSNESS OR AWARENESS WHICH IS THE SOURCE OF ALL SOUND.
Devotees go round the Hill and experience calm and peace. Although Sri Bhagwan is said to have discouraged this practice, going round Sri Bhagwan is thought to be equal to going round the Sacred Hill. AND DEVOTEES NOW GO ROUND HIS SAMADHI AND EXPERIENCE THE SAME CALM AND PEACE.

Lord Sri Arunachala brings enlightenment by ending the body illusion or the ‘dehatma budhi’.SRI BHAGWAN TOO BRINGS ENLIGHTENMENT BY ENDING THE ILLUSION THAT THE BODY IS ONESELF.

Sri Arunachala is Lord Shiva embodied. SRI BHAGWAN IS SHIVANANDA EMBODIED.

DO WE NOT EXPERIENCE HIS PRESENCE AS WE SIT IN HIS ASHRAM OR WALK ROUND THE SACRED HILL OR WHEN WE INVOKE HIS PRESENCE WHEREEVER WE ARE ?   


Thank you,
  Anil
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 28, 2012, 01:56:33 AM
There is no time sequence in true spiritual development. You are spiritual here and now. Do not trap yourself in mental cages of planes of existence, degrees of growth, states of being, etc. Do not embrace these false limitations. You are the spiritual Self. Be That.
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Post by: ramanaduli on May 28, 2012, 05:15:25 PM
Dear sir,

Sometimes the ego may over lap us and lazy. At least in beginning we should bow to our guru.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramanaduli on May 28, 2012, 05:28:48 PM
Dear Udai ji,


Thanks for explaining. I thought, bowing to guru or god, seems I am nothing in front of you. Everything is yours grace.  We are all one but at the same time we cannot act as our guru.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 28, 2012, 09:10:57 PM
:) Dear Prashant,

one should always bow to one's guru. but not with an attitude that iam less u r greater. but rather, with an attitude that thanks for making me understand i am u and u r me!


very well said and i completly agree with you. you are always very clear in terms of understanding the truth :)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 29, 2012, 01:41:53 PM
What is meditation? It is to think about one thing (only). Therefore, in meditation try to hold onto one thought, and all the other thoughts will gradually go away. They may be present for some time, but if you resolutely hold on to your single thought, they will not trouble you. Our minds are weak through habit, unable to concentrate. We must make the mind strong so as to keep to one thought.
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Post by: swayam on May 29, 2012, 06:02:33 PM
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

This does not in any way stop one from bowing to guru. one should always bow to one's guru. but not with an attitude that iam less u r greater. but rather, with an attitude that thanks for making me understand i am u and u r me!

I think initially one should have the attitude of you are great , iam less. This  makes a seeker to look upto guru with a sense of awe and this sense of awe(attraction) is the one which binds and helps a seeker in keeping the general raaga and dwesha away.
To cultivate this sense of awe and sustain it through out is achieved by repeated reading of the life histories of mahatmas which contain their teachings and leelas.

Once you are established in the above stage and one will be achieving the maturity of
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attitude that thanks for making me understand i am u and u r me!

Right from the day one, one will not have this attitude or maturity, isnt it ?

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 30, 2012, 01:10:15 PM
Q: Is there a time of day which is better for meditation?

M: Yes, meditation in the early morning upon arising is the best time because the mind is then free of thoughts, cares and worries.

But all these rules regarding hours of meditation etc, are only for beginners. There will come a time when you will say, "I have given up meditation," because then you will have realized that the idea implies duality: the person who meditates, and the object of meditation; you will perceive the standpoint of the true Self which does not need to meditate.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 30, 2012, 02:34:01 PM
yes well said sir.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 31, 2012, 11:22:11 AM
Q: What about practicing in a group or alone?

M: The latter is advisable for beginners, but we must learn to advance to the point where we create our own mental solitude, then it will not matter where we are. We must learn to find solitude (mentally) in the midst of society; we should not give up our meditation because we are among people, but carry it on even then. Just do not be ostentatious about it -- do it secretly. Do not make an exhibition of the fact that you are meditating.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 01, 2012, 01:26:01 PM
Q: It is said that the yogi should sit on a deerskin, as this prevents the loss of magnetism during meditation.

M: It is not necessary. The earth will not rob you of the effects of your meditation because you do not happen to use a deerskin.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 01, 2012, 01:51:40 PM
Dear prasanth,

Talking about deer-skin or rather tiger's-skin one Western devotee asked Sri Bhagavan, 'Is it true that sitting on such skins would
help meditation?  Sri Bhagavan replied: Not necessarily. Then the Western devotee started talking about killing tigers and other
animals in India, (those days such hunting and killing were not banned). Then he repeated the question: Why are you then sitting
on a tiger skin?  Sri Bhagavan replied: I  AM SITTING ON THE TRUTH!.

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 01, 2012, 01:57:47 PM
well said sir.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 04, 2012, 01:45:50 AM
Q: How can we overcome discomforts of the body, such as mosquito bites, when sitting for meditation?

M: You wish to gain concentration? Then never mind what happens to the body. Maintain the same train of thought and effort, and the bodily discomfort will pass away. Do not think of the discomfort but keep the mind firm on your meditation. If you are not strong enough to endure the mosquitoes, how can you hope to gain realization? It is like waiting for the waves of the ocean to subside before you enter to bathe! Be strong and keep up constant effort.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 04, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
Dear prasanth,

A related conversation of a devotee had with Sri Bhagavan is as follows:

Devotee: If a mosquito bites me, should I swat it or ignore it?

Maharshi: Just because you swat it, you will not get moksha. Or because you swat it you will go to hell.
                If you are in true meditation, you shall not notice the mosquito either biting or simply sitting on your elbow!

Arunachala Siva.
 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 04, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
yes sir, bhagavan proved this when he was staying in patala lingam
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 05, 2012, 01:58:26 AM
Q: How are lust and anger to be overcome?

M: By dhyana (meditation); by the holding onto a single thought and discarding all other thoughts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 06, 2012, 01:33:37 AM
One obstacle to be overcome in meditation is laya (temporary stillness). Hence the teacher who gave out the Bhagavad Gita said, "Practice moderation in sleep." Fakirs who tried to do without sleep altogether went to unnecessary ascetic extremes. Excessive sleep may be caused by over-eating or overexertion, so moderate these things too. Deep sleep is not possible in daytime, as the sun's rays have a peculiar effect that prevents it; so if you doze in the daytime it is very easy to turn that into meditation, as it is close to it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 07, 2012, 09:39:16 PM
With regard to sleep, the moment you wake up, be alert and begin to think of God (Self). Stay alert throughout the day, i.e. practice the presence of God. The second obstacle to meditation is the mind turning to external objects. When that is overcome, a further obstacle is forgetting that one is there to practice meditation. Then the fourth obstacle arises: the mind working internally.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 08, 2012, 08:01:47 PM
If it is difficult to control the mind, use the breath, or have satsang (association with the wise) when the mind will come under control spontaneously. Such is the greatness of satsang.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 11, 2012, 01:31:37 AM
Q: What path do you advise? We need your grace.

M: Be still, do not think, and know that I AM.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 12, 2012, 11:51:29 AM
Q: Should I meditate with the eyes open or closed?

M: You can meditate with the eyes open or shut, whichever suits you best. It differs with different people. Seeing is when the mind looks through the eyes, but if it is not looking because it is focused within, it does not see even if the eyes are open. It is the same with sounds. If you pay attention to them, you will hear them, but if you persistently focus only on the Self within, you won't hear them.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 13, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
Q: Should I meditate with the eyes open or closed?(cont'd)

M: The point is that the mind must be introverted and kept active in its pursuit. Sometimes when the eyes are closed, latent thoughts rush forth with great vigor. It may also be difficult to introvert the mind with the eyes open, as that requires strength of mind. When the mind takes in objects it is contaminated. The main factor is to resist all other thoughts and keep the mind on its own pursuit, without taking in external impressions or thinking of other matters.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 13, 2012, 12:43:18 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes.  This is precisely what Sri Bhagavan told Annamalai Swami.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 14, 2012, 01:28:34 AM
Q: What if one meditates incessantly without any action?

M: Try it and see! Your predispositions will not let you do it. Dhyana (meditation) comes only progressively with the gradual weakening of vasanas (inherent tendencies) by the guru's grace.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 15, 2012, 11:18:39 AM
Q: Which posture is best?

M: Any posture, possibly sukha asana (comfortable or half-lotus posture). But posture is immaterial for the jnana (Self-knowledge) path. Posture really means steadfast location in the Self. It is internal.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 18, 2012, 11:28:09 AM
Q: Which posture is best? (cont'd)

There are different postures according to the different grades. The best posture is to be in the Self. All these questions of posture and hatha yoga arise only to those who have body-consciousness and think, "I am the body." However, the yogis say, "Adopt that posture in which meditation is easiest for you." But you may not necessarily have to adopt a yoga posture at all. If you find sitting in a chair or walking easier for you to practice meditation, then these are the right postures for you. Hatha yoga is for beginners. Find the Self and remain in it, and you will not be concerned about postures.

The best posture is to plant the guru firmly in your Heart.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 19, 2012, 01:44:24 AM
Q: What time is most suitable for meditation?

M: What is time? It is only an idea. However you think of it, so it will appear. If you call it time, it is time. If you call it existence it is existence, and so on. Time is immaterial for the jnana path (path of Knowledge), though certain times are good for beginners.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 20, 2012, 01:55:02 AM
Q: Is meditation analytical or synthetical?

M: Analysis and synthesis are in the region of intellect. The Self transcends the intellect.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 20, 2012, 02:19:10 PM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan says in Talks No. 344:

The mind is only a mixture of knowledge and ignorance or the sleep and waking. It functions are as five fold.

1. kshipta - active

2. moodha - dull

3. vikshitpa - distracted

4.  kashaya - latent

5. ekagrya - one pointed.

The question of the devotee whether the meditation is analytical  or synthetical, comes under vikshitpa.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 21, 2012, 11:17:27 AM
well said subramanian garu. Anyways gita gives beautiful explanation regarding 3 gunas (satva,rajo,tamo).

Ch14 Text 5

Material nature consists of the three modes--goodness, passion and ignorance. When the living entity comes in contact with nature, he becomes conditioned by these modes.


Q: When is mouna (silence) necessary?

M: It is only an aid to realization. Once realization is complete, it can be cast aside as it will be of no further use. Realization is itself mouna. Speech is regarded by mounis (those who maintains silence) as a waste of the energy, which they are directing inwards towards the Self.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 21, 2012, 11:34:44 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Atma Jnanam is itself mounam, Silence and Sri Bhagavan says this in Atma Vidya Kirtanam, Verse 2.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 22, 2012, 11:28:27 AM
Q: When is mouna (silence) necessary? (Cont'd)

One method of securing the temporary cessation of mental activities (manolaya) is by association with sages. They are adepts in samadhi (absorption in Self) and it has become easy, natural and perpetual with them. Those moving closely with them and in sympathetic contact gradually absorb the samadhi habit from them.
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Post by: swayam on June 22, 2012, 10:00:15 PM
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Mouni = one who does not find anyone other than himself to talk to

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 25, 2012, 01:41:48 AM
A yogi used to sit as steady as a rock, with eyes closed, for a couple hours at a time. The Maharshi spoke to him.

M: Do you really want to learn meditation? Mere posture is not enough, what matters is where your mind is! So learn from that young man over there. (He pointed to a young graduate who had been unemployed for nearly a year, and was now haunting the Ashram constantly). He sits there with eyes closed too, but his whole mind is centered on obtaining employment. He prays continually in the silence to me, to give him a job. But where can I give people jobs?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 26, 2012, 11:20:19 AM
One day a group of musicians came to play for the Maharshi. The instruments included flute, violin and harmonium. Afterwards there was a discussion about the various instruments and which was the most pleasing. The Maharshi said that he himself listened to nothing but the harmonium as its steady, monotonous, one-pointed rhythm helped to keep one centered in the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 27, 2012, 01:50:12 AM
Q: What is the significance of the spot between the eyebrows?

M: It is a reminder not to see with our eyes. The mind functions both as light and objects; if divested of objects the light alone will remain.

Q: But must we know that there is such light?

M: Sight or cognition pertains to the present state because there is light. Light is the essential requisite for sight. It is plain in our daily life. Among the lights, the sunlight is the most important. Hence they speak of the glory of millions of suns.
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Post by: ramanaduli on June 27, 2012, 10:24:45 AM
Dear sir,

To see the objects in the darkness we need light and in the day, with the help of sun we can see things. We can see the objects with the help of outer light. But inside of our body, we can feel pain and pleasure with the help of some light. The inner light only says, "I do not know this matter and I know this matter". Is not it? It is in built in our system. Every one has this inner light. They say, it is knowledge i.e. gynanam. For this gynanam there must be basic which must be ever. Bhagavan says it is KANNUKKU KANNAI, ARIVIKKU ARIVAI. So that everlasting light or knowledge is every where and all are having.

ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 28, 2012, 10:59:20 AM
Q: I cannot go within sufficiently deeply.

M: It is wrong to say that. Where are you now, if not in the Self? Where can you go? All that is necessary is the stern belief that you are the Self. It is better to say that the other activities throw a veil over you.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 29, 2012, 01:52:26 AM
Q: People taking up meditation are said to be prone to illness. At any rate, I feel some pain. They say it is a test of God. Is this true?

M: There is no Bhagavan outside you and no test is therefore instituted. What you believe to be a test or a new disease as a result of spiritual practices is really the strain that is now put on your nerves and the five senses. The mind, which was hitherto operating through the nadis (a channel through which energy flows) in order to sense external objects, and had thus maintained a link between itself and the organs of perception etc., is now required to withdraw from the link. This action of withdrawal may naturally cause strain, a sprain attendant with pain. If you continue your meditation, your one thought being on understanding yourself or Self-realization, all these will go. There is no greater remedy than this continuous yoga or union with God or Atman.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on June 29, 2012, 07:59:15 PM
Dear prasanth,

This is one of the beautiful explanations of Sri Bhagavan from Talks.

We do not feel strain in our office work. We do not feel strain in our carrying our little children on our shoulders.
We do not feel strain in walking and other sports activities. But only in meditation, we feel all strain. This is one way,
the mind's trick to avoid meditation, so that it can play with us.

Arunachala Siva.       
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 02, 2012, 11:40:22 AM
Q: How should we meditate?

M: All you need learn is just to close your eyes and turn inwards.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 02, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
Dear prasanth,

It is a beautiful answer. Sri Bhagavan simply says: Close your eyes and turn the mind inwards.  The inward turning of the
mind is very difficult. The inward turned mind, if it is successful, would become quiescent and merge with the Light that is
Brahman. Sri Bhagavan did not say what will you experience with inward turned mind. It all depends on one's own efforts.

Sri Bhagavan says this succinctly in two verses in AAMM:

43, Reveal naturally by Yourself, O Arunachala, that each one is himself, the real Self.

44. How is it, O Arunachala, you told me 'Turn and look within and ever seek the Self with the inner eye and you
     will see It?

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 03, 2012, 01:21:40 AM
yes bhagavan is apt and straight forward with his answers.

he often said people want complex routes to achieve realisation and turn blind eye when said about simple and straight forward ones.  :)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 03, 2012, 10:27:38 AM
Q: Why are there so many methods of practice mentioned? For instance, Sri Ramakrishna says that bhakti (devotion) is the best means for gaining mukti. (liberation).

M: It depends on the aspirant. Krishna begins by saying (Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 2, 12), "Never was there a time when I did not exist nor thou nor these kings of men. Never will there be a time hereafter when any of us shall cease to be. Because that which is unreal never exists. The unreal never is, the Real never is not. All that ever was, even now is and will ever be." Later on Krishna continued (Chapter 4, 1), "1 taught this truth to Vivasvan, he taught it to Manu etc." Arjuna asked, "How can it be? You were born a few years ago. They lived ages ago." Then Krishna, understanding Arjuna's standpoint, answered (Chapter 4,4), "Many a birth have I passed through, Oh Arjuna and so hast thou. I know them all, but thou knowest not thine. I'll tell you what happened in those past births." Look, that Krishna who began by saying there was not 1, nor wert thou, nor these kings, says now that he had several births before. But Krishna is not contradicting himself, although it appears that way. He conforms to the outlook of Arjuna and speaks to him from his level. There is a parallel passage in the Bible, in which Jesus says that he had taught the truth to Abraham and Abraham to Moses and so on. The teachings of the sages are suited to the time, place and other surroundings.

There are two ways open to us; bhaki (devotion) and jnana (knowledge of the Self). A bhakta surrenders to God and rests secure in His protection. A jnani knows that there is nothing beside the Self and so remains happy. One must adhere firmly to either of these courses.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 03, 2012, 06:23:48 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. In bhakti, the aspirant is submissive to God and in due course surrenders his ego.
In  Jnana, the aspirant surrenders or kills the ego first and then remains submissive.


Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 04, 2012, 09:01:05 AM
Q: When we fall from the path what should we do?

M: All will be well in the end. There is a steady determination that gets you on your feet again after a fall or break. Gradually the obstacles get weaker and your current gets stronger. Every-thing comes right in the end. Steady determination is what is required.
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Post by: eranilkumarsinha on July 04, 2012, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from Sri Subramanian Sir:
"In bhakti, the aspirant is submissive to God and in due course surrenders his ego.
In  Jnana, the aspirant surrenders or kills the ego first and then remains submissive."

Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

This is, in my view, a beautiful insight.
Thank you so much, sir.

Regards,
  Anil


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Post by: swayam on July 05, 2012, 08:36:14 PM
Q: When we fall from the path what should we do?

M: All will be well in the end. There is a steady determination that gets you on your feet again after a fall or break. Gradually the obstacles get weaker and your current gets stronger. Every-thing comes right in the end. Steady determination is what is required.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Leaves me with a nice feeling after I read above quote Prasanth garu. Thanks !!.
Ofcourse,its not that it gives me a license to fall,  but gives motivation to get up every time I fall

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 06, 2012, 11:23:20 AM
Q: The tendencies distract me. Can they be cast off?

M: Yes. Others have done it, so believe it can be done! They did so because they believed they could. It can be done by concentration on That which is free from predispositions and yet is their core.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 07, 2012, 01:26:41 AM
A devotee was feeling despondent.
M: The question must be put, "Who is despondent?" It is the phantom of the ego which falls prey to such thoughts. In sleep the person is not afflicted. The sleep state is the normal one. Inquire and find out. Does one not find some kind of peace in meditation? That is a sign of progress; that peace will be deeper and more prolonged with continued practice. It will also lead to the goal.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 07, 2012, 06:58:33 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. The Self is eternal and is not born nor will it die.  It is the mind which sprouts from the Self does all the mischief,
thinking about reincarnation, births and deaths.

Wolter Kiers writes: If you go and tell your grocer or baker, that you are unborn, eternal and are not going to die,
in all proababilty, the grocer or the baker will call the police to arrest me.

To understand the eternal nature of Self and remain still is Atma Jnanam.

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 09, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
Inasmuch as you say that you are ignorant, you are wise, and it makes your way easier for the removal of ignorance. Is he a mad man who says that he is mad?

The control of desire and meditation are interdependent. They must go hand in hand. Abhyasa (practice) and vairagya dispassion) bring about the result. Vairagya is to restrain the mind from projecting outwards and abhyasa is to keep it turned inward. There is a constant struggle within between control and meditation. Meditation will eventually be successful.

If you seek God with your whole heart, then you may be assured that the Grace of God is also seeking you.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 09, 2012, 02:10:19 PM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan says in Pancharatnam, karuna poorna sudhabdhe... Arunachala and Sri Bhagavan - both are ocean of Grace.
Only thing is that we should seek that Grace.

Once Devaraja Mudaliar asked Sri Bhagavan: Bhagavan! You have been telling about the Grace.  But I am not able to feel It.
Sri  Bhagavan smiled said: Oye, Grace is ever flowing.  But you (ego) do not come in the way!

Once our ego is subdued, we can feel the flow of Grace. It is a perennial flow.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 10, 2012, 11:20:45 AM
yes well said subramain garu.


Q: Is concentration one of the sadhanas (spiritual practices)?

M: Concentration is not thinking of one thing only. Rather, it is the putting off of all other thoughts, which obstruct the vision of our true nature. All our efforts are only directed towards lifting the veil of ignorance. Now it appears difficult to quell the thoughts, but in the regenerated state, it will be found more difficult to activate them! Why should we think of these things? There is the Self alone. Thoughts can function only if there are objects -- but there are no objects, so how can thoughts arise at all? Habit makes us believe that it is difficult to cease thinking. If this error were discovered, one would not be so foolish as to exert oneself unnecessarily.

Q: But the mind slips away from our control.

M: That may be so. Do not think of it. When you recollect, bring it back and turn it inward. That is enough. No one succeeds without effort. Mind control is not one's birthright. The successful few owe their success to their perseverance.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 11, 2012, 10:57:36 AM
Concentration

Q: I find concentration difficult.

M: Go on practicing. Your concentration must come as easily as the breath. Fix yourself on one thing and try to hold onto it. All will come right.

Meditation is sticking to one thought. That single thought keeps away other thoughts. The dissipated mind is a sign of its weakness. By constant meditation it gains strength, i.e. it gives up its weakness for stray thoughts.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 11, 2012, 03:56:14 PM
Dear prasanth,

Meditation on a single though to ward off other thoughts is definitely good for beginners. Although the term 'mediation'
is conventionally used for Self Inquiry, it is not meditation as the dictionary defines it. Meditation requires an object,
something to meditate on, whereas in inquiry there is only the subject. You are not looking for anything new, anything
outside yourself, but simply concentrating on being, on your self, on pure 'I am' of you. It is not thinking but suspending
thoughts while remaining consciousness.

However, Sri Bhagavan recommended the conventional meditation of a single thought or a deity, to ward off all thoughts.
He never discouraged any mantra japa or meditating on the Flame in front of one. The second one was practiced by
VaLLalAr Ramalinga Swamigal.

Arunachala Siva.   
     
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 12, 2012, 12:59:02 AM
The mind

When attention is directed towards objects and intellect, the mind is aware only of these things. That is our present state. But when we attend to the Self within, we become conscious of It alone. It is therefore all a matter of attention. Our mind has been attending to external things for so long, that the latter have enslaved it and drag it hither and thither.
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Post by: ramanaduli on July 12, 2012, 09:03:13 AM
Our attention can stay on outside objects but attending to the self it stays only few seconds.
Because it became the habit for the mind to go outside easily through five organs.


Ramanaduli

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 12, 2012, 10:57:23 AM
well said ramanaduli garu.

hence we need constant practice and determination.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 13, 2012, 01:59:24 AM
If the mind wanders, we must at once realize we are not the body and inquire, "Who am I?" and the mind must be brought back to realize the Self. Thus all evils are destroyed and happiness is realized.

Absence of mental activity is solitude.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 16, 2012, 10:56:40 AM
Q: The mind is fickle and wandering. How can I control it?

M: If you at once direct your attention to the question, "Who is the individual to whom this fickleness occurs?" the tossing of the mind to and fro will stop.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 17, 2012, 02:11:24 AM
Q: What particular steps would be helpful for control of the mind?

M: That depends on the circumstances of each individual. Bhakti (devotion), karma (action), Jnana (Knowledge of Self), and yoga are all one. You cannot love God without knowing Him, nor know Him without loving Him. Love manifests in everything you do, and that is karma. The adoption of the right mental attitude (yoga) is the necessary preliminary before you can know or love God in the proper way.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 18, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Q: I have no peace of mind.

M: Peace is our real nature. It need not be attained. Our thoughts must be obliterated. The method prescribed in the Gita is the one to do it. Whenever the mind strays, bring it back to bear on meditation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 19, 2012, 11:47:10 AM
Q: I cannot bring my mind to meditate.

M: When an elephant is free, it moves its trunk around and looks restless, but if it is given a chain to hold, its trunk stays still. Similarly, without an aim, the mind is restless. If an aim is fixed, it is restful. Concentration is impossible as long as there are samskaras (mental tendencies). Bhakti (devotion) is also obstructed. Practice and dispassion are necessary. Dispassion is the absence of diffused thoughts, and practice is concentration on one thought only. Firm perseverance is also necessary. The one is positive and the other is a negative aspect of meditation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 20, 2012, 02:14:38 AM
Q: I cannot bring my mind to meditate. (cont'd)

M: Yes, our minds are weak. The help called 'grace' is necessary -- a guru is for this only. In the presence of a strong-minded soul (guru) a weak mind comes under control more easily. That which is, is grace. There is nothing else.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 23, 2012, 10:33:43 AM
Q: But how can I control the thoughts?

M: The wavering of the mind is because of its weakness due to dissipation of its energy in the shape of thoughts. When we can get the mind to stick to one thought, the energy is conserved and the mind becomes stronger. Strength of mind is gained by practice, as the Gita points out. At first, the mind reverts to the search only at long intervals; with continued practice it reverts at shorter intervals until finally it does not wander at all. It is then that the dormant shakti (energy) manifests and the mind resolves itself into the life-current.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 24, 2012, 11:00:35 AM
Q: What is the best way to get rid of thoughts?

M: Is it the mind that tries to kill itself? How can the thief catch himself? It can't be done! So the best way is to try to realize your real nature, what you really are. When we see ourselves then there are no thoughts to be got rid of.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 24, 2012, 01:48:45 PM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan elaborated this (i.e. how to remain in one's true nature), by stating, keeping the attention of the mind in the
Self, that is, by withdrawing the mind within, one can remain  thought free. Of course this needs a long practice and effort.

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 25, 2012, 01:17:14 AM
Q: My mind is not steady in meditation.

M: Whenever it wanders, turn it inward again and again. The mind is too weak. Strengthen it by practice, by reducing the thoughts to a single one.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 26, 2012, 11:35:50 AM
Q: Why did the Self manifest as this miserable world?

M: In order that you might seek It. Your eyes cannot see themselves, but put a mirror in front of them and then, and only then, do they see themselves. Similarly with creation. See yourself first and then see the whole world as the Self.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on July 26, 2012, 02:45:22 PM
Dear prasanth,

This is again one of the finest replies of Sri Bhagavan. Why should the world manifest as the world? Unless the world is
created, human and other living beings cannot take birth. Unless they take birth, they cannot work out their way of salvation.
So the world is necessary for the purpose of any sadhana to attain deliverance. So also the body. Now what one should do?

With great dispassion, one should see the world as unreal to begin with. Develop very high dispassion and discrimination
and follow the paths of bhakti or karma or Jnana. And ultimately with great efforts and perseverance, realize the goal.
Then the world becomes real but this time as the Self. There is nothing but Self and there is only Self.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 27, 2012, 02:20:37 AM
Q: Why is it so difficult to practice meditation and to conquer the mind?

M: Because of past vasanas (tendencies), which prevent us, but we must go on trying.
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Post by: Beloved Abstract on July 27, 2012, 10:10:08 PM
practice and effort  ..... just keep practicing and exerting great effort until you are dissatisfied enough to stop.

suffering requires much effort and practice ... truth requires no effort and cannot be practiced

 :)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 30, 2012, 01:31:23 AM
Q: How is the mind to be stilled?

M: Vichara (inquiry) alone will do it. You see the body in the Heart, you see the world in it, there is nothing separate from it, so all kinds of effort are located there.

There are different routes to Tiruvannamalai but Tiruvannamalai is the same by whatever route it is reached. Similarly, the approach to the Self varies according to the personality. Yet the Self is the same.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 31, 2012, 11:21:39 AM
Q: Why can't the mind be turned inwards despite repeated attempts?

M: It is done by abhyasa (practice) and vairagya (dispassion) and succeeds only slowly. The mind has been used to going outwards for so long, it is not easily turned inwards. A cow accustomed to grazing on others' estates is not easily confined to its shed. However, its keeper tempts it with luscious grass and fine fodder. It refuses the first time; then it takes a bit, but its innate tendency to stray asserts itself and it slips away. On being repeatedly tempted by the owner, it accustoms itself to the stall. Finally, even if let loose, it would not stray. Similarly with the mind. If once it finds its happiness within, it will not stray outwards.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 01, 2012, 11:09:06 AM
Meditation and Inquiry

This (vichara [inquiry]) is the only direct method; others are meant for those who cannot take to the investigation of the Self. This path is the highest of all and is suited only for advanced aspirants. Those who follow other paths will not be ripe for this until they are advanced on their own paths. Thus it is really by grace, whether guru, Self etc., that they are brought to this highest path. Of course, they might have practiced the other paths in previous existences and thus have been born ripe for this one; others try different methods and after progressing finally turn to Self-inquiry. But the last stages of all paths are the same: surrender of the ego.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 01, 2012, 02:07:29 PM
Dear prasanth,

This is what exactly I have been posting for ramana 1359.  The Self Inquiry is no doubt a direct path but it is not an easy
path or a fastest path. It requires maturity and ripeness of the jiva.  If anyone starts without any maturity or chittasuddhi,
they can never progress. They should obtain maturity and chittasuddhi through devotion, pujas and prayers. At some time,
the Guru within will enable one to do self inquiry.

Otherwise the self inquiry without preparation and maturity will give only a theoretical knowledge and not realization.
Chitta suddhi is only to remove the vasanas and ego.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 02, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
Meditation and Inquiry (Cont'd)

This path (atma vichara [Self-inquiry]) is the direct path; all others are indirect. Atma vichara leads to the Self, the others lead elsewhere. And even if the others do arrive at the Self, it is only because they eventually arrive at the first path of vichara, which ultimately carries them to the goal. So, if in the end, the aspirant has to adopt this path, then why not do so now? Why waste time?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 03, 2012, 11:16:12 AM
Q: What is the difference between meditation and Self-inquiry?

M: Meditation is possible only if the ego is retained: there is the ego and the object meditated upon. This method is indirect. However, if we seek the ego-source, the ego disappears and what remains is the Self. This method is the direct one.

Q: (On another occasion) What is the difference between meditation and vichara (inquiry)?

M: Meditation can be upon an object, external or otherwise. Thus subject and object differ. In vichara, both subject and object are the same -- the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 06, 2012, 01:20:05 AM
Q: Why is atma vichara (Self-inquiry) necessary?

M: If you do not do atma vichara, then loka vichara (deliberation about worldly affairs) creeps in! That which is not seen is sought, but not that which is obvious. When you have found what you are looking for, inquiry also ceases and you rest in it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 07, 2012, 11:33:57 AM
Q: What is the path?

M: The method can be anything. From whatever directions the pilgrims gather, they must enter the kaaba (a holy building at Mecca containing the sacred black stone) by only one passage.

Q: People speak of different methods. Which method is the easiest?

M: The methods appear easy according to the nature of the individual. It depends upon what one has practiced before.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 08, 2012, 01:37:26 AM
Q: What is the jnana (knowledge of the Self) path?

M: Yoga is similar because both help concentrate the mind. Yoga aims at union of the individual with the Universal Reality. Yoga is itself an aid to Self-realization, the goal of all. This Reality cannot be new. It must exist even now. Therefore, jnana tries to find out how separation came about.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 09, 2012, 10:48:15 AM
Thought-life is centered around the brain, hence the ego. There it is fed by blood from the heart, hence thoughts ultimately issue from the heart. In Self-inquiry there is a neutral ground of sleep, coma, faint etc., in which mental activities do not exist, and also consciousness of Self does not prevail. The mind is to be liberated from its restlessness first, and trained to look inward habitually.

So the first step is indifference to the external world, the second, a habit of introspection. Realization of the ephemeral nature of external phenomena leads to this indifference, and thus contempt is bred for wealth, fame, pleasure etc. Then the "I"-thought must be inspected by inquiry and its source traced to the Heart.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 10, 2012, 11:13:44 AM
Objects of Meditation

Hypnotic methods are not advisable for inducing yogic samadhi (absorption in the Self) because light-gazing stupefies the mind, producing temporary catalepsy, and secures no permanent benefit.

A mental image of a deity may be used as a meditation object until the meditator merges into the Self. Then the image will fall away of its own accord and the deity will vanish as part of the world-illusion. Only the supreme Self is to be the object of meditation.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 12, 2012, 05:26:53 PM
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan sums up His teaching about Light Gazing in Talks No. 27:

Light Gazing stupefies the mind and produces catalepsy of the will for the time being, yet secures no permanent
benefit. Breath control benumbs the will for the time being only. Sound hearing produces similar results  -- unless
the mantra is sacred and secures the help of a higher power to purify and raise the thoughts.

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 13, 2012, 11:14:44 AM
Objects of Meditation (contd)

Truly speaking, meditation is remaining rigid in the Self. But when thoughts cross the mind and effort is made to eliminate them, the effort is termed "meditation."

Remain as you are. That is the aim. Meditation is negative only inasmuch as thoughts are kept away.

The practice of keeping God in your mind as everything around you, becomes dhyana (meditation). This is the stage before realization, which is only in the Self. Dhyana must precede it. Whether you practice dhyana on God or the Self is immaterial; the goal is the same.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 13, 2012, 02:59:10 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan has said in Talks: Meditation is a fight to eliminate the other thoughts with one thought.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 14, 2012, 11:16:55 AM
Q: What should we meditate on?

M: Who is the meditator? Ask that question first. Remain as the meditator, then there is no need to meditate. It is the sense of doership that is the impediment to dhyana (meditation).
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Post by: ramanaduli on August 14, 2012, 09:41:40 PM
Dear sir,

While doing any work, we have to put our mind and body. After the work is done, people may ask who has done it. At that time we have to mention  yes. it is done by me. Moreover when there is involvement it takes long time to wipe out the doership especially when it gives good recognization.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 15, 2012, 11:35:56 AM
yes well said ramadulai garu effort is needed.

Q: What is to be meditated on?

M: Anything you prefer, but you should stick to one thing. Contemplation involves fighting. As soon as you begin meditation other thoughts will crowd in, gather force and try to sink the single thought. The latter must gain strength by repeated practice. This battle always takes place in meditation. Peace of mind is brought about by contemplation and through the absence of varying thoughts. Once dhyana (meditation) is well established it cannot be given up, but will go on automatically even when you are engaged in work, play or even sleep. It must become so deep-rooted that it is natural.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 16, 2012, 11:45:19 AM
Q: I am practicing dhyana (meditation) on "aham Brahmasmi." (I am Brahman) After a few moments, a blank prevails, my brain gets heated and I get scared of dying. I want your guidance.

M: Who sees this blank? The consciousness overlooking the blank is the Self. The fear of death comes only after the thought arises. Whose death do you fear? For whom is the fear? There is the identification of the Self with the body. So long as that is there, there will be fear.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 17, 2012, 01:51:44 AM
Aham Brahmasmi (I am Brahman) is only a thought. Who says it? Brahman does not say so. What need is there for him to say it? Nor can the real "aham" (I) say so, for aham only abides as Brahman. To say so, it is only a thought. Whose thought is it? All thoughts are from the unreal, i.e. the ego. Remain without thinking. So long as there is thought, there will be fear. So long as there is thought, even of aham Brahmasmi, there will be forgetfulness.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 17, 2012, 04:11:24 PM
Dear prasanth,

That is why Sri Bhagavan interpreted Aham Brahmasmi as Brahman, that is I.  Brahmaiva aham.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 20, 2012, 01:56:32 AM
Q:   How is mouna (silence) possible when we are engaged in worldly transactions?

M:   When women walk with water pots on their heads, they are able to talk with their companions while all the time remaining intent on the water above. Similarly, when a sage engages in activities, they do not disturb him because his mind abides in Brahman.

The difficulty is that people think they are the doer; it is a mistake. It is the higher power which does everything and people are only a tool. If they accept that position, they will be free from troubles; otherwise they court them. Do your work without anticipating its fruits. That is all that you should do.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 21, 2012, 01:35:38 AM
Q:   What kind of teaching is suitable for young people -- they would not understand the naked truth?

M:    Their attention might be drawn to the truth from time to time in an appropriate way.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 22, 2012, 02:36:56 AM
Q: In my meditation, a blank appears; I see no form.

M: Of course not. Who sees the blank? You must be there. There is Consciousness witnessing the blank.

Q: Does it mean that I must go deeper and deeper?

M: Yes; there is no moment when you are not.

Q: How does it affect the subject whether the objects are seen or not?

M: If the light -- that is the cognizer or the consciousness -- is seen, there will be no object to be seen. Pure light, i.e. Consciousness, will alone remain. It is not enough that light is seen: it is also necessary to have the mind engaged in a single activity.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 23, 2012, 12:33:26 AM
Q: When we do tapas (penance), on what object should we fix our sight? Our mind is fixed on what we utter.

M: What is tapas for?

Q: It is for Self-realization.

M: Quite so. Tapas depends on the competency of the person. One needs a form to contemplate but it is not enough because who can keep looking at an image constantly? So the image must be supplemented by japa (mantra). Japa helps to fix the mind on the image. The result of these efforts is concentration of mind, which ends in the goal. One becomes what one thinks. Some are satisfied with the name of the image. Every form must have a name. That name denotes all the qualities of God. Constant japa repels all other thoughts and fixes the mind. That is tapas.

The question was asked in order to know what purpose it serves. It will take whatever form is required for the purpose of realization. Physical austerities are also tapas and are due to vairagya (dispassion).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 24, 2012, 11:28:37 AM
Q: I have seen a man who kept his arm raised throughout his life.

M: That is vairagya (dispassion).

Q: Why should one afflict the body in such a way?

M: You think it is affliction whereas for him it is a vow, which brings a sense of achievement and satisfaction.
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Post by: ramanaduli on August 24, 2012, 08:11:13 PM
There are many people who have vairagya in different things.  Does it help to go the source. "NAN yAR"

They may have thoughts is not it?

Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 24, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Dear ramanaduli,

Vairagya (dispassion) in any one particular thing will not be adequate. For example, one may not eat anything on
Ekadasi but on other days, he will be be glutton. One may not speak (mounam) on Sashti days but he will be
talking endlessly on other days. What is the use? The Real Vairagya is to keep that dispassion for world and all things
in the world. Eat what comes to your hand. Sleep where you are keeping the elbow as a pillow. Speak only when it
essential. Stay away for desirable things, including woman. This is dispassion in the highest sense.

In Karnataka and Chenai now it is quite hot. No rains. We are not able to sleep even five minutes without fan. In case
the power fails at midnight and fans stop, our sleep  is gone. This is the state where we are living. Where is Vairagya?

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramanaduli on August 24, 2012, 08:34:22 PM
Sir,

What you have said it is 100% correct.  We do not know in how many ways we are tied up. When scarcity arises then only we come to know our weakness.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 27, 2012, 01:22:53 AM
Q: Which meditation will help me?

M: Meditation on an object is not helpful. For this reason, you must learn to realize that the subject and object are one. In meditating on an object, you are destroying that sense of oneness and creating duality. Meditate only on the Self. Try to realize that the body is not you, the emotions are not you, the intellect is not you. When all these are stilled, you will find something else is there; hold onto that and it will reveal itself.

Q: But when I have stilled everything, I almost fall asleep!

M: That does not matter. Put yourself into the condition as deep as sleep, and then watch: be asleep consciously; then there is only the one Consciousness.
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Post by: ramanaduli on August 27, 2012, 08:18:56 AM
How to sleep consiously. Sleep sometimes bring dreams. Some time does not. Dreamless sleep may be a sound sleep. After waking we come to know. all these stages. How to sleep consiously. It is possible for brahma gnani.

Ramanaduli








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Post by: Subramanian.R on August 27, 2012, 02:25:07 PM
Dear prasanth, ramanaduli,

A Brahma Jnani is asleep to the world but awake to the Self for ever. This is called thoongaamal thoonguvathu.
Gita also says that when a Jnani is awake the whole world is asleep.


Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 28, 2012, 11:20:42 AM
yes well said subramaian garu.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 28, 2012, 11:22:29 AM
Japa

Japa (mantra repetition) must be done until it becomes natural. At first it requires effort; later it happens automatically. When it becomes natural, that is realization. Japa may be done even while engaged in other work. Bhakti (devotion), vichara (inquiry) and japa all finally resolve themselves into that one single Reality. They are only different tools to keep out the unreality. The unreality is an obsession at present. Reality is our true nature. We are wrongly persisting in the unreality, namely, thought and worldly activities. Cessation of these will reveal the truth. Our attempts are directed towards keeping them out. It is done by thinking of the Reality only. Although it is our true nature, it looks as if we are thinking of Reality. What we are doing really amounts to the removal of obstacles for the revelation of true Being. Meditation of vichara is thus a reversion to our true nature.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 29, 2012, 11:44:05 AM
Q: Is there any harm in my continuing japa (mantra repetition), or is it essential that I should do only the bare "Who am I?" inquiry?

M: No, you can trace the root of any thought or japa or mantra, and continue to do so until you have an answer to your question. That is a meditation which will lead you to the same goal as the "Who am I?" inquiry.

What is mental repetition if it is not meditation? Vocal japa becomes mental which is the same as meditation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 30, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
Q: Why meditate on the Heart?

M: Because you seek Consciousness. Where can you find it? Can you reach it externally? You have to find it internally. Therefore you are directed inward. Again, "Heart" is only the seat of Consciousness
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 31, 2012, 11:22:13 AM
Q: Why doesn't the mind sink into the Heart while meditating?

M: This question is asked only when a person begins to meditate and finds difficulty. Let them practice pranayama (breath control) just a little; the mind will be purified. It does not sink into the Heart now because the samskaras (mental tendencies) stand as obstacles. They are removed by pranayama or satsang (association with the wise). A floating body does not readily sink by itself. However, pranayama makes the mind quiescent, but the mind must be alive and meditation pursued unremittingly even when it is at peace, then the mind will sink into the Heart. Alternatively, the floating body could be loaded with weights and made to sink. That is how it is with satsang, when the mind will sink into the Heart. Satsang is both external and internal. The externally visible guru pushes the mind inward. He is also in the Hearts of the seekers and so he draws the inwardly turned mind into the Heart.

In fact, the mind is always in the Heart, but it is restless and moves about due to samskaras. When the samskaras are rendered ineffective, it will be at peace. Pranayama will quiet the mind only temporarily, because of the samskaras. If the mind is made atmakara (to reside in the Self), it will no longer give trouble. That is done by meditation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 03, 2012, 01:51:26 AM
Q: How do all thoughts cease, when the mind is in the Heart?

M: By force of will, and with strong faith in the Master's teaching to that effect.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 04, 2012, 11:18:49 AM
Meditation and Karma

"Be still and know that I am God." As soon as you try to obey this counsel, a regular war will start with your tendencies and ingrained natural habits.

Q: If our efforts at meditation are hindered through past karma (action) what remedy can there be?

M: It is stultifying to drown oneself in such fanciful fears. Fate and past karma relate to the external world. These will not hinder you. Dive boldly within yourself. It is the thinking of hindrances that itself forms a serious hindrance.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 05, 2012, 09:39:47 AM
Meditation and the Self

We all have to return to our source. Every human being is seeking his source and must one day come to it. We came from the Within; we have gone outward and now we must turn inward. What is meditation? It is our natural Self. We have covered ourselves over with thoughts and passions. To throw them off we must concentrate on one thought: the Self.

The Self is like a powerful magnet hidden within us. It draws us gradually to Itself, though we imagine we are going to It of our own accord. When we are near enough, It puts an end to our other activities, makes us still, and then swallows up our own personal current, thus killing our personality. It overwhelms the intellect and floods the whole being. We think we are meditating upon It and developing towards It, whereas the truth is, that we are like iron-filings and It is the Atman (Self)-magnet that is pulling us towards Itself. Thus the process of finding Self is a form of divine magnetism.
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Post by: Jewell on September 05, 2012, 05:57:07 PM
Dear Prasanth_Ramana_Maharshi, Yes it is Divine Magnetism and Divine Play. Beautiful post!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 06, 2012, 11:18:48 AM
It is necessary to practice meditation frequently and regularly until the condition induced becomes habitual and permanent throughout the day. Therefore, meditate!

You lost sight of the Bliss because your meditative attitude had not become natural and because of the recurrence of vasanas (inherent tendencies). When you become habitually reflective, the enjoyment of spiritual beatitude becomes a matter of natural experience. It is not by the single realization of "I am not the body" that the goal of Atman (Self) is reached. Do we become royalty by seeing a king once? One must constantly enter samadhi (absorption in Self) and realize one's Self, and completely blot out the old vasanas and the mind, before one becomes the Self.

If you keep to the thought of the Self, and intently watch for It, then even that one thought which is used as a focus in concentration will disappear and you will simply BE, i.e. the true Self with no "I" or ego.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 07, 2012, 11:13:19 AM
Meditation on the Self is our natural state. It is only because we find it hard that we imagine it to be an arbitrary and extraordinary state. We are all unnatural. The mind resting in the Self is its natural condition, but instead of that, our minds are resting in outward objects.

After getting rid of name and form, and dwelling on Existence-Knowledge-Bliss, be careful not to allow their re-entry to the mind.

During meditation on the Self, the thoughts actually die down of their own accord. Meditation can be directed to various objects, but when directed to the true Self, it is sent to the highest object, or rather the subject.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 10, 2012, 01:36:54 AM
Q: There is nothing to be seen in the Real.

M: Because you are accustomed to identifying yourself with the body, and sight with the eyes, you say you do not see anything. What is there to be seen? Who is there to see? How do you see? There is only one Consciousness, which manifests as the "I"-thought, identifies itself with the body, projects itself through the eyes and sees the objects around. The individual is limited in the waking state and expects to see something different. The evidence of his senses will be the seal of authority. But he will not admit that the seer, the seen and the sight are all manifestations of the same Consciousness.

Meditation helps to remove the illusion that the Self must be seen. How do you see the "I" now? Do you hold a mirror in front of yourself to know your own being? The awareness is the "I." Realize that: it is the truth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 11, 2012, 11:19:07 AM
Q: Why is it that sometimes I find concentration on the Self so easy, and at other times hopelessly difficult?

M: Because of vasanas (inherent tendencies). But really, it is easy, since we are the Self. All we have to do is to remember that. We keep on forgetting it, and thus think we are this body, or this ego. If the will and desire to remember the Self are strong enough, they will eventually overcome vasanas. There must be a great battle going on inwardly all the time until the Self is realized. This battle is symbolically spoken of in scriptural writings as the fight between God and Satan. In our texts, it is the Mahabharata, in which the asuras (demons) represent our bad thoughts and the devas (gods) our elevated ones.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 12, 2012, 11:27:03 AM
Q: How can one quicken this coming of realization?

M: As one strives to know the true "I," attachment to objects and degrading thoughts gradually drop away. The more one does not forget the Self, the more the elevating qualities can take root. Realization will come eventually.

Q: Is the thought "l am God" helpful?

M: I AM is God -- not thinking! Realize I AM and do not think "I am." Know it, don't think it! "I AM THAT I AM," means that one must abide as "I." One is always the "I" alone: nothing else.

The pet squirrel was awaiting an opportunity to run out.

M: All wish to rush out. There is no limit to going out. Happiness lies within and not without.
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Post by: Vinod on September 12, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
You must love all and help all, since only in this way can you help yourself.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi

Dear Prasanth,

I have a doubt here, I remember reading some where in this forum where a devotee raises his problem, saying that "he is very concerned about people and feels very bad about the sufferings around him" and for the same our Master replied something like "first try to know/understand your self". These are not the exact wordings but just what I remember. I am bit confused after reading this now, can u please help me with this.

OM ARUNAACHALESHWARAAYA NAMAHA!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 13, 2012, 12:12:36 AM
vinod garu,

bhagavan's replies sometimes look contradictive but many times he pledged that his replies sometimes depended on the capacity and maturity of the questioner.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 13, 2012, 11:02:19 AM
Samadhi

The final obstacle to meditation is ecstasy; when you feel great bliss and happiness, the tendency is to stay in that ecstasy. Do not yield to this but pass onto the sixth stage, which is great calm. The calm is higher than ecstasy and it merges into samadhi (absorption in Self). Successful samadhi causes a waking sleep state to encompass you, when you are always Consciousness, for Consciousness is your nature. Hence a person is always in samadhi, only he does not know it. All one has to do is to remove the obstacles I have just mentioned.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 14, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
Q: Are there thoughts in samadhi (absorption in Self) or not?

M: There will only be the feeling "I am" and no other thoughts.

Q: Isn't "I am" a thought?

M: The egoless "I AM" is not a thought. It is realization. Mental quietude is easier to attain, and comes sooner, but the ultimate goal is mental destruction. Most paths lead to mental quietness, whereas Self-Inquiry gets there quickly and leads on to the destruction of mind. Find where the mind takes its rise, or who is mentally quiet, and you will succeed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 17, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
Q: Is there a difference between internal and external samadhi (absorption in Self)?

M: Yes, there is. External samadhi is stillness while witnessing the world, without reacting to it from within. It is like a still sea, while the internal samadhi is like a steady flame. Sahaja samadhi (permanent absorption in Self) is the identity of the flame with the ocean.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 18, 2012, 01:47:21 PM
Q: Does one lose body-consciousness in samadhi (absorption in Self)? If so, how can there be any difference?

M: What is body-consciousness? Analyze it. There must be a body and consciousness limited to it, which together make up the body-consciousness. These must lie in another consciousness, which is absolute and unaffected. Hold onto it. That is samadhi. It exists when there is no body-consciousness because it transcends the latter, but it also exists when there is body consciousness. So it is always there. What does it matter whether the body is lost or retained? When lost it is internal samadhi, when retained, it is external samadhi. That is all.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 19, 2012, 01:43:00 AM
Q: But the mind does not sink into samadhi (absorption in Self) even for a second!

M: Strong conviction that "I am the Self" is necessary, transcending mind and phenomena.

Q: Nevertheless, the mind proves to be a cork at attempts to sink it.

M: What does it matter if the mind is active? It is only active on the substratum of the Self. Hold onto the Self even during mental activity.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 20, 2012, 12:42:45 PM
Q: Do you go into nirvikalpa samadhi (absorption in Self)?

M: (Speaking generally) if the eyes are closed, it is nirvikalpa; if open, it is savikalpa. (Both these are temporary states.) The ever-present and ultimate state is the natural one, i.e. sahaja.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 20, 2012, 12:48:29 PM
Dear prasanth,

This question by devotee has arisen because they know (for that matter, most of us) only Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Savikalpa Samadhi.

Sri Bhagavan's state is unknown in history of civilization (perhaps after the Buddha) - the state of sublime Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

Sri Bhagavan was in SNS for 54 years and Sri Buddha was so for about 30 years.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 21, 2012, 12:33:07 PM
Q: I maintain that the physical body of a person immersed in samadhi (absorption in Self) as a result of unbroken contemplation of the Self, need not become motionless. It may be active or inactive. Others assert that physical movement definitely prevents nirvikalpa (eyes closed) samadhi, or unbroken contemplation. What is your opinion?

M: Both of you are right -- you are referring to sahaja nirvikalpa (state of natural absorption in Self) and the other to kevala nirvikalpa. In the case of kevala (temporary absorption) the mind lies immersed in the light of the Self. The subject discriminates one from the other, and then there is activity.

(The two words "contemplation" and "samadhi" have been used loosely in the question. Contemplation is a forced mental process whereas samadhi [absorption in Self] lies beyond effort).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 24, 2012, 12:36:54 PM
Movement of the body, of the sight, of the vital force, of the mind, and the perception of objects and activity are obstructions for him. But in sahaja (natural absorption in Self), the mind has resolved into the Self and has been lost. So the differences and obstructions that I mentioned before do not exist here. The activities of such a being are like the feeding of a sleepy child -- perceptible to the onlooker but not to the subject. The driver sleeping in his moving (bullock) cart is not aware of the motion of the cart because his mind has sunk in darkness. Similarly the sahaja jnani (one in permanent absorption in Self) remains unaware of his bodily activities because his mind is dead, having been resolved in the ecstasy of chitananda (Self).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 25, 2012, 03:43:46 PM
Ananda is the bliss of not being disturbed by any mental activity or characteristics. There is a temporary bliss and a permanent one. The former state is called kevala samadhi, the latter is sahaja nirvikalpa samadhi, i.e. the state of nirvikalpa that has become natural. The Jnani (one who has realized the Self) in kevala samadhi enjoys the bliss of samadhi absorption in Self) arising from the cessation of mental activity and the disappearance of outside objects. But after a while his bliss ceases as mental activities begin and there is no samadhi for some time. In sahaja, however, there is no relapse into mental activity and no consequent loss of bliss. The happiness is unbroken and ever enduring. The body, senses and mind may be operative, but the person is hardly conscious of the acts of the body.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 26, 2012, 12:38:44 PM
Q: It is said that one remaining in nirvikalpa samadhi (natural absorption in Self) for 21 days must necessarily give up the physical body.

M: Samadhi means passing beyond. Non-identification of the body with the Self is a foregone conclusion. There are said to be people who have been immersed in nirvikalpa samadhi for a thousand years or more.

i) Holding onto Reality is samadhi.
ii) Holding onto Reality with effort is savikalpa samadhi.
iii) Merging into Reality and remaining unaware of the world is nirvikalpa samadhi.
iv) Merging in ignorance and remaining unaware of the world is sleep -- the head bows but not in samadhi.
v) Remaining in the primal, pure, natural state without effort is sahaja nirvikalpa samadhi.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 26, 2012, 07:45:55 PM
Dear Tushnim,

In a temple festival crowd, you keep your hand tightly with your mother's. You don't hold your hand with some other
lady's. How come? Because you know that she is your protector, refuge and support. Thus she is the Reality.  As you grow up,
you go to church or temple every week and pray. Why should you? Because you believe that God in the church or temple
is the Reality to protect you and support you. As you grow up, you find that the Self within is your supporter and refuge.
The Self need not have form. When someone calls you from a distance,. Tushnim, Tushnim...Where is Tushnim, you come
closer and say, I am, (showing the right side of your chest). Whether you are an American, African, Indian or an
Arab, bringing the hand to the right of the mid-chest and say, I, I, I. is the invariable practice.  Now this, 'I' - Aham is the reality.

There is no need for Aham to have a form. You just hold on to it.

Sri Bhagavan says even if one constantly chants I,I,I , then this I will take you to Reality. Sri Bhagavan says that this 'I' is more important than Om.

Arunachala Siva.               
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 27, 2012, 01:03:22 PM
The Mind

There is no entity, as such, which we can call "mind." Because thoughts emerge, we assume that there is something from which they emerge, and we term it "mind." When we probe to see what it is, we discover that there is nothing there. After it has thus disappeared, eternal peace remains. "Thinking" or "the discriminating faculty" are mere names. Whether it is "ego," "mind" or "intellect," it is the same. Whose mind is it? Whose intellect is it? It is the ego's. Is the ego real? No. We are confused by the ego and call it "intellect" or "mind."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 28, 2012, 02:05:42 PM
The Mind (contd)

Desire for sleep or the fear of death exists when the mind is active, and not in the respective states themselves. The mind knows that the body entity persists and reappears after sleep. Therefore sleep is not attended with any fear but with the pleasure of being without a body. No existence is sought. On the other hand, the mind is not sure of its reappearance after so-called death and therefore dreads it.

The gross body is only the concrete form of the subtle stuff: mind.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 28, 2012, 02:22:52 PM
Dear Tushnim,


Even if you keep on saying I, I, I, then Sri Bhagavan said I should leave you at the Source. But we are no able to achieve that,
because we have not still acquired a thoughtless mind. A thoughtless mind is the bridge to reach the Source.

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 28, 2012, 02:34:16 PM
Dear Tushnim,

Because there is a mind. Thoughts are gross form of mind. In a coma state, there are no thoughts.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: sanjaya_ganesh on September 28, 2012, 02:35:57 PM
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you have heard from Bhagavan that even if one chants "i" , "I" one will realize. But then sir, have you realized ?

Tushnim - "Desire to realize" is just another desire. See for yourself if you can reach a stage where there are no questions and no desires. Then you will find peace. To me, NO - I am not after realization. I dont even know what it is and dont have the desire to reach there. But I am immensely at peace 80% of the time with myself. It was just 1% years back and I have made it almost 80% now I can say. My goal is to be at peace 100% of the time. That is all. In that process, whatever comes and goes - comes and goes. That is it. So leave this desire to realize. Why are you here in this forum and what are you seeking? If I may ask...
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 28, 2012, 02:40:47 PM

You may not like to Realize. But you need Peace, is it not? The Summa Iru practice gives Peace. Is it not sufficient?
Peace, Love etc., are other names for Realization.

Desiring the Self is the only desire one can have, says   Sri Bhagavan.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 28, 2012, 02:58:24 PM
Dear Tushnim,

That is fine. But when you see the truth, you should accept it and not continue purva paksha arguments.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 28, 2012, 03:57:21 PM
Dear Tushnim,

Truth (Satyam, Ulladu) can never be seen.  It can only be experienced. Sri Bhagavan has said in some other connection:
What is seen is unreal, eg. world. What is experienced is Real.

A newly married lady went into nuptial room and had good sex with her husband. When she comes out for bath next
morning, she would only smile at her anxious mother. What can she explain.? It is all experiential. This simile has
been given by a sannyasi, Tayumanavar!

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 28, 2012, 04:14:57 PM
Dear Tushnim,


Experience is not mental. Experience is experiential. Now there is a sugar bottle in front of you. Can you mentally
taste the sugar? Unless you tale a spoon of sugar and put it in your mouth, you do not experience the sweetness of
sugar. You are having fever. Doctor has given you a strip of paracetamol. Can you mentally imagine that you have taken
paracetamol to cure your fever? No. You should take one tablet and the fever will  reduce. Another tablet, the fever will
come down further. Thus the effect of paracetamol should be experienced.  Mentally by contemplating on paracetamol,
the fever will not reduce.

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 28, 2012, 04:25:18 PM
Dear Tushnim,

Dream sugar satisfies only dream state. It is ephemeral. It does not help you in the waking state.
Just because you have taken 5 spoons of sugar in dream, can you go without sugar for your morning tea?

Or taking 100 spoons of sugar in the dream, does it give you diabetes?

Dream state should not be confused with waking state.

Arunachala Siva,   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 01, 2012, 12:52:48 PM
Q: How can we restrain the mind?

M: Will a thief hand over a thief? Will the mind find itself? The mind cannot seek the mind. You have ignored what is real and are holding onto the mind which is unreal, and are also trying to find out what it is. Was the mind there in your sleep? It was not, but it is here now. The mind is therefore impermanent. Can you find the mind? The mind is not you. You think you are the mind, and therefore you ask me how it can be restrained. If it is there, it can be checked. But it is not. Understand this truth by your own search. You will discover that searching for unreality is useless -- so seek the Reality, i.e. the Self. That is the way to control the mind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 01, 2012, 07:37:29 PM
controlling mind by self enquiry
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 01, 2012, 07:55:51 PM
practice to make sure mind stays in the source
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 01, 2012, 08:45:29 PM
Dear Tushnim,

In a way Yes. One has to enquire the Anatma first and keep them away neti neti. Then investigate the mind  and the Source from
which it is sprouted.  (Who am I?)

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 01, 2012, 09:08:14 PM
yes agreed with subramanian garu and Tushnim garu.

who am i/self enquiry is the key.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 02, 2012, 12:40:17 PM
Q: How can we restrain the mind? (contd)

There is only one thing that is real. Everything else is only an appearance. Diversity is not its nature. We are reading the printed characters on the paper but ignoring the paper which is the background. Similarly, you are taken up by the manifestations of the mind and do not hold onto the background. Whose fault is that?
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Post by: sanjaya_ganesh on October 02, 2012, 12:55:39 PM
Prashanth garu - Is this from talks? Very true...
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 03, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
Dear Tushnim,

That is why Sri Bhagavan recommended thoughtless meditation. But if one is bothered with too many thoughts, one can have one
thought, say god's name,. Or one can meditate on a Light as if it is in his mind/Heart.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 03, 2012, 12:31:10 PM
Dear Tushnim,

Yes. It is only becoming aware that there is no mind (thoughts) and I am only Awareness.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 03, 2012, 12:44:42 PM
should not matter but because of maya we keep thinking we are the mind and hence the self control suggestions by sri krishna in bhagavad gita.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 03, 2012, 12:51:18 PM
yes agreed tushnim garu.


Q: How can we restrain the mind? (contd)

The essence of the mind is only awareness or Consciousness. When the ego, however, dominates it, it functions as the reasoning, thinking or sensing faculty. The cosmic mind is not limited by the ego, and so has nothing separate from itself and is therefore simply aware. This is what the Bible means by "I am that I AM."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 04, 2012, 12:36:57 PM
simple analysis but difficult to put in practice  :) hence reason sri krishna told as below

Bg Gita Ch6 Text35

The Blessed Lord said: O mighty-armed son of Kunti, it is undoubtedly very difficult to curb the restless mind, but it is possible by constant practice and by detachment.

Q: The difficulty is to remain in the thoughtless state, and yet carry out the thinking necessary for fulfilling our duties.

M: The one that thinks is yourself. Let action occur of its own accord. Why associate yourself with the difficulty? When you have to go outdoors you just lift your feet and go without thinking about it. Like this, the state becomes automatic, and when necessary, thinking arises and disappears of its own accord. Intuition works when there is no thought, and intuition will guide you. Those who have made big discoveries, have made them not when they were anxious about them, but in the stillness, by intuition rather than by thinking.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 04, 2012, 01:23:55 PM
yes but difficult to cut the roots  :)

I think this comparision of roots/trees with thoughts/desires is not apt.

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 05, 2012, 12:38:54 AM
so then what do you exactly want to convey by your below statement sir?

>> if teh roots of the tree are cut, the tree dies.
>> if the branches are cut, its indeed difficult to kill it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 05, 2012, 12:27:33 PM
Mental activity ceases when Self-Inquiry is answered. Even if you are thinking about God, it is still an activity and must be given up. The one who practices vichara (inquiry) merges in God and then ceases to think about Him.

Intellect is a tool of the Self, which uses it for measuring diversity. It is not outside the Self. How could there be manifestations of intellect if the seed did not exist?
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 05, 2012, 04:02:47 PM
Dear Tushnim,

I agree. But why we all are not like Annamalai Swami. It is because thoughts do come, or we grab the thoughts. Now to say
that anything that is mind and body is not I - requires a lot of practice? Is it not? Otherwise, if thoughts could be ignored stating
that anything that is concerned with mind and body, is the best situation.

Take for example Sri Bhagavan's terminal illness. Even with a stomach pain due to indigestion, we all cry, look for tablets, go
to doctor, complain to wife that the food was not good etc., etc., Whereas Sri Bhagavan took it with ease the terminal cancer
pain that was excruciating.

The one difficulty in reading Sri Bhagavan or Annamalai Swami is that we think WE CAN ALSO BE LIKE THAT. IT IS NOT SO.
It comes with practice, dispassion, detachment with body and mind. That is why most of us need continuous efforts, perseverance,.       
detachment, and dispassion.

Saint Tiru Navukkarasar came with a severe colic pain from Jain Math to his place Tiruvadigai. His sister told him to go and
report to Siva. He went and cried and applied vibhuti. The pain had gone. This story shows the grace part of God.

Either develop dispassion or seek God's Grace.
 
Arunachala Siva.

 
 
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 05, 2012, 04:16:34 PM
Dear Tushnim,

Distancing our mind from thoughts, is what you said.  This is the most difficult part. Tell me, touch your heart, are you
like Annamalai Swami?

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 05, 2012, 05:25:26 PM
Dear Tushnim,

I am not trying to argue with you. What I am trying to convey is that to remain in thoughtless awareness is the most
difficult proposition, and it is one of Maya's sports. Only Maya - Suddha Maya - grace should help us, along with our
own dispassion and detachment. One of Maya's sports is to pull us into thoughts. She is the one who causes everything
in this world, thirst, hunger, sleep, anger, lust, greed, jealousy etc., All these come out of our thoughts. 
 
To overcome this only, rishis have prescribed sravana (listening to the guru's words), manana (mentally reciting these teachings),
nididhyasana (contemplation) etc., If everyone could remain in thoughtless state, egoless state, in a state of Awareness,
then there is no need for prescriptions. 

If no one in the world is having headache, then Saridon and other paracetamol tablets cannot find their place in medical shops.

Arunachala Siva.       
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 08, 2012, 01:05:28 PM
Q: How can the rebellious mind be brought under control?

M: Either seek its source so that it may disappear, or surrender so that it may be struck down.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on October 08, 2012, 03:26:17 PM
Dear prasanth,

Nice.  This is in nutshell Sri Bhagavan's twin upadesa. Self Inquiry and Total Surrender to God.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 09, 2012, 12:40:00 PM
Q: How can I get peace?

M: Peace is the natural state. The mind obstructs the innate peace. Investigate the mind and it will disappear; only you will remain. So the question is one of outlook. You perceive all. See yourself and all will be known. Now you have lost hold of yourself and go about doubting other things.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 10, 2012, 12:45:12 PM
Q: How can I get rid of the mind?

M: Is it the mind that wants to kill itself? The mind cannot kill itself. So your business is to find the real nature of the mind. Then you will find there is no mind. When the Self is discovered the mind ceases to exist. Abiding in the Self, one need not worry about the mind.
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Post by: Vladimir on October 10, 2012, 03:48:58 PM
Excellent.
Abide as I AM...
but more importantly inquire what takes us away from "I AM"
:)

Namaste Tushnim.Asanam!

The Self only can take "us" away from ourselves. Otherwise we have to admit there is something else, exept for the Self. But it is not so. The Self only exists, so called "we" do not. There is not another energy sourse exept for the Self, so any movements of so called "us" towards the Self and away from It come from I AM only.
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Post by: Vladimir on October 10, 2012, 06:57:30 PM
Dear Vladimir,
       :) if you say "Self takes us away" then it means you are saying Self does an action! While Self is actionless and motionless ! and if I am also Self, then I too am moving!
Self is motionless and changeless !
So :) what changes, as always, is a upadhi.
and upadhi is mithya.

Dear Tushnim.Asanam,

Of course, the Self is motionless and changeless. I ment any action comes from the Self only and there's no other energy resourse for ANY action, whether an action seems good or bad, right or wrong for an individual. So what takes "us" away from the Self also comes from the Self only, and there's no reason to investigate what exactly such an action is. It's quite enough to see the origin of that "taking away" :) action.
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Post by: Vladimir on October 10, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
Dear Tushnim.Asanam,  :)
There's nothing different from the Self. When so called "I' was born, the illusion of motion started. When this "I" dies, the illusion will also go away. The Self remains unchengeble, whether the knowledge of "I" exists or not
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 11, 2012, 12:31:56 PM
M: You now want to go somewhere else and from there you will want to go to another place. At this rate there could be no end to your travels. You do not realize that it is your mind that drives you in this manner. First control that, and you will be happy wherever you are. It is my impression that Vivekananda has somewhere told the story of a man trying to bury his shadow, and finding that over every sod of earth he had dug up, the shadow kept on appearing over the top; the shadow could never be buried! It is the same if you try and bury your thoughts. One must therefore attempt to get to the very bottom of that from which thought springs, and root it out along with mind and desires.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 12, 2012, 12:39:48 PM
M: So long as false identification persists, doubts will persist too; questions will arise, there will be no end to them. Doubts will cease only when the non-self is eliminated and that will result in realization. There will be no one there to doubt or ask. All these doubts should be solved within. No amount of words will satisfy. Hold onto the thinker; when the thinker is not held, the objects appear and doubts arise.

What is it that sees? The physical eyes? No. It is the mind. When the mind looks through the eyes, then it sees; when it withdraws, it sees nothing.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 15, 2012, 01:51:04 AM
M: That which is beyond the ego, is the Consciousness, the Self. In sleep, the mind becomes neutral, and is not destroyed. That which becomes neutral (laya) reappears. But the mind which is destroyed can never reappear. The aim must be to destroy it and not sink into laya (dissolution). Laya happens in the peace of meditation, but it is not enough. The destruction of the mind is recognizing it as not being apart from the Self. Even now the mind is not. Recognize this.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 15, 2012, 11:52:01 AM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. This is what Sri Bhagavan said precisely in Upadesa Saram, Verse 13:

Absorption is of two sorts;
Submergence and destruction.
Mind submerged rises again;
Dead, it revives no more.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: Hari on October 15, 2012, 10:22:51 PM
Very good topic, Sri prasanth, I have taught to share that with you a long time ago. The quotes you choose are really very profound, simple and understanding. I hope more people will visit this topic. It would be very helpful for all. Thank you for your work and wish you very best.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 16, 2012, 01:27:42 AM
Dear hari garu,

thanks for encouragement sir but to be honest with you i actually receive these quotes from a devoted ramana group and i forward the same to our forum.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 16, 2012, 01:41:06 AM
Thought

Self-realization is the cessation of thoughts and all mental activity. Thoughts are like bubbles upon the surface of the sea (Self).

Thoughts are predispositions accumulated through innumerable former births, in the chitta (mind). Their annihilation must be the aim. To be free from them is purity. People are deluded by the confusing of the conscious Self with the insentient body; this delusion must cease. No effort is needed to realize the ever-present Self, just remove the delusion.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 16, 2012, 01:20:07 PM
>>  So... Self inquiry is to remain as "I AM", when these thoughts take place and remain unaffected -- to clearly see that i am unaffected!  Thats Self inquiry

yes agreed udai garu and i am with you.

I think when someone from ramana marshi's school says like we need to kill mind and destroy thoughts etc we need to understand it like saying he actually meant to remain unaffected  :)
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 16, 2012, 02:20:04 PM
Dear prasanth,

If to remain unaffected by thoughts is adequate, then why should Sri Bhagavan say, mano-nasam in Who am I?

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: Ravi.N on October 16, 2012, 03:12:20 PM
Friends,
This is what sri Ramakrishna says:
"There is poison in a snake;but though others may die if bitten by it, the snake itself is not affected by the poison."
Likewise the JnAni perceives all things (world,thoughts)as not outside of Self.

Again he says:
"Water is water whether it is calm or full of waves and bubbles. The
Absolute alone is the Primordial Energy, which creates, preserves, and destroys. Thus it is
the same 'Captain', whether he remains inactive or performs his worship or pays a visit to
the Governor General. Only we designate him by different names at different times
."

The jnAni is in this undifferentiated state,with or without thoughts.It makes no difference to him.He is free to 'identify' with the thoughts and Cry or laugh.

This Sri ramakrisna refers to as the State of VijnAna:
"It is a joy to merge the mind in the Indivisible Brahman through contemplation. And it is
also a joy to keep the mind on the Lila, the Relative, without dissolving it in the Absolute.
"A mere jnani is a monotonous person. He always analyses, saying: 'It is not this, not this.
The world is like a dream.' But I have 'raised both my hands'. Therefore I accept
everything.

Parable of the weaver woman
"Listen to a story. Once a woman went to see her weaver friend. The weaver, who had been
spinning different kinds of silk thread, was very happy to see her friend and said to her:
'Friend, I can't tell you how happy I am to see you. Let me get you some refreshments.' She
left the room. The woman looked at the threads of different colours and was tempted. She
hid a bundle of thread under one arm. The weaver returned presently with the refreshments
and began to feed her guest with great enthusiasm. But, looking at the thread, she realized
that her friend had taken a bundle. Hitting upon a plan to get it back, she said: 'Friend, it is
so long since I have seen you. This is a day of great joy for me. I feel very much like asking
you to dance with me.' The friend said, 'Sister, I am feeling very happy too.' So the two
friends began to dance together. When the weaver saw that her friend danced without
raising her hands, she said: 'Friend, let us dance with both hands raised. This is a day of
great joy.' But the guest pressed one arm to her side and danced raising only the other. The
weaver said: 'How is this, friend? Why should you dance with only one hand raised? Dance
with me raising both hands. Look at me. See how I dance with both hands raised.' But the
guest still pressed one arm to her side. She danced with the other hand raised and said with
a smile, 'This is all I know of dancing.' "

The Master continued: "I don't press my arm to my side. Both my hands are free. I am not
afraid of anything. I accept both the Nitya and the Lila, both the Absolute and the Relative
."

Namaskar.
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Post by: Jewell on October 16, 2012, 05:20:07 PM
Dear Sri Ravi,

Thank You Very much for Beautiful words of Ramakrishna! They are Very true,and reflect true absence of fear.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 17, 2012, 12:27:32 PM
Absence of thought does not mean a void. There must be one to know the void. Knowledge and ignorance are of the mind. They are not born of duality, but the Self is beyond knowledge and ignorance. It is self-luminous. There is no necessity to see the Self with another Self. There are not two selves. What is not Self is non-self. The non-self cannot see the Self. There cannot be seeing or hearing. The Self lies beyond, all alone as pure Consciousness.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 17, 2012, 12:31:44 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan says this in Verse 27 of Upadesa Saram.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 18, 2012, 12:52:48 PM
Thoughts are our enemy. When we are free of thoughts we are naturally blissful. The gap between two thoughts is our true state; it is the real Self. Get rid of thoughts, be empty of them, be in a state of perpetual thoughtlessness. Then you will be consciously Self-existent. Thoughts, desires and all qualities are alien to our true nature. The West may praise a person as a great thinker. But what is that? True greatness is to be free of thoughts.
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Post by: sanjaya_ganesh on October 18, 2012, 01:04:07 PM
Quote
Get rid of thoughts

Who should get rid of thoughts? I as in ego?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 19, 2012, 01:32:37 PM
Your present experience of the thoughts ceasing is due to the influence of the atmosphere you are now in. Can you find the same experience away from this atmosphere? It is spasmodic. Until it becomes permanent, practice is necessary. After one gets established in truth, practice drops away naturally.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 19, 2012, 01:43:57 PM
Dear Tusnim,

The gap - however short it may be- between two thoughts, is our real thoughtless state. Sri  Bhagavan has said that
as soon as you get up in the morning, before thoughts engulf you, you find for a brief second or even more, one shall
experience this thoughtless state, which is our true state.

In Guruyaur or for that matter in any temple, there is a large queue. The queue moves slowly. People who are far behind
the number of people sometimes have a glimpse of God's image when there is a gap between two moving
persons in the queue. This can be compared to the thoughtless state.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 19, 2012, 02:52:22 PM
Dear Tusnim,

I AM ness is always there.  But it is only in thoughtless state, which is in between two thoughts. It may be there only
for a few seconds. Permanent abidance in the Self (asmitha) happens only when one is free from thoughtless state for
ever. Then the question arises, how can a  Jivan Mukta who is ever in permanent abidance in the Self - can do work?
Sri Bhagavan did a lot of work. Muruganar answers this point in Guru Vachaka Kovai. He says that the Self itself does
all the work for a Jivanmukta.

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 19, 2012, 03:11:08 PM
Dear Tusnim,

It was said as an initial practice. A banker in a bank may find it difficult to count notes. In due course, he counts
the notes very very fast, which you and I cannot do. So is the case.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 19, 2012, 11:24:47 PM
>>So the thoughtless state is not there for most of the day... only thoughts are there.

yes agreed with udai garu.

I think subramanaian garu you need to accept udai garu's views sir...thinking practically udai garu views are apt..

its simple .. i give more weight to what/how bhagavan lived rather than what he said..
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Post by: ramanaduli on October 20, 2012, 09:10:40 AM
Dear sir,

Jivan mukta also does work when he lives with people may be it is his last prarabtha karma which is left over. He does not bother about the result. Other people only see his activities and get confusion. Thoughtless man is called jivan mukta. It is my understanding.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 20, 2012, 10:24:33 AM
Dear ramanaduli,

A Jivan mukta has no prarabdha karma also. He works, speaks, and writes poetry and prose, as per the direction of the Self
within.

This was the case with both Sri Sankara and Sri Bhagavan.


Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 22, 2012, 12:45:39 PM
The true answer to the question, "Who Am I?" does not come in thoughts. All thoughts disappear -- even the thinker himself disappears.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 22, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. It is an answerless question, when the mind merges in the Self.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 23, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Q: Thoughts are not real then?

M: Quite so. Mind is only a bundle of thoughts, with its origin in Consciousness or Self. Thoughts are not real; the only reality is the Self.

What you call "mind" is an illusion. It starts after the "I"-thought. The enduring background, free from thoughts, is the Self. Mind in its purity is the Self. When camphor burns no residue is left. The mind is the camphor; when it has resolved itself into the Self without leaving the slightest trace, it is realization.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: Subramanian.R on October 23, 2012, 01:08:46 PM
Dear prasanth,

This is one of the beautiful pieces conversations with Sri Bhagavan.

This should clear the doubts of many seekers in this Forum in regard to mind and thoughts.

Arunachala Sica. 
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 23, 2012, 03:56:10 PM
Dear Tusnim,

The statement - 'when there is no mind, how does Sri Bhagavan display His active nature and  walk and speak?'

This has been answered many times, by me, quoting Guru Vachaka Kovai. Muruganar says, God within Him makes Him act,
walk and write poetry. He did not say the Self. Self in Saguna rupa is God. God can act.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 23, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
Dear Tusnim,

See some of the verses of Padamalai of Muruganar. Guru Vachaka Kovai is in Saraswati Puja and I cannot take it out now.

Verse 1138: Upon thorough investigation, it will be known that those who possess the greatness of of the immensely vast
and noble Self are Iswara (God) himself, for their nature is divine.

Veerse 2609: Any offering to a Siva Jnani, who shines having obtained liberation, is an offering to Siva.

Verse 1040: It is impossible to describe the greatness of a Jnani who, by merely living on this earth, confers the greatest
benefit on the world.

Letters from Sri Ramanasramam: 3.6.1946:

For a Jnani who has realized his Self, there is no iccha prarabdha. The two others aniccha and parecha remain. Only with this
they do all activities in life. Whatever actions that such people do, there is no punya and no papa attached to them.   

Verse 2245: Only knowledge of reality is identical in all Jnanis.
All other things will be of many different natures.

(Janaka was a Jnani, he was ruling a monarch, but his Guru Yajnavlkya, who was also a Jnani renounced the world and went to
the forest. All happens according to the destiny of each Jnani. Krishna was an enjoyer of pleasures wheres Sukadev was an ascetic.
Janaka and Rama were kings while Vasishta was a believer in Vedic activities. All of the were Jnanis. Their inner experience was the
same while their external lives were in accordance with their respective destinies.                     

Verse 666: The true form of a Guru can be known only if one realizes, through the grace of Guru, one's own real form,.

Maharshi's Gospel:

Q: How then does the aham vritti function in the Jnani?

B: It does not function in him at all.

About the mind:

Verse 702: The intrinsic purity of your own Self nature, was corrupted on account of your worthless mind.,

Verse 2894: Do not struggle with the mind regarding it as something real. If you inquire within, and know what it is
it will cease to exist.

Verse 2329: Upon the destruction of the mind, the appearance of the world that adheres to you, in the state of harmful
delusion, will stand illustrious as Pure Consciousness.

Verse  1283: The mind that has died in Pure Consciousness, mere being, will surge forth, resurrecting itself as bhuma,
the all pervasive reality.

Verse 1292: The means for realizing one's true nature as the Self is to kill off the base mind known as 'I.'

Verse 455: The mind that has died in the experience of Sivam, which is true Jnana, Supreme Consciousness,, will itself shine
as  the Supreme Being.

Arunachala Siva.       
   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 23, 2012, 08:33:56 PM
Dear Subramanian garu and udai garu,

I understand both sides of the coin i.e from where you both are coming from.

Somehow i tend to agree with udai garu that holistic practical approach should be taken to understand life of ramana and to match his teachings.

Subramain garu:  you quoted that Muruganar says, God within guru ramana makes Him act like that...

can you give us the definition of god and sex(if human) for what murugunar is quoting please?

I only consider murugunar's views as his personal opinions and his comments might be because of his un-conditional love and respect to our guru.

Thinking practically udai garu comments are apt for me.

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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 24, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
Dear prasanth,

Muruganar has said that in a mind/ego less state of a Jnani, the God within does all the work for him. He never mentions
about which god, sex etc.,

Verse 1139 of GVK states:

If it is asked, 'We actually see the Jnani performing actions. 'How can actions be performed in the absence of the sense of
doership?'  you should be convinced that because his inner attachment (ego) is dead, he has God himself residing in his
Heart and performing those actions.

Day by Day entry dated 5th May 1946, says:

Bhagavan: And if it is held that a man cannot be considered a Jnani as long as he performs actions in the world (and
action is impossible without the mind), then not only the great sages who carried on various kinds of work after attaining
Jnana must not be considered Jnanis, but the gods also, and Iswara himself, since he continues looking after the world.
The fact that any amount of action can be performed and performed quite well, by the Jnani without his identifying himself with it
in any way or ever imagining that he is the doer. Some power acts through his body to get the work done.


Arunachala Siva,.         
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 24, 2012, 12:37:58 PM
yes "some power" is the correct definition of god for me sir... :)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 24, 2012, 12:44:12 PM
Without the gross or subtle senses you cannot be aware of the body or the mind. However, you can exist without these senses. In that state, you are "asleep" (to the world), or aware of the Self only. Pure awareness of Self is always there. Remain as you are and your questions will not arise.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 24, 2012, 12:56:35 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Here what Sri Bhagavan mentioned as some power is only Sakti. She only operates from within. Once someone
asked Sri Bhagavan: You are speaking and writing  about Annamalai, but not about Unnamulai. Sri Bhagavan said:
That Sakti alone is operating within me to do all these - ie. writing  about Annamalai (=Self).

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 25, 2012, 12:45:27 PM
Dear  Tusnim,

Mind is usually called as Maya.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 25, 2012, 12:56:26 PM
well said subramanain garu. i agree with you sir. sakthi is not mind and only maya.

Q: Should we think "I am not the ego?"

M: In deep sleep, we do not think whether we are or not; so in the waking state we can also live without thought. Our reality -- and our being in that state -- is the absolute happiness. It is the thinking that makes the ego. The ego is only a thought for us, we are without thoughts. The source of thoughts is within us. If we begin to examine ourselves, we discover our real nature. It is not by mere thought that you get rid of ego, it is by experience. Do not conceive of the thoughtless state as being deep sleep or trance. There is no such thing as realization. There is only the warding off of thoughts. Be the reality and do not waste time keeping on repeating "I am Brahman" a thousand times over. The ego must go on trying to see the source of its own reality.

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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 25, 2012, 01:19:12 PM
Dear Prasanth,

Yes. Sri Bhagavan says in Sad Darsanam, Verse 26:

When the ego rises, all things rise with it. When the ego is not, there is nothing else. Since the ego thus is everything,
to question, 'What is this thing?' is the tapas, quest - that results in the extinction of all of things.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 25, 2012, 01:23:03 PM
yes beautifully said by bhagavan.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 25, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
Dear udai,

i respect your personal opinions but i am dead against your views..

Mother shakthi is so powerful and i have few personal experiences as well.

lust towards women,alchol,ego,anger are all maya activities or tamasic/rajasic actitivities.

ramakrishna paramahamsa worshipped mother !
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Post by: Subramanian.R on October 25, 2012, 05:33:29 PM
Dear Tusnim,

Maya is of two types. She who sports with your mind outurned and create problems is called asuddha maya. One who
merges with Self is Suddha Maya. Suddha Maya is Sakti, Mother etc., What Sri Bhagavan said was the Suddha Maya, Sakti
was acting on His behalf for all His activities.  This concept is explained by Bhaskara Raya in his commentary on Sri Lalita
Sahasranamam.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramanaduli on October 25, 2012, 05:44:09 PM
Dear sir,

Asuddha maya can be called Ego.
we can pray Mother to turn our asuddha maya into suddha maya. Because with human effort it is very difficult to kill the ego.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 26, 2012, 12:48:51 PM
Q: How can the mind be made to go?

M: No attempt should be made to destroy it. To think or wish is in itself a thought. If the thinker is sought, the thoughts will disappear.

Q: Will they disappear by themselves? It seems so difficult.

M: They will disappear because they are unreal. The idea of difficulty is itself an obstacle to realization. It must be overcome. To remain as the Self is not difficult. This thought of difficulty is the chief obstacle. A little practice in discovering the source of "I" will make you think differently. Absolute freedom from thoughts is the state conducive to such recognition of the Self. Mind is but an aggregate of thoughts.
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Post by: ramanaduli on October 27, 2012, 08:41:05 AM
Dear Prasanth ji,


Thanks for your post. Now you have given another truth. "The idea of difficulty is itself an obstacle to realization. "

First a thought comes.... " I am bound" In real no one is bound
2nd another thought.......  "I should be liberated"   This is also not real
3rd. another thought......  "searching for the solution" from outside
4th another thought.......   "this is correct that is wrong path" ..starting comparing
5th again another thought... " this is difficult"

So these are thoughts which must be overcome.  Bhagavan says.. a little practice in discovering the source of "I"

Again the mind starts to think.. how to practice, when to practice, how long  to practice. 

Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 27, 2012, 12:37:52 PM
yes very well said ramanaduli garu.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 29, 2012, 01:00:48 PM
Q: How can we get rid of fear?

M: All fear is nothing more than thoughts. If there is only one, there cannot be a second to be afraid of. If we look to our Self, as it is one, there is nothing else to be afraid of. To think that there is something outside ourselves is the cause of fear, but if we are firmly rooted in our own reality, then there will be no fear, no doubt and no undesirable qualities, as all these are centered around the ego.

The state of equanimity is the state of Bliss.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 30, 2012, 01:04:24 AM
Q: Has the Self forgotten its true nature?

M: Both oblivion and memory are only thought-forms. They will alternate as long as there are thoughts. Memory and oblivion depend on "I" which, when one looks for it, cannot be found because it is unreal. These truths are not realized because the samskaras (mental tendencies) have not been destroyed. The roots of doubt and confusion are samskaras, which must be cut out. This is done by following the practice prescribed by the guru. The guru leaves it to the seekers to do this part so that they can find out the truth for themselves. Practice renders the seeds of vasanas (inherent tendencies) ineffective.

Do not allow a single mental activity to intrude into your dhyana (meditation). One should continue the practice as long as the ego or a sense of possession are not completely eliminated, i.e. till you can, at will and without effort, keep the mind free of concepts or activities. Otherwise you must go on with the practice.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 31, 2012, 12:47:29 AM
People often misunderstand samadhi (absorption in Self). Bhagavan told the story of a yogi who spent hundreds of years in a trance beside the River Ganges, whose first thought on awakening was for some water he had requested before entering the trance. The thoughts had resumed, so the trance was useless. Real attainment, said the Maharshi, was to be fully conscious, to be aware of people and one's surroundings, to move among them all, yet not to merge one's consciousness in the environment, but to retain an inner independent awareness of That. This is the highest, not sitting in a trance, which merely halts the mind. The mind must be destroyed entirely, not merely arrested.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 01, 2012, 01:31:33 AM
The Intellect and Learning

The intellect always seeks to have external knowledge, rejecting knowledge of its own origin. The mind is only the identification of the Self with the body. It is a false ego that is created; it creates false phenomena in its turn and appears to move in them. If the false identity vanishes the Reality becomes apparent. This does not mean that Reality is not there now. It is always there and eternally the same.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 02, 2012, 12:53:58 PM
Knowledge implies the result of impressions on one's consciousness.

Doubt or uncertainty is for the mind or intellect and has no place in the perfection of Realization.

Q: Then is all our intellectual progress worth nothing?

M: Whose intellect is progressing? Find out.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 05, 2012, 01:45:15 PM
Q: How does the intellect help?

M: Only in making one sink the intellect in the ego and the ego in the Self. After realization, all intellectual loads are thrown overboard as flotsam. Whose is the intellect? It is man's. Intellect is only an instrument. To reach the Self it must vanish.

Pride of learning and the desire for appreciation are condemned, not the learning itself. Education and learning which lead to the search for Truth and humility are good.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 05, 2012, 06:59:07 PM
Dear prasanth,

Yes. Intellect is helpful only to know the true form of the world, mind and ego and then work out how to quell the
mind and place it with the Self. The role of intellect thereafter is not necessary.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 06, 2012, 01:31:44 PM
Q: I begin to ask myself " Who am I?" and eliminate the body as not "I, " the prana (breath, vital force) as not "I," the mind as not "I," and I am not able to proceed further.

M: Well, that is as far as the intellect goes. Your process is only intellectual. Indeed all the scriptures mention the process only to guide the seeker to know the truth. The truth cannot be directly pointed out, hence this intellectual process. You see, the one who eliminates all that is "not-I," cannot eliminate the "I." To say, "I am not this," or "I am that," there must be the "I." This "I" is only the ego, or the "I"-thought. Once the "I"-thought has arisen, all other thoughts follow. The "I"-thought is therefore the root thought. If this root thought is eliminated, all others are uprooted.

Ask yourself, "Who am I?" Find its source. Then all these thoughts will vanish and the pure Self, alone, will remain. The "I" (feeling) is always there -- there is always the feeling of "I," otherwise could you deny your existence?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 07, 2012, 12:31:45 PM
The reality of yourself cannot be questioned. The Self is the primal reality. The ordinary person unconsciously takes reality to be their true inner reality plus everything else that has come into their consciousness as pertaining to themselves -- i.e., body, world, etc. This they have to unlearn.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 08, 2012, 01:34:06 PM
Q: Where are memory and forgetfulness located?

M: In the Chitta (intellect).

People such as inventors searching for new material, make their discoveries in a state of self-forgetfulness. It is in a condition of deep intellectual concentration that this forgetfulness of the ego occurs, and the invention is revealed. This is also a way of developing intuition. Hence a sharpened, concentrated intellect is useful, and even essential in material matters, but the revelation or intuition arises in its own time and one must wait for it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 09, 2012, 12:32:35 PM
Q: Three or four times in my life great spiritual ecstasies have come and gone. I want them permanently.

M: They have come and gone, but you have not gone. Your real Self is still there!

There is a unity really, but intellect creates differences. Even so, intellect is a power (faculty) of the Self, but the principle which lies behind the intellect cannot be known by the intellect.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 12, 2012, 01:32:16 PM
However much you learn, there will be no bounds to knowledge. You ignore the doubter but try to solve the doubts. Instead, hold onto the doubter and the doubts will disappear. Yoga and meditation are for ordinary people. Vichara (Self-Inquiry) is for the wise. Vichara is the means of gaining realization.

There are people of giant intellect who spend their lives discovering knowledge about many things; but all this intellect is being turned outwards. What is the use of knowing about everything else when you do not yet know yourself? Ask these people if they know who they are, and they will hang their heads in shame.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 13, 2012, 01:54:44 AM
Bhagavan to Paul Brunton: Your explanation in The Secret Path that the intellect is something added to the Self later, something superimposed by evolution, is not strictly correct from the highest standpoint. It must have always existed in the Self in order to have manifested: hence latently it was co-existent with the Self and did not come later. The tree must have been contained within the seed or it could not have sprung out of it: so too, intellect must have been contained in the Self from the beginning.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 14, 2012, 12:50:54 PM
On Books

Lectures and books are of little benefit and are useful only to point out the way to beginners. The real work is done in meditation. As the Tamil Saint, Tayumanavar, points out in a poem, a person who sits still and silently can influence a whole country. The force of meditation is infinitely more powerful than speech or writing. One who sits in silence, meditating on the Self, will draw a whole crowd of people to him, without his going out to anyone.

Even books like the Bhagavad Gita, and Light on the Path, must be given up to find the Self by looking within. Even the Gita says, "Meditate on the Self." It does not say, "Meditate upon the book of the Gita. "

I asked Maharshi why his books are in poem and song. He said it was easier for people to learn and remember them in this form.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 14, 2012, 01:52:53 PM
Dear prasanth,

I think the following is the Tayumanavar song that Sri Bhagavan had referred.


காகம் உறவு கலந்துண்ணக் கண்டீர் அகண்டா காரசிவ
போக மெனும்பே ரின்பவெள்ளம் பொங்கித்ததும்பிப் பூரணமாய்
ஏக வுருவாய்க் கிடக்குதையோ இன்புற் றிடநாம் இனிஎடுத்த
தேகம் விழுமுன் புசிப்பதற்குச் சேர வாருஞ் சகத்தீரே. 3.


Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 15, 2012, 01:43:58 AM
Q: How do books help?

M: Only in that they may increase our spiritual aspiration.

The study of the sacred books will not be enough to reveal the truth. So long as vasanas (conditioned tendencies) are latent in the mind, realization cannot be achieved. Sastra (scripture) learning is itself a vasana. Samadhi (absorption in the Self) alone can reveal realization. Thoughts cast a veil over reality, and so it cannot be clear in states other than samadhi.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 15, 2012, 12:45:46 PM
Dear Prasanth,

Swami Madhurananda speaks of five  pitfalls in Advaitic Sadhana, in his two part articles in Mountain Path, April-June 2006 & July-
October 2006.  These are-

a. snares of intellect. which include that sastras should be studied in great length, to attain enlightenment.

b. laya.

c. spiritual experiences like visions etc.,

d. the thought 'I am enlightened!"

e. the idea that Advaitic practice is not relevant to daily life.   

Very interesting articles and original ideas

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 15, 2012, 01:43:27 PM
Dear Tusnim,

The author says that the thought I am enlightened during Sadhana alone is a pitfall. Because it gives a false sense of
complacency. After really attaining enlightenment, one should remain ever in peace and dynamic stillness.

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 15, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
Dear Tusnim,

I shall quote the passage of the article by Swami Madhurananda, in Advent 2006 of Mountain Path:

'I am the enlightened one'

Due to their brief glimpses of dynamic peace, some people, even though they are just beginners, claim that they are fully
enlightened. This is mere delusion. Enlightenment is  not a state where one says, 'I am enlightened! How great I am! All
other beings need to be saved by me! As has already been explained, this is because enlightenment is not an experience
that happens to an individual. It is NOT a personal experience. It is impersonal. Yet it does not happen in isolation from
other beings. This is the paradox that the great Nisargadatta Maharaj described as the experience, 'I am nothing and yet
I am everything! So if a person says, 'I am enlightened, you are not!' we cannot sure he is not  enlightened at all!

It is true that enlightenment is the simplest thing, and that a person looks no different after achieving it. He remains simple
and unaffected. We unfortunately tend to mistake simplicity for spiritual shallowness. But a stage is at once extremely simple
and very profound. He has swallowed the entire universe of names and forms, and revels in supreme unfathomable peace. The
state of such a sage cannot even be guessed at. His Supreme Peace is known to him alone. This is why it is ludicrous when modern
'gurus'  give certificates of enlightenment to their disciples, endorsing them as teachers! Someone who needs the confirmation
of others regarding his own enlightenment is surely the king of ignorance and no wisdom. He seeks name and fame, not the welfare
of suffering sentient beings. Both the so called gurus and their misguided disciples who advertise their 'enlightenment', are bereft
of wisdom, because their focus is on worldly gain.

Enlightenment is a total shift in one's outlook on the world. One's experience of Reality moves from thinking that it exists externally
(objectively), to experiencing it subjectively (internally). As a consequence, one's experience does not need any external proof at all.
When Sri Bhagavan was enlightened He knew nothing about Brahmajnana, let alone what the word Brahman meant.

It is only when we come to truly understand that we continue to exist even when the body and the world are absent, that we will
know that we too, like the sage, are deathless and eternal.

An enlightened Jnani will never say I am enlightened, because to say so, is a thinking process and not an experiential bliss.

******

Arunachala Siva.   
                       
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Post by: Nagaraj on November 15, 2012, 04:35:35 PM
Sri Tushnim,

 :) are you talking for yourself or on behalf of the enlightened?

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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 15, 2012, 05:06:32 PM
Dear Tusnim,

I do not know whether the Buddha said I am enlightened.

Sri Bhagavan had said, "There is no birth or death" and 'there is no bondage or liberation" - only to highlight the state
of all devotees, (what is preventing them is only the thought of - this is not possible for me, and I am not fit for it, etc.)
 and not to tom tom His state of enlightenment.

Arunachala Siva.   
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 16, 2012, 12:47:22 PM
Q: Which is better, to practice meditation or to study spiritual books like the Upanishads?

M: It is entirely a matter of temperament. If you find that meditation suits you and helps to attain progress, then go on with it. Other people find that studying books suits them better than meditation. Different people must have different paths, it is a matter of individual taste and temperament
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 19, 2012, 01:41:10 PM
M: Personal example and personal instruction are the most helpful aids on the path, while practice is better than books.

When reading a book, while your eyes are following the lines, your heart should be in the One.

The guru is both an internal and an external signpost, whereas books are only external signposts to the path. As an internal one, the guru is an active force and in a sense your own higher Self.

(To one who was fond of reading)

M: That which you seek is inside Yourself. The books them selves are outside. Then why look in the wrong direction by studying them?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 20, 2012, 12:45:27 PM
The Ego

The root of all thoughts is ego (ahamkara).

The ego pertains to all waking activities, the consciousness, the intellect. In deep sleep where is the '"I?" The intellect is still, the body is still, and yet the Self is there. It is the waking activities that veil the real Self by making the ego -- the false self -- appear as the real Self.
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Post by: atmavichar100 on November 20, 2012, 03:33:36 PM
Q: Which is better, to practice meditation or to study spiritual books like the Upanishads?

M: It is entirely a matter of temperament. If you find that meditation suits you and helps to attain progress, then go on with it. Other people find that studying books suits them better than meditation. Different people must have different paths, it is a matter of individual taste and temperament

I feel the problem is not much in studying the books but in "Understanding" what those books convey . Right now I am reading a book called "How to  read a book "  by Mr Mortimer  J Adler :) and only after I came across this book, I realized how mush I missed out in the art of Reading . This book talks about difference between reading for information and reading for Understanding . Reading with Variable speed , different approaches whiles reading books of Science , Economics , Philosophy , Politics , History , Biography , Religion , Spirituality etc Of course here books means not just novels ,works of fiction etc but books written by people who are experts in their respective fields . Anyway better late than ever I feel  :)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 20, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
yes agree sir.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 20, 2012, 06:13:04 PM
Dear Atmavichar100,

Spiritual Books can be studied to a limited extent covering bhakti and jnana. There is no need to read
books unlimitedly. If one is young, one can read novels and non fiction to some extent as for a change. Otherwise one
need not read many many spiritual books. It is of no use. Sri Bhagavan says in Who am I? : If all books speak only about
mano nigraha, one need not read books to a large extent.

Arunachala Siva.
 
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 20, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
Dear Atmavichar 100,

Saint Tayumanavar says:

My guru told me to see 'realize' with grace, I however tried to see through my knowledge of books. I found only darkness.
I did not even understand me. 

அருளால் எவையும்பார் என்றான் - அத்தை
      அறியாதே சுட்டிஎன் அறிவாலே பார்த்தேன்
இருளான பொருள்கண்ட தல்லால்-கண்ட
      என்னையுங் கண்டிலன் என்னேடி தோழி - சங்கர 13.


Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 21, 2012, 01:58:05 AM
The Ego (contd)

To say 'I am not the body' but 'I am the Self ' is still not correct. There is no thought of 'I' in true Being.

The personality (antahkarana) is a medium. It is what we call the sukshuma (subtle body) and acts as a medium between the body and the Self. It can turn to the body or to the Self, merging into either.
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: atmavichar100 on November 21, 2012, 06:45:22 AM
Dear Atmavichar100,

Spiritual Books can be studied to a limited extent covering bhakti and jnana. There is no need to read
books unlimitedly. If one is young, one can read novels and non fiction to some extent as for a change. Otherwise one
need not read many many spiritual books.
It is of no use. Sri Bhagavan says in Who am I? : If all books speak only about
mano nigraha, one need not read books to a large extent.

Arunachala Siva.

Subramaniam Sir

I was here referring to General book reading and not for spiritual awakening . The book that I was referring to "How to read a book" ,teaches reading book as an art and science which we were never at all taught .We were taught just to join the words and read but never how to get involved in a book and draw the wisdom of the same . This need not be applied to fiction / story books but to Other books written by authors who are expert in the field of Literature ,Science , History , Politics ,Religion ,Philosophy etc . They have nothing to do with Atma Vichara and I am aware of that and I was talking with respect to Secular Knowledge enrichment .

Coming to Atma Vichara :

I feel for a  mature seeker , nothing much is required . Even in the traditional Advaita Path ,I remember one Traditional Teacher of Classical Advaita Saying that though traditionally one needs to study Bhagavad Gita , 10 Upanishads and Brahma Sutra , yet for a mature seeker a simple small Upanishad like Keno Upansihad is enough to give clarity and he can go away after getting his answer from that Upansihad and he need not spend time reading all the other texts .
My take is simple :It does not matter what you read or what you do not read - have you got the answer that you are searching for ? Has it given you clarity or are you still continuing to search for answers ? I feel each Individual must answer this for himself .

Om Peace
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Post by: Subramanian.R on November 21, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
Dear atmavichar100,

I agree. After all questioning, there comes a stage, where Who am I? becomes an answerless question.  Then 'idam' disappears
and 'tat' appears which is unanalyzable.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: Nagaraj on November 21, 2012, 10:05:49 AM
I agree. After all questioning, there comes a stage, where Who am I? becomes an answerless question.  Then 'idam' disappears
and 'tat' appears which is unanalyzable.

Even the one that remains to see the answer-less question merges, there is neither question nor answer, just Self Presence, swa-prakAsha - Self Illuminating, which is both the drik and drishya - seer and seen.

As Bhagavan as said, "I saw the seer disappearing and That alone which stands for ever. No thought arose to say "I saw". How then could the thought arise to say "I did not see?" Who has the power to explain all this in words, when even You (as Dakshinamurti) conveyed this of yore in silence only?"

nAnudiyAdulla nilai, nAm aduvAyulla nilai - 'That’ we are, when ‘I’ has not arisen.

As jnyAnEshwar says, the question and answer, that is knowledge and ignorance die together -

Both the husband
And the wife lose their lives
When each cuts off the other’s head.

knowledge too does not remain, like the campher analogy, burns itself out and leaves absolutely no trace of anything.

Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 22, 2012, 12:37:58 PM
The Ego (contd)

Let us discover if all thoughts can be traced to one thought as their base of operations. Do you not see that the thought or idea of "I" -- the idea of personality -- is that root thought? The "I"-thought is not pure: it is contaminated by association with the body and senses. See to whom the trouble is, then the other thoughts will cease.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 24, 2012, 01:12:09 AM
Q: Yes, but how to do it, that is the whole problem?

M: Think, "I-I-I" and hold onto that one thought to the exclusion of all others.

The ego has its source in the Self and is not separate from it. Hence, the ego must be retraced in order for it to merge in its source. The core of the ego is called the Heart.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 27, 2012, 01:30:40 AM
Q: From where does the ego arise?

M: Soul, mind, ego are mere words. There are no true entities of the kind. Consciousness is the only truth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 27, 2012, 01:39:09 AM
Q: Are ego and the Self the same?

M: Self can be without the ego, but the ego cannot be without the Self. Egos are like bubbles in the ocean. Impurities and worldly attachments affect only the ego; the Self remains pure and unaffected. When the individual goes, the desires also go.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 28, 2012, 12:35:30 PM
Q: How to get rid of egoism?

M: Just see it for what it really is, that will be enough. It is the ego itself which makes an effort to get rid of itself, so how can it die? If the ego is to go, then something else must kill it. Will it ever consent to commit suicide? So first realize what the true nature of the ego is and it will go of its own accord. Examine the nature of the ego: that is the process of realization. If one sees what one's real nature is, that itself will get rid of the ego. Until then, it is just like chasing one's own shadow; the more one advances the more distant is the shadow. If we leave our own Self, then the ego will manifest itself. If we seek our true nature, then ego dies. If we are in our own reality, then we need not trouble about the ego.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 29, 2012, 12:26:52 PM
M: Seek your source. Find out where the thought "I" springs from. What object can we be surer of and know more certainly than our Self? This is direct experience and cannot be described further.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 30, 2012, 01:03:19 PM
M: If the present "I" goes, the mind is known for what it is -- a myth. What remains is the pure Self. In deep sleep the Self exists without the perception of the body or the world, and happiness reigns.
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Post by: ramanaduli on December 01, 2012, 07:08:35 AM
Dear sir,

After the sleep, who express the happiness. To express our feeling we need mind's fuction. Is not it?


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on December 01, 2012, 09:37:40 AM
Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes. The happiness that one gets in sleep needs a mind to tell that one has slept nicely. However, the Bliss (which is not happiness,
but million times more than happiness) does not require a mind. It is experiential. There is no need for mind to be there.

Arunachala Siva.     
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 03, 2012, 02:02:28 PM
Q: Do memory, sleep and death affect the "I?"

M: These three attributes and modes pertain to the false ego. There is confusion due to non-differentiation between the false "I" and real "I."
Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 04, 2012, 12:34:12 PM
M: Vivekachudamani (a spiritual work by Sri Shankara, a 7th century sage, founder of the Swami Order in India) makes it clear that the artificial "I" of the intellect (vijnana kosha) is a projection, and that one must look through it to the true principle of "I."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 05, 2012, 01:44:53 AM
Q: What is the ego-self?

M: The ego appears and disappears; it is transitory, whereas the real Self abides permanently. The mind is of the ego and the ego rises from the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 06, 2012, 12:51:48 PM
The sacred bull (Nandi) represents the ego (jiva). It is always shown in our temples facing the deity, and with a flat circular stone at its rear. This stone altar is where sacrifices are offered (1) and it all symbolizes that the ego must be sacrificed and always be turned towards the inner Self (or God).

(1) According to the Gita, anything offered to God without motive is termed a "sacrifice."

Learn what the jiva is. What is the difference between jiva (ego) and Atman (Self)? Is jiva itself Atman, or is there any separate thing as Atman?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 07, 2012, 12:33:07 PM
Q: What is prostration?

M: It means the subsidence of ego.

Q: What is subsidence?

M: To merge into the Source. God cannot be deceived by outward genuflection and bowing. He sees if the ego is there or not.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 10, 2012, 12:43:40 PM
Q: Once I was very self-reliant, but in old age I am afraid. People laugh at me.

M: Even when you said you were self-reliant, it was not so -- you were ego-reliant. If you let the ego go, you will achieve real Self-reliance. Your pride was merely the pride of the ego. So long as you identify yourself with the ego, you will perceive others as individuals too, and then there will be room for pride. Let that drop, and you will drop others' egos too, leaving no more room for pride.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 11, 2012, 02:12:21 PM
M: So long as there is a sense of separation, one will be afflicted by thoughts. If the original source is regained and the sense of separation is ended, there will be peace. Consider what happens when a stone is thrown up: it leaves its source, is projected up, tries to come down but is always in motion until it regains its source where it is at rest.

Or look at the waters of the ocean: they evaporate, form clouds, which are blown about by winds, condense into water, and fall as rain. The waters roll down the hilltops in streams and rivers until they reach their original source, the ocean, at which point they are at peace. Thus you see that where there is a sense of separation from the source, there is agitation and movement until the sense of separation is lost. So it is with yourself. Now you identify yourself with your body, and think that you are separate.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 12, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
M: You must regain your source before this false identification can cease, and you can be happy. Gold is not an ornament, but the gold ornament is nothing but gold. Whatever shape the ornaments are, there is only one reality, i.e. gold. It is the same with our bodies and the Self. Reality is the Self. To identify oneself with the body and yet seek happiness, is like attempting to ford a lake on the back of an alligator. The identification with the body is due to extroversion and the wandering of the mind. To continue in that state will only keep one in an endless tangle and there will be no peace. Seek your source, merge in the Self and remain as one.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 13, 2012, 12:42:58 PM
M: The body is a necessary adjunct of the ego. If the ego is killed the eternal Self is revealed in all its glory. The body is the cross, and Jesus the Son of Man is the ego, or the "I am the body" idea. When he is crucified he is resurrected, a glorious Self, Jesus, the Son of God! "Give up this life if thou wouldst live." (1)

(1) This quotation appears in all four Gospels of the Bible, e.g. Matthew 10:39.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 14, 2012, 12:31:45 PM
Q: What of evil conditions, birth and death, for instance?

M: First the ego comes in; its sprouting is our birth, but really we do not die.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 15, 2012, 12:21:34 PM
One must develop deep detachment. There is no use renouncing some food or drink, to which you have become bound, when you hear a discourse, or when some religious text is expounded within hearing. Detach yourself from all that keeps you away from God. Spend more time on meditation or namasmarana, for peace and joy are not to be found in external nature; they are treasures lying hidden in the inner realms of each and everyone. Once they are located, one can never again be sad or agitated. With every inhalation, utter the Name of the Lord. With every exhalation, utter the Name of the Lord. Use this splendid and precious chance in your life to the fullest. Live in God, for Him and with Him.

- Baba

Thought for the day as written at Prasanthi Nilayam today
15th December 2012
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 17, 2012, 01:23:48 PM
M: It is wrong to say "we see" for if you try to find out who sees, that seer disappears. "I" is the subject and all other thoughts comprise the object, that is mind.

Were you aware when you were fast asleep last night? No! What is it that now exists and troubles you? It is the "I." Get rid of it and be happy.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 18, 2012, 12:43:38 PM
M: The ego-ridden mind has its strength sapped and is too weak to resist the torturing thoughts. The egoless mind is happy in deep, dreamless sleep. Clearly, therefore, bliss and misery are only modes of mind, but the weak mode is not easily exchanged for the strong mode. Activity is weakness and consequently is miserable; passivity is strength and therefore blissful. The dormant strength is not apparent and therefore we do not avail ourselves of it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 19, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
Creation is to be considered in two aspects: the Creator and the individual soul. It is the latter, which causes pain and pleasure irrespective of the former. Pain and pleasure have no reference to fact, but only to mental concepts. Kill the personality and there will be no pain or pleasure, but only the natural Bliss which persists eternally.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 20, 2012, 12:58:19 PM
Q: What happens to the created ego after the body dies?

M: Ego is the "I"-thought. In its subtle form it remains a thought, whereas in its gross aspect it embraces mind, senses and the body. They disappear in deep sleep along with the ego, but still the Self remains. It will be the same in death. Ego is not an entity independent of the Self in order that it might be created or destroyed by itself. It functions as an instrument of the Self and periodically ceases to function, i.e. it appears and disappears as birth and death.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 21, 2012, 04:18:30 PM
Q: How can I control the mind?

M: The mind is intangible. In fact, it does not exist. The surest way is to seek it, then its activities will cease.

Seek the mind. On being sought, it will disappear. The mind is only a bundle of thoughts. The thoughts arise because there is a thinker. The thinker is the ego. The ego, if sought, will vanish automatically. The ego and the mind are the same. The ego is the root-thought from which all other thoughts arise. Dive within. You are now aware that the mind rises from within. So sink within and seek. You need not eliminate the wrong "I." How can "I" eliminate itself? All that you need do is to find its origin and abide there. That is as far as your efforts can extend. Then the Beyond will take care of itself. You are helpless there; no effort can reveal it.
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Post by: ramanaduli on December 21, 2012, 07:56:43 PM
You are helpless.... Yes. it is a fact. We are helpless in worldly matter as well as in spiritual matter. But the ego does not let us to accept our failure.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 24, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Our analyses are ended, that is, so far as the intellect goes, but they are not enough. Eliminating the "not I" is not enough. The process is only intellectual. The truth cannot be directly pointed out, hence the process. Now begins the real inner quest. The "I"-thought is the root to be sought now at its source. Find out who it is and abide there.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 27, 2012, 01:06:17 AM
Q: Should one keep a goal before one's eyes?

M: What goal is there? The thing you conceive as being the goal, exists even before the ego. If we conceive ourselves as ego, or body, or mind, then we are those things. But if we do not conceive ourselves as such, then we are our real nature. It is the thinking which gives rise to such troubles. The very thought that there is such a thing as ego is wrong, because ego is "I"-thought and we are ourselves the real "I." The thoughtless state is itself realization.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 28, 2012, 11:25:20 AM
The Vedas' declaration, "I am not this or that," is only an aid to gain equanimity of mind. If there were a goal to be reached, it could not be permanent. What is called a "goal" is already there. What is in the goal exists even prior to our birth, that is, the birth of the ego. Because we exist, as is, the ego appears to exist too.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 31, 2012, 02:33:14 PM
If we look on the Self as the ego, then we are the ego, if as the mind, we are the mind, if as the body, we are the body. Looking at the shadow on the water, we see it is shaking. Can anyone stop it shaking? If it stopped shaking, you would not notice the water but only the light. Therefore take no notice of the ego and its activities, but see only the light behind. Look at your Self. The ego is the "I"- thought. The true "I" is the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 03, 2013, 01:00:41 AM
Q: Is the analytic process merely intellectual or does feeling predominate?

M: The latter.

The personal "I" is a reflection of the real Self in the mind. Ask yourself the question, "Who am I?" The body and its functions are not "I." Inquire further. The senses and their functions are not "I." Going deeper, the mind and its functions are not "I." The next step is the question, "From where do these thoughts arise?" Thoughts are spontaneous, superficial or analytical. Who is aware of them? Their existence and operations become evident to the individual. Analysis leads to the conclusion that individuality operates as awareness of the existence of thoughts. This is ego. Inquire further, "Who is this 'I' and where does it come from?" Do sleep analysis. "I am" underlies the three states -- sleep, waking and dream.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 04, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
After discarding all that is not-Self, we find the residue -- the Self Absolute. Both world and ego are objective and must be eliminated in the analysis. Eliminating the unreal, the Real survives. To accomplish this, eliminate the mind, which is the creator of the dualistic idea and of ego. Mind is one form of life manifestation.

The individual cannot exist without the Self, but the Self can exist without the individual.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 07, 2013, 12:40:55 PM
Q: Is this method quicker than developing qualities thought to be necessary for salvation?

M: All bad qualities are tied up in the ego. When the ego is gone, realization is self-evident.
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Post by: sanjaya_ganesh on January 07, 2013, 12:56:20 PM
Q: Is this method quicker than developing qualities thought to be necessary for salvation?

M: All bad qualities are tied up in the ego. When the ego is gone, realization is self-evident.

Prashanth ji

This gives an impression that only bad qualities are tied to ego and not good qualities. Because what is quoted above is partial answer from Bhagawan :). Full answer is as below where Bhagawan clarifies that all qualities are from ego. Just an addendeum to above. It is good to quote the full answer from talks - as Bhagawan's each word has a meaning. Thanks for this effort though.

D.: This method seems to be quicker than the usual one of cultivating qualities alleged necessary for salvation (sadhana chatushtaya)?

M.: Yes. All bad qualities centre round the ego. When the ego is gone Realisation results by itself. There are neither good nor bad qualities in the Self. The Self is free from all qualities. Qualities pertain to the mind only. It is beyond quality. If there is unity, there will also be duality. The numeral one gives rise to other numbers. The truth is neither one nor two. IT is as it is.


Source : http://www.messagefrommasters.com/Ebooks/Ramana_Maharshi_Books/talks_with_sri_ramana_maharshi_complete.pdf

Sanjay
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 07, 2013, 01:00:34 PM
Dear Sanjay garu,

Yes your quote is complete and apt sir.

Title: Re: Daily Message From AHAM (The Association of Happiness for All Mankind)
Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 08, 2013, 12:56:47 AM
Q: What is the object of one's life?

M: The object is to understand who is that "I" contained in your "my."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 09, 2013, 02:54:59 PM
Q: I realize intellectually that I am part of the great "I," the Universe.

M: Then are there two "I"s? Realize that you are not part, but the whole.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 10, 2013, 01:02:11 PM
Q: What is the reason of this apparent duality of selves which exists?

M: When you are sound asleep, do you think of duality, part or whole? Duality exists only when you are awake. What became of the world when you were asleep? That "I" existed in all three states, and it is that which you want to know. The thoughts about life's purpose or purposelessness do not arise and trouble you during sleep.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 11, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
There was once an elephant who was often teased by its keeper. One day the keeper had an accident and fell. The elephant could have killed him on the spot, but it did not. Later, however, the keeper dug a big pit in the forest and killed the elephant. Chudala used this story (1) to illustrate Sikhidhvaja's error. Even as a king, Sikhidhvaja had vairagya
(dispassion) and could have realized the Self if only he had pushed his vairagya to the point of sacrificing the ego. But he did not, and instead went to the forest and followed a strict regime of tapas (austerities) for eighteen years. Even after all this effort he did not improve. He had made himself a victim of his own creation. Chudala advised him to give up the ego and realize the Self, which he did and was emancipated. It is clear from Chudala's story that vairagya accompanied by ego is of no value, whereas having possessions in the absence of ego does not matter.

(1) From Yoga Vasishta; Queen Chudala attained realization before her husband and became his teacher after assuming the form of a rishi [sage (named Agastya)].
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 14, 2013, 01:41:35 PM
Q: I want to find the real "I" and always be effortlessly in touch.

M: It is enough that you give up the Individual "I" and no effort will be needed to gain the real "I." Do not think that there is any such difference between you and the Self; then surrender yourself to Him, merge yourself in Him. There should be no reservations, as you cannot cheat God.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 15, 2013, 12:35:26 PM
Q: How can I get rid of fear?

M: What is fear? It is only a thought. When there is nothing besides the Self, there is no reason to fear. Who sees anything else? The ego arises first and sees an object; if the ego does not exist then the Self alone does, and there cannot be a second. On finding the source within, there will be no doubt, no fear, and all other thoughts centering around the ego will disappear along with the ego. Weakness or strength are in the mind. The Self is beyond mind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 16, 2013, 12:51:20 PM
Q: How can I develop?

M: Why go on pruning the ego? That is just what it wants -- to be the center of attraction.

The false ego is associated with objects; the subject alone is the reality. The world is seen in the light reflected by the mind. The moon shines by the reflected light of the sun. When the sun has set, the moon is useful for seeing things, but when the sun rises no one needs the moon, even though it is visible in the sky. So it is with the mind and Heart. The mind is used for seeing objects.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 17, 2013, 12:42:07 PM
The Self is there whether you search for it or not. The cessation of false identification reveals the Self which is eternally existing. This is called realization. The blankness is the evil result of searching the mind. The mind must be erased out of existence. See who the thinker is, who the seeker is. Then abide as the thinker, the seeker, and all thoughts will then disappear. That ego is pure ego purged of thoughts. It is the same as the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 18, 2013, 12:26:09 PM
I AM is the ocean and the individual egos are bubbles in it. Bubbles pass away.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 21, 2013, 12:39:19 AM
The Three States

The states of deep sleep, waking and dream are accretions of the ego; the Self is the witness of all. The Self transcends them all. This Witness-Consciousness should be found. In the Self there are not three states: no waking no sleeping, no deep sleep. It is ever there.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 22, 2013, 01:12:48 PM
The Three States

In sleep, in trance, in absent-mindedness, there is no differentiation. Is that which was absent then, now present? The difference is due to mind. The mind is sometimes present and at other times absent; there is no change in the Reality. It is the same person who was in sleep who is now awake. Limitation is only in the mind. The Self is the same throughout. The Self exists in the absence of mind also.
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Post by: ramanaduli on January 23, 2013, 08:16:20 AM
Dear sir,

Is this the same mind says, I am agnanai and gnani.?In that sense every one is enlightened one!


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 23, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
Q: Is there any genuine difference between dream experience and the waking state?

M: Because you find the dream creations transitory in relation to the waking state, there is said to be a difference. The difference is only apparent and not real.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 24, 2013, 12:19:12 PM
Q: What is deep sleep?

M: Just as on a dark cloudy night no individual identification is possible and there is only darkness, even though the seer has his eyes wide open, similarly in deep slumber the seer is only aware of simple nescience.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 25, 2013, 12:09:55 AM
Q: Why can't we stay in deep sleep for ever or enter it at will?

M: Deep sleep also exists in the waking state. We are always in deep sleep. That should be consciously understood and realized. There is really no going or coming from it. Becoming aware of the deep sleep state while in the waking state is samadhi. It is nature, i.e. prarabdha (that part of karma being worked out in this life), which forces you to emerge from it. Your ego is not dead and will rise again and again.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 28, 2013, 12:16:12 AM
Q: Is the waking state independent of existing objects?

M: If it were, the objects would have to exist without the seer, that is, the object must tell you that it exists. And does it? For example, does a cow moving in front of you tell you that she is moving, or do you say of your own accord, "There goes a cow?" The objects exist because the seer is cognizing them.
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Post by: ramanaduli on January 28, 2013, 07:10:33 AM
Dear sirs,

Even though there are lots of objects are lying in front of the "SEER" can see one thing or understand one thing at a time. Why the seer cannot see everything. But gnani can see.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 29, 2013, 12:44:46 AM
Q: Why is there no meditation during dream? Is it possible?

M: Ask it in the dream! You are told to meditate now and to ask who you are. Instead of doing it you ask such a question. It is the same person who dreams, sleeps and awakens. You are the witness of both -- they pass before you. Because you are out of meditation now, such questions arise.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 30, 2013, 12:53:08 PM
Q: What happens to the consciousness of a realized one in sleep?

M: Such a question arises only in the minds of the unrealized. A jnani (one who has realized the Self)) has only one state, which is unbroken throughout the 24 hours, whether in what you call sleeping or waking. As a matter of fact, the majority of people are asleep, because they are not awake to the Self.

In the deep sleep state we lay down our ego, our thoughts and our desires. If we could only do all this while we are conscious, we would realize the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 31, 2013, 12:13:20 AM
The best form of dhyana or meditation is when it continues not merely while awake, but extends to dream and deep sleep states. The meditation must be so intense that there is not even room for the idea, "I am meditating." As waking and dreaming are fully occupied by the dhyana (meditation) of such a person deep sleep may be considered to be part of the dhyana.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 31, 2013, 11:42:54 PM
Q: If sleep is such a good state, why don't we always want to be in it?

M: One is always in sleep. The present waking state is no more than a dream and dream can take place only in sleep. Sleep underlies these three states. The display of these three states is again a dream which is also in sleep. In this way, these states of dream and sleep are endless. Similar to these states, birth and death are also dreams in a sleep. Truly speaking, there is really no birth and no death.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 04, 2013, 12:45:24 AM
After sleep, ego rises up and there is wakefulness. Simultaneously thoughts arise. Where do they come from? They must spring from the conscious Self. Apprehending it even vaguely helps the extinction of ego, after which comes realization of the One Infinite Existence. In that state there are no individuals other than the eternal Existence. Abide in the ever-inherent Self and be free from the idea of birth, or the fear of death.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 04, 2013, 11:49:07 PM
Q: Does Bhagavan not see the world?

M: Whom do you mean by Bhagavan?

Q: A jiva (individual being) more advanced than 1.

M: If you understand your jiva (being), the other jiva is also understood.

Q: I do not want to discuss, I want to learn. Please instruct me.

M: Because you desire to learn, discussion is unavoidable.

Leave all this aside. Consider your sleep. Are you aware of bondage? Do you seek means for release? Are you aware of the body itself? The sense of bondage is associated with the body. Otherwise there is no bondage, no material to bind one with, and no one to be bound. These appear, however, in your waking state. Consider to whom they appear.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 06, 2013, 12:59:21 AM
Q: Ecstatic experience implies the association with a very subtle mind-state. What is your state in sleep?

M: No ecstasy or pain, but beyond both. The natural state is just that, with consciousness of existence added.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 06, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
Q: What is turiya (fourth state beyond waking, dreaming, sleeping)?

M: Turiya is mind in quiescence and aware of Self, with awareness that the mind has merged in its source. Whether the senses are active or inactive is immaterial. In nirvikalpa samadhi (a very high state of transcendental awareness) the senses are inactive. To know, implies subject and object. To be aware means to be thought-free
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 08, 2013, 12:38:01 AM
Q: I consider sleep a worse state than waking.

M: If it were so, why does everyone desire sleep?

There are different methods of approach to prove the unreality of the universe. The example of the dream is one of them. Jagrat (waking state), swapna (dream state) and sushupti (dreamless sleep) are all treated elaborately in the scriptures in order that the reality underlying them might be revealed. The intention is not meant to accentuate differences among the three states. Their purpose must be kept clearly in view.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 11, 2013, 12:39:58 AM
The scriptures use the three states: jagrat (waking state), swapna (dream state) and sushupti (dreamless sleep) to indicate that the world is unreal --but to what degree (is it unreal)? Is it like the son of a barren mother, or a flower in the sky? These are mere words without any reference to facts, whereas the world is a fact and not a mere word.

The answer is that it is a superimposition on the One Reality, like the appearance of a snake on a coiled rope in dim light. Here too the wrong identity ceases as soon as a friend points out that it is a rope, whereas in the matter of the world, it persists even after we have been told it is unreal. How is that? The appearance of water in a mirage persists after the fact that it is a mirage has dawned on us. So it is with the world. Though knowing it to be unreal, it continues to manifest -- but we do not try to satisfy our thirst with the water of the mirage. As soon as one knows that it is a mirage, one gives it up as useless and does not run after it to get water.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 12, 2013, 12:01:34 AM
Q: It is not so with the appearance of the world. Even after it is repeatedly declared to be false a person cannot avoid satisfying their wants from the world. How can the world be false?

M: It is like a person satisfying their dream wants by dream creations. There are objects, there are wants, and there are mutual satisfactions. The dream creations are as purposeful as the waking world and yet are not considered real. Thus we see that all these illustrations serve a purpose in establishing the stages of unreality. The realized sage finally declares that in the regenerate state, the jagrat (waking), state is also real. Each illustration should be understood in its proper context; it should not be studied as an isolated statement. It is a link in a chain. The purpose of all these illustrations is to direct the seeker's mind towards the one Reality underlying them all.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 13, 2013, 12:30:21 AM
Q: Unlike the waking world, the dream world is not purposeful because we do not feel that our wants are satisfied.

M: You are not right. We can experience thirst and hunger in dream as well. You might have had your fill in the waking state and kept the leftovers. Nevertheless, you feel hungry in your dream. This food does not help you, and your dream hunger can be satisfied only by eating the dream creations.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 14, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
Q: Why is it that we remember dreams when awake, but not the reverse?

M: You are wrong. You are yourself in the dream and identify yourself as the same as the one now speaking.

Q: But we do not know that we are dreaming, whereas in waking we do.

M: The dream is a combination of waking with deep sleep. It is due to the samskaras (conditioned tendencies) of the waking state; hence we remember dreams. Samskaras are not found in dreams, so we are not aware that we are dreaming. Still, everyone recollects strange perplexities in dreams when one wonders if one is awake or dreaming. One may even argue that one is awake, but only once we are really awake will we find it was all only a dream.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 14, 2013, 11:51:49 PM
Q: Is there any real distinction between dream and waking?

M: Only an apparent one, not a real one. The dream is for one who says that he is awake. Both are unreal from the absolute viewpoint.

The ego arises when you wake up from sleep. In sleep you do not say that you are sleeping; you say it only when you wake up. But you are still there. You were not concerned with the body when asleep, so you can continue to be unconcerned.

In the waking state, ego identified itself with the physical body, and in dream, with the subtle mind. At that time the perceptions are also subtle.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 18, 2013, 12:50:20 AM
Q: What is the difference between fainting and sleep?

M: Sleep is sudden and overpowers the person forcibly. A faint is slower and there is a tingle of resistance to it. Realization is possible in a faint and impossible in sleep.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 18, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
Q: Is it possible to be conscious without thought?

M: Yes. There is only one Consciousness. In sleep there is no "I." The "I"-thought arises on waking and then the world appears. Where was this "I" in sleep? Was it there or not? It must have been there, yet not in the way you feel now. The present is only the "I"-thought, whereas the sleeping "I" is the real "I." That subsists throughout. That is Consciousness. If that is known, you will see that it is beyond thoughts. Thoughts can be like other activities, not disturbing the supreme Consciousness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 20, 2013, 12:34:02 AM
Q: On Inquiry into the origin of thoughts, there is a perception of "I," but it does not satisfy me.

M: Quite right. The perception of "I" is associated with a form, maybe the body. There should be nothing associated with the pure Self. The Self is the unassociated pure Reality, in whose light the body, the ego, etc, shine. On stilling all thoughts, the pure Consciousness remains.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 21, 2013, 12:53:23 PM
M: At the time of waking up from sleep and before becoming aware of the world, there is that pure "I-I." Hold onto it without sleeping, and without allowing thoughts to possess you. If That is held firm, it does not matter even if the world is seen; the seer will remain unaffected by the phenomena.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 21, 2013, 10:59:58 PM
M: If there were not the activities of waking-thoughts and dream-thoughts, there would not be the corresponding worlds, i.e., no perception of them. In deep sleep there are no such activities, and the world does not then exist for us.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 25, 2013, 01:55:35 AM
M: In dreamless sleep there is no world, no ego, and no unhappiness, but the Self remains. In the waking state there are all these, and there is (also) the Self. One has only to remove the transitory happenings in order to realize the ever-present beatitude of the Self (that underlies all the happenings in the waking state). Your nature is Bliss. Find that on which all the rest are superimposed and you will then remain as the pure Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 25, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
A woman wanted to renounce the world after the death of her son.

M: Recall the state of sleep. Were you aware of anything happening? If the son or the world were real, wouldn't they be present with you in sleep? You cannot deny your existence in sleep, nor can you deny that you were happy there. Yet you are the same person now speaking and raising doubts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 27, 2013, 01:01:27 AM
You say you are not happy. But you were happy in sleep. What has transpired in the meantime that the happiness of sleep has broken down? It is the ego. And that arises with the waking state. There was no ego in sleep. The birth of the ego is called the birth of the person. There is no other birth. Whatever is born is bound to die. Kill the ego! There is no fear of death for that which is already dead. The Self remains after the death of the ego. That is Bliss that is immortality.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 28, 2013, 11:08:36 AM
Q: How do we sleep and awaken?

M: Just as at nightfall the hen crows and the chicks hide in her wings, the hen then roosts in the nest with the chicks under her protection. In the dawn, the chicks come out and so does the hen. In the same way, the mother symbolizes the ego, which collects all the thoughts and goes to sleep. At sunrise, they emerge again. Thus, when the ego displays itself it does so with all its components; when it sinks everything disappears with it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 01, 2013, 12:14:23 PM
Q: Is it the body that goes to sleep when tired?

M: But does the body sleep or wake up? You yourself said before that the mind is quiet in sleep. The three states are of the mind. The Self is always uncontaminated. It is the substance running through all these three states. The waking state passes away, "I am" remains; the dream-state passes away, "I am" remains; the sleep state passes away, "I am" remains; they repeat; still I AM.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 04, 2013, 01:29:36 PM
M: The (three) states are like pictures moving on the screen in a cinema show. They do not affect the screen. Similarly here: I am (is) unaffected though these states come and go. As for the body, are you aware of it in sleep? Without knowing the body to be there, how can it be said to exist in sleep? The sense of body is a thought, the thought is of the mind, the mind rises after the "I"-thought; the "I"-thought is the root-thought. If that is held the other thoughts will disappear. There will then be no body, no mind, not even the ego, only the Self in its purity.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 05, 2013, 01:14:37 PM
You who slept, are also now awake. There was no unhappiness in your sleep, whereas it is present now. What is it that has happened now, that this difference is experienced? There was no "I"-thought in your sleep, whereas it is present now. The true "I" is not apparent and the false "I" is parading. This false "I" is the obstacle to your right knowledge. Find out from where this false "I" arises. It will disappear. You will be only what you are -- i.e. absolute Being. Search for the source of the "I"-thought. That is all one has to do. The Universe is on account of the "I"-thought. If that ends, misery will also end.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 06, 2013, 12:37:17 PM
Q: Can the soul remain without a body?

M: It will do so during the next deep sleep. The Self is then bodiless. But even now it is so.

In deep sleep you exist without ego; then you are free of doubts. Only now, in the waking state, ego rises and you have doubts. In deep sleep, you are happy; in the waking state, you are unhappy. Find out what that state of deep sleep is, from which you have come.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 07, 2013, 01:02:20 PM
Q: How can I remove ignorance?

M: While lying asleep in Tiruvannamalai, you dream of finding yourself in another town. Can another town enter your room? Or could you have left home and gone elsewhere? No, both are impossible. Both are unreal, but they appear real to the mind. On waking the "I" of the dream vanishes and another "I" speaks of the dream. Both are unreal; it is the substratum of the mind that continues all along, which gives rise to so many scenes. Many "I's" are born and die every moment. The subsisting mind is the real trouble. Find that and you will be happy.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 08, 2013, 12:36:12 PM
Q: Can you help me to get rid of maya (illusion)?

M: What is maya?

Q: Attachment to the world.

M: Was the world present in your sleep? Was there attachment to it?

Q: No, there was not.

M: Were you there or not?

Q: Yes, I was.

M: You are therefore the same one who was in sleep.

Q: Yes.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 11, 2013, 01:08:06 AM
M: What is it then that now raises the question of maya (illusion)?

Q: There was no mind in sleep, so the world only exists for the mind?

M: Yes. The pure Self is simple being. It does not associate itself with objects and become conscious (in the same way) as it does in the waking state. What you now call consciousness, in the present state, is "associated consciousness" depending upon the brain, the mind and the body, etc. But in sleep, that (pure) consciousness persisted without these.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 12, 2013, 12:38:17 PM
Q: But I do not know the sleep consciousness!

M: Who is not aware of it? You admit "I am." You admit "I was" in sleep. The state of "being" is your Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 13, 2013, 12:59:02 AM
Q: Do you mean to say that sleep is Self-realization?

M: It is Self. Why do you talk of realization? Is there a moment when the Self is not realized? Why pick out sleep for it? Even now you are Self-realized.

Q: But I don't understand it!

M: Because you are identifying the Self with the body. Give up this wrong identification and the Self is revealed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 14, 2013, 12:29:17 AM
Q: But this does not answer my question to help me get rid of maya (illusion) i.e. attachment.

M: This attachment to the world is not found in sleep. It is perceived and felt now. It is not your real nature. To whom is this accretion? It does not exist once the real nature is known. Maya is not an object that can be got rid of in any other way.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 15, 2013, 05:26:43 PM
Q: I do not understand your reference to dream and mental illusion.

M: Our experience of the world is evoked and dissolved by the mind. When you travel from India to London, does your body really move? No! It is the conveyance that moves, and your body remains inside it without itself traveling. It is the ship and the train that travel.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 18, 2013, 01:02:11 AM
M: Just as these movements are superimposed on your body, so visions, dream-states and even reincarnations are superimposed on your real Self. The latter does not move, and is not affected by all these outward changes, but ever remains still in its own place even as the body remains still in the ship's cabin.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 19, 2013, 12:42:31 AM
M: You are always the same, and hence beyond time and beyond space. In deep sleep, you have no sense of time. The concept of time and space arises only when there is the limitation of "I." Even now, the "I"-thought is both limitless and limited. So long as you think it to be the body, it is limited. At the time of waking up, and before one actually becomes fully aware of the external world, that interval -- timeless, spaceless -- is the state of the true "I."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 20, 2013, 01:29:33 AM
M: Why do your questions not arise in deep sleep? The fact is that you have no limitations in sleep and no question arises. Whereas now, you identify with the body and questions of this kind arise.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 21, 2013, 12:50:05 PM
M: Deep sleep is always present even in the waking state. What we have to do is to bring deep sleep into the waking state to get "conscious sleep." Realization can only take place in the waking state. Deep sleep is relative to the waking state.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 22, 2013, 12:54:18 PM
Can that one Consciousness divide itself into two? Is the division of the Self felt? On waking up from sleep, one finds oneself (to be) the same (Self) as in the sleep states. That is the experience of each person. The difference lies in seeing, (or) in the outlook. Because you imagine that you are the seer, (and) separate from the experience, this difference arises. Experience says that your real Self is the same throughout. Do you feel any difference between external and internal in your sleep? This difference is only with reference to the body and arises with body-consciousness (the "I"-thought).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 25, 2013, 12:33:11 AM
The so-called waking state is itself an illusion. Turn your vision inward then the whole waking state will be seen as maya (illusion). Maya is really sattva (purity).

Even the material sciences trace the origin of the universe to very subtle primordial matter. God is the same, both for those who say the waking state is real, and their opponents. It is their outlooks that are different. There is no need to involve yourself in such disputations. The goal is one and the same for all. Get on with it!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 26, 2013, 01:12:51 AM
Q: Is the state of unconsciousness close to Infinite Being?

M: Consciousness alone exists.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 27, 2013, 01:32:00 PM
Maya and Illusion

M: We read the articles in a newspaper, but do not care to know anything about the paper itself. We take the chaff but not the substance. The substratum on which all this is printed is the paper, and if we know the substratum, all else will be known. The One only is the sat, the existence, it is the paper, whereas the world, the things that we see, and we ourselves are the printed words.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 28, 2013, 12:58:28 AM
Q: What is illusion?

M: Find out to whom the illusion occurs and it will vanish. It is foolish to talk about it for it is outside us and unknown; whereas the seeker is inside and to be known. Find out the immediate and intimate instead of what is distant and unknown.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 29, 2013, 12:59:06 PM
M: This external universe is a cinema show to the realized one. It is free and the performance goes on day and night! The realized one lives and works in it knowing that its objects and bodies (people) are illusory appearances, just as an ordinary person knows the scenes and characters on the cinema screen at a theatre are illusions, and do not exist in real life. But the ordinary person takes the external objects of daily life as real, whereas the realized one sees them only as illusory cinema pictures.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 03, 2013, 05:59:25 AM
M: There is no difference between matter and spirit. Modern science admits that all matter is energy. Energy is shakti (power, divine force). Therefore, all are resolved into Siva (God) and shakti, i.e. Self and mind. The bodies are mere appearances. There is no reality in them as such.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 03, 2013, 06:09:52 AM
M: Vedantins say maya's (illusion) manifestation is the display of the cosmos on pure Consciousness, like images in a mirror. Just as the images cannot remain in the absence of a mirror, so the world cannot have an independent existence. Sri Shankara says that the Absolute is without attributes. What is the difference? Both agree that the display is unreal.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 03, 2013, 06:12:32 AM
Q: Brahman (the Supreme Being) is real, world is illusion (maya), is Sankara's stock phrase. Others say the world is real. What is true?

M: Both. They refer to different stages of development. The aspirant starts with the definition that the Real always exists, and then eliminates the world as unreal because it is changing, and hence cannot be the Real. Ultimately he reaches the Self and there finds unity. Then that which was originally rejected as being unreal, is found to be part of the unity. Being absorbed in the Reality, the world is also real. In realization there is only existence, and nothing but that.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 04, 2013, 12:55:52 PM
M: Regarding maya (illusion), the idea that phenomena are unreal in every sense is to be repudiated, but that alone which is permanent and does not change is worth the name of reality. The world is not real, apart from the hidden reality. Hence it is really the spiritual reality itself in another way. Ananda (bliss) lives in every being.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 05, 2013, 12:46:30 PM
Q: How to get rid of (maya) illusion?

M: Do not try to conquer maya. Be in your real state and maya will go away of its own accord. If you attempt to conquer it, it will lead you into many difficulties.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 08, 2013, 02:12:26 PM
Q: How to get rid of (maya) illusion?

M: Do not try to conquer maya. Be in your real state and maya will go away of its own accord. If you attempt to conquer it, it will lead you into many difficulties.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 08, 2013, 02:31:26 PM
M: Just BE! If you get any other extraneous thoughts, find out who gets them. But whether or not you think that you are the real Self, you are always That. There is so much worry, so many yoga techniques for such a simple patent thing as Self-realization! Why? You are the real Self; how can you be different from It?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 09, 2013, 06:45:35 PM
M: Just BE! If you get any other extraneous thoughts, find out who gets them. But whether or not you think that you are the real Self, you are always That. There is so much worry, so many yoga techniques for such a simple patent thing as Self-realization! Why? You are the real Self; how can you be different from It?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 09, 2013, 06:50:38 PM
Q: You endorse the teaching of maya (illusion), but I cannot reconcile my feeling of this chair's reality with your assertion of its unreality.

M: The root of your difficulty lies in the confused mingling of two separate ideas into one: the "I" and the "body." When you are aware of the chair, it is the thought subsequent to the primal one, "I am the body." "I am the body" is the substratum of all your thoughts of (the) world experience. It arises first; only then can the others follow. That is why when it fails to arise -- as in deep sleep -- the world experience also fails to enter your consciousness. Now of these two ideas, the "I"-thought is the enduring one, and the body-thought is a transient one. This is shown by dreams, where you still have the sense of "I" but no awareness of the physical body. Thus all your bodily experiences and experiences of the world which are linked to them, are nothing other than what enters your mind. This is what I mean when I say that the mind is nothing but thoughts. The "I" is the only real Being because it is the only durable one. Find it after stopping the thoughts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 10, 2013, 12:44:17 PM
Q: Why does maya (illusion) become active?

M: How can this question arise? You are yourself within its fold. Are you standing apart from that universal activity in order to ask this question? The same power is raising this doubt in order that all doubts may finally cease. Maya is only Iswara-shakti (God's power) or the activity of reality.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 11, 2013, 02:58:08 PM
Q: We are ignorant. Tell us the way to cross the ocean of illusion!

The Maharshi did not reply. Half an hour later, the person repeated his question.

M: You say that you know you are ignorant. Indeed, you are the knower of all! And yet, you say that you do not know.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 12, 2013, 12:08:21 PM
Q: What is (phenomenal) existence?

M: It is subject to birth and decay in order to remind us that it is not our true state.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 15, 2013, 12:08:27 PM
The universe exists within the Self. Therefore it is real, but only because it obtains its reality from the Self. We call it unreal however, to indicate its changing appearance and transient form; whereas we call the Self real, because it is changeless.

After realization the body and all else does not appear different from the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 16, 2013, 12:11:15 PM
The illusion of time and space

We talk of attaining the Self or of reaching God, in time. But there is nothing to attain. We are already Self-existent, nor will there ever be a time when we shall be nearer to God than now. We are ever-blissful, Self-existent, the infinite now. Our consciousness is unbroken, continuous and eternal. It is all maya (illusion), self-hypnotism, to imagine that now we are otherwise. Dehypnotize yourself! It is ego, which deludes itself that there are two selves, one which we are conscious of now (the person) and the other--the higher, the divine--of which we shall one day become conscious. This is false. There is only one Self and it is fully conscious now and forever: there is neither past, present nor future for It, since It is out of time.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 17, 2013, 12:11:50 PM
The illusion of time and space

I said to the Maharshi that a certain appointment I had was a waste of time. He smiled.

M: There is no time. How can you waste it?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 18, 2013, 11:54:59 AM
Q: If we want to reach the goal quickly, what can we do?

M: Time is a concept in your mind. The goal always exists (here-now). It is not something new to be discovered. The Absolute is our nature. The trouble comes when you limit yourself.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 19, 2013, 12:04:39 PM
Q: I am going to stay in the East for three or four years this time.

M: Jesus said, "Don't think of the morrow."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 22, 2013, 11:57:47 AM
The Maharshi was presented with some new calendars.

M: You bring a new calendar to help me remember the days, when I often have serious doubts as to what year it is. Time is all one to me.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 23, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
Q: Does distance have any effect on the gurus grace?

M: Time and space are within us. Time is only an idea. There is only the Reality. Whatever your opinions, that is the way it appears. If you call it time, it is time. If you call it existence, it is existence. And some, after calling it time, divide it into days, months and years. The Reality cannot be new. It must exist even now, and it does exist. There is in that state, no present, no past, nor future. It is beyond time. It is ever here.

Sri Krishna says, "I am time." Can time have a shape? Even the universal vision shown by Krishna to Arjuna on the physical plane is absurd. The seer is also in the seen. Even a mesmerist can make one see strange scenes. You call that one a trick, but the other divine. Why this difference? Anything seen cannot be real. That is the truth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 24, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
Q: I may not be able to remain here and so I request Bhagavan's grace.

M: Where are you going? You are not going anywhere. Even supposing you are the body, has your body come from Lucknow to Tiruvannamalai? You simply sat in the car, or one conveyance or another, and it moved, and finally you say that you have come here. The fact is that you are not the body. The Self does not move but the world moves in it. You are only what you are. There is no change in you. So then, even after what looks like departure from here, you are here and there and everywhere. The scenes alone change.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 25, 2013, 12:05:08 PM
All scriptures are only for the purpose of investigating whether there are two "consciousnesses." Everyone's experience proves the existence of only one Consciousness. There is only one Consciousness, but we speak of several kinds -- body-consciousness, self-consciousness, etc. Without Consciousness, time and space do not exist. They appear in Consciousness. The absolute Consciousness is our real nature.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 26, 2013, 01:39:45 AM
The Doctrine of "Mentalism"

'Mentalism -- the theory that physical and psychological phenomena are ultimately only explicable in terms of a creative and interpretive mind.' (OED) For Brunton, the doctrine of mentalism demonstrates that our experience of the world is nothing but our thoughts of it. In short, there is nothing but mind, and the whole world is an appearance in Consciousness.

M: The Universe is only an idea. It is the Heart that takes all these forms. That is called the Atman (Self) wherein no ego or sense of personality remains.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 29, 2013, 01:57:09 AM
M: Appar (a Tamil saint) was decrepit and old, and yet began to travel to Kailash (the Himalayas mountain where Siva lives). Another old man appeared on the way and tried to dissuade him from the attempt, saying that it would be very difficult, but Appar was obstinate. The stranger then asked him to take a dip in a nearby tank (reservoir). Appar did so and found Kailash then and there. Where did this happen? In Tiruvayyar, nine miles from Tanjore. Where is Kailash then? Is it within the mind or outside it? If Tiruvayyar was Kailash it would appear so to others, but Appar alone found it to be so. Similarly, other places of pilgrimage in the South are said to be abodes of Siva. Devotees have found them so, and it is true from their standpoint. Everything is within, there is nothing outside.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 30, 2013, 11:49:47 AM
The spirit wrongly identifies itself with the gross body. The body has been projected by the mind, and the mind itself has originated from the spirit. If the wrong identification ceases, there will be peace and permanent unbroken bliss. Life is existence, which is your Self. That is life eternal. Otherwise, can you imagine a time when you are not? You are life unconditioned. These bodies attach themselves to you as mental projections and you are afflicted by the "I am the body" idea. If this idea ceases, you are your Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 01, 2013, 02:43:20 AM
You exist in sleep even without the body. Upon waking the ego arises, and then the mind comes into existence; it is that which projects the body. You say that it was born and that it will die, and thus transfer it to the Self saying that you were born and that you will die. In fact, in sleep you exist without the body, just as you also exist now along with the body. The Self can exist apart from the body. The thought, "I am the body," is ignorance; that the body is not apart from the Self is therefore knowledge. The body is a mental projection.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 02, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
The body thought is a distraction from the Self. For whom is the body or birth? It is not for the Self, the spirit. It is for the non-self, which imagines itself separate.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 03, 2013, 01:48:36 AM
The body thought is a distraction from the Self. For whom is the body or birth? It is not for the Self, the spirit. It is for the non-self, which imagines itself separate.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 06, 2013, 02:05:16 AM
M: The world is not eternal. The sense impressions cannot have an outer origin because the world can be cognized only by Consciousness. The world does not say it exists, it is you who says it. It is your impression. Yet, this impression is not unbroken. In sleep the world is not cognized; it does not exist for a sleeping person. Therefore, the world is the result of the ego. Find the ego. Its source is the final goal. The world is a result of your mind. Know your mind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 07, 2013, 12:33:41 PM
M: The world is only phenomena appearing on that pure Consciousness. Pure Consciousness is Itself unaffected.

The universe is like a painting on a screen. That which rises and sinks is made up of what it rises from. The finality of the universe is the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 08, 2013, 02:00:28 PM
Q: From where do these objects arise?

M: From the same place you arise! The subject also comprehends the object! That one aspect is an all-comprehensive aspect. See yourself first and then see the objects. What is not in you cannot appear outside.

What is real can never become unreal, and vice versa. The world becomes unreal in sleep, hence it never did possess reality. But Being, the "I," always exists, and hence is always real.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 09, 2013, 02:14:21 AM
Birth and Death

M: Forgetfulness of your real nature is the real death; remembrance of it is the true birth. It puts an end to successive births. Eternal life is then yours. How does the desire for eternal life arise? Because the present state is unbearable. Why? Because, it is not your true nature. Had it been your real nature, there would be no desire to agitate you. How does the present state differ from your real nature? Truly, you are spirit. Human beings consider themselves limited and that is the root of the trouble. The idea is wrong. In sleep there was no world, no ego and no trouble. Something wakes up from that happy state and says "I." To that ego the world appears. It is the rise of the ego that is the cause of the trouble. But trace the ego to its origin, and you will reach that undifferentiated happy source, a state which is sleepless sleep. The Self is ever there; wisdom only appears to dawn, though it is natural.

Conscious death and conscious immortality (while still in the flesh) is the purpose of evolution.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 10, 2013, 01:53:24 AM
Q: What is death?

M: It is in the mind that birth and death, pleasure and pain -- in short, the world and ego -- exist. If the mind is destroyed, all these are destroyed too. Note that it should be annihilated and not just made quiescent. For, the mind is quiescent in sleep and knows nothing. Still, on waking up, you are as you were before. There is no end to grief, but if the mind is destroyed, the grief will have no background and will disappear along with the mind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 13, 2013, 02:56:52 AM
Q: What is death? Cont'd

M: Death is the intervening sleep between two successive births, while sleep intervenes between two waking states and both are transient.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 14, 2013, 02:54:49 AM
M: According to the Sanskrit saying, "A wife is half the body of the husband," no doubt it is a very sad thing for a husband if his wife dies; but if one begins to think in terms of the Atman (the Self) there is no sorrow at all. According to the scriptures, a wife is dear because she pleases her husband by indulging his wishes. So, if all this is for the pleasure of the Atman, where is the sorrow? In spite of this, even people who have had a glimpse of the real knowledge lose their equanimity when such calamities occur. During sleep, one is happy. The Self remains happy in sleep and does not see the wife. But now, in the waking state, the same Self that was happy in sleep enjoys happiness or misery owing to the presence of worldly things. Why shouldn't the happiness enjoyed in sleep by the Self be enjoyed in the waking state also? Identification of the body with Atman is the obstruction to the enjoyment of Bliss.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 15, 2013, 02:31:54 AM
M: That which exists is always present; that which never existed cannot be lost. What is born? What is it that dies? Waking is birth and sleeping is death.

Did your wife accompany you whenever you attended to your duties and during your sleep? No. She was staying separately somewhere else, but then you were thinking that she was alive. Now, after her death, you think that she does not exist. Therefore, the difference is in the kind of thoughts. That is the cause of pain. The thought of the non-existence of your wife results in that which is known as sorrow. The whole thing is the mischief of the mind. Pleasure and pain are all mental creations.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 16, 2013, 12:38:21 PM
M: Why should there be grief for the sake of those who are dead? They have been freed from bondage. The Self creates grief by entering into the thought about the dead person. Why should there be any concern if a person is dead or alive?

You must destroy your personal ego. There is no sorrow at all if one's ego is dead. Disregarding the feeling of "I" while the body lasts, is what is called the annihilation of the ego. If the ego is not annihilated, a person will certainly be afraid of death. One cries for those who are dead, but if the "I" had been annihilated before they died, there would be no need to cry over them.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 17, 2013, 12:29:43 PM
M: Our experience of happiness is only during profound sleep when we have ceased to think of our bodies. Even a jnani (one who has realized the Self) speaks of disembodied liberation. Therefore, a wise one, a jnani, looks forward to casting off his body. Just as a coolie who carries a load on his head feels relieved soon after he reaches his destination and puts it down, so a jnani bides his time until he may cast off this load of his flesh and blood embodiment.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 20, 2013, 01:34:20 AM
M: So, the death of the wife who is termed "half the body of her husband," should relieve the husband of half his load and therefore make him feel happy. But since we perceive these things through our physical senses, it is not considered this way. Even jnanis (the realized), wise though they may be, are perfectly aware of the need of being disembodied for final liberation, yet talk of liberation in the body, thus implying that the body may be made to be eternal.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 21, 2013, 10:42:00 AM
M: There will be no pain if the physical outlook is given up and if the person exists as the Self. Mourning is not the index of true love. True love is shown by the certainty that the object of love is in the Self and that it can never become non-existent. Still it is true, pain on such occasions can only be assuaged by association with the wise.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 22, 2013, 12:38:05 PM
Q: What is death? Is it not the falling away of the body?

M: Do you not desire that in sleep? What goes wrong then?

Q: But I know I shall wake up!

M: Yes, thought again! There is the preceding thought: "I shall wake up." Thoughts rule one's life. Freedom from thoughts is one's true nature: Bliss. Death is a thought and nothing else. One who thinks raises problems. Let the thinker say what happens to him in death. The real "I" is silent. One should not think, "I am this, I am not that." To say "this" or "that" is wrong. They are also limitations. I AM alone is true. Silence is "I."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 23, 2013, 11:33:34 AM
Q: If a loved one dies, grief results. Could we avoid such grief by either loving all alike or by not loving at all?

M: If one dies, there is grief for the other who lives. The way to get rid of grief is not to live. Kill the one who grieves. Who will then remain to suffer? The ego must die. That is the only way. The two alternatives amount to the same state. When all is the Self, who is there to be loved or hated?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 24, 2013, 10:38:13 AM
M: There is no kind of sorrow for those who give up (cease) seeing through their physical senses and begin to see everything as their own Self. Further, this grief does not indicate real love. Love which one displays towards external objects and forms is not real love. Real love always has its abode in one's own Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 27, 2013, 10:40:03 AM
When the news of the death of King George V was brought to the Ashram, Chadwick's eyes filled with tears, and the other disciples commiserated half- weeping with him in sympathy. The Maharshi finally broke in, after having remained silent throughout.

M: You unwise people! You may 'die' and discover your real Self, and then live without death. So why do you care about the death of a third person? The Self does not perish, only the body. Get rid of your materialistic outlook!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 28, 2013, 10:39:31 AM
When Paul Brunton's pet rabbit was killed by a wild cat, someone expressed regret.

M: The rabbit's spirit is still near to Brunton; it has not gone away. Do not worry about it any more. It is dead, so be quiet.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 29, 2013, 12:46:06 PM
News of someone's death was reported to the Maharshi.

M: Good! The dead ones are indeed happy. They have got rid of the troublesome overgrowth, the body! Do people fear sleep? Sleep is temporary death. Death is just a longer sleep. Why should one desire continuance of the bodily shackles? Let the man find his undying Self and be immortal.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 30, 2013, 12:45:36 PM
M: So long as one identifies oneself with the gross body, thoughts will materialize as gross manifestations (the world) and appear to be real. The life-current having existed here, it will certainly survive death. Hence, under these circumstances the other world exists. On the other hand, consider that the One Reality is the Self from whom the ego has sprung. The ego loses sight of the Self and identifies itself with the body, resulting in ignorance and misery. The life-current has passed through innumerable incarnations, births and deaths, but is still unaffected. There is no reason to mourn.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 31, 2013, 10:38:25 AM
M: Who wants physical immortality? We should want only one thing: to realize and be in the Self and to get out of this body. Why then prolong life in it?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 03, 2013, 02:29:24 AM
Rebirth and after-death

M: There is a class of people who want to know all about their future and past births. They ignore the present. The load from the past is the present misery. Why recall the past? It is a waste of time.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 04, 2013, 10:30:24 AM
M: The Self is the electric dynamo, the mind is the contact switchboard, and the body is the lamp. When the karma-hour comes to give death, the mind switches off the current and withdraws the light-life from the body. Both mind and vitality are manifestations of the supreme life force, the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 05, 2013, 10:33:39 AM
M: Rebirth really reveals discontent with the present state and a desire to be born where there will be no discontent. As birth is of the body, it cannot affect the Self. The Self remains forever, even after the body perishes. The discontent is due to the wrong identification of the eternal Self with the perishable body.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 06, 2013, 12:06:03 AM
Q: Can yogis show us the dead?

M: They may be able to, but don't ask me to do it because I cannot. Did we know our relatives before their births, that we should know them after their deaths?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 07, 2013, 10:30:51 AM
Q: Can yogis show us the dead?

M: They may be able to, but don't ask me to do it because I cannot. Did we know our relatives before their births, that we should know them after their deaths?

Q: What happens to a person after death?

M: Engage yourself in the living present. The future will take care of itself. Do not worry about the future.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 10, 2013, 02:23:33 AM
Q: Is it possible to know the after-death state of a person?

M: Some are born immediately after, and others after a lapse of time. A few are not reborn on this earth but get salvation from the higher regions, and a very few get absorbed here and now.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 11, 2013, 10:31:16 AM
Q: Is it possible to know the after-death state of a person?(cont'd)

Q: But is it possible to know their condition after death?

M: It is possible. But why try?

Q: Because I consider my own son's death to be real from my level of understanding.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 12, 2013, 12:30:38 AM
M: The birth of the "I"-thought is your son's birth; its death is the person's death. After the "I"-thought has arisen, wrong identification with the body arises. Thinking yourself as the body, you give false values to others, and identify them with bodies. Did you think of your son before his birth? Only as you are thinking of him, he is your son. Where has he gone? He has gone to the source from which he sprang. He is one with you. So long as you are, he is there too.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 13, 2013, 12:21:47 AM
M: See the real Self and then this confusion with the body will vanish. You are eternal. The others will be found to be eternal. Until this truth is realized, there will always be this grief due to wrong identification. Birth and death and rebirth should only make you investigate the question, and discover that there are no births or rebirths: they relate to the body and not to the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 14, 2013, 10:33:26 AM
Q: Do you see the dead?

M: Yes, in dreams.

Q. Why does a soul die in childhood? It does not seem fair because it has not had enough experience of life to win realization.

M: You do not know the child's viewpoint! Yours is simply of the intellect. We and our children are all from God and in God. God takes care of us, and our children.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 17, 2013, 10:36:18 AM
Q: What about after death?

M: Inquire first, "Who or what is it that is born?" It is the body, not you. Why trouble about things beyond you, like death, when your Self is here and present?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 18, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
Q: How long does one stay in other worlds between birth and death?

M: The sense of time is relative. In a dream you may live a whole day's events in a couple of hours. In the subtle body of the death-world you may do the same and live what seems like a thousand years, although by our time it may be only a hundred years.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 19, 2013, 10:28:55 AM
Q: They say that choice is offered to us to enjoy merits or demerits after our death. Is that right?

M: Why these questions relating to after death? Why ask, "Was I born? Am I reaping the fruits of my past karma?" and so on. They will not be raised after you have been asleep for a while. Why? Are you different from the one in sleep?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 20, 2013, 10:29:52 AM
M: You are just the same in sleep, in dream, and in the waking state. Sleep is a natural state of happiness; there is no misery. The sense of want, of pain etc., arises only in the waking state. What is the change that has taken place? You are the same in both but there is a difference in happiness. Why? Because the mind has now arisen. This mind arises after the "I"-thought. The "I"-thought arises from Consciousness; if one abides in It, one will always be happy.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 21, 2013, 10:04:16 AM
Q: Is the jiva (ego, individual soul or self) capable of spiritual progress in an animal body?

M: It is not impossible, but it is exceedingly rare.

Q: Can a human being be reborn as a lower animal?

M: Yes, it is possible, as illustrated by Jada Bharata (the royal sage who was reborn as a deer; as told in the scriptures).

Humans can be reborn as animals, depending on the last train of thought or mood prior to death. (This again is produced by predominant thoughts during life.)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 24, 2013, 10:30:43 AM
Q: There is a religion called Christian Science that has a similar doctrine. Is it correct?

M: Yes, but do not concern yourself with results.

Q: What is the State just before death?

M: When a person gasps for breath, it indicates un-consciousness of the body; while gasping the person is in something like a dream, and not aware of the present environment.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 25, 2013, 01:52:21 AM
Q: Does the mind state at that time reveal the next reincarnation of the person?

M: Yes, in this case, but in other cases there may be a period between births.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 26, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
M: While you were asleep did you ask any questions about your birth or where you go after death? Why think about all these now in the waking state? Let what is born think of its birth and remedy, its cause and ultimate fate. What is birth? Is it of the "I"-thought or of the body? Is "I" separate from the body or identical? How did this "I"-thought arise? Is the "I"- thought your nature? Or, is anything else your nature?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 27, 2013, 01:40:41 AM
M: Objects that you observe will come to an end. That which is created has a destruction or end. That which is not created has no end. That which exists cannot be observed. Find out what it is that appears; the destruction of that which appears is the end. That which exists, exists forever, that which appears, is lost when realized.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 28, 2013, 10:29:17 AM
M: What is it that had birth? Whom do you call a human being? If, instead of seeking explanations for birth, death and after-death, the question is raised as to who and how you are now, these questions will not arise. You are the same while deeply asleep, in dream and in the waking state. Is the "I"-thought jiva, (ego or individual soul) or the body jiva? Is this thought our nature? It is the body that feels pain; there is no pain in the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 01, 2013, 02:29:04 AM
M: The body is born again and again. We wrongly identify ourselves with the body, and hence imagine we are reincarnated constantly. No. We must identify ourselves with the true Self. The realized one enjoys unbroken consciousness, never broken by birth or by death -- how can he die? Only those who think "I am the body" talk of reincarnation. To those who know "l am the Self" there is no rebirth.

Reincarnations exist only so long as there is ignorance. There is no incarnation, either now, before or hereafter. This is the truth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 02, 2013, 10:36:50 AM
The Meaning of Religion

M: All creeds are just preliminaries for the masses, leading up to the real truth of the Self. The religions are not necessarily the highest expression or the highest wisdom of their founders, who had to consider the times in which they lived and the mental capacities of the people.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 03, 2013, 10:33:34 AM
The Meaning of Religion

M: The highest wisdom is too subtle for most minds, and so a whole scheme of worlds, gods, bodies, evolution etc, had to be given out because people seem to find it easier to believe all these things rather than believe the simple truth of the One Reality -- the Self. Thus reincarnation, astral planes, survival after death, etc., are true, but only from a lower standpoint. It is all a matter of standpoint.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 04, 2013, 10:30:22 AM
M: From the highest (standpoint), that of the real Self, all else disappears as illusory and only Reality remains. It is true that subtle astral bodies exist, because in order to function in the dream-world a body is necessary for that world; but it too is real only on its own plane, whereas the One Self is always real, always and eternally existent, whether we are aware of it or not. Hence it is better to seek that, because the other bodies are only conditionally real.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 05, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
M: An ordinary Christian is only satisfied when told that God is in some far-off heaven, not to be reached by us unaided, that Christ alone has known Him and he alone can save us. So when told the simple truth that the Kingdom of Heaven is within him, the Christian is not satisfied and will read far-fetched meanings into the statement. Mature minds alone can grasp the simple truth in all its nakedness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 08, 2013, 01:10:46 AM
Q: Do Vishnu, Shiva and so on, exist?

M: Individual human souls are not the only beings known. But, instead of pursuing inquiry in this direction, why not inquire into yourself? To whom do these ideas arise?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 09, 2013, 10:31:43 AM
Q: As for God's help in my effort, is that to be acquired by worship? Wouldn't that be helpful?

M: lswara's (the supreme personal god of Hinduism) grace and worship for gaining it are intermediate steps necessary only while the goal remains out of reach. When it is attained, God is the Self.

The utterance of words is not worship. The shedding of thoughts is jnana (knowledge of Self). It is absolute existence.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 10, 2013, 10:27:04 AM
Q: Should I continue idol worship?

M: As long as you think you are the body, there is no harm. It may lead to concentration of the mind. Get one-pointed. All will come out right.

When we worship images and forms we are really worshipping ourselves in the images.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 11, 2013, 10:31:50 AM
Q: Should I practice sandhya (religious rites for Brahmins)?

M: If you think it necessary by all means do so.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 12, 2013, 10:30:12 AM
Q: People who are taught scriptures when they are young tend to detest them later on.

M: The revulsion of feeling is not due to age but due to misunderstanding. If rightly guided they will appreciate the scriptures all the more in their mature years.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 15, 2013, 01:35:59 AM
Q: What of idols?

M: They have a deep significance. Worshipping them is a method of concentrating the mind. The mind is apt to move externally. It must be checked and turned within. Its habit is to dwell on names and forms, for all external objects possess them. Certain names and forms are symbolic concepts used to divert the mind away from external objects and make it dwell within itself. Thus the idols, mantras, sacred syllables, rites etc, are all meant to give food to the mind in its inward course so that it may become capable of being concentrated. Only after this can the supreme state be reached.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 16, 2013, 10:29:28 AM
Q: The Bhagavad Gita says that the worlds are like beads on a string. What does it mean?

M: Krishna means that they (individual beings) are not apart from Me. The differences are physically apparent, and therefore the Gita emphasizes the unity.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 17, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Q: But that unity comes only after merging into the Lord.

M: Where are we now? We ourselves and the illusion are all in Him.

Q: The difficulty lies in reaching that.

M: There is no reaching it, because it is eternal. If the Self were to be gained anew, it would not be permanent.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 18, 2013, 10:34:57 AM
Without the infinite power, God, the true Self, this world would not exist and this incense would not burn. This Self is in all forms. It alone gives them reality. Hence the illumined one finds himself in all others, for he has found unity and no longer perceives multiplicity.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 19, 2013, 10:27:11 AM
Because Krishna gave the vision of universal form to Arjuna, it does not mean that Iswara (the supreme personal god of Hinduism) himself sees the universe like that; He does not see any individuals; He sees only the Self. Krishna merely lent his 'eyes' to Arjuna to help him see.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 22, 2013, 01:58:25 AM
M: While people regard themselves as bodies, ignoring their true nature as spirit without form, they naturally fall into the error of regarding the supreme God as having form. Realization is the cure for both.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 23, 2013, 10:31:36 AM
Q: Does the Absolute know itself?

M: The ever-conscious is beyond both knowledge and ignorance; your question presupposes subject and object, but the Absolute is beyond both. It is knowledge itself.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 24, 2013, 02:00:21 AM
Q: How is God to be seen?

M: Within. If the mind is turned inwards, God manifests as the inner consciousness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 25, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Q: But isn't God in all the objects we see around us?

M: God is in everything and in the seer. Where can God be seen? He cannot be found outside. He should be felt within. To see the objects, mind is necessary, and to conceive God in them is only a mental operation. But that is not real. The consciousness within, purged of the mind, is felt as God.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 26, 2013, 10:34:08 AM
Q: These deities, what is their status relative to the Self?

M: Siva, Ganapati and other deities, like Brahma, exist from a human standpoint -- that is, if you consider your personal self as real and existing, then they also exist. Just as a government has its high executive officers to carry on the government, so has the Creator. But from the standpoint of the Supreme Absolute Self all these gods are illusory and must themselves merge into the one Reality.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 29, 2013, 10:27:55 AM
Q: Why are so many gods mentioned?

M: You have only one body, but how many functions does it perform? The source of all the functions is only one. It is the same with the gods.

By realizing the One we know all the many gods.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 30, 2013, 10:33:12 AM
Q: Convince me of the existence of God.

M: Realization of the Self amounts to such conviction.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 31, 2013, 10:23:49 AM
Q: Is God personal?

M: Yes, God is always the first person standing before you. We must give up everything and make God alone the one who stands in front.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 01, 2013, 10:38:54 AM
Q: No answer comes to my inward search.

M: The inquirer is the answer and no other answer can come. What comes cannot be true. What is, is true. Man cannot help being in his own nature; he only has to know it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 02, 2013, 10:34:03 AM
Q: Is there a separate being, Iswara, (the supreme personal god of Hinduism) who is the rewarder of virtue and punisher of sins? Is there a God?

M: Yes.

Q: Has he an end? Does he get dissolved in pralaya (cosmic dissolution)?

M: Pralaya is the soul held by maya (illusion). If you, with all your defects and limitations, can rise above all pralaya and samsara (endless chain of birth and death) by jnana (knowledge of the Self), into realization of the Self, is it not reasonable to expect that Iswara, who is infinitely more intelligent than you, is above and beyond pralaya? Enlighten yourself by realizing yourself.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 05, 2013, 10:27:53 AM
Q: What is Iswara like?

M: Iswara has individuality in mind and body, which are perishable, but at the same time He also has the transcendental consciousness and liberation inwardly.

Iswara, the personal God [of Hinduism] or Supreme creator of the Universe does exist. But this is true only from the relative standpoint for those who have not realized ultimate truth, who believe in the reality of individual souls. From the Absolute standpoint, the sage cannot accept any other existence than the impersonal Self, one and formless.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 06, 2013, 10:27:34 AM
Iswara (the supreme personal god of Hinduism) has a physical body, a name and a form, but it is not as gross as this material body. It can be seen in visions, in the form created by the devotee. The names and forms of God are many and various and differ with each religion. His essence is the same as ours, the real Self being only one and without form. Hence the forms he assumes are only creations or appearances.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 07, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
Iswara (the supreme personal god of Hinduism) is immanent in every person and in every material object throughout the universe. The totality of all things and beings constitutes God. There is a power out of which a small fraction has become all this universe, and the remainder is in reserve. Both this reserve power, plus the manifested power as the material world, together constitute Iswara.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 08, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
To worship this Creator we must understand God's nature and our relation to It. All moral conduct, all rational thought is the right worship of this God. Even the Western skeptic who does his limited best to understand God is performing right worship. The real source is not this relative God but it can be reached through this.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 09, 2013, 10:28:17 AM
Q: You say that we shall find the divine center inside us. If each individual has a center are there then millions of divine centers?

M: There is only one center to which there is no circumference. Dive deep within and find it.

Meditating on Him or on the Seer, the Self, there is the mental vibration "I" to which all are reduced. Tracing the source of "I," the primal "I-I" alone remains; and this is inexpressible.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 12, 2013, 10:05:54 AM
Q: Do heavenly worlds really exist?

M: So long as you consider this world real, those are also real. Why should they not exist?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 13, 2013, 10:21:39 AM
Q: But are those worlds mere ideas?

M: Everything is really an idea to you. Nothing appears to you except through the mind and as its idea.

Q: Then where are these worlds?

M: They are in you.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 14, 2013, 10:38:24 AM
Krishna's statement that he is born from time to time whenever the world is in need, is a sop (concession [dictionary definition]) to ignorance which mistakes him for the body. He is Reality and hence unborn.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 15, 2013, 10:27:20 AM
Free will and karma

Questions of fate and free will arise only to those who fail to look into the root of both. To know the cause is never to entertain thoughts of either fate or free will.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 16, 2013, 10:29:35 AM
Free will and karma (contd)

Everything in this universe is run by one supreme power, but if people will not keep to the destined path appointed for them, but stray beyond its limits, then God punishes them and through that they turn towards the Self. But when the punishment finishes, they stop worshipping and sin again, thereby inviting an increased punishment. Agitation or anxiety is a sign of having strayed from destiny, whereas on the appointed path they will remain peaceful and content. They should abide in the Self and not seek to stray into desires and ambitions beyond what God gives, but be egoless.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 19, 2013, 10:36:26 AM
Free will and karma (contd)

Q: Is there such a thing as free will?

M: Whose free will is it? You believe it is yours, but you are beyond will and fate. Abide as That and you will transcend them both. That is the meaning of conquering destiny by will. Fate can be conquered. Fate is the result of karma (action), but bad vasanas (inherent tendencies) are conquered by sat sanga (association with Being [Self]) and one's experiences are viewed in the proper perspective.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 21, 2013, 02:47:32 PM
Free will and karma (contd)

Q: Is there such a thing as free will? (contd)

M: I now enjoy the fruit of karma (action). I did in the past and will in the future. Who is this "I?" Finding this "I" to be pure Consciousness beyond karma and enjoyment, freedom and happiness are discovered. There is then no effort, for the Self is perfect and there is nothing to gain. So long as there is individuality, one is the enjoyer and the doer. But if it is lost, the divine will act and guide the course of events. Restrictions and discipline are for jivas (ego or individual soul) and not for muktas (liberated ones). The scriptures imply that free will is good and can overcome fate. It is done by jnana, (knowledge of the Self) "As the fire which is kindled reduces all fuel to ashes, oh Arjuna, so does the fire of knowledge reduce all karma to ashes." (Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 4.)
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 21, 2013, 02:52:15 PM
Free will and karma (contd)

M: When anything happens, we tend to attribute it to something or someone else. However, the fact is that our experiences have already been created by ourselves and nothing happens which is more or less than what we deserve. What can others do to us? See what Rama said to Lakshman when the latter was distressed at the sight of Rama and Sita lying on a bed of grass. (1)
(1) From the Ramayana; Rama points out that they have been reduced to this plight (of suffering in the forest) as a result of their own deeds in the past, and that they cannot blame anybody else as others were only tools in the hands of the Lord in executing justice.
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Post by: Ravi.N on August 21, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
Prashant,
Very Good excerpts from Sri Bhagavan on Fate and Freewill.Thanks very much.
The following quote attributed to Arthur Ashe comes to my mind:

WHY ME?

Arthur Ashe, the legendary Wimbledon player was dying of AIDS which he got due to infected blood he recieved during a heart surgery in 1983.
From the world over, he recieved letters from his fan, one of them conveyed: "Why does God have to select you for such a bad disease?".
To this Arthur Ashe replied: The world over--50,000,000 children start playing tennis, 5,000,000 learn to play tennis, 500,000 learn profesional tennis, 50,000 come to the circuit, 5000 reach the grand slam, 50 reach the Wimbledon, 4 to semi finals, 2 to finals. When I was the one holding the cup, I never asked god "Why me?".
And today in pain, I should not be asking GOD "why me?".

Namaskar.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 21, 2013, 09:59:37 PM
Dear Ravi ji,

Nice snippet sir.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 22, 2013, 01:51:30 PM
Free will and karma (contd)

M: Others are not responsible for what happens to us. They are only instruments for what would happen to us some way or other. Let us be strong in faith and not succumb to fear. Whatever happens, happens according to our prarabdha (the part of ones past karma [actions] that is to be worked out in this life). Let it exhaust itself. Evil intentions and evil actions are natural to the evil-minded. But their evil will only turn back on themselves, and not affect us simply because they desire it. One is required not to think of oneself, so why should there be anxiety regarding others?
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Post by: ramanaduli on August 22, 2013, 06:20:55 PM
Dear sir,

Being a avatara how can Lord Ram have prarabtha karma to suffer.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Ravi.N on August 23, 2013, 08:59:26 AM
Ramanaduli,
Whether lord sri Rama had admitted that sleeping on the grass with our mother Sita ls a 'plight' is something to be doubted!He and our mas sita simply revelled in each other's company enjoying the beauty of the forest.still less Sri Bhagavan would have even admitted that even for arguement sake.We may only admit the arguement from Sri Lakshmana's point of view only.

Sri bhagavan has explained about parechcha prarabda that i have posted in the teachings thread:

Quote
17th May, 1947 (116) PRARABDHA (FATE)
This morning at 9 o’clock one devotee addressed Bhagavan as follows: “Swami, you said yesterday that a Jnani
will perform such actions as are ordained according to his prarabdha. But it is said that Jnanis have no prarabdha at all!”
Bhagavan said, in a leisurely way, “How did they get this body if they have no prarabdha? How do they perform the various actions? The actions of Jnanis are themselves called prarabdhas. It is stated that there is prarabdha from Brahma right up to Sadasiva
and the Avatars of Rama and Krishna and others also.

ParitranAya sAdhunAm vinAsAyaduskritAm
Dharma SansthapanArthAya sambhavAmi  yuge yuge.

For the protection of the good, for the destruction of evildoers, for the sake of firmly establishing dharma (righteousness), I am born from age to age. Bhagavad Gita, IV: 8
“As stated in this sloka, Ishwara assumes a shape when the virtues of good people and the sins of bad people mingle and become prarabdha and he has to establish dharma. That is called parechcha prarabdha (the acts of other people). The body itself is prarabdha. The purpose for which that body has come into existence will get done of its own accord.”
Letters from Sri Ramanasramam-Suri Nagamma

Namaskar
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 23, 2013, 11:19:19 AM
Free will and karma (contd)

Q: Are stones etc. destined to remain stones forever?

M: Who sees stones? They are perceived by your senses, which are in turn actuated by your mind. So they are in your mind. Whose mind is it? If the Self were found, this question would not arise. The Self is more intimate than objects. Find the subject, and the objects will take care of themselves.
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Post by: Nagaraj on August 23, 2013, 11:46:23 AM
Dear Ramanaduliji and Sri Ravi,

Here is one from talks:

Sri Bhagavan recounts the anecdote of Parvati testing Rama. The story is as follows:

Rama and Lakshmana were wandering in the forest in search of Sita. Rama was grief-stricken. Just then Siva and Parvati happened to pass  close by. Siva saluted Rama and passed on. Parvati was surprised and asked Siva to explain why He, the Lord of the Universe, being  worshipped by all, should stop to salute Rama, an ordinary human who having missed his consort was grief-stricken and moving in anguish  in the wilderness and looking helpless. Siva then said: “Rama is simply acting as a human being would under the circumstances. He is nevertheless the incarnation of Vishnu, and deserves to be saluted. You may test him if you choose.” Parvati considered the matter, took the shape of Sita and appeared in front of Rama, as he was crying out the name of Sita in great anguish.

He looked at Parvati appearing as Sita, smiled and asked, “Why, Parvati, are you here? Where is Sambhu? Why have you taken the shape of Sita?” Parvati felt abashed and explained how she went there to test him and sought an explanation for Siva saluting him. Rama replied: “We are all only aspects of Siva, worshipping Him at sight and remembering Him out of sight.”

Rama replied: “We are all only aspects of Siva, worshipping Him at sight and remembering Him out of sight.”



Sri Vasishta teaches Rama in Vasishtam in essence what Bhagavan has said in Ulladu Naarpadu Anubandham 27:

Seeming to have enthusiasm and delight, seeming to have excitement and aversion, seeming to exercise initiative and perseverance, and yet without attachment, play, O hero, in the world. Released from all bonds of attachment and with equanimity of mind, acting outwardly in all situations in accordance with the part you have assumed, play as you please, O hero, in the world.

Bhagavan willing if come across the verse from Vasishtam, i shall post. Where Vasishta asks Rama to cry, when he has to cry, laugh when he has to laugh, ...

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Post by: ramanaduli on August 23, 2013, 09:36:46 PM
Thank Mr.Ravi ji and Nagaraj ji for clearing the doubts.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 26, 2013, 06:08:05 AM
Free will and karma (contd)

M: Individual human beings have to suffer their karma (actions), but Iswara (the supreme personal god of Hinduism) manages to make the best of it for His purpose. God manipulates the fruit of karma; He does not add or take away from it. A human being's subconscious state is a warehouse of good and bad karma. Iswara chooses from this warehouse what will best suit the person's spiritual evolution at the time, whether pleasant or painful. Thus nothing is arbitrary.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 27, 2013, 07:15:01 PM
Surrender

Surrender and all will be well. Throw all responsibility onto God. Do not bear the burden. What can destiny do then? If one surrenders to God, there will be no cause for anxiety. If you are protected by God, nothing will affect you. The sense of relief is in direct proportion to the reliance on God or the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 29, 2013, 10:59:44 AM
Surrender (contd)

Q: Surrender is impossible.

M: Yes, complete surrender is impossible in the beginning -- but partial surrender is certainly possible for everyone and will eventually lead to it. Well, if surrender is impossible what can be done? There will be no peace of mind as you are helpless to bring it about otherwise. It can be done only by surrender.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 29, 2013, 11:16:03 AM
Surrender (contd)

M: When a person surrenders as a slave to the Divine, eventually there is the realization that all one's actions are the actions of God. The sense of "I" and " mine" are lost. This is what is meant by "doing the will of God." Those who realize that they have lost their ahamkara ("I"-ness), and that they are not different from Iswara (the supreme personal god of Hinduism), are jnanis (those who have realized the Self). This is Vedanta; the former is Siddhanta -- but see how the goal is the same.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 30, 2013, 01:54:13 PM
Q: Can partial surrender undo destiny?

M: Oh, yes! It can.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 02, 2013, 08:12:23 AM
Q: What is self-surrender?

M: It is the same as self-control. Control is effected by the removal of samskaras (endless chain of birth and death). The ego submits only when it recognizes the higher power. Such recognition is surrender; and is the same as self-control. Otherwise the ego remains like the carved image stuck up on a tower making it appear as though it is supporting the tower on its shoulders.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 03, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
Surrender (contd)

M: The ego cannot exist without the higher power but thinks that it acts of its own accord. A passenger on a train continues to hold his load on his head out of foolishness. Let him put it down; the load will reach his destination just the same. Similarly, let us not pose as the doers, but resign ourselves to the guiding power.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 04, 2013, 12:44:03 PM
Creation

Commentary to this Section:

The state before creation and the process of creation itself are dealt with in the scriptures in order for you to know the present. Because you say you are born, they also say it and that God created you. But do you see God or anything else in your sleep? If God were real, why does he not shine forth in your sleep? You are the same now as you were in sleep. Why should there be a difference in the feelings or experiences of the two states?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 05, 2013, 10:51:57 AM
Q: Why does Krishna speak of evolution? Does Bhagavan believe in evolution?

M: Evolution must be from one state to another. When no differences are admitted, how can evolution arise? How does the Gita begin? So there is no birth, no death, no present as you look at it. Reality was, is and will be. It is changeless.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 06, 2013, 01:31:09 PM
M: Later, Arjuna asked Krishna how he could have lived before avidya (ignorance of one's true nature). Seeing Arjuna confusing him with the gross body, Krishna then spoke to him accordingly. The instruction was to one who sees diversity. There is, however, no bondage or liberation for himself or others from the jnanis (one who has realized the Self) standpoint. There is no liberation. Liberation could only be if there was bondage. There is really no bondage and so it follows there is no liberation. There is no question of time. Stop this thought now. You are only in your natural state, whether you practice yoga or not.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 09, 2013, 09:08:20 AM
Creation (contd)

Q: The Vedas contain cosmogony [the study of the universes origin]. The Absolute Brahman is said to have created akash (space, ether), which later became all the elements in the universe. How can something issue out of nothing? Again, Vivekananda was questioned about the beginning of time, he raised a counter-question as a bar, "How can you fix a point at which eternally running time can begin?" and declared the question illogical. His answer may be logical but does not satisfy the mind.

M: The cosmogony you mention is not the essential reality of the one Absolute and the unreality of all else. What is taught about the world's origin is but a supplementary reason. These passages are for people who desire to get a fuller idea of the world and who inquire about its creation and destruction, but if there is a conflict between the essential teaching and them in your views, reject them and accept the former.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 10, 2013, 09:14:36 AM
M: Scriptures arise to suit varying conditions, but their spirit is the same. Questions are asked from a certain viewpoint and the answers are given from the same. The scriptures are useful to indicate the existence of the higher power (the Self) and the way to gain it. Their essence is that alone, and when it is realized, they are useless. They are voluminous because they are adapted to the development of the seeker. As one rises in the scale, one finds the portions one has transcended to be steps to the higher stage, etc.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 11, 2013, 06:19:22 PM
M: Because people cannot understand the truth of their eternal selves, they are eager to know what lies beyond -- heaven, hell, reincarnation etc. Yet after wandering everywhere else they must in the end return to the Self alone. Then why not do it now? After all, the other worlds require the Self as spectator. Their validity is only of the same degree as his.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 12, 2013, 08:27:02 PM
M: There is no creation or destruction in the Absolute. Only when the mind appears, does the world appear. Both creation and destruction are movements, but not in the Absolute substratum: they are of shakti (energy), and eternal.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 13, 2013, 07:53:03 AM
Q: Being always Satchitananda (Being, Consciousness, Bliss), why does God place us in difficulties? Why did He create?
M: Does God come and tell you that He has placed you in difficulties? It is you who say so. It is again wrong. If that disappears, there will be no one to say that God created.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 16, 2013, 08:19:37 AM
M: That which is, does not even say, "I am" for does any thought arise that "I am not?" Only in such a case should one be reminding oneself "I am" otherwise not. For instance, does a man say always "I am a man." He does not. On the other hand, if a thought arises that he is a cow or a buffalo, he has to remind himself that he is not a cow, but "I am a man." This would never happen. It is the same with one's own existence and realization.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 17, 2013, 04:39:41 AM
The realized man sees himself in others -- they are not different from himself. With wise people he is wise, but with the ignorant he becomes ignorant, with children he will play and with the learned he will be scholarly.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 18, 2013, 03:19:02 PM
The Self-realized one is not to be regarded as an idler or a lazy drone. His powers develop incessantly and, in the course of time, he may develop and manifest occult powers, if that is his karma (destiny, arising from past action). This will be merely a sort of sport for the jnani (one who has realized the Self) in the objective world, as he has no interest or particular purpose to serve. But if his prarabdha (part of past karma to be worked out in this life) is otherwise, siddhis (supernatural powers) will not manifest, and the wise one, who habitually and by nature rests in the Atman (the Self), does not seek any other path.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 19, 2013, 12:07:21 PM
When a person has realized, a universal life-current takes possession of him and he becomes an instrument in its hands. His own separate will is gone. This is the real Self-surrender. This is the highest kundalini (the divine cosmic energy), this is real bhakti (devotion), this is jnana (knowledge of the Self).
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Post by: ramanaduli on September 19, 2013, 07:48:15 PM
Dear sir,

Self realised people and those who have not realised both people have to do their karma. The only difference is self realised people never expects any result out of their karma where as unrealised people expects the result because of their agyanana.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: Subramanian.R on September 20, 2013, 09:47:15 AM
Dear ramanaduli,

Yes. Very true.

Arunachala Siva.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 20, 2013, 11:41:39 AM
The realized ones send out waves of spiritual influence, which draw many people towards them, even though they may be sitting silently in a cave. We can listen to lectures about truth and come away with hardly any grasp of the subject, but contact with a jnani (one who realizes the Self) will give much more understanding, even if he does not speak. The jnani does not need to go out among the public, but can, if necessary, use others as instruments.

Meditation on the guru's (spiritual teacher) face or form is only for beginners. Advanced disciples should concentrate on the Self. This is equal to mediating on the guru, for he is one with the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 23, 2013, 10:29:12 AM
Q: Can the guru (spiritual teacher) enable a disciple to realize the Self by transmitting his own power to him?

M: Yes. But the guru does not bring about realization; he merely removes the obstacles to it, for the Self is always realized.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 24, 2013, 10:30:33 AM
Q: Should a person engage in teaching his or her knowledge, however imperfect it is?

M: If it is one's prarabdha karma (part of past action to be worked out in this life).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 25, 2013, 10:39:09 AM
Q: Is there something to be transferred at initiation?

M: Transfer means eradication of the sense of being the disciple. The master does it. It is not that the person was something at one time and later metamorphosed into something else.

One who sees the Self has the power to help others see the Self. He is the real guru (spiritual teacher) and that is the only initiation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 26, 2013, 10:37:25 AM
Q: Vivekananda speaks of the guru (spiritual teacher) transferring spirituality.

M: Is there a substance to be transferred? Transfer really means the eradication of the sense of being the disciple.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 27, 2013, 10:36:48 AM
Q: Does the guru (spiritual teacher) have to have a human body?

M: Because you identify yourself with your body you ask this question. Find out if you are the body. The Bhagavad Gita says that those who cannot understand the transcendental nature of Sri Krishna are fools, deluded by ignorance. The master appears in order to dispel that ignorance. As Tayumanavar puts it, he appears to dispel a person' s ignorance, just as a deer is used as a decoy to capture another deer in the jungle. The master has to appear with a body in order to eradicate our ignorance, the "I am the body" idea.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 30, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
Q: Theosophists meditate to seek masters.

M: The master is within. Meditation is for removing the ignorant idea that he is external. If he were a stranger whose coming you were awaiting, he would also be bound to disappear. What is the use of a transient being like that? However, so long as you think you are an individual or the body, then the master is necessary and will appear with a body. When this wrong identification ceases, the master will be found to be the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 01, 2013, 10:31:05 AM
Q: Did you give your mother salvation on her death-bed?

M: Can anyone give liberation to another? No. One's own jnana (knowledge of the Self) alone can give one liberation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 02, 2013, 10:36:41 AM
Q: Baba (1) says he is an avatar (incarnation). Is that true?

M: What have I to say? This is a question that seekers after truth need not consider. People that are on the lower rungs of the ladder waste their energies over such questions. Everyone is an avatar of God. One who knows the truth sees God in every face and everyone else as a manifestation of God.

(1). The questioner is probably referring to Meher Baba, whom Brunton had met previously (see A Search in Secret India).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 03, 2013, 11:55:03 AM
Q: I am reluctant to leave your presence and return to my home, which is far away.

M: Think that you are always in my presence. That will make you feel all right.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 04, 2013, 10:44:29 AM
Q: I am unable to visit you as often as I want.

M: You need not come and you need not feel disheartened about it. Wherever you are, do not stray from your Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 07, 2013, 10:32:08 AM
Q: Is a teacher necessary?

M: With any kind of physical and mental training we look for a competent teacher -- the same rule applies to spiritual matters.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 08, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
Q: Is a guru (spiritual teacher) needed for spiritual progress?

M: Yes, but the guru is within you; he is one with your own Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 10, 2013, 01:32:27 AM
Q: Is the guru (spiritual teacher) necessary?

M: Yes, the guru is necessary. He shows the road to the Self and carries a light for you.

The guru sees all people as the Self. To him there are none who are ignorant; he finds no difference between them and himself.

#3611

Q: Is a guru (spiritual teacher) absolutely necessary?

M: So long as duality persists in you, a guru is necessary. Take the guru to be the Self, and yourself to be the individual self. Because you identify yourself with the body you think the guru is also somebody, but you are not the body and neither is the guru. This knowledge that you are the Self and so is the guru, is gained by what you call realization.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 11, 2013, 10:44:34 AM
Q: Can't a guru (spiritual teacher) give us realization as a gift?

M: The guru is a very powerful aid on the path, but your effort is also essential; it is you who sees the sun -- can your spectacles do it for you? You have to see your true nature.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 14, 2013, 01:33:58 AM
Q: Won't a competent guru (spiritual teacher) be a great help to me?

M: Yes. Go on working with the light you now have available and you will meet your guru, as he will be seeking you himself.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 15, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
Q: Prajananda has written to ask if he can become your disciple.

M: All these gurus (spiritual teachers) and disciples exist only from the disciple's standpoint. To the Self-realized there is neither guru nor disciple but only one Self. The guru is the disciple. It is only because you have body-consciousness that you regard him as separate.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 16, 2013, 10:30:53 AM
Q: But a guru (spiritual teacher) can give help?

M: Certainly, yes, he can help.

Q: Well, shall I tell him (Prajananda) that faith and love towards you are all he needs to show?

M: Yes.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 17, 2013, 10:37:09 AM
Q: How long does one need a guru (spiritual teacher)?

M: For as long as there is ignorance. The guru -- in other words, God manifesting -- guides the devotee saying that God is in you and that He is the Self. This leads to introversion of mind and finally to realization. Effort is necessary until realization. Even then, the Self should become evident spontaneously. Until that state of spontaneity is attained, some form of effort is required.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 18, 2013, 10:33:42 AM
Q: How can we meet the appointed guru (spiritual teacher)?

M: Intense meditation brings about the consummation. The sage's glance has a purifying effect.

If you understand your own reality, the rishi's (sage's) reality will be clear to you. There is only one Master and that is the Self.

The One Initiator works through all the gurus in the world, thus there is no difference between them and Him. He bestows His teaching and initiation -- which is the highest -- in silence.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 21, 2013, 11:37:49 AM
Q: How can one identify a competent guru (spiritual teacher)?

M: By the peace of mind in his presence and by the sense of respect you feel for him.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 22, 2013, 10:29:49 AM
Q: How can I get nearer to my master?

M: Are you the personality? Does the Self say the master is far away?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 23, 2013, 10:26:21 AM
Q: Don't I need a guide to see God?

M: Who was your guide to see Ramana Bhagavan? With whose guidance do you see the world every day? Just as you are able to see the world yourself, so you will also be able to see your Self if you make a sincere attempt. It will be your Self alone that will guide you in that quest as well.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 24, 2013, 10:26:54 AM
The Guru's (spiritual teachers) State

Commentary to this Section:

The guru is the Self, but manifests as the external guru at a lower stage of the mind's development. A spiritually-minded person takes God for his guru believing that God is everywhere. Later, God brings the person into contact with a personal guru, whose grace enables one to feel that one's Self is the Reality and the guru.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 25, 2013, 10:34:28 AM
The Guru's (spiritual teachers) State

Commentary to this Section: (cont'd)

The universe does not exist apart from the Self. All "evolution," all external objects, are spun from the Self and disappear into it. Where does the world disappear to when we enter deep sleep? We exist but the world no longer exists. Self is hence the substratum, which gives reality to the universe. If our Self did not exist, there would be no universe for us. The reality is in the Self, therefore, not in the universe. Realization of this comes to the realized person.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 28, 2013, 12:34:25 AM
The sage experiences that he is the body, just as the ignorant person does. The difference is that the ignorant one believes that the Self is confined to the body, whereas the sage knows that the body cannot remain apart from the Self. The Self is infinite for him and, also includes the body.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 29, 2013, 10:31:57 AM
A jnani (one who has realized the Self) does not feel oppressed by his body. Did those jnanis who lived in bodies and wrote sacred books cease to be jnanis?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 30, 2013, 10:17:22 AM
The realized ones do not think or plan for the future. They let the future take care of itself. For them the future is in the present.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 31, 2013, 10:26:46 AM
A jnani (one who has realized the Self) crushes the ego at its source. It rises up again and again, for him too as for the ignorant, impelled by nature, i.e. prarabdha (part of one's past karma [consequence of action] that is to be worked out in this lifetime). Both in the ignorant and in the jnani, ego sprouts, but with this difference: the former's ego is quite ignorant of its source, and is not aware of its deep sleep in the dream and waking states. On the other hand, when the jnani's ego rises, he enjoys his transcendental experience with this ego, keeping his focus always on its source. His ego is not dangerous -- it is only the ash-skeleton of a burnt rope; although it possesses a form it is ineffective. By constantly keeping our focus on our source, our ego is dissolved.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 31, 2013, 11:54:49 PM
Q: Does the guru (spiritual teacher) give help deliberately?

M: The guru's grace works automatically and spontaneously. The disciple gets precisely the help he requires.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 04, 2013, 01:48:17 AM
Q: You say that association with the wise and serving them is required of the disciple.

M: Yes, the first really means association with the unmanifest sat, or Absolute Existence; but as very few can do that, they have to take the second best, which is association with the manifest sat, i.e. the guru (spiritual teacher). One should associate with sages because thoughts are so persistent. The sage has already overcome the mind and remains in peace. His proximity helps to bring about this condition in others, otherwise there is no point in seeking his company. The guru provides the needed strength unseen by others. Primarily, service to the guru is to abide in the Self, but it also includes making his body comfortable and looking after his place of abode. Contact with the guru is also necessary, but this means spiritual contact. If the disciple finds the guru internally, then it does not matter where he goes. Staying here or elsewhere must be understood to be the same and to have the same effect.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 05, 2013, 10:30:45 AM
Q: Does Bhagavan make the way easy for aspirants by taking on their tapas (religious austerities), so that they need not go through actual hardships?

M: If that were so, everyone would easily reach the goal! Each one must work for himself.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 06, 2013, 10:19:22 AM
Q: Do you have thoughts?

M: I usually have no thoughts.

Q: But when you are reading?

M: Then I have thoughts.

Q: And when someone asks you a question?

M: Then, too, I have thoughts when replying, not otherwise.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 07, 2013, 10:32:22 AM
Q: Does the realized sage see the world?

M: Yes, but his outlook differs. You are the screen, the Self creates the ego, the ego has its thoughts which are displayed to the world like cinema pictures and those thoughts are the world. But in reality there is nothing but the Self. All are projections of the ego.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 08, 2013, 10:29:02 AM
M: Cinema pictures move, but try going to hold onto them! What do you hold? Only the screen! Let the pictures disappear, and what remains? The screen again. And so it is here. Even when the world appears the jnani (one who has realized the Self) sees it only as a manifestation of the Self.
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Post by: anirudh on November 10, 2013, 09:27:16 PM
Q: How can I attain Self Realization?

M: Realization is nothing to be gained afresh, it is already there. All that is necessary is to get rid of the thought 'I have not realised'.
     Stillness or peace is Realization. There is no moment when the Self is not. So long as there is doubt or the feeling of non-realization, the                 
     attempt should be made to rid oneself of these thoughts. They are due to the identification of the self with the not self. When the not
     self disappears, the self alone remains. To make room, it is enough that the cramping be removed; room is not brought in from
     elsewhere.

namaskar
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 11, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
M: There is only one mind functioning through the five senses. There is a power working through them, and their work begins and ends. There must be a substratum which their activities depend, a single substratum.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 12, 2013, 10:31:53 AM
Once, after I (Paul Brunton) prostrated, the Maharshi commented.

M: Why do this? It is only a formality. It is not necessary. I must answer any and every question: unless I do, I am not great. I am not endowed with television. God has not bestowed that gift upon me. What shall I do? How can I answer all questions? People call me "Maharshi" (a great sage) and treat me like this, but I do not see myself as a Maharshi.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 13, 2013, 10:30:52 AM
Q: The jnani (one who has realized the Self) says, "I am the body," and the ajnani (one who has not realized the Self) says, "I am the body." What is the difference?

M: "I am" is the truth. The body is the limitation. The ajnani limits the "I" with the body. The "I" in sleep is apart from the body. The same "I" is now in the waking state. Though thought to be in the body, "I" is really outside it. The wrong notion is not "I am the body"-- for it is the "I" that says it (the body being insentient cannot). The mistake lies in thinking that "I" is what "I" is not. "I" cannot be the inert body. The movements of the body are confused with the movements of the "I" and the result is misery. Whether the body works or not, "I" remains free and happy. The ajnani 's "I" is the body. There is the whole error. The jnani 's "I" includes the body and that is all. Some intermediate entity arises and causes confusion.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 14, 2013, 10:22:35 AM
Q: If you are slapped, don't you feel it? If so, isn't that differentiation? Where then is jnana (knowledge of the Self)?

M: A man under the influence of chloroform or drink does not feel a slap. Does that make him a jnani? Jnana is not inconsistent with the feeling of a slap.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 15, 2013, 10:30:14 AM
A disciple was once agitated because someone in the town spoke deprecatingly of the Maharshi.

M: I permit him to do so. Let him say even more. Let others follow suit. Just let them leave me alone. If anyone cares to believe those scandalous words, I shall consider it a great service to me, because if he persuades people to think of me as a false swami, they will no longer come to visit me and then I shall be able to have a quiet life. I want to be left alone, therefore I welcome the libelous pamphlet. (He laughed.)

Once when the Maharshi was violently harangued by an emissary of Perumal Swami, he listened silently to the whole thing. At the end be said, "One day I will get up and go away altogether."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 18, 2013, 02:11:40 AM
M: If you accept one philosophical system then you are forced to condemn the others. A child and jnani (one who has realized the Self) are similar. Incidents interest the child only so long as they last. It ceases to think of them after they have finished which shows that they do not leave any imprint or impressions on the child, and it is not affected by them mentally. It is the same with the sage.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 19, 2013, 10:31:01 AM
M: There is a sloka (a verse in the Sanskrit scriptural work) in the Gita, which says that one who acts without attachment to the senses and without egoism, even if he kills the enemy, does not make any karma (consequence of action). Similarly, an illumined one is free from all past karma and from all past vasanas (inherent tendencies). How can there be karma or vasana when the "I," the ego, which caused or causes them has been destroyed? Even if a realized person were to destroy many lives in war, no sin would touch his pure soul, so the Gita says.

The realized one knows neither past, present nor future. He is above time for he lives in the timeless Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 20, 2013, 10:31:38 AM
M: The illumined ones do not plan for the future. Why should they? There is no sense of "I" in them any longer, they are directed by the Infinite Power. They will just watch and wait and see what happens. They let things take their course and resign all to that Absolute Power, which you can call God, karma (consequence of action) or whatever you like. There is no egoism in them, so they are quiet.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 21, 2013, 10:08:54 AM
The Guru and the World

Q: Are saints who live in remote forests and in the Tibetan mountains still helpful to the world?

M: Yes. Realization of the Self is the greatest help that can be rendered to humanity, no matter where the saints live.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 22, 2013, 11:39:15 AM
The Guru and the World

Q: Is it not necessary for such saints to mix with people in order to help them?

M: The realized being does not see the world as different from himself. The help given by him is imperceptible but it is still there. A saint helps the whole of humanity, unknown to it. The silence of a sage gives permanent benefit and instruction to humanity, whereas lectures entertain individuals for a few hours without improving them. Silence is unceasing eloquence. Dakshinamurti (a manifestation of Siva who brought some learned sages to an experience of the Self through the power of his silence) is the ideal; he taught his rishi (sage) -- disciples through silence.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 25, 2013, 10:30:13 AM
The Guru and the World

Q: But would it not be more effective if he (a sage) mixed with them (people in order to help them)?

M: There are no others to mix with, the Self is the one and only reality.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 26, 2013, 10:36:22 AM
The Guru and the World

Q: But nowadays disciples must be created, and need to be found.

M: That is a sign of ignorance. The power which created you, created the world and can also take care of both.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 27, 2013, 11:34:11 AM
The Guru and the World

Q: What is the use of people like you who sit still doing nothing when the world is in great trouble?

M: A Self-realized being cannot help benefiting the world. His very existence bestows the highest good to the world.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 28, 2013, 10:29:35 AM
Q: What is all this talk of masters guiding the destiny of the world?

M: Has it not been said, "Would these people have diverted their outgoing minds from the world and turned inwards to meditate?" That is the purpose of the mention of masters and their hierarchy by the theosophists.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 29, 2013, 07:17:02 PM
The Guru and the World

M: A rishi (sage) sitting in one place can do anything, if he wills it. He can start wars or end them, but he knows there is a cosmic and karmic (consequence of action) process going on, so he will not interfere unwisely.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 02, 2013, 02:46:51 AM
M: What does a guru (spiritual teacher) do? Does he hand over realization to the disciple? Isn't the Self always realized by remaining in contact with the realized ones, so that a person's ignorance is gradually removed and the eternal Self thus revealed? Realization is eternal and is not newly brought about by the guru. He merely helps in the removal of ignorance.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 03, 2013, 10:38:46 AM
M: The disciple surrenders himself to the master. That means that there is no vestige of individuality retained by the disciple, and thus no cause of misery. Without understanding it correctly, people think that the guru (spiritual teacher) teaches the disciple, "Thou art That," as something which will make him more powerful than anything else. The man is already vain; what will happen if the same "I" is greatly inflated? He will be even more foolish and ignorant! This false "I" must perish. Its annihilation is the fruit of "guru service."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 04, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
The Guru and the World

Q: Does education make a sage more useful to the world?

M: Even a learned person must bow before an illiterate sage. Education is learned ignorance.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 05, 2013, 10:32:34 AM
The Guru and the World

Q: Is contact between spiritual leaders of the East and West possible? Is India the spiritual world center?

M: Spirit is unlimited and formless, and so is the spiritual center. There is only one such center. Whether in the West or the East, the center cannot be different. It has no locality. Being unlimited, it includes leaders, world, forces of destruction and construction. You speak of contact because you are thinking of embodied beings as leaders. Spiritual people are not bodies; they are not aware of their bodies. They are spirit: limitless and formless. There is always unity among them. These questions cannot arise if the Self is realized.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 06, 2013, 10:31:29 AM
The Guru and the World

Q: Why don't mahatmas (great souls) help?

M: How do you know they do not help? Public speeches, physical activity and material help are all outweighed by the silence of the mahatmas. This accomplishes more than anything else.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 09, 2013, 05:41:20 AM
The Guru and the World

Q: Is there a spiritual hierarchy of all the original founders of religions watching over human beings' spiritual welfare?

M: Let there be or let there not be. At best this is mere speculation. Know the Atman (Self) and be done with speculation. One person might admit such a hierarchy, another may not -- but no one can deny the Atman. The hierarchy cannot exist apart from the Self; realization of that is the one goal.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 10, 2013, 10:24:54 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: What is this talk of guru's (spiritual teacher) grace? Does the guru hold you by the hand and whisper something in your ear? You imagine him to be what you are yourself. Because you are identified with the body, you think that he is also a body, and will do something tangible to you. But his work lies within.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 11, 2013, 10:24:10 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: How is a guru (spiritual teacher) found? If a devotee prays to God unselfishly, God who is immanent, in his grace takes pity on the loving devotee and manifests Himself as a being according to the devotee's standard.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 12, 2013, 02:08:06 AM
The Guru's Grace


M: The devotee thinks that the guru (spiritual teacher) is a person and expects a relationship between them as bodies, but the guru, who is God or Self incarnate, works from within, helps the person to see the error of his ways, and guides him along the right path until he realizes the Self within. After such a realization, he feels, "I was so worried before, I am after all the Self, the same as before but not affected by anything. Where is he now who was so miserable? He is nowhere to be found." What should we do now? Only live up to the words of the master.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 13, 2013, 10:32:05 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: Work within. The guru (spiritual teacher) is both within and without, so he creates conditions to drive you inwards and prepares the interior
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 16, 2013, 10:27:32 AM
M: Work within. The guru (spiritual teacher) is both within and without, so he creates conditions to drive you inwards and prepares the interior to drag you to the center. Thus he gives you a push from outside and exerts a pull from within, so that you will be fixed at the center.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 16, 2013, 10:29:10 AM
M: In sleep you are centered within; on waking your mind rushes out, simultaneously thinking this, that and the other. This must be checked. It is possible only for the agent who can work both within and without. Can he be identified with a body?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 17, 2013, 10:34:32 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: We think that the world can be conquered by our efforts. When frustrated externally and driven inwards, we feel that there is a power higher than human beings. The existence of the higher power must be admitted and recognized. The ego is a very powerful elephant and cannot be brought under control by anyone less than a lion who, in this instance, is none other than the guru (spiritual teacher) whose very look makes the elephant tremble and die.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 18, 2013, 10:22:30 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: We will know in due course that our glory lies where we cease to exist. In order to gain the state, one should surrender saying, "Lord, thou art my refuge." The master then sees that this person is in a fit state to receive guidance, and so gives it. The best instruction is heart-to-heart speech in silence.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 19, 2013, 10:36:50 AM
Q: When, after a long struggle, one attains, is it one's own action, or that of the spirit-current?

M: It is the action of the current.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 20, 2013, 10:30:41 AM
Q: It is claimed that the grace of Iswara (the Supreme God of Hinduism) is necessary.

M: We are Iswara. By seeing ourselves as Him, we are having His grace. His nature is grace; leave it to Him. Surrender unreservedly, either because you admit your inability and require a higher power to help you, or investigate, go into the source and merge in the Self. God never forsakes one who has surrendered; a higher power is leading you; let it. It knows what to do and how to do it. Trust it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 23, 2013, 10:34:47 AM

The Guru's Grace

Q: Isn't grace the gift of the guru (spiritual teacher)?

M: God, grace and guru, are all synonymous and also eternal and immanent. Isn't the Self already within? Is it for the guru to bestow it by his look? If the guru believes this, then he does not deserve the name.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 24, 2013, 10:40:11 AM

The Guru's Grace

M: The books say that there are so many initiations: hasta diksha (by hand), sparsa diksha (by touch), mental diksha etc, and that the guru (spiritual teacher) performs some rites with fire, water, japa (repetition of words), and mantras. They call such fantastic performances an "initiation," as if the disciple becomes ripe only after such processes!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 27, 2013, 10:36:53 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: If the individual is sought, he is nowhere to be found. Such is the guru. Such is a Dakshinamurti. What did he do? He was silent, the disciples appeared before him, he maintained silence and the disciples' doubts were dispelled which means that they lost their individual identities. Such is the true guru and such is true initiation. That is jnana (knowledge of the Self), and not the verbiage usually associated with it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 30, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: Silence is the most potent form of work. However vast and emphatic the Sastras (scriptures) may be, they fail in their effect. The guru (spiritual teacher) is quiet and peace prevails in all his silence, vaster and more emphatic than all the Sastras put together. Jnana (knowledge of Self) is acquired by sat sanga (association with the wise), or rather by its atmosphere.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 31, 2013, 10:46:07 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: These questions arise because of the feeling, "Having been here so long, heard so much, and tried so hard, I have not gained anything." The work, which goes on within, is not apparent. In fact, the guru is always with you.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 03, 2014, 10:34:50 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: Tayumanavar says, "Oh Lord, you have been accompanying me through all these births, never abandoning me and finally rescuing me, such is the experience of realization. Srimad Bhagavata says the same thing in a different way, "We two are not only now but have ever been so."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 06, 2014, 11:22:57 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: The guru's (spiritual teacher) grace is worth more than study and meditation. It is primary; all others are secondary. It is like a hand extended to help you out of water.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 07, 2014, 10:40:50 AM
The Guru's Grace

Q: Is divine grace necessary? Can't our honest efforts bring us to the goal?

M: Yes, they can. But the gift of such grace is granted only to the true devotee or to one who has striven hard and ceaselessly on the path. The guru's (spiritual teacher) grace is the same as God's grace, because guru is not different from Him.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 08, 2014, 10:33:00 AM
The Guru's Grace

Q: I pray for your grace, as human effort is futile without it.

M: Both are necessary. The sun is shining, but you must turn and look at it in order to catch a glimpse. Similarly, individual effort is necessary as well as grace.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 09, 2014, 01:44:44 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: Grace is within you; if it were external, it would be useless. Grace is the Self; you are never out of its reach.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 10, 2014, 10:30:18 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: If you remember the guru (spiritual teacher), it is because you have been prompted by the Self. Isn't grace already there? Is there a moment when grace is not operating in you?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 13, 2014, 10:42:09 AM

The Guru's Grace

M: Grace is within you; if it were external, it would be useless. Grace is the Self; you are never out of its reach.

M: If you remember the guru (spiritual teacher), it is because you have been prompted by the Self. Isn't grace already there? Is there a moment when grace is not operating in you?

M: Your remembrance of the guru (spiritual teacher) is the forerunner of grace; grace is both the response and the stimulus. That is the Self and that is grace. There is no cause for anxiety.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 14, 2014, 02:09:38 AM
The Guru's Grace

Q: But isn't a gurus (spiritual teacher) grace or God's grace necessary for one's progress with vichara (inquiry)?

M: Yes, but the inquiry that you are making is itself guru's grace or God's grace.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 15, 2014, 10:34:37 AM
The Guru's Grace

A devotee who asked for the Maharshi's grace was told, "You have it." He experienced a throb in the centre of his chest, like a slight pressure, and felt happy and extraordinarily peaceful. He asked the Maharshi about it later.

M: Hold onto that sensation firmly whenever the mind is distracted. Your mantra-saying is no longer necessary. It is called sphurana (throbbing) and is felt on several occasions, such as fear and excitement. It is always there, at the Heart center. It is associated with antecedent causes and usually confused with the body. It is alone and pure; it is the Self. If the mind is fixed on it, sensing it continuously and automatically, it is realization. Now, it is a foretaste of realization.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 16, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: Why is grace not recognized? In the parable that is often used, we know that God seeks after souls. His grace is always available for the human soul. It is just for people to accept it.

You know the sun shines. If you shut your eyes and say there is no sun, that is your fault, not the sun's. If the grace of God is not realized by you, it does not mean that God is unwilling but that you have not surrendered yourself completely to Him. God is grace.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 17, 2014, 10:40:38 AM
To someone seeking the Maharshi's touch and grace.

M: I am Atman (Self); Atman is the guru (spiritual teacher); and Atman is also grace. No one remains without Atman. One is always in contact; nothing is more intimate.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 20, 2014, 10:39:57 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: The body is not "I." The body could not exist without our own existence. Why should we see the body as different from the Self? The Self is not born nor does it die. There is nothing new. The sages see everything in and of the Self. There is no diversity. Therefore, there is no birth or death.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 21, 2014, 10:37:25 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: To give grace is not a special function of God, nor is there any special time or occasion when He is gracious, or occasions when He is not gracious.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 22, 2014, 10:36:19 AM
Below is message #3681 for transforming the mind and realizing the true nature of the Self, or real God, based on the Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi.

The Guru's Grace

Q: Do I have your grace and benediction?

M: Why should you doubt it?

Q: Is grace necessary?

M: Certainly. But grace is there all the time. It is the Self and cannot be acquired.

Q: Isn't grace more effective than practice?

M: The guru (spiritual teacher) simply helps you in the eradication of ignorance.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 23, 2014, 08:33:42 AM
The Guru's Grace

Q: How does the gurus (spiritual teacher) grace lead to Self-realization?

M: An aspirant begins with dissatisfaction. Not content with the world, he seeks satisfaction of desires, prays to God, and his mind is purified. His longing to know God is greater than his wish to satisfy his carnal desires. It is then that God's grace begins to manifest.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 24, 2014, 10:33:50 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: He (Referring to the guru [(spiritual teacher]) takes the form of a guru and appears to the devotee, teaches the truth and purifies the mind by his teachings and contact. The mind gains strength and is able to turn inward. With meditation, it (the mind) is purified further and remains still without the slightest ripple. That expanse is the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 27, 2014, 10:32:54 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: The guru (spiritual teacher) is both external and internal. From the outside, he pushes the mind inwards, and from the inside he pulls the mind towards the Self and helps it keep quiet. That is the grace. There is no difference between God, guru and Self.

A guru's help is necessary and useful to start you on the inquiry, but you yourself must pursue it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 28, 2014, 10:40:07 AM
The Guru's Grace

M: The jnanis (one who has realized the Self) "I" includes the body, but does not identify with it. There cannot be anything apart from "I" for him. If the body falls, there is no loss for the "I." "I" remains the same. If the body feels dead, let it raise the question. Being inert it cannot. "I" never dies and does not ask. Who then dies? Who asks?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 29, 2014, 10:35:29 AM
Silence

M: Language is only a medium for communication of one's thoughts. It is used after thoughts have arisen, and they arise only after the "I"-thought.

The "I"-thought is the root of all conversation. One can understand another when one remains without thinking, by the universal language silence.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 30, 2014, 10:29:02 AM
M: Silence is ever-speaking; it is perennial; speech interrupts it. Words obstruct that mute language. When there is electricity flowing in a wire, and resistance occurs in its passage, it glows as a lamp or turns as a fan. The wire remains full of electric energy. Similarly, silence is the eternal flow of language obstructed by words.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 04, 2014, 12:36:35 AM
M: What one fails to know by a conversation that extends to several years can be known in a flash, in silence or before silence; look at Dakshinamurti's teaching, for example. (Dakshinamurti was a sage who brought his learned disciples into the Self through the power of his silence). That is the highest and most effective language.

People insist on asking me questions and so I must reply, but the truth is beyond words.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 04, 2014, 12:46:16 AM
Commentary: I watched a visitor who was a famous public speaker, and a vigorous debater known for his intolerance and argumentativeness, enter the hall and begin to question the Maharshi. Scarcely waiting for an answer he began to provide the answers himself! He laid down the law in a loud voice. For instance, he said, "I want to know the way to find truth," and a minute later he said, "Service of humanity is the best way to find truth!" The Maharshi replied, "That is what you say." He began to argue with two others in an obnoxious manner. The Maharshi kept quiet and did not say a single word until the man left, when he remarked, "Silence is the greatest weapon with which to answer such people."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 04, 2014, 12:49:06 AM
Q: Would you say that the influential force that comes from sitting in silence, meditating on the Self is able to overcome the passions and agitated thoughts of most people?

M: Yes, it is the highest power and overcomes everything.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 05, 2014, 10:37:30 AM
Q: Why do you not preach to set people on the right path?

M: You have already decided that I do not preach. Do you know who I am and what preaching is? How do you know that I'm not doing it? Does preaching consist of mounting a platform and haranguing people? Preaching is simply the communication of knowledge. It may also be done in silence. What do you think of someone listening to a speech for an hour and going away unimpressed? Compare that with another who sits in the holy presence and goes away after some time with their outlook on life totally changed. Which is better preaching loudly without effect, or sitting silently emanating intuitive forces that influence others?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 06, 2014, 10:33:36 AM
M: Again, how does speech arise? There is the unmanifest abstract knowledge, and from here the ego gives rise to thoughts and then words. In this order of descent, words become the great-grandchildren of the original source. If the word can have some effect, how much more powerful will preaching through silence be? Judge for yourself.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 07, 2014, 10:35:11 AM
Q: Why doesn't the Maharshi help the masses by lecturing to them?

M: Is God not working? Is He making speeches? Can work be done only through speech? Do you know the amount of work that can go on silently without any speech?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 10, 2014, 10:38:17 AM
Q: Several terms are used in holy books -- Atman, Paramatman, para, etc. What is the distinction between them?

M: They mean the same to the user of the words, but people understand them differently according to their development.

Q: But why use so many words to mean the same thing?

M: It is according to circumstances. They all mean the Self. "Para" means "not relative," or "beyond the relative," that is, the Absolute.

Paramatman and Atman are one and the same, the Self. The Self is eternally realized. If it were not eternal it would have to have a beginning. What begins must have an end and is only transient. There is no use in seeking a temporary condition. The fact is that it is the state of effortless, alert peace. Effortlessness while remaining aware is the Bliss state.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 11, 2014, 01:25:56 AM
Q: How can I remember my real Self? What you say is for people in the position of the Maharshi himself.

M: How can you forget it? Is the Maharshi different from you? He is not a person with two horns! Whatever happens to your body, the Self continues throughout.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 12, 2014, 10:39:57 AM
Q: What is this Self?

M: Know the Self, and God is known. Of all the definitions of God, none is so well put as the Biblical "I AM THAT I AM" in the book of Exodus. But none is so direct as the name Jehovah -- "I AM." The Absolute Being is what is. It is the Self. It is God.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 13, 2014, 10:38:55 AM
To a Buddhist:

The idea of diversity comes with body-consciousness, which arose at some moment; it has an origin and an end. What originates must be something. What is that something? It is "I"-consciousness. On finding its source you realize Absolute Consciousness.

Can the world exist without one to cognize it? Which comes first -- the being-consciousness or the rising-consciousness? The former is always there and eternal; the latter rises and disappears. It is transient.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 14, 2014, 10:49:41 AM
Q: You say that even the highest God is still only an idea. Does that mean there is no God?

M: No. There is an Iswara (the supreme personal God of Hinduism).

The seat of realization is within because the seeker cannot find it as an object outside him. That seat is Bliss and it is the core of all. Hence it is called the Heart. The only useful purpose of this birth is to turn within and realize. There is nothing else to do.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 17, 2014, 01:45:49 AM
Q: But to evolve through births, there must be practice, years of abhyasa (practice).

M: Abhyasa is only to prevent any disturbance to the inherent peace. There is no question of years. Prevent this thought at this moment. You are only in your natural state whether you are doing abhyasa or not.

Q: Why doesn't everyone realize in that case?

M: It is the same question in another form. Why do you raise this question of effort in yoga? It just shows you require it. Do it. But to remain without questions and doubts is the natural state. Self is not attainable because you are the Self.

Forgetfulness never overtakes the Self. It is your nature. The Self is now confused with the non-self and that makes you speak of oblivion.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 18, 2014, 01:31:16 AM
Q: How can we find the Self?

M: There can be no real investigation into the Atman (Self). The investigation can only be made into the non-self. It is only possible to eliminate the non-self. As the Self is always self-evident, it will shine of itself. "Knowing" means "Being." It is not relative knowledge.

Progress can be spoken of in reference to things to be attained, whereas here it is the removal of ignorance, and not the acquisition of knowledge.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 19, 2014, 10:32:33 AM
Q: How can we get in touch with the Higher Self?

M: Is it something far away that you have to touch it? The Higher Self exists as one, but it is only our thoughts which make us feel it is not. You can neither think about it nor forget it. The Higher Self is always so, whether you follow the path to it or not. Divine existence is our very nature.

Q: How can we get rid of these false thoughts?

M: You have unnecessarily loaded yourself with so many thoughts -- that is the trouble! Just exist as you really are and those thoughts will die away by themselves. To whom do these thoughts and emotions arise? As you have got into the habit of thinking, it is difficult to break it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 20, 2014, 01:22:10 AM
Q: Can I go on thinking "I am God?" Is that right practice?

M: Why think that? In fact you are God. But who goes around saying, "I am a man," "I am a male?" Of course, if there were any contrary thoughts that had to be refuted, such as, "I am an animal," then you might say, "I am a man." To the extent of crushing the wrong notion that one is this or that, according to one's erroneous fancies, you may indulge in the thought, but when the practice is over, the result will be no thought at all but merely Self-realization. There is no need of or meaning in thought at that stage; it is beyond conceptual thought.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 21, 2014, 12:54:42 AM
Q: If Self is Itself conscious, why am I not aware even now?

M: Your present knowledge is due to ego and is only relative. Relative knowledge requires a subject and object, whereas awareness of the Self is absolute and requires no object. Remembrance is also relative. It requires an object to be remembered and another to remember it. When there are no longer two things, who is to remember whom?

That which is beyond knowledge and ignorance is the Atman (the Self).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 24, 2014, 10:29:54 AM
Q: Up to what point should I carry out the inquiry?

M: You must continue this demolition of wrong ideas by inquiry until your last wrong notion is demolished. Until the Self is realized.

The most valuable thing in the ocean lies on its floor. The pearl is tiny and yet so valuable and difficult to procure. The Self is like the pearl: to find it you must dive deep, into the silence, deeper and ever deeper, until it is reached.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 25, 2014, 01:36:03 AM
Q: How did avidya arise?

M: Avidya is like maya "that which is not." Therefore the question does not arise. It is better to ask, "Whose avidya is it?" Avidya is ignorance. It implies subject and object. Become the subject and there will be no object.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 26, 2014, 01:18:32 AM
M: The scriptures say both that the Self is perfect and that the removal of ignorance is necessary. This may appear contradictory, but they are for the guidance of earnest seekers, who cannot yet understand the plain truth. Krishna plainly said that people confuse him with the body whereas he was not born nor will he die.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 27, 2014, 10:39:46 AM
The Self is simple Being. Be! and there will be an end to ignorance. The "I" is always there. There is no knowing it. It is not new knowledge to be acquired. There is an obstruction to its knowledge called ignorance. Remove it. Ignorance and knowledge are not for the Self: they should be cleared away.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 28, 2014, 10:38:17 AM
Q: Why don't I realize the Self?

M: The fact is that all the while you do know the Self. How can the Self not know the Self? Only you, the Self, have got into the habit of thinking that you are a third thing. You need to get rid of the wrong notion of the Self. In the case of the ever-present, inescapable "I," how can you be ignorant? You must fight to get rid of your false notions of "I," one after another. Do that! That will lead to Self-realization.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 31, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
M: Who is ignorant of what? Ask the question and pursue the inquiry on who is said to be ignorant. Once you put the question, try probing into the "I" and the "I" will disappear. What remains is true Self-knowledge.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 01, 2014, 10:31:09 AM
M: Again, what is avidya . Ignorance of Self! But who is ignorant of Self? The Self must be ignorant of Self. Are there two selves?

What is it that is born? Not the true Self. Once we are born into That it is final; that is the true and only birth, the spiritual birth. The others are mere fleeting incarnations of the vasanas (inherent tendencies). If it were not for the body, we would not talk of the spirit being within us; we would be the true Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 02, 2014, 10:40:24 AM
Q: I understand this but do not realize it.

M: Because you are in diversity, you say you have flashes of insight. You consider this diversity to be real. But Unity alone is real. This diversity must go before Unity reveals Itself -- Its reality. It is always real. It does not send flashes into the false diversity. On the contrary, this diversity obstructs the truth. Realization is ever present, not absent at one time and present at another. For example, the sun does not see darkness, but others speak of darkness vanishing at its approach. Similarly, ignorance is a phantom. When its unreal nature is discovered, it is said to be removed. Again the sun is there and you are surrounded by sunlight, but to know this you must turn your eyes in its direction and look at it. So, also, the Self is found by practice alone, although it is here and now.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 03, 2014, 10:31:16 AM
Q: How does the mistake of wrong identification come about?

M: See if it has come about! The ego does not exist.

Q: What should I do to get into that state of Self?

M: No effort is required to be in that state. What is required is to give up all false ideas. Whenever the idea comes, trace out to whom it occurs. When a new thought comes, trace it out by analysis. In the course of time all thoughts are destroyed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 04, 2014, 10:29:56 AM
Q: Suppose the idea is a desire for a certain object?

M: Objects are many but the subject is one. Practice along the same lines: trace out to whom the desire comes.

Concentration and all other practices are meant for recognizing the absence -- i.e. the non-existence -- of ignorance. No one can deny their own existence.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 07, 2014, 10:24:51 AM
M: Existence is knowledge, awareness. That implies absence of ignorance. And yet people suffer why? Because they think they are this or that. That is wrong. I AM alone is, and not "I am so and so." When existence is seen as absolute that is correct, when it is particularized, it is wrong. That is the whole truth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 08, 2014, 10:36:33 AM
M: Does a man look into a mirror to know he exists? It is his awareness which makes him admit it, but he confuses it with the body. In sleep he still exists, even without the body. Hold that awareness. You cannot see your own eyes, yet do you deny their existence? Similarly, even though the Self is not objectified, you are aware of it. Who is to know the Self? Can the body know it? Your duty is to be, not to be this or that.

The method is summed up in "Be still." It means destroy yourself, because any form is the cause of trouble. When the "I" is maintained as "I" only, not "I" am this," or "I am that," it is the Self; when it flies off at a tangent, it is the ego. The real Self will not, and cannot, ask these questions. All these discussions are a matter of competence, of ripeness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 09, 2014, 10:38:21 AM
Q: Where did ignorance arise from?

M: There is nothing like ignorance. It never arises. Everyone is jnana svarupi (Self-abiding). It is just that jnana (knowledge of Self) does not come easily. The dispelling of ignorance is jnana, which always exists. It is like the necklace, supposedly lost, which remains around the owner's neck, or the ten fools each counting all nine others, but failing to count themselves. To whom is knowledge or ignorance?

Your nature is Bliss. Ignorance is now hiding that Bliss. Remove the ignorance for Bliss to be freed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 10, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
M: The life-current originates in the Heart. This Heart is not the physiological organ of that name, but a spiritual center near to it. Thus everyone, even a child, of every creed or race, when referring to the "heart" as a metaphor for their deepest feelings will nevertheless point to the breast with their hand. But such discussions as inside or outside the body cannot arise in Self-realization.

When you have found the center, you will find that it encompasses the whole world; if you want, the radius can be extended to your body or to the world. We start with the wrong presumption that the circle is confined to the human form. Locate the center first. To that you always return, and you always remain in it; it is the common center for all humanity when they realize.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 11, 2014, 10:40:15 AM
Q: What is the Heart?

M: It is the seat (if such may be said) of the Self. It is not the physical heart.

Q: Is "Heart" the same as the physiological heart?

M: No. All this is meant to help the aspirant. It is only the source of the "I"-thought. That is the ultimate truth. Seek your source. The search takes you automatically to the Heart.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 14, 2014, 01:10:28 AM
M: The spiritual Heart is different from the physical heart; beating is the phenomenon only of the latter. The former is the seat of experience. Just as a dynamo supplies motive power to whole systems of lights, fans etc., so the original shakti (energy of the divine) supplies energy to the beating of the heart, respiration etc.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 15, 2014, 11:09:25 AM
Q: How can you say that the heart is on the right when anatomists find it on the left?

M: It is not denied that the physical organ is on the left, but the Heart of which I speak is on the right. It is my experience. No authority is required. But still, you can find confirmation in the Sita Upanishad, where there is a mantra that says so.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 16, 2014, 01:47:37 AM
M: The whole cosmos is contained in one pinhole in the Heart. A tiny hole in the heart remains always closed and is opened by vichara (inquiry). The result is "I-I" consciousness, the same as samadhi (absorption in Self).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 17, 2014, 01:33:07 AM
Q: The Heart is said to be on the right, on the left, or in the center. With such differences of opinion, how are we to meditate on it?

M: Know that you are! And it is a fact that dhyana (meditation) is by you, of you and in you. It must go on where you are. It cannot be outside you. So you are the center of dhyana and that is the Heart. A location is given to it only with reference to the body.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 18, 2014, 06:02:36 AM
M: Where are you? You are in the body and not out of it. Although you pervade the whole body, still you admit there is a center where all your thoughts start and in which they subside. Even when the limbs are amputated, or if the senses are defective, you are still there. So a center of consciousness must be admitted. That is called the Heart.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 21, 2014, 02:56:01 AM
M: "Heart" is only another name for the Self. Doubts arise only when you identify it with something tangible and physical. The Heart is not a concept nor an object for meditation, but as the seat of meditation, it is the Self and stands alone.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 22, 2014, 01:49:06 AM
Q: How can the all-immanent God reside in the Heart?

M: Do we not reside in one place? Do you not say you are in your body? Similarly, God is said to reside in the Heart. The Heart is not a place. Some name is mentioned for the place of God because we think we are in the body. This kind of instruction is meant for those who can appreciate only relative knowledge.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 23, 2014, 01:23:41 AM
M: Being immanent everywhere, there is no place for God. Because we think we are in the body, we also believe that we are born. However, we do not think of the body, of God, or of a method of realization in our deep sleep. Yet in our waking state, we hold onto the body and think we are in it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 24, 2014, 10:33:37 AM
M: Paramatman is that from which the body is born, in which it lives, and into which it resolves. We, however, think that we reside within the body, hence, such instruction is given. The instruction means, Look within. The Heart is not physical. Meditation should not be on the right or the left. Meditation should be on the Self. Everyone knows "I am." Who is the "I"? It will be neither within nor without, neither on the right nor the left. "I am," that is all.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 25, 2014, 10:32:12 AM
M: The Heart is the center from which everything springs. Because you now see the world, the body etc, it is said that there is a center for them called the Heart. But when actually in it, the Heart is neither in the center nor at the circumference as then there is nothing else.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 28, 2014, 10:33:00 AM
M: During my trance, related in Self Realization, I had a very clear experience. All of a sudden a light came from one side, erasing the view of the world until it spread all around, and the vision of the world was completely gone. I felt the muscular organ of the heart had stopped. I understood that the body was like a corpse, and that the blood circulation had stopped; the body became blue and motionless. Vasudeva Sastri embraced me (the body), weeping over my death, but I could not speak. All the time I was feeling that the Heart center on the right was working as well as ever. This state continued for twenty minutes. Then suddenly something shot out from the right to the left like a rocket bursting in the air. The blood circulation started up again and normality was restored. The Heart is thus the center of the body. It can be felt in the absence of the body, but it is said to be a center because we have been accustomed to thinking that we remain in the body. In fact, the body and all else are in that center only. In this experience I was not, as stated in the book, unconscious, but was aware all along. I could feel the action of the physical heart stop and equally the action of the Heart center unimpaired.
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Post by: ramanaduli on April 29, 2014, 07:50:24 AM
Dear sir,

The center which Maharishi says, the same center is worshiped a "BINDU' in Sri chakra,  is it? I think both are same,


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 29, 2014, 10:56:36 AM
Q: How is the mind to dive into the Heart?

M: The mind now sees itself diversified in the universe. If the diversity is not manifest, it remains in its own essence. That is the Heart. The Heart is the only truth. Mind is only a transient phase. Because people identify with the body, they see the world as separate from themselves. This wrong identification arises because they have lost their moorings and swerved from their original state. You are now advised to give up all these false ideas, and to trace your source and remain as the Self. In that state there are no differences and no questions will arise.
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Post by: Subramanian.R on April 29, 2014, 11:42:41 AM
Dear ramanaduli,

The bindu of Sri Chakra is different from what Sri Bhagavan refers to as Heart Center.  It is again, only for the beginners.
It is on the right side of the chest.  Once you know that Heart, (Paramatma) is everywhere, then this Heart Center
also loses its significance.

Arunachala Siva. 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 30, 2014, 01:26:22 AM
yes well said subramanian garu.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 30, 2014, 01:28:21 AM
M: All the Sastras (scriptures) are intended simply to make us retrace our steps to the original source. There is no need to gain anything. We must simply give up false ideas and useless accretions. Instead of doing this, we try to catch hold of something strange and mysterious, believing that happiness lies elsewhere. That is the mistake.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 01, 2014, 12:40:32 AM
M: If one remains as the Self, there is Bliss. People probably think that being quiet does not bring about the state of Bliss. That is due to their ignorance. The only practice is to find out to whom these questions arise.
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Post by: ramanaduli on May 01, 2014, 10:26:52 AM
Dear sir,

It is very difficult to find out who is in bliss state. Many people misunderstand that Maharishi says to be  SUMMA IRU, So they do not work. It brings laziness in them. I think we have to do our karma but in expecting the result we have to be SUMMA. It is like akarma in karma.


Ramanaduli
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 01, 2014, 11:07:53 AM
Yes well said ramanaduli garu. Being lazines surely is not like SUMMA IRU. Bhagavan ramana was always busy with one work or other(kitchen work,going round the hill,answering questions of devotees,attending nature calls,sleep,listening to vedas....) even though he was not doing any official day job.

So inshort making sure we can get on in life with simple life with no attachments to any material comforts is the aim i.e vairagya.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 02, 2014, 11:10:45 AM
Consciousness of the Self is the normal state; our present entanglement is the abnormal state. We imagine that we have to develop towards a perfect state, when we are already in it now, but have covered it with external things and thoughts. People talk of attaining the super-consciousness, but this is wrong. This Self is our normal consciousness; we imagine we have to develop and attain it, but we are in it all the time, it is just that our attention is diverted away from it to the intellect and to objects.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 05, 2014, 02:26:38 AM
Anything which has to be attained is not the Reality, not the truth. We are already the Reality, the truth. There is nothing to get really. It is here now.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 06, 2014, 10:23:45 AM
When one realizes the seer, there is nothing else to be seen, no other place one wishes to go and visit. The seer, the object seen, and the act of seeing, all these now merge into one, "I", the substratum of all.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 07, 2014, 10:22:09 AM
The state of Realization is like a straight main road, and the intellect and the senses are the jungle. We are all wandering about in the jungle. It is difficult to get to the main road, but once there the way is straight and easy. That is why I say this Realization of the Self is easy.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 08, 2014, 10:25:41 AM
Being is our nature. So what do we have to find? When we know ourselves, we are not troubled by thoughts or desires any longer. These are not our true state. We do not have to find ourselves, but simply to BE ourselves, to be what we truly are - free from thoughts and egoism.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 09, 2014, 02:05:40 AM
To attain this Self-realization, the means are:

(a) diverting the mind from its object and ceasing the objective view of the world;
(b) bringing to an end the mind's internal activities;
(c) rendering the mind characterless;
(d) resting the mind in pure vichara (inquiry).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 12, 2014, 02:03:29 AM
The Maharshi once told how he got realization. On the day his father died he felt puzzled by death and pondered over it for hours, while his mother and brothers wept. By analysis, he reached the perception that it was the "I" which makes the body see, run, walk and eat. "'I' now know this, but my father's 'I' has left the body." That day he got jnana (knowledge of the Self).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 14, 2014, 10:30:23 AM
M: You have lost hold of your Self. Turn inwards. If you look for the mind's source, it will vanish leaving the Self behind. You will become conscious of it later but that does not mean that your nature is different from meditation even now.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 15, 2014, 01:55:53 AM
M: Stillness or peace is realization. There is no moment when the Self is not. So long as there is doubt or the feeling of non-realization, an attempt must be made to rid oneself of these thoughts. The thoughts are due to identification of the Self with the non-self. When non-self disappears, the Self alone remains. To make room, it is enough that cramping is removed. Space is not created afresh. No! -- more than that -- space is there, even in the cramping.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 16, 2014, 10:24:25 AM
Q: What are the hindrances to the realization of Reality?

M: Memory, chiefly, plus habits of thought and accumulated tendencies.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 20, 2014, 09:48:50 AM
Q: How can we get rid of these hindrances?

M: Discover the Self through meditation, by tracing every thought back to its origin, which is the mind. Never allow thought to continue. If it does, it will be unending; take it back to its source which is mind, and they (thoughts and mind) will die of inaction, for the mind only exists by thought; take away thought and there is no mind. As each doubt and depression arises, ask yourself, "Who is it that doubts? Who is it that is depressed?" Tear everything away until there is nothing but the source left. Live only in the present.


M: Realization is already here. The state free from thoughts is the one real state. There is no such action as realization.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 21, 2014, 05:28:07 AM
M: Is there anyone who is not realizing the Self? Does anyone deny their existence? Because we admit our existence, how is it that we do not know our Self? It is thoughts that separate us from our happiness. How do we know that we exist? If you say it is because of the world around us, then how do you know that you existed in sleep?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 22, 2014, 10:07:05 AM
Q: How is realization made possible?

M: There is the absolute Self from which a spark comes out as from a fire. The spark is called ego. In the case of the ignorant it identifies itself with some object as it arises. It cannot remain independent of such association. This association is ignorance: destroying it is the object of our efforts. If the ego's objectifying tendency is killed, it remains pure and merges in its source. The quest "Who am I?" is the axe to chop off the ego.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 23, 2014, 09:54:18 AM
Q: How is realization made possible? (Answered on another occasion)

M: The questioner does not agree with me. He asked how to realize the Self, and when I told him, he was not satisfied because I gave him the simple truth. He wants something unusual and unnecessary, so the best thing for me is to keep silent. Let him try his own methods.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 26, 2014, 02:10:41 AM
Q: I long for bhakti (devotion). I want more of this longing. Even realization does not matter for me. Let me be strong in my longing.

M: If the longing is there, realization will be forced on you even if you do not want it. It is the doorway for realization.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 27, 2014, 09:59:43 AM
Q: Is it necessary to develop qualities?

M: That is only for beginners. For the advanced ones it is enough to look into their nature. This is the direct method. In all other paths the ego is involved. This alone answers the question of what the ego is. Yoga Vasishta* says that the quest "Who am I?" is the axe which, when struck at the roots of the ego, destroys it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 28, 2014, 01:38:17 AM
M: In fact, there may not be any individual in the world possessing all the qualities of perfection necessary for a seeker as mentioned in the Yoga Sutras (doctrine) etc, but the pursuit of atma jnana (knowledge of the Self) should not be abandoned. We are all the Self by aparoksha (immediate, direct, i.e. not through the media of the senses), although we may not be aware of it; instead, we identify the Self with the body and feel miserable.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 29, 2014, 01:54:59 AM
Q: I fear that it is no easy thing to reach that ultimate goal.

M: Why stultify yourself by fear and concerns of the success or failure of your course? Push on! Give yourself up to deep meditation. Throw away all other considerations. The pre-meditated life will not be crowned with spiritual success.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on May 30, 2014, 09:42:36 AM
Q: Can I realize the Self? It seems so difficult.

M: You are already the Self. Therefore realization is for everyone. Realization knows no difference in the aspirants. This very doubt -- whether I can realize or the feeling I have not realized, is the obstacle. Be free from this. Whenever you get that thought about difficulty, dispose of it altogether by trying to find out from where it arises.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 02, 2014, 01:47:30 AM
Q: Nevertheless, unless I have the experience, how can I be free from these conflicting thoughts?

M: These are also in the mind. They are there because you have identified yourself with the body. If this false identity drops away, ignorance will vanish and truth will be revealed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 03, 2014, 01:43:37 AM
Q: Doesn't bhakti (devotion) imply duality?

M: Bhakti and Self-realization are the same. The Self of the advaitins (those who follow the path of non-duality) is the God of the bhaktas (those who follow the path of devotion). Just as the individual body comprises the soul, the ego and the gross body, so also God comprises paramatman (the Self), world and individuals.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 04, 2014, 09:09:30 AM
M: Being the Self, why does one continue to crave for happiness? To be rid of that craving is itself salvation. The scriptures say, "You are That." To reveal the import of that knowledge is their proper purpose. The realization must be finding out who you are and abiding as that "I." To be saying, "I am this and not that," is only a waste of time. For the worthy disciple, the work is inside himself and not outside.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 05, 2014, 09:21:20 AM
M: As we are already in Tiruvannamalai, it would be ridiculous to ask someone the way here. So, being the Self and asking how to realize it, is also absurd. Remain in the Self. That is all. The "I" is the fundamental basis; and by knowing this all else is known.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 06, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
Q: How is "I-I" consciousness felt?

M: As an unbroken awareness of "I." It is simply Consciousness. You are That even now. There will be no mistaking It, when pure.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 09, 2014, 04:23:35 AM
Q: Can that Consciousness give any pleasure?

M: Its nature is pleasure. Pleasure alone is. There is no one to enjoy the pleasure: both the enjoyer and the pleasure are merged in it. Pleasure is turning and keeping the mind within; pain is sending it outward. Absence of pleasure is called pain. One's nature is pleasure, i.e. Bliss.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 10, 2014, 02:32:05 AM
M: It is not the soul which yearns for realization, as the latter is always there. Do you deny yourself? No. Then the Self exists. It is only the ego which seeks.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 11, 2014, 01:22:29 AM
M: In the Yoga Vasistha* it says that what is real is hidden from us, but what is false is revealed as true. Actually, we are experiencing only the Reality, but we do not know it. Isn't it the wonder of wonders?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 13, 2014, 03:51:29 AM
M: When I had the "death" experience as a lad, I entered into the Self and since then I have not "progressed" or moved one iota. It has remained the same ever since - there has been no development.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 13, 2014, 03:54:38 AM
Q: Are our attempts sure to succeed?

M: Realization is our nature. It is nothing new to be gained. What is new cannot be eternal, therefore there is no need to doubt whether one will gain or lose the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 16, 2014, 09:36:45 AM
Q: How long will it take to gain chintamani the celestial gem that grants all one's wishes?

M: The example of chintamani is found in Yoga Vasishta (an advaitic text). Chintamani signifies the real nature of the Self. The story is as follows. A man was doing tapas (penance, religious austerities) in order to gain chintamani. A gem mysteriously fell into his hands, but he thought that it could not possibly be the chintamani because his effort had been too short and too little to gain the gem. He discarded it and continued with his tapas. Later, a sadhu (ascetic, spiritual seeker) placed before him a brilliant pebble cut into shape. The man was taken in by its appearance but found that it could not fulfill his desire as had been claimed. Similarly, as the Self is inherent, it should not be looked for elsewhere.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 17, 2014, 02:08:43 AM
Q: How is purna (perfection) Brahman (the Supreme Being) to be attained? What is the method best suited to a grihasta (householder)?

M: You already have the purna (i.e. perfection). Are you apart from purna? If you were, would it be purna? And if not, how could the question arise? The knowledge that purna Brahman and you are not apart from each other, is the finality. See it, and you will find that you are not a grihasta or any limited being. Knowledge of this will elucidate other matters automatically.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 18, 2014, 01:54:58 AM
Q: How can I keep the idea of that real state always before me?

M: Because you are not able to hold onto that single idea, because you are not firm, you think you are a body! The idea that you must go to Tiruvannamalai and see the Maharshi is only a function of the intellect. No help is required. You are already in your original state; how can anyone help you to arrive where you already are? The help given is really to clear out your wrong notions. The great ones, the gurus can help only by removing the obstacles in your way.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 19, 2014, 09:31:30 AM
The true state is Consciousness without content. The Western psychologists who deny this and say consciousness must have an object are quite correct, as far as the individual and mental consciousness are concerned, but they are incorrect when they apply it to universal Being.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 20, 2014, 12:02:49 AM
Q: If "I" am always here and now, why don't I feel it?

M: That's the point! Who says that it is not felt? Does the real "I" say it or the false "I"? Examine it. You will find it is the wrong "I." The wrong "I" is the obstruction. It has to be removed in order that the true "I" might not be hidden.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 23, 2014, 09:30:49 AM
M: The feeling, "I have not realized," is the obstruction to realization. In fact, you are already realized; there is nothing to realize. If there were, it would have to be something new, not existing so far, that would occur sometime in the future.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 24, 2014, 01:18:47 AM
M: What has birth will also die. If realization were not eternal it would not be worth having. Therefore, what we seek is not that which must happen afresh. It is only that which is eternal and which is not known, due to obstructions; that is what we seek. Ignorance is the obstruction. Remove it, and all will be well.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 25, 2014, 01:28:19 AM
M: The ignorance is identical with the "I"-thought. Find its source and it will vanish. The "I"-thought is like a spirit which is not palpable, and it rises up simultaneously with the body, flourishes on it and disappears with it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 26, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
M: The body-consciousness is the wrong "I." Give it up! This is done by seeking the source of the "I." The body does not say "I am." It is you who says, "I am the body." Find out who this "I" is. Seeking its source, it will vanish.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 27, 2014, 12:51:52 AM
Q: What is to be our sadhana (spiritual practice)?

M: The sahaja (natural) of siddha (the perfected sage)! Sahaja is the original state so that sadhana amounts to the removal of obstacles for the realization of this abiding truth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on June 30, 2014, 09:33:47 AM
M: By repeated practice one can become accustomed to turning inwards and finding the Self. One must always and constantly make an effort, until one has permanently realized. Once the effort ceases, the state becomes natural and the Supreme takes possession of the person with an unbroken current. Until it has become permanently natural and your habitual state, know that you have not realized the Self, only glimpsed it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 01, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
M: The soul that realizes the Self may still be connected with a working body, senses, and mind, without identifying itself with that body. There can be satisfaction only when you reach the Source, otherwise there will be restlessness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 02, 2014, 02:02:51 AM
All metaphysical discussion is fruitless unless it causes us to seek within the Self for the true Reality. One can, and often does, go through numerous books, a whole library perhaps, and yet comes out without the faintest realization of what one is. Learning often renders a disservice, especially when it causes a person's ego and pride to develop; these prove to be serious obstacles to progress.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 03, 2014, 09:32:37 AM
Science is exploring the external universe, when it has not yet explored the Self. Inventions are being made constantly; they will never cease, as we can go on inventing one new thing after another. What is the use? All this is maya (illusion). Turn inwards and know your Self first.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 04, 2014, 09:35:48 AM
All these notes you are making of my sayings and so on, are useful for beginners, for friends and to answer the questions of others. But for yourself, you know that they are only pieces of paper. Dive into the Self and find all you want to know there!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 07, 2014, 02:05:09 AM
All controversies about creation, the nature of the universe, evolution, the purpose of God etc, are useless. They do not lead to true happiness. People try to find out about things which are outside themselves before they try to find out "Who am I?" Only by this means can they gain happiness -- not by understanding the whole universe, for the Self is happiness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 07, 2014, 11:56:40 PM
Q: After some time in meditation I find that thought dies away and stillness reigns. Within that stillness, I am aware of a tiny seed or point in my breast or heart upon which all my attention is centered. Is this the Self you mention?

M: Yes, that is the Self, though you have to go deeper to perfect your realization. Hold onto it. Do not lose the current. Do not lose it by having the wrong idea that "I am meditating on the Self," or "I am meditating on something else." At such a point try to remember that you are the Self, that this stillness is your natural condition. Watch vigilantly that you do not wander away from it.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 09, 2014, 09:34:14 AM
M: The intricate maze of philosophy of different schools is said to clarify matters and reveal the truth. But in fact, they create confusion where none need exist. To understand anything there must be the Self. The Self is obvious. Why not remain as the Self?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 10, 2014, 09:27:54 AM
M: What need is there to explain the non-self? Take Vedanta, for instance: they say there are fifteen kinds of prana (breath, vital force, the upward flow of energy). The student is made to memorize their names and functions. The air goes up and is called prana, and when it comes down it is called apana (the downward flow of energy); it operates the indriyas (organs of sense) and is called something else. Why all this? Why do you classify, give names and enumerate the functions, and so on? Is it not enough to know that one prana does the whole work? The antahkarana (mind; the seat of thought and feeling) thinks, desires, wills, reasons etc, and each function is attributed to one name such as mind or intellect. Has anyone seen the pranas or the antahkaranas. Have they any real being? They are mere concepts. When and where will they end?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 11, 2014, 09:24:47 AM
M: Consider this: A man sleeps. He says on waking that he slept. The question is asked, "Why does he not say in his sleep that he is sleeping?" The answer is given that he is sunk in the Self and cannot speak, like somebody diving into a pool to bring something up from the bottom. The diver cannot speak. When he has actually recovered the article and emerges from the water, he speaks. Well, what is the explanation? When he is immersed in the water, it would gush into his mouth if he were to open it to speak. It's simple, isn't it? But the philosopher is not content with this simple fact. He explains it by saying that fire is the deity that presides over speech, and that it is inimical to water and therefore cannot function. This is called philosophy and students are struggling to learn all this. Isn't it a sheer waste of time? Again the gods are said to preside over the limbs and senses of the individual. So they talk about hiranyagarba (cosmic egg), etc. Why should confusion be created and then explained away? Those who do not involve themselves in this maze are lucky. I was very fortunate that I never took to it. If I had, I would probably be nowhere, always in confusion. Fortunately, my vasanas (inherent tendencies and conditioning) took me directly to the "Who am I?" enquiry.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 14, 2014, 03:35:06 AM
Q: What about scientific knowledge?

M: All relative knowledge belongs to the mind, not the Self. It is therefore illusory, not permanent. A scientist who formulates the theory that the earth is round, for instance, may prove it incontrovertibly, but when he falls asleep the whole idea vanishes: his mind is left blank. What does it matter if the world is round or flat when he is asleep? So you see the futility of all such relative knowledge. Real knowledge is to go beyond all relative knowledge and abide in the Self. Realize that the Self transcends intellect; the intellect itself must vanish to reach the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 15, 2014, 09:25:24 AM
M: The jnanis (one who has realized the Self) point out that the yogi assumes the existence of the body and its separateness from the Self, and therefore advises effort for their reunion by the practice of yoga. In fact, the body is in the mind, which is seated in the brain; the brain functions by light borrowed from another source, as admitted by the yogis themselves in their fontanelle theory (that the life-current enters the body through the fontanelle, the soft spot in the head at birth). The jnani argues that if the light is borrowed, it must come from its original source. Go to the source directly and do not depend upon borrowed resources. An iron ball needs fire to come into being separate from the mass of iron. Later, it cools down relinquishing the fire, but it must be heated once again if it is to reunite with the mass. So, the cause of separation from the Self must also be its means of union.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 16, 2014, 09:09:31 AM
M: Again, if there is an image reflected, there must be a source and also accessories like the sun and a pot of water for reflection. To remove the reflection, either the surface can be covered up -- corresponding to reaching the fontanelle (the soft spot in the head at birth), according to the yogis -- or the water can be drained away which is called tapas (austerity), i.e. the thoughts or the brain activities are made to cease: this is jnana marga (path of knowledge).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 17, 2014, 09:26:54 AM
M: All these, however, are based on the assumption that the jiva (soul) is separate from the Self or Brahman. But are we separate? "No," says the jnani (one who has realized the Self).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 18, 2014, 09:44:34 AM
M: The ego is simply wrong identification of the Self with the non-self, as in the case of a colourless crystal and its coloured background. The crystal, though colourless, appears red because of its background. If the background is removed, the crystal shines in its original purity. So it is with the Self and the antahkaranas (mind).

Still again, the illustration is not quite appropriate. For the ego has its source in the Self and is not separate like the background to the crystal. That source is the Heart, the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 21, 2014, 02:02:35 AM
M: Let us not begin to exercise our intellect upon Atman, trying to find out what sort of self-effulgence it is, whether it is this kind or that kind. It is this sort of discursive thought that constitutes our bondage.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 22, 2014, 01:45:52 AM
M: I never knew of these philosophical conundrums and controversies and problems until I came to Tiruvannamalai and people began to pester me. Up till then I had never concerned myself with them. I never knew any system of philosophy. All these systems have evolved out of the one simple fact of realization. Therefore, seek realization, practice vichara (inquiry), and do not worry about philosophies and systems and problems.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 23, 2014, 09:40:56 AM
1. Question: You say one can realize the Self by a search for it. What is the character of this search?

Bhagavan: You are the mind, or think you are the mind. The mind is nothing but thoughts. However, behind every particular thought there is a general knowing that is pure Awareness, which is your true Self. Let us all simply hold firmly to this "I," the first thought. Stick to this "I"-thought and question it, to find out "From whence is it." When this question takes strong hold on you, you cannot think of any other thoughts; stick only with this single "I"-thought.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 24, 2014, 01:29:36 AM
2. Question: When I do like this, and cling to my self, i.e. the "I"-thought, then other thoughts do come and go, but I say to myself, "Who am I?" and there is no answer forthcoming. To be in this condition (where there is mind, but no thought) is itself the sadhana (method of spiritual practice). Is it so?

Bhagavan: No. This is a mistake that people often make. What happens when you make a serious quest for the Self is that the "I"-thought, as a thought, disappears; then something else from the depths takes hold of you. However, that is not the "I" with which you first commenced the quest.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 25, 2014, 01:39:42 AM
3. Question: What is this something else?

Bhagavan: That is the real Self, the import of "I." It is not the ego. It is the Supreme Being itself.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 28, 2014, 01:35:56 AM
4. Question: What is the way to get rid of other thoughts?

Bhagavan: They can only be removed through the powerful effect of the inquiry, "To whom have these thoughts come?" and then abiding in the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 29, 2014, 09:39:29 AM
5. Question: In Self-Inquiry, to whom is the question "Who am I?" addressed?

Bhagavan: To whomever or whatever you are, is given the way for finding out your true identity. The ego-self, when it feels the necessity to know its own origin; or is, for whatever reason, impelled to rise above itself, takes the suggestion and goes deeper; and there, discovers the true source and reality of itself. So, the ego-self of first, in beginning to know itself, ends in perceiving its Self. It is therefore the ego, or body-mind, that begins the quest.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 30, 2014, 09:31:16 AM
6. Question: If I go on rejecting thoughts as they arise, can I call it vichara (the practice of Self-Inquiry)?

Bhagavan: It may be a start or a stepping-stone; but really, vichara begins when you hold firmly to your (true) Self and are already off the mental movement or succession of thought-waves.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on July 31, 2014, 01:57:58 AM
7. Question: Is rejection of thoughts not necessary?

Bhagavan: No. It may be necessary for a time or for some. You fancy that there is no end if one goes on rejecting every thought when it arises. No. There is an end. If you are vigilant, and make a sustained effort to reject every thought when it rises, you will soon find that you are going deeper and deeper into your own inner self, where there is no need for your effort to reject the thoughts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 01, 2014, 09:37:31 AM
8. Question: Then it is possible to be without effort, without strain?

Bhagavan: Not only that, it is impossible for you to make an effort beyond a certain extent.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 04, 2014, 09:25:17 AM
9. Question: I want to be further enlightened. Should I try to make no effort at all?

Bhagavan: Here (or now) it is impossible for you to be without effort. When you go deeper, it is impossible for you to make any effort.

10. Question: Then I can dispense with outside help and by my own effort get into the deeper truth by myself?

Bhagavan: True. However, the very fact that you are possessed of the quest of the Self is a manifestation of the Divine Grace. It is effulgent (self-shining) in the Heart, the inner being, the Real Self. It draws you from within. You have to attempt to get it from without. Your attempt is vichara (the practice of Self-Inquiry).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 05, 2014, 01:24:59 AM
11. Question: Then vichara (the practice of Self-Inquiry) is not intellectual?

Bhagavan: No, it is anthara vichara, or the inner quest.

12. Question: What is the practice?

Bhagavan: To stick to a single position un-assailed by thoughts is abhyasa (practice) or sadhana (a method of spiritual practice), you are (thereby being) watchful. But, the condition grows intense and deeper when your effort and all responsibilities are taken away from you; that is arudha (attainment), or the siddha (perfect) state.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 06, 2014, 09:37:50 AM
13. Question: Can a man move about, act, and speak as one who has attained the siddhi (perfection) as is now described?

Bhagavan: Why not? Do you mean to say that realization of the Self means to be like a stone, or to become nothing?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 07, 2014, 09:26:12 AM
14. Question: I do not know, but they say that to withdraw from all sense-activity, from all thoughts, all life-experiences, i.e., to cease to be active, is the highest state.

Bhagavan: If so, what is the difference between this state and deep sleep? Besides, if it is a state, however exalted it be, that appears and disappears and is, therefore, not natural and normal to the self, how can that represent eternal presence of the supreme Self, which persists in all states and indeed survives them? It is true that there is such a state.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 08, 2014, 01:04:57 AM
16. Question: What certainty is there, that something else waits there to welcome me?

Bhagavan: When one is a sufficiently developed soul, he becomes naturally convinced.

17. Question: How is this development possible?

Bhagavan: Various answers are given. However, whatever the previous development, vichara (an earnest inquiry or quest into the true nature of the self) quickens the development.

18.   Question: That is arguing in a circle. I am developed and so am strong for the quest. The quest itself gives my development.

Bhagavan: The mind always has this sort of difficulty. It wants a certain, definite theory to satisfy itself. Really, no theory is necessary for the man who seriously desires to approach God, or to realize his own true being.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 08, 2014, 11:02:30 PM
15. Question: Do you mean the Atman (Self) is God?

Bhagavan: You see the difficulty. The vichara (quest) "to know the self" is different in method from the meditation "Shivoham" or "Soham," (I am Siva [God] or He I am). I rather lay stress upon self-knowledge. For, you are first concerned with yourself before you proceed to know the world and its Lord. The "Soham" meditation or "I am Braham" meditation is more or less a mental thought. But the quest for the Self I speak of is a direct method, indeed superior to the other meditation. For, the moment you get into the quest for the Self, and go deeper and deeper, the real Self is waiting there to take you in; and then, whatever is done, is done by something else and you have no hand in it. In this process, all doubts and discussions are automatically given up, just as one who sleeps forgets for the time being all his cares.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 11, 2014, 01:46:28 AM
19. Question: I am doing propaganda work by publishing religious teachings. I do japa, mantra, writing, singing the praises and exploits of the Lord, study, and instructions. Should I continue with this or not? In other words, while I am conducting the inquiry "Who am I?" should I continue with all the above work?

Bhagavan: If you want to do all these works and are able to do so without giving up Self-Inquiry, you may do so. The work will go on in accordance with your prarabdha (allotted destiny). You must first, though, understand what is the purpose of japa, (repetition of a mantra or the name of God) of singing and service. Be as you are. Reality is the real japa; japa and God are one. There is identity between the name and the thing named.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 12, 2014, 01:56:30 AM
20. Question: Who am I? To whom does the question refer?

Bhagavan: The question refers to the individual "I."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 13, 2014, 01:24:59 AM
21. Question: Should I say "I am Siva" along with the inquiry "Who am I?" Should I not say, "I am not the mind, intellect, body, etc.?"

Bhagavan: You should not give answers to the mind, in the course of your inquiry. The reply should be allowed to come from within. The reply of the individual "I" is not real. Continue to inquire until you get the answer by the method of Jnana Marga (the path of Knowledge). This inquiry is called meditation. The inactive, peaceful, full-of-knowledge experience that arises from this state is Jnana.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 14, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
22. Question: Who am I? From where (am I)? Should one constantly do japa (repetition) of this with the mind, or should one put the question once or twice before the mind then go deeply into the root of "I" and there stop all thoughts of the world?

Bhagavan: One is NOT to constantly repeat or do japa: "Who am I? Who am I?" Having put the question once before the mind, one should search for the root of the "I" and thereby stop all other thoughts. If a person's name is Dennis, it is not necessary for him to repeat, "I am Dennis, I am Dennis." Similarly, the repetition of the phrases such as "I am Brahman, I am Brahman" is not necessary. In all sadhanas (practices) the mind has to be kept quiet, silent, or still. While doing japa, the mind will not be quiet or still. Instead of practicing like this, the silent seer of the mind, meaning the witness, should be experienced as being the very form of Brahman, and thus Brahman should be experienced as being the witness of all.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 15, 2014, 09:23:06 AM
23. Question: How to control such a mind?

Bhagavan: Except for inquiry into the Self, there is no way that the mind can be controlled; it is destroyed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 18, 2014, 09:39:23 AM
24. Question: If the ultimate Reality is One and Absolute, why does the world appear as an object seen, and as different from the subject who sees it? Who is it that sees the object as distinct from himself, the subject?

Bhagavan: Who is it that is putting this question?

25. Question: One who seeks the Truth.

Bhagavan: Who is he?

26. Question: He who desires to know the Truth.

Bhagavan: Instead of having a mere desire to know the Truth, if he has the anubhava (experience or realization) such questions as these would not arise.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 19, 2014, 09:24:59 AM
27. Question: The trinity (Triputi) of knower, known, and knowledge is an appearance; you say that there is a unity behind it, supporting it. What is this unity, is it a powerful one?

Bhagavan: It is an All-powerful existence.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 20, 2014, 09:40:04 AM
28. Question: How then should I know the "I"?

Bhagavan: By investigation into this question itself, and thereby will you get the experience or atmanubhuti. The ardent desire to know the Truth has a beneficial purpose to serve until one has such experience.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 21, 2014, 09:24:03 AM
29. Question: In spite of having come to the definite conclusion as a result of one's own investigation, that "I" has no essential relation with the non-self i.e., with the body, senses, and the objects perceived by the senses the mind [still] persists in going after these very same things which constitute the non-self. What is it due to and how can it be remedied?

Bhagavan: It is due to a lack of abhyasa and vairagya (practice and dispassion). When Self-Inquiry has become steady [through unswerving] practice, and the spirit of renunciation firm through [reliable] conviction, your mind will be free from the tendency of thinking about the non-self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 22, 2014, 09:24:02 AM
30. Question: Is it enough if I spend some time in the mornings and some time in the evenings for this atma-vichara? (Self-Inquiry) Or, should I do it always say, even when I am writing or walking?

Bhagavan: Now what is your real nature? Is it writing, walking, or being? The one unalterable reality is Being. Until you realize that state of Pure Being, you should pursue the Inquiry. If once you are established in it, there will be no further worry.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 25, 2014, 01:36:18 AM
31. Question: When I read Sri Bhagavan's works, I find that
investigation [Self-Inquiry] is set out to be the one method for Realization.

Bhagavan: Yes, that is the Vichara. The questioner must admit the existence of his Self. "I AM" is the Realization. To pursue the clue till Realization is Vichara. Vichara and Realization are the same. Meditation requires an object to meditate upon, whereas there is only the subject without the object in Vichara. Meditation differs from Vichara in this way.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 26, 2014, 12:53:25 AM
32. Question: What is the truth that I have to attain? Please explain it to me.

Bhagavan: What we have to attain, and what is desired by everyone, is endless happiness. Although we seek to attain it in various ways, it is [usually incorrectly looking] to something to be sought or attained as a new experience. [However] our real nature [in its purity] is the "I" feeling, which is always experienced [inwardly] by everyone. It is within us and nowhere else. Although we are always experiencing it, our minds are wandering, always seeking it [outside of us], thinking in ignorance that it is something apart from us. This is like a person saying with his own tongue that he has no tongue.

33. Question: If this is so, why did so many spiritual practices come to be created?

Bhagavan: The sadhanas (spiritual practices) arose only to get rid of the thought that it (the Self) is something to be newly attained. The root of the illusion is the thought that ignores the Self and thinks instead, "I am this body." Once this thought rises, it expands in no time into several thousand thoughts and conceals the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 27, 2014, 01:52:41 AM
34. Question: I am now peacefully sitting [knowing I am], without the thought "I am the body." Is this the state of reality?

Bhagavan: This state must remain as it is without any change. If it changes after a while you will know that other thoughts have not gone.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on August 29, 2014, 01:04:39 AM
35. Question: Because I have too much work to do, I keep forgetting to meditate. If I frequently forget like this, when am I going to make any progress?

Bhagavan: Never mind. Jnana (knowledge) will not come in a day. Samskaras (mental habits) will disappear only gradually. Today we may think every four hours, "Oh, I have forgotten to meditate." Tomorrow we may remember every 3 1/2 hours. The day after, every three hours. In this way enthusiasm for meditation will slowly come.

Why do you think, "Why didn't I meditate?" or "Why didn't I work?" If the thoughts "I did" and "I didn't" are given up, then all actions will end up as meditation. In that state meditation cannot be given up.

36. Question: Mental activity during meditation does not seem to converge at a point, as it should, on the object of meditation; and it does not stay there, but gets diverted into numerous thought channels. Why is this so? How can the mind be made to overcome this tendency towards diffused thinking, and attain its primal state of freedom from thought?

Bhagavan: It is the mind's attachment to objects constituting the non-self, that makes the mind wander about during meditation. Therefore, the mind should be withdrawn from the non-self; and effort should be made to fix it in Self-Inquiry. All extraneous thought is effectively eliminated when you attune the entire mind to the one question, "Who is it that is making the inquiry?"
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 01, 2014, 02:16:55 AM
37.  Question:  In spite of having come to the definite conclusion, as a result of one's investigation, that the true "I" has no essential relation with the non-self, i.e., with the body, senses, and the objects perceived by the senses, the mind still persists in going after these very same things that constitute the non-self.  What is it due to; and how can it be remedied?
 
     Bhagavan:  It is due to lack of practice (abhyasa) and dispassion of non-attachment (vairagya). When the Self-Inquiry has become steady through practice, and the spirit of renunciation is firm through conviction, your mind will be free from the tendency of thinking about the non-self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 02, 2014, 09:20:57 AM
38.  Question:  When my mind wanders during meditation, in spite of my attempts to control it, should I give it (meditation) up?
 
      Bhagavan:  One need not abandon meditation, thinking that it is the nature of the mind to wander.  Whatever one practices becomes natural.  If control is practiced persistently, that will become natural.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 03, 2014, 09:03:44 AM
39.  Question:  What method should I use to make my mind steady and firm?
 
     Bhagavan:  It is sufficient to think always of one thing.  If the mind does not obey, again start thinking of only one thing. In the course of time, the mind will obey your orders.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 04, 2014, 09:24:07 AM
40.  Question:  Sometimes there is meditation, at other times there are worldly activities.  What is the difference between the two?
 
    Bhagavan:  To be in meditation and to be in activity are both the same.  It is like calling the same object by its name in two different languages; like the crow only having one eye, but seeing in two different directions; like the elephant using the same trunk for the two activities of breathing and drinking water; like the cobra using its eyes for the two functions of seeing and hearing.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 05, 2014, 09:25:41 AM
41.  Question:  Bhagavan, I have been meditating in your presence for some months, and now I am overcome with fear.  Why?
 
    Bhagavan:  It is the ego that is experiencing the fear; it is due to the feeling that it is gradually losing its grip.  It is dying and may resent it.  [Ask yourself the question], "To whom is the fear?"  It is all due to the experience of identifying the Self with the body. Repeated experience from non-separation will make one familiar with the state, and the fear will automatically vanish.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 08, 2014, 01:46:28 AM
42.  Question:  What is a mind, which has a form and a mind without form?
 
     Bhagavan:  Pure mind is a space of emptiness. Immediately on waking from sleep, a clear awareness arises, without exception in all people.  That is formless mind.  Thoughts such as "I am the body," "This is the world," arise only after that, which is the mind with form. In a cinema show the light appears first, and the forms appear on the screen only after the light. Likewise, the light of the Self comes first and provides space for everything that follows.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 09, 2014, 09:24:21 AM
43. Question:  What you say seems to contradict the statements that the Self is beyond the mind, that the mind cannot know Brahman (the absolute) that it is beyond thought and speech.
 
     Bhagavan:  That is why they say that mind is two fold; there is the higher pure mind as well as the lower impure mind.  The impure mind cannot know this but the pure knows. It does not mean that the pure mind measures the immeasurable Self, the absolute.  It means that the Self makes itself felt in the pure mind, so that even when you are in the midst of thoughts you feel the One Presence; you realize the truth that you are with the deeper Self and that the thought-waves are there only on the surface.
 
44. Question:  That means "mano nasha" or "anankara nasha" (the destruction of the mind or ego) you speak of is then not an absolute destruction?
 
   Bhagavan: Yes.  The mind gets cleared of impurities and becomes pure enough to reflect the supreme truth, the real Self.  This is impossible when the ego is active and assertive.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 10, 2014, 09:13:15 AM
45.  Question:  Even when you clarify the truth, doubts come back.

     Bhagavan:  Doubts never end.  If one doubt is removed, another takes its place. It is like removing the leaves of a tree one by one.  Even if all the leaves are chipped off, new ones grow.  The tree itself must be uprooted.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 11, 2014, 01:05:42 AM
46. Question:  Why is there no progress in my spiritual practices?

    Bhagavan:  Why distress your mind by thinking that knowledge has come, or that such tendencies have not disappeared?  Don't give room to any thoughts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 12, 2014, 09:16:09 AM
47. Question:  What is the way to reality?  Please show it.

  Bhagavan:  The work Ulladu Narpadu (Truth Revealed) imparts pure truth; it deals with it and explains it.  You should go on reading it verse by verse.  In course of due time the words of the verses will vanish and pure truth alone will shine like a snake relinquishing its skin and coming out shining. This itself is sadhana (spiritual practice).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 12, 2014, 10:35:40 PM
14. Question: I do not know, but they say that to withdraw from all sense-activity, from all thoughts, all life-experiences, i.e., to cease to be active, is the highest state.

      Bhagavan: If so, what is the difference between this state and deep sleep? Besides, if it is a state, however exalted it be, that appears and disappears and is, therefore, not natural and normal to the self, how can that represent eternal presence of the supreme Self, which persists in all states and indeed survives them? It is true that there is such a state.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 15, 2014, 09:16:48 AM
48.  Question:  While sitting near you, what sort of mental state should we have so as to receive the transmission from your pure being, or Self?

     Bhagavan:  Keep your mind still, that is enough. You will get spiritual help sitting in this hall if you keep yourself still.  The aim of all practices is to give up all practices.  When the mind becomes still, the power of the Self will be experienced.  The (underlying) waves of the Self are pervading everywhere.  If the mind is at peace, one begins to experience them.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 16, 2014, 01:34:46 AM
49.  Question:  Which is better for me, to gaze at your eyes or your face?  Or, should I sit with closed eyes and concentrate my mind on a particular thing?

     Bhagavan:  Gaze at your own real nature.  It is immaterial whether the eyes are open or closed.  Everywhere there is only the One Presence, so it is all the same whether you keep your eyes open or closed. 

   If you wish to meditate, do so on the "I" that is within you.  It is Atman (the Self).  Because it has no eyes, there is no need either to open or close the eyes.  When you attain Self-Knowledge, there will no longer be any ideas about the world.  If you abide in the state of Reality, it is all the same whether the eyes are open or closed.  It matters little whether external activities go on or not.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 17, 2014, 01:37:41 AM
50.  Question:  Should I sit in a particular posture, and sit on a grass mat to meditate?

     Bhagavan:  Stability in the Self is the real posture. In what posture will Atman (the Self) sit?  It is wrong to say that there is no Self-Knowledge without particular postures; the Self has no need of them.  The compulsion of having a particular kind of posture makes the mind get agitated.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 18, 2014, 09:27:44 AM
51.  Question:  How to uproot or end the weariness, fear, and anxiety that arise during meditation?

     Bhagavan:  Find out to whom these questions occur. By conducting this inquiry, these things will disappear.  These things are impermanent, they are just more thoughts.  Do not pay attention to them.  When there is knowledge of duality, fear arises. Fear only comes when you think that there are "others" apart from you.  If you direct your mind towards the Self, fear and anxiety will go away. 

   In your present state, when the mind is agitated, if you remove one kind of fear, another will rise up and there will be no end to them.  It is a laborious task to pluck the leaves off a tree one by one.  The "I" feeling is the root of all thoughts.  If you destroy the root, the leaves and branches will wither away.  Instead of forming bad habits and then taking medicine for them, it is better to see that such bad habits are not formed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 21, 2014, 01:29:43 AM
52.  Question:  How to meditate?

     Bhagavan:  Being aware of the Self is the real meditation. When the mind gives up its habit of choosing and deciding, it then turns towards its own real nature.  At that time, it gets into the fundamental state.  When the ego gets or stays more powerful, entry into this state does not take place.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 22, 2014, 01:35:05 AM
53.  Question:  What must I do to avoid sleep during my meditation?
 
      Bhagavan:   Meditators must not work too much, nor should they fill their stomachs with excessive food.  The more one fills the stomach, the lower one's mental state becomes.  If the stomach is mostly empty, one will go higher spiritually.  One should not tighten the strings of the veena (stringed musical instrument) either too much or too little.  The body must be kept like that.
 
       Likewise with sleep.  One third of the night has been allotted for sleep.  That is, one must go to bed at 10 p.m. and wake up at 2 a.m.  One should not sleep during the daytime.  There is another system also.  One should get up whenever one wakes up and one should sleep whenever sleep comes.  But, one should not think, "I slept" or "I woke up."  Here, it is the thought "I" that is the problem.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 23, 2014, 09:16:12 AM
54.  Question:  Why is it that during meditation I am often prone to sleep?
 
         Bhagavan:  Of course one should be alert in Sadhana  (spiritual practice) and guard against sleep as far as one can.  But, if sleep does overpower you, it does not matter.  The moment you wake up, you catch up the current of your meditation and continue.  So, sleep will prove no hindrance.  However, practice to always stay alert during your chosen or scheduled time for Sadhana.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 24, 2014, 09:10:16 AM
55.  Question:  The scriptures say that attention should be placed at the center between the eyebrows.  Is this correct?
 
      Bhagavan:  The feeling "I am" is directly evident to everyone.  What happiness is there in seeing any particular God if one ignores this feeling?  There is no foolishness like that of thinking that God exists only in certain spots such as the place between the eyebrows.  Fixing the attention on these spots or locations is just a violent form of sadhana (spiritual practice) whose aim is to concentrate the mind in order to prevent it from running everywhere.  Inquiring, "Who Am I?" is a much easier method of controlling the mind.
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Post by: eranilkumarsinha on September 24, 2014, 09:19:25 AM
Quote:
The feeling "I am" is directly evident to everyone.  What happiness is there in seeing any particular God if one ignores this feeling?  There is no foolishness like that of thinking that God exists only in certain spots such as the place between the eyebrows.  Fixing the attention on these spots or locations is just a violent form of sadhana (spiritual practice) whose aim is to concentrate the mind in order to prevent it from running everywhere.  Inquiring, "Who Am I?" is a much easier method of controlling the mind.



Dear Sri Prashant,


Will you kindly inform me where from you have quoted above holy Utterance of Sri Bhagwan? I simply wish to know the context in which Sri Bhagwan taught as above.


Thanks very much.
Pranam,
  Anil
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 24, 2014, 12:59:02 PM
Dear Anil Garu,

All the messages in this thread are published by AHAM USA organisation where messages are loosely based on Bhagavan Ramana's teachings .
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Post by: Nagaraj on September 24, 2014, 01:42:38 PM
Dear Sri Anil, Sri Prashant and friends,

This appears in Talk itself as follows

Talk 557.

A visitor asked: ?We are advised to concentrate on the spot in the forehead between the eyebrows. Is it right??
M.: Everyone is aware, ?I am?. Leaving aside that awareness one goes about in search of God. What is the use of fixing one?s attention between the eyebrows? It is mere folly to say that God is between the eyebrows. The aim of such advice is to help the mind to concentrate. It is one of the forcible methods to check the mind and prevent its dissipation. It is forcibly directed into one channel. It is a help to concentration. But the best means of realisation is the enquiry ?Who am I?? The present trouble is to the mind and it must be removed by the mind only.

There is a minor difference in the way it is conveyed by AHAM, quoted below again:

The feeling "I am" is directly evident to everyone.  What happiness is there in seeing any particular God if one ignores this feeling?  There is no foolishness like that of thinking that God exists only in certain spots such as the place between the eyebrows. Fixing the attention on these spots or locations is just a violent form of sadhana (spiritual practice) whose aim is to concentrate the mind in order to prevent it from running everywhere.  Inquiring, "Who Am I?" is a much easier method of controlling the mind.



I wonder how this talk is conveyed in Bhagavat Vachanaamrutam, the tamil version of Talks with Bhagavan, request any one to post the same if possible, as currently my copy is not available with me. The Aham version is slightly diluting the spirit as originally conveyed in the English Talks. If we note, Sri Bhagavan is rightly guiding the visitor in question as to the essence of concentrating between the eye brows. As we know Lord Krishna had advised this in Gita. Sri Adi Shankaracharya too, has advised the same in Vivekachoodamani as well. It has to be discerned that this method itself is not foolishness, but Sri Bhagavan like Lord Krishna and Adi Shankara shows light on the prayoga of the same.

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 24, 2014, 02:49:04 PM
Thanks a lot Nagaraj garu for the quote from talks.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 25, 2014, 11:38:25 AM
56.  Question:  I am often tempted to try other centers (of concentration), such as the base of the mind, the tip of the nose, and the space between the eyebrows.  What does Bhagavan think about it?
 
       Bhagavan:  When the Heart center is there (is present), why not go directly to it instead of going through other centers?  To come to Tiruvannamalai from Madras (in South India), why should you go to Banaras (in North India) first and come down all the way, or why go to Rameswaram (another city further south in India) and come up here.  Why not come straight?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 26, 2014, 09:26:13 AM
57.  Question:  Some people advise that one should concentrate on the center of the eyebrows.  Is this correct?
 
       Bhagavan:  What is important is (one's) determination.  The source of everything is the Heart.  Merge the mind in it.  Attention to the "I" source should not be given up.  Ceaseless effort is needed.  The more one practices, the easier it will become, naturally bearing fruit at the right time.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 29, 2014, 09:22:24 AM
58.  Question:  I have come here for many years.  Some people meditate and soon get into samadhi (absolute or pure awareness).  I close my eyes for a minute and the mind travels around the world ten times, and so many long-forgotten things come up.
 
     Bhagavan:  Why do you concern yourself about others?  They may meditate or sleep and snore.  Look to yourself.  Whenever the mind goes astray, bring it back to the quest.  There is a verse in the Bhagavad Gita, which says: "To whatever side the restless, unsteady mind wanders away, we should check it and bring it back controlled, to the Self."  The child who was woken up and given milk after it had gone to sleep, says to its mother the next morning, "Mother, you never gave me milk last night."  Even so, you (too have) had your fill.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on September 30, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
59.  Question:  Mental activity during meditation does not seem to converge at a point, as it should, on the object of meditation; and it does not stay there but gets diverted into numerous thought channels.  Why is it so?  How can the mind be made to overcome this tendency toward diffused thinking and attain its Primal State of freedom from thought?
 
     Bhagavan:  It is the mind's attachment to objects, constituting the non-self, which makes the mind wander about during meditation.  Therefore, the mind should be withdrawn from the non-self, and an effort should be made to fix it in Self-Inquiry.  All extraneous thought is effectively eliminated when you attune the entire mind to the one question, "Who is it that is making the inquiry?"
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 01, 2014, 08:57:33 AM
60.  Question:  How can I gain steadiness in practice?
 
     Bhagavan:  Only through more practice.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 02, 2014, 09:14:38 AM
61.  Question:  In my present state, is there sufficient faith, humility, and surrender in me?  If not, how to make them complete?
 
     Bhagavan:  You are perfect and complete, now, so abandon the idea of incompleteness.  There is nothing to be destroyed.  Ahankara (the individual "I" sense) is not a real thing.  It is the mind that makes the effort, and the mind is not real.  Just as it is not necessary to kill a rope, which one imagines to be a snake, so also there is no need to kill the mind.  Knowing the form of the mind makes the mind disappear.  That which is forever non-existent is already (in truth) removed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 03, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
62.  Question:  What books should I read for swadhyaya (introspection, or self-study)?
 
       Bhagavan:  The Self is the real book.  You can glance anywhere in that "book"; nobody can take it away from you.  Whenever (or since) you are free, turn towards the Self.  Thereafter you may read whatever you like.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 06, 2014, 09:24:25 AM
63.  Question:  How can meditation become steady?
 
     Bhagavan:  What is meditation?  It consists in expulsion of thoughts.   All the present troubles are due to thoughts.   Give up thoughts.  That is happiness, and also meditation.
 
       The thoughts are for the thinker.  Remain as the Self of the thinker and there is an end of thoughts.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 07, 2014, 04:45:34 AM
64.  Question:  Am I the froth?
 
     Bhagavan:  Cease that identification with the unreal and know your real identity.  Then you will be firm and no doubts can arise.  Because you think that way there is worry.  It is a wrong imagination.  Accept your true identity with the Real.  Be the water and not the froth.  That is done by diving in.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 08, 2014, 08:57:07 AM
Spiritual Heart
 
65.  Question:  Sri Bhagavan speaks of the Heart as the seat of Consciousness, and as identical with the Self.  What does the Heart signify exactly?
 
     Bhagavan:  The question about the Heart arises because you are interested in seeking the source of Consciousness.  To all deep thinking minds, the inquiry about the "I"  and its nature has an irresistible fascination.
 
     Call it by any name:  God, Self, the Heart, or the seat of Consciousness, it is all the same.  The point to be grasped is this, that Heart means the very core of one's being, the center without which there is nothing whatever.
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Post by: ramanaduli on October 08, 2014, 10:47:03 AM
Regarding the center .... is it the place where the questions always arise. It looks mine and the center looks the side of one coin.

This is meaning for KALLAI KANDAL NAYAIK KAANOM; NAYAIK KANDAL KALLAIK KAANOM

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 08, 2014, 03:40:32 PM
66.  Question:  But Sri Bhagavan has specified a particular place for the Heart within, i.e., a physical place of the Heart within the physical body, which is in the chest two digits to the right from the median.
 
     Bhagavan:  Yes, that is the center of spiritual experience according to the testimony of Sages.  This spiritual Heart-center is quite different from the blood-propelling, muscular organ known by the same name.  The spiritual Heart-center is not an organ of the body.  All that you can say of this Heart is that it is the very core of your being.  That with which you are really identical (as the word in Sanskrit literally means), whether you are awake, asleep, or dreaming, whether you are engaged in work or immersed in samadhi (absorbed in Self).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 10, 2014, 09:24:57 AM
67.  Question:  How can it (the Heart-center) be localized in any part of the body?  Fixing a place for the Heart (within the body) would imply setting physiological limitations to that which is beyond space and time.
 
     Bhagavan:  That is right.  But the person who puts the question about the position of the Heart considers himself as existing within the body.  While putting the question now, would you say that your body alone is here but that you are speaking from somewhere else?  No, you accept your bodily existence.  It is from this point of view that any reference to a physical body is made.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 13, 2014, 01:40:09 AM
68.  Question:  You often say that there is the real meaning of "I" in the Heart.  What does it mean?

     Bhagavan:  Yes, when you go deeper within, you lose yourself, as it were, in the abysmal depths; then the Reality, which is the Self that was behind you all the while, takes hold of you.  It is an incessant flash (or current) of I-consciousness; you can be aware of it, feel it, hear it, sense it, so to say; this is what I call the throb (or current) of the "I"-"I."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 15, 2014, 02:56:24 AM
69.  Question:  You said that the Atman (the Self) is immutable, self-effulgent, etc.  But, if you speak at the same time of the incessant flash (or current) of I-consciousness, does that not imply movement, which cannot be complete realization in which there is no movement?

      Bhagavan:  What do you mean by complete realization?  Does it mean becoming a stone, an inert mass?  The thought "I" is different from that which says "I."  The former is the activity of the ego and is bound to lose itself and make way for the latter, which is an eternal expression of the Self.

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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 15, 2014, 02:58:50 AM
70.  Question:  So far I understand.  But what about the body?  How could I feel this in the body?

      Bhagavan:  You can feel yourself as one with the One that exists:  the whole body becomes a mere power, a force-current; your life becomes a needle drawn to a huge mass of magnet; and, as you go deeper and deeper, you become a mere center, and then not even that for you become mere consciousness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 16, 2014, 06:59:25 AM
71.  Question:  Then when you say "Know thyself," you want me to know this ego-self?
 
       Bhagavan:  The moment the ego-self tries to know itself, it changes its character; it begins to partake less and less of the Jada (inert nature) in which it is absorbed, and more and more of the Consciousness of the Self, the Atman.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 17, 2014, 07:32:55 AM
72.  Question:  Now be pleased to tell me where it (the Real Self) is in the body.
 
     Bhagavan:  You cannot know it with your mind.  You cannot realize it by imagination, when I tell you here is the center (pointing to the right side of the chest).  The only direct way to realize it is to cease to fancy, and (simply) try to be yourself.  Then you realize, automatically feel, that the center is there.  This is the center, the Heart spoken of in the scriptures as Hridayaguha (Cavity of the Heart), Aurl (Ullam).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 21, 2014, 01:57:06 PM
73.  Question:  Then what is Samadhi?
 
     Bhagavan:  In yoga, the samadhi term refers to some kind of trance, and there are various kinds of samadhi.  However, the samadhi I speak of is different.  It is Sahaja Samadhi (state of permanent Realization).  For, here you have Samadhana (see all things as the same), you remain calm and composed even while you are active; you realize that you are moved by the deeper Real Self within.  You have no worries, no anxieties, no cares.
 
     For, here you come to realize that there is nothing belonging to you.  And everything is done by Something with which you get into conscious union.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 21, 2014, 01:58:19 PM
74.  Question:  If this is Sahaja Samadhi (the natural state) and the most desirable condition, there is no need for Nirvikalpa Samadhi (highest state of Yoga that sees no differences).
 
     Bhagavan:  The Nirvikalpa Samadhi (no differences perceived) of Raja (Royal) Yoga may have its use.  But, in Jnana (pure Knowledge), this Sahaja Sthiti (abidance in the natural state) itself is the Nirvikalpa (no concepts) state.  For, in this state the mind is free from doubts (and modifications).  It has no need to swing between alternatives of possibilities and probabilities.  It has no vikalpa (tendency) of any kind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 22, 2014, 08:49:18 AM
75.  Question:  Does samadhi (the state of oneness where one experiences the Self) mean that one is unaware of everything?
 
     Bhagavan:  No.  Meditation will go on without our effort.  That is samadhi.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 23, 2014, 08:39:34 AM
76.  Question:  Then what is Sahaja Samadhi?
 
     Bhagavan:  In that state, meditation will always be going on.  In that state the thought, "I am meditating" or "I am not meditating" will not occur.
 
     NOTE:  Sahaja Samadhi is the permanent state of Self-Realization in which one functions normally in the world without thought, with no sense of oneness or separateness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 24, 2014, 01:08:31 PM
77.  Question:  In my meditation I am only aware of an all-pervasive blankness.  Is that good?
 
      Bhagavan:  It is good if meditators meditate with Self-awareness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 27, 2014, 03:26:26 PM
78.  Question:  Can one practice Sahaja Samadhi (the permanent state of Self-Realization in which one functions normally in the world without thought, with no sense of oneness or separateness) right from the beginning?
 
     Bhagavan:  Yes.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 28, 2014, 08:38:11 AM
79.  Question:  How does one practice Nirvikalpa Samadhi (the state with no perceived differences)?  How many different kinds of samadhi are there?
 
     Bhagavan:  There is only one kind of samadhi, not many kinds.  To remain temporarily subsided in the Reality without any thought is Nirvikalpa Samadhi.  Permanently abiding in the Self, without forgetting it, is Sahaja Samadhi.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 29, 2014, 06:38:38 AM
80.  Question:  God is omnipresent.  Why should He become an avatara (one born Enlightened in a physical body) age after age?  Couldn't He perform His function just by being present everywhere?
 
     Bhagavan:  By the order of Iswara (the Supreme Power, or personal God), authorized, eligible, or qualified beings (adhikarikapurushas), along with their devotees, are sent to take birth on earth.  These beings become avataras in order to give their grace to those who have done nishkamya punya (meritorious acts without any desire), accomplish the mission for which they came, then go back to their own earlier positions.  Though different bodies come to the avatara purushas (incarnate divine beings), their experience of the unity of the Self never changes.  A man, after being born, undergoes the various stages of life -- childhood, youth, manhood, and old age -- but in all these stages, the thought that he is the same person who was born remains unchanged.  Likewise, the avatarapurushas knowingly remain as the one Self even though they go through many births.  For them, it is rather like seeing ten different dreams in one night.
 
     All these questions will not occur when you know yourself.  Without knowing the truth about oneself, it is a waste of time trying to understand the differing teachings of other people.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 30, 2014, 06:02:02 AM
81.  Question:  What is the difference between Iswara (personal God) and the liberated one?
 
     Bhagavan:  Iswara and the Jnani (liberated being) are one and the same, except that the liberated person was at first forgetful of the Self.  Later, by strength of his practice, he eventually came to know the Self.  For Iswara, it was not like that.  Being the eternally liberated One, God is performing the five-fold functions of creation, preservation and destruction, veiling and grace.  The activities, or functioning of Iswara and the Jnani, are one and the same.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on October 31, 2014, 06:03:44 AM
82.  Question:  You have said that the jnani (realized being) can be active, and deal with men and things.  I have no doubt about it now.  You say at the same time that he has no differences; to him all is one, he is always in the Consciousness... if so, how does he deal with differences--with men, with things, which are surely different?
 
     Bhagavan:  He sees these differences as but appearances.  He sees them as not separate from the True, the Real, with which he is one.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 03, 2014, 10:17:24 AM
83.  Question:  The jnani (realized being) seems to be more accurate in his expressions; he appreciates the differences better than the ordinary man.  If sugar is sweet and wormwood is bitter to me, he too seems to realize it is so.  In fact, all forms, all sounds, all tastes, etc., are the same to him as they are to others.  If so, how can it be said that these are mere appearances?  Do they not form part of his life experience?
 
     Bhagavan:  I have said that equality implies the existence of differences.  It is a unity that the jnani perceives in all differences, which I call equality.  Equality does not mean ignorance of distinctions.  When you have the Realization you can see that these differences are very nominal, they are not at all substantial or permanent, and what is essential in all these appearances is the one Truth, and Real.  That I call unity... You referred to sound, taste, form, smell, etc.  True, the jnani appreciates the distinctions, but he always perceives and experiences the one Real in all of them.  That is why he has no preferences.  Whether he moves about or talks or acts, it is all the One Real in which he acts or moves or talks.  He has nothing apart from the one supreme Truth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 04, 2014, 06:46:24 AM
84.  Question:  Sri Bhagavan has written that one should not show advaita (non-duality) in one's activities.  Why so?  All are one.  Why differences?
 
     Bhagavan:  If you saw someone molesting a woman would you just let him go, thinking "All is one?"  There is a scriptural story about this.  Some people once gathered together to test whether it is true, as said in the Bhagavad Gita, that a jnani (realized being) sees everything as one.  They took a Brahmin, (a member of the highest Hindu caste system), a cow, an elephant, and a dog to the court of King Janaka, who was a jnani.  When all had arrived, King Janaka sent the Brahmin to the place of Brahmins, the cow to its shed, the elephant to the place allotted to elephants, the dog to its kennel.  He then ordered his servants to take care of his guests and feed them all appropriate food.  The people asked, "Why did you separate them individually?  Is not everything one and the same for you?"
 
     "Yes, all are one," replied Janaka, "but self-satisfaction varies according to the nature of the individual.  Will a man eat the straw eaten by the cow?  Will the cow enjoy the food that a man eats?  One should only give what satisfies each individual person or animal.  Although the same man may play the role of all the characters in a play, his actions will be determined by the role that he is playing at each moment.  In the role of a king, he will sit on a throne and rule.  If the same person takes on the role of a servant, he will carry the sandals of his master and follow him.  His real Self is neither increased nor decreased while he plays these roles.  The jnani never forgets that he himself has played all these roles in the past."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 05, 2014, 06:26:09 AM
85.  Question:  What is the difference between the bound man and the one liberated?
 
     Bhagavan:  From the Heart, the Self-center, there is a subtle passage leading to the mind's center.  The ordinary man lives in the brain unaware of himself in the Heart.  The enlightened one lives in the Heart.  When he moves about and deals with men and things, he knows that what he sees is not separate from the one Supreme Reality, the Brahman, (the impersonal Absolute Reality) which he realized in the Heart as his own Self, the Real.
 
     Question:  What about the ordinary man?
 
     Bhagavan:  I have just said that he sees things outside himself.  He is separate from the world, from his own deeper truth, from the truth that supports him and what he sees.  The man who has realized the Supreme Truth of his own existence realizes that it is the one Supreme Reality that is there behind him, behind the world.  In fact, he is aware of the One, as the Real, the Self in all selves, in all things, Eternal and Immutable, in all that is impermanent and mutable.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 06, 2014, 06:55:48 AM
86.  Question:  Some say that to make an effort for one's liberation is selfish, and that instead of that, one should do good to others by selfless service.
 
       Bhagavan:  Those people believe that jnanis (realized beings) are selfish and that they themselves are selfless, but this is not a true belief.  The jnani lives in the experience of Brahman (the impersonal Absolute Reality) and the effect of this experience spreads all over the world.  A radio transmission is done from one point but its effect can be felt all over the world.  Those who would like to benefit from it can do so.  Similarly, the Self-realization of the jnani spreads everywhere and whosoever wants can tune into it.  This is not a lesser service.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 07, 2014, 07:01:28 AM
87.  Question:  How to maintain the thought that all is Brahman (the impersonal Absolute Reality) in the midst of worldly activities?
 
       Bhagavan:  When the harmonium is being played there is a constant note that is called the sruti.  Along with that, other notes also come out.  If the ear is fixed on this note that is constant, then, while listening to the other notes, that original note cannot be forgotten.  Actually, that first note gives strength to all the other notes.  So, the principle to understand is that the first note is the adhistana (substratum) while the other notes represent worldly activities.  During worldly activities, if (awareness of) the note of the adhistana is continuous, whatever is spoken is then done with authority of this adhistana note.  But an ordinary man does not keep his attention on the first note, the adhistana.  He merely listens to the subsequent notes.  The Jnani keeps his attention on the first note.  Sukhdev (a sage of ancient India) used to keep such attention and maintain his awareness of Brahman.  When the attention is fixed properly on the first note, the effect of the other notes will not be felt.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 10, 2014, 09:17:05 AM
88.  Question:  How much sleep does a Jnani (realized being) require?
 
       Bhagavan:  Sleep is necessary to one who thinks, "I have risen from sleep."  But, to those who are ever in changeless Sleep, what need is there for some other sleep?  When the eyelids feel strained, it will do to close the eyes for a while.  The three states of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep are for the mind and not for the body.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 11, 2014, 09:12:49 AM
89.  Bhagavan: Now I put a question to you.  When a man with luggage gets into a railway carriage, where does he keep it?
 
       Devotee:  He keeps it in his compartment or in the luggage car.
 
90.  Bhagavan:  So he does not carry his luggage upon his head or in his lap?
 
       Devotee:  None but a fool would do so.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 12, 2014, 08:52:16 AM
91.  Bhagavan:  If you call him a fool who keeps it on his head, a thousand times more foolish is it to bear your burden when you get into spiritual life, whether it is vichara-marga (the path of knowledge), or bhaki-marga (the path of devotion)?
 
       Question:  But can I throw off all my responsibilities, all my commitments?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 13, 2014, 04:50:56 AM
 92.  Bhagavan:  Now, look at the temple tower (Gopuram).  There are many statues in it, and there is a big statue, one in each corner.  Have you seen them?  Well, do you think the statues support the temple's entrance?
 
       Devotee:  When you speak like that, it would be as foolish as to think those statues also support the tall towers as well.
 
       Bhagavan: Yes.  Likewise, the Lord of the Universe carries the entire burden of this world.  You imagine you do.  You can hand all your burdens over to His care.  Whatever you have to do, you will be made an instrument for doing it at the right time.  Do not think you cannot do it unless you have the desire to do it.  Desire does not give you the strength for doing.  The entire strength is the Lord's.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 14, 2014, 09:20:00 AM
93.  Question:  Am I to understand that you are giving me the essence of Karma Yoga (the way of action)?
 
      Bhagavan:  It is the essence of Karma Yoga (the path of action), of Bhakti Yoga (the way of devotion), even of Jnana Yoga (the path of knowledge or wisdom); for even though the paths may differ in the beginning, they all eventually lead to this same position.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 17, 2014, 12:58:25 AM
94.  Question:  How is sadbuddhi (Pure Intellect) to be steadily kept up?
 
      Bhagavan:  All living beings are aware of their surroundings; and, therefore, intellect must be surmised in all of them.  At the same time, there is a difference between the intellect of man and that of other animals because man not only sees the world as it is and acts accordingly, but also seeks fulfillment of desires.  He extends his vision far and wide, and yet he turns away dissatisfied.  He then begins to think and reason out.  The desire for permanency of happiness and for peace bespeaks such permanency of his own nature.  Therefore, he seeks to find and regain his own nature, i.e., his Self.  That found, all is found.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 18, 2014, 11:01:22 AM
95.  Question:  What is Sat Sanga (Keeping Conscious Company or Association)
 
      Bhagavan:  Sat Sanga means only Self Sanga (association with the Self).  Only those who cannot practice that, are to practice being in the company of Realized Beings, or sadhus (holy men).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 19, 2014, 11:20:37 AM
96.  Question:  When does one get the company of a Satguru? (Spiritual Master living in Reality)
 
       Bhagavan:  The opportunity to be in the company of a Satguru comes effortlessly to those who have performed worship of God, japa (repetition of a name of God), tapas (burning off one's impurities by intense spiritual practice), pilgrimages, etc., for long periods in their previous births.  There is a verse by Tayumanavar (a great Indian saint) which points out the same thing; "O Lord of the first and last, those who properly start the worship of idols, holy places, and sacred waters will meet the Satguru who will tell them the words of truth."
 
Only he who has done plenty of nishkamya karmas (actions performed without any thought of a reward or consequence) in previous births will get abundant faith in the Guru.  Having faith in the Guru's words, such a man will follow the path and reach the goal of liberation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 20, 2014, 10:52:15 AM
97.  Question: In the supplement to Ulladu Narpadu (a poem of forty-two verses, composed by Bhagavan in Tamil, which explains the nature of Reality and the means of discovering it), it is said that the look of a "Mahatma (great soul) is far more effective than any number of pilgrimages, worship, and other devotional practices."  I have already stayed here for some months but I do not feel any change in myself.  Why?
 
       Bhagavan:  The purification by the look of a Mahatma is not visible.  Coal takes time to ignite, but charcoal is proportionately quicker, while gunpowder ignites immediately.  So it is with men under the powerful influence of a jnani (a realized being).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 21, 2014, 11:22:32 AM
98.  Question:  How can one have a vision of God?
 
       Bhagavan:  Seeing God implies that he is not there now but will come later, is it not?  That which appears and disappears is not permanent.  Can one place faith in that which is impermanent?  Is it not better to abide in God, instead of merely seeing Him?  Self-abidance is what one should seek, not visions.  It is only when the ego is merged in its source, the Heart, that true knowledge of one's identity with God will dawn.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 24, 2014, 12:40:00 AM
99.  Question:  The fact is that God guides us.  Then what is the use of these instructions to people?
 
       Bhagavan:  They are for those who seek instructions.  If you are firm in your belief in the guidance of God, stick to it, and do not concern yourself with what happens around you.  Furthermore, there may be happiness or misery.  Be equally indifferent to both and abide in the faith of God.  That will be so only when one's faith is strong that God looks after all of us.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 25, 2014, 11:08:06 AM
100.  Question:  Does not God work His Will through some chosen person?
 
       Bhagavan:  God is in all and works through all.  But His presence is better recognized in purified minds.  The pure ones reflect God's actions more clearly than the impure minds.  Therefore, people say that they are the chosen ones.  However, the "chosen" man does not himself say so.  If he thinks that he is the intermediary, then it is clear that he retains his individuality and that there is not complete surrender.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 26, 2014, 12:35:51 AM
101.  Question: How is "I-I" consciousness felt?
 
       Bhagavan:  As an unbroken awareness of "I."  It is simply consciousness.  You are that even now.  There will be no mistaking it, when pure.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 27, 2014, 11:24:27 AM
Invocatory

i.    Without the Reality existing, can there be a knowledge of existence?  Free from all thoughts, that Reality abides in the Heart, the Source of all thoughts.  It is, therefore, called the Heart.  How then to contemplate it?  To be as it is in the Heart, is Its contemplation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on November 28, 2014, 11:14:55 AM
From the book Truth Revealed
 

ii.  Those for whom there is the intense fear of death, seek as their refuge only the feet of the Lord, Who has neither death nor birth. Dead to themselves and their possessions, can the thought of death occur to them again? Deathless are they.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 01, 2014, 01:10:59 AM
From the book Truth Revealed
 

1.   Because we perceive the world, acceptance of a unique First Principle, possessing diverse powers, would surely be admitted by all. Pictures of name and form, the seer, the supporting screen and the revealing light, all these are verily He.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 02, 2014, 12:48:06 AM
2.   All religions postulate the three fundamentals, the world, the soul and God.  The one Reality alone manifests Itself as the three.  To say "The three are indeed three" is only while the ego lasts.  Therefore, to inhere in one's own Being, where the "I" is dead, is the perfect State.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 03, 2014, 11:18:41 AM
3.   "The world is real."  "No, it is a mere illusory appearance." "The world is conscious."  "No."  "The world is happiness."  "No."  Thus to speak, of what avail is it?  That State is agreeable to all wherein one, having given up the objective outlook, knows his Self and loses all notions of unity and duality, of oneself and the ego.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 04, 2014, 11:09:09 AM
4.   If oneself be with form, the world and God too will figure accordingly.  If one be formless, who is it that sees those forms, and how?  Without the eye can there be the seen?  Verily oneself is the Eye, and that too the Eye Boundless.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 05, 2014, 11:01:46 AM
5.   The body is a form of the fivefold sheath. Therefore, all the five sheaths are implied in the term "body."  Apart from the body does the world exist?  Are there persons who have seen the world without the body?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 08, 2014, 11:19:33 AM
6.   The world is nothing more than an embodiment of the objects perceived by the five sense organs.  Since, through these five sense organs, a single mind perceives the world, the world is nothing but the mind.  Apart from the mind is there the world?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 09, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
7.   Although the world and the knowledge thereof rise and set together, it is by knowledge alone that the world is made apparent.  That Perfection, wherein the world and knowledge thereof rise and set, and which shines without rising and setting, is alone the Reality.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 10, 2014, 11:08:27 AM
8.   Under whatever name and form one may worship the Absolute Reality, it would only be a means for realizing that Perfect Being without name and form.  That alone is true realization, wherein one knows one's true being in relation to that Reality, and realizes one's identity with It by being absorbed into It.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 11, 2014, 11:19:13 AM
9.   The dyads and triads never exist without the support of some One Thing.  Searching as to what that One Reality is, if one sees into oneself, they fall away.  They that see this are the Seers of Wisdom.  Never are they perplexed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 12, 2014, 10:55:43 AM
10.  Knowledge does not exist without ignorance; ignorance does not exist without knowledge.  That knowledge alone is true Knowledge wherein one knows the Self through inquiry as to whom pertains knowledge and ignorance.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 15, 2014, 12:44:47 AM
11.   Is it not, rather, ignorance to know all else without knowing oneself, the knower?  On knowing oneself, the substratum of knowledge and ignorance, knowledge and ignorance perish.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 16, 2014, 10:58:58 AM
12.   That alone is Knowledge which is neither knowledge nor nescience (lack of knowledge).  What is known is not true Knowledge.  Since the Self shines with nothing else to know or to make known, It alone is Knowledge.  No void It is.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 17, 2014, 11:21:48 AM
13.   The Self, which is Knowledge, is alone the Reality.  Knowledge of diversity is but false knowledge. This false knowledge, which is but ignorance, does not exist apart from the Self, which is Knowledge-Reality. Ornaments in their variety are unreal.  Do they exist without gold, the substance?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 18, 2014, 12:44:53 AM
14.    If the first person "I" exists, then the second person "you" and the third person "he" will exist.  That alone is one's natural state, the Absolute Being, wherein the "I" perishes on inquiry into its nature, and with it also perish "you" and "he."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 19, 2014, 01:33:02 AM
15.  Only with reference to the present, can the past and the future exist.  They too, while current, are but the present. Trying to determine the nature of the past and the future, ignoring the present, is just like trying enumeration without the unit one.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 22, 2014, 12:42:00 AM
16.  Apart from us, where is time and where is space?  If we are the bodies, we will get involved in time and space.  Are we bodies?  We are one and identical now, then and forever, and also here, there and everywhere.  Therefore we, the timeless and spaceless, alone are.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 23, 2014, 12:59:59 AM
17.  To those who have not realized the Self, as well as to those who have, the "I" refers to the body, but with the difference that for those who have not realized, the "I" is confined to the body; whereas for those who have realized the Self within the body, the "I" shines as the limitless Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 24, 2014, 08:53:51 AM
18. To those who have not realized (the Self) as well as to those who have realized, the world is real.  To those who have not realized, Truth is to the measure of the world.  To those that have realized, Truth shines as the Formless Perfection, and as the Substratum of the world.  This is all the difference between them.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 25, 2014, 10:01:52 AM
19. Only to those who have no knowledge of the basis of destiny and free will are there the disputations as to which of them prevails.  They that know the Self as the one basis of destiny and free will are rid of them both.  Would they again be entangled in them?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 26, 2014, 09:20:58 AM
20.  Seeing the Divine without seeing the Self, the Seer, is but seeing a mental image.  He that sees the Self sees the Divine, they say.  He alone that sees the Self, having entirely lost the ego, has found the Divine, because the Self is not apart from the Absolute.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 29, 2014, 09:23:04 AM
21.  What is the Truth conveyed by the various scriptures, which declare, "Seeing the Self is seeing the Divine?"  How can one see the Self?  If, because oneself is but single, seeing is not possible, how to see the Divine?  It is, indeed, by oneself becoming a prey unto Him.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 30, 2014, 12:50:56 AM
22.  The Divine gives light to the mind and shines in its interior. Except by turning the mind inward and fixing it in the Divine, how else to know Him through the mind?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on December 31, 2014, 01:04:33 AM
23.  The body does not say "I."  None will say that even in deep sleep the "I" is not.  Once the "I" emerges, all else emerges thereafter. With a keen mind inquire whence this "I" emerges.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 01, 2015, 09:16:03 AM
24.  The inert body does not say "I."  Reality-Consciousness never emerges.  In between the two, and limited to the measure of the body, something emerges as "I."  It is this that is known as Chit-jada-granthi (the knot between the Conscious and the inert), bondage, soul, subtle body, ego, samsara (cycle of birth and death), mind and so forth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 02, 2015, 01:21:06 AM
25.  Holding a form it comes into being, and while it holds a form it endures; holding a form, it feeds itself and grows big.  Giving up one form it assumes another.  When sought, it takes to flight, this evil spirit, the ego, which has no form of its own.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 05, 2015, 12:50:24 AM
26.  If the ego is, all else also is.  If the ego is not, nothing else is.  Verily, the ego is all.  Therefore, only the inquiry as to what this ego is, is the giving up of all.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 06, 2015, 12:44:50 AM
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> 27.  The State of non-emergence of "I" is the state of our being THAT.  Without questing for that State of the non-emergence of "I" and attaining It, how can one accomplish one's own extinction, whereafter "I" revives not?  Without that attainment, how is it possible to abide in one's own State where one is THAT? 
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 07, 2015, 01:15:31 AM
28.  Just as a man would dive in order to get something that has fallen into water, even so, one should, with a keen, one-pointed mind, dive into oneself, controlling speech and breath, and find the place whence the "I" originates.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 08, 2015, 12:59:21 AM
29.  Without uttering the word "I," to quest with the mind turned inwards, as to whence the "I" rises, is alone the inquiry leading to Self-Knowledge.  Other than this, can contemplation, "This I am not; That I am," be by itself the inquiry, though it may be an aid thereto?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 09, 2015, 09:17:14 AM
30.  Questing "Who am I" within one's mind, when one reaches the Heart, the individual "I" sinks crestfallen, and at once Reality manifests itself spontaneously as "I," "I."  Though it reveals itself thus, it is not the ego "I," but the Perfect Being, the Self Absolute.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 12, 2015, 12:36:22 AM
31. For Him who is immersed in the bliss of the Self, arising from the extinction of the ego, what remains to be accomplished?  He is not aware of anything (as) other than the Self.  His State, who can conceive?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 13, 2015, 12:41:49 AM
32.  The scriptures proclaim, "THAT thou art."  Why not investigate what one really is, and abide thus?  To simply contemplate, "THAT I am, not this" is only want of mental strength.  Really one is eternally THAT.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 14, 2015, 01:21:45 AM
33.  "I have not realized the Self;" "I have realized the Self," to say either is to invite ridicule.  Because, are there two selves in order that one may objectify the other?  That the Self is but one, is a truth within the experience of all.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 16, 2015, 12:34:48 AM
35.  To seek and abide in the Reality that is ever attained is alone the Attainment.  All other attainments (siddhis) are but such as are acquired in dreams.  Can they prove real after one has woken up from sleep?  Would they that are established in the Reality and are free from maya (illusion), be deluded by them (the siddhis)?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 19, 2015, 01:04:19 AM
36.  Only if the thought "we are the body" occurs, will contemplation "we are not this, we are That" be a good aid for us to abide as That.  Why should we forever be thinking "we are That?"  Is it necessary for man to go on thinking "I am a man?"  Are we not always That?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 20, 2015, 12:35:03 AM
37.  The contention, "Dualism during practice, non-dualism on Attainment," is also not true.  While one is anxiously searching, as well as when one has found oneself, who else is one but the tenth man himself?*
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 21, 2015, 09:10:26 AM
38.  If we are the doers of actions, we would also be enjoyers of the fruits thereof.  On knowing the Self, through inquiry, as to who the doer is, doership is lost, and the triple karma (action) falls off.  This alone is the state of Eternal Liberation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 22, 2015, 01:00:18 AM
39.  Only so long as one considers oneself "I am bound," do thoughts of bondage and Liberation subsist.  On inquiring who the bound one is, the Self alone subsists, eternally attained and eternally free.  Thus, when thought of bondage comes to an end, can thought of liberation survive?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 23, 2015, 01:00:03 AM
40.  If it is said that Liberation is of three kinds - with form or without form, or (optionally) with and without form - then let me tell you, the extinction of the ego, which inquires into the three forms of liberation is alone Liberation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 26, 2015, 09:45:03 AM
Supplement (A Synopsis)
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> 1.  Association with Sages leads one to Liberation.  Such association should therefore be cherished.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 27, 2015, 12:50:43 AM
2.  Along with the practice of Self-Inquiry, such association (with Sages) is more potent than any other sadhana (spiritual work).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 28, 2015, 09:11:44 AM
3.   That alone (association with Sages) suffices as the supreme means to one's Liberation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on January 29, 2015, 12:39:00 AM
4.  The mere darshan (sight or glance) of the Sage removes all affliction and evil.
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> 5.  For, the benign glance the Sage bestows makes one at once pure.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 02, 2015, 12:33:01 AM
6.  The Supreme Being is One and it is the Self.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 03, 2015, 12:40:56 AM
7.  The Self is pure Consciousness: it is the Source of all kinds of illumination.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 04, 2015, 09:05:34 AM

> 8.  The Supreme Being shines as the Self in the Heart.  Steadfast inherence in the Self is the goal of every sadhana (spiritual work).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 05, 2015, 09:18:11 AM

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> 9.  Absolute Consciousness, which is Self-awareness, destroys the ego and bestows Liberation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 06, 2015, 12:44:37 AM
10.  That (Absolute) Consciousness is the Supreme Being, Lord Arunachala Siva, who reveals Himself on Self-Inquiry.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 09, 2015, 01:08:32 AM
11.  Self-realization is alone the true Birth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 10, 2015, 12:45:11 AM
12.  And that (Self-realization) is never possible while one cherishes the body.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 11, 2015, 01:07:31 AM
13.  The loss of 'body-am-I'-consciousness is the one aim of every sadhana (spiritual work), by whatever name it may be called.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 12, 2015, 12:51:07 AM
14.  Self-Inquiry is implicit in every other sadhana (spiritual work), and Self-realization is the only Truth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 13, 2015, 09:21:12 AM
15.  Of what avail are siddhis (special powers) to the jiva (individual) which ever remains dependent?  The desire for siddhis is the hallmark of bondage.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 16, 2015, 12:56:51 AM
16.  It is impossible for those who seek siddhis (special powers) either to realize peace or to attain Liberation.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 17, 2015, 12:38:00 AM
17.  One obtains true happiness and peace through surrender to the Lord Supreme, Who is the stay and support of all.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 18, 2015, 09:12:30 AM
18.  The Heart which is the Seat of the Self lies towards the right in the chest.  It is different from the muscular organ situated towards the left.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 19, 2015, 12:41:32 AM
19.  The Heart sustains the nervous system and the vital forces: in it also is avidya (ignorance).  It is the seat of the mind with the vasanas (mental tendencies), and of consciousness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 20, 2015, 09:22:46 AM
 20.  Being one with the Lord of the Heart, the Self Absolute, is as natural and spontaneous in Wisdom (Vidya), as the false identification with the body is in ignorance (avidya).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 23, 2015, 01:04:44 AM
21.  The two kinds of heart are the one acceptable and the other rejectable.
 
22.  The muscular organ called the heart is the one rejectable.  That Heart which is of the form of Knowledge Pure is the one acceptable: and it is one and universal.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 24, 2015, 12:40:30 AM
23.  For all living beings, that alone (Knowledge Pure) is the Heart Supreme.  In it rests all the world.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 25, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
24.  That Heart (Supreme) is realized by curbing the ego firmly therein.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 26, 2015, 12:44:54 AM
25.  Through incessant practice of Soham-bhavana (practicing "I am He"), desires and vasanas (mental tendencies) of the ego are destroyed.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on February 27, 2015, 12:37:26 AM
26. & 27.  Holding fast to the Truth transcending the three states, life's activity should be viewed as a leela (play).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 02, 2015, 01:08:23 AM
28.  He alone that has conquered the senses is the Jnani (Self-realized one), the Hero.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 03, 2015, 12:42:37 AM
29.  The Jnani (Self-realized one) is the embodiment of all virtues, which accrue to him spontaneously.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 04, 2015, 12:54:17 AM
30.  Apparently active, the Jnani (Self-realized one) is not engaged in any act.  Apparently inactive, the ajnani  (unrealized one) is really an actor.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 05, 2015, 12:39:59 AM
31.  Having transcended the three states, the Jnani (Self-realized one) abides merely as pure Consciousness, unaffected by the dispositions of the body and mind.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 06, 2015, 12:48:10 AM
32.  For him Turiyatita (fifth state) is identical with Turiya (the fourth state) and the other three states do not exist for him.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 08, 2015, 11:42:49 PM
33.  Since the Jnani (Self-realized one) is not the doer, it is ludicrous to attribute prarabdha karma (actions in this lifetime to be fulfilled) to him.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 10, 2015, 12:09:26 AM
34.  For the practice of yoga (union), academic learning is as much a hindrance to a scholar as family attachments are to a layman.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 10, 2015, 11:59:08 PM
35.  Mere academic learning reduces a person to the status of a reproductive machine, if he does not seek to transcend karma (action).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 11, 2015, 11:45:54 PM
36.  Those not learned are saved from many an ill to which the learned become victims.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 13, 2015, 12:14:06 AM
 37.  It is hard indeed to overcome the allurement of flattery even for one who disdains all the world.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 16, 2015, 12:00:48 AM
38.  Ever abiding as the Absolute Self, devoid of the sense of otherness, the Jnani (Self-realized one) alone stands above praise and abuse.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 17, 2015, 12:24:30 AM
39.  Advaita bhava (the truth of Non-Duality) should be cherished at heart but never put into practice, certainly not in relation to the Master.
 
See verse 209 & footnote of Guru Ramana Vachana Mala:
 
209. The truth of Non-Duality is to be only meditated upon by the mind; do not do any action from belief in Non-Duality; the idea of non-duality is fit to be cherished in respect of all things whatsoever, but not with respect to the Guru.(32)

Footnote 32:
The teaching that in the Transcendental State, where the ego is not, there is only One Pure Consciousness, is given as an antidote to the superstition that duality is real, to those whom that superstition has enslaved; these are to get freed from it by meditation on it and the Quest; the teaching is not intended to be applied to actions, because actions proceed from the contrary idea that the doer is an individual; he is sure to misapply it and thus worsen the bondage he is in; the only one who cannot misapply it is the one that does not need the teaching -- the sage. It is regrettable that this salutary injunction is not widely known. The sadhaka (spiritual seeker) must act always according to the best standard applicable to other men; that is, in conduct he must respect the distinction between moral and immoral conduct as if duality were real. There is a vast gulf of difference between a Sage and a mere sadhaka however eminent, and this must not be forgotten. This rule of conduct is taken from (the work) Tatvopadesa, a minor composition attributed to Acharya Bhagavan Shankara.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 17, 2015, 11:43:10 PM
40.  The quintessence of all wisdom is that on the destruction of the ego, the Self is realized as Reality Absolute.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 18, 2015, 11:41:50 PM
Supplement to Truth Revealed or Sad-Vidya
 
THAT in which all these worlds are fixed, of which they are, from which they all arise, for which they all exist, because of which they (all) come into being, and which they verily are -- THAT alone is the Real, the Truth.  That is the Treasure in the Heart. (1)
 
(1)           Alternatively:  May we adore That at Heart.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 20, 2015, 12:00:41 AM
1.  Association with the Sages who have realized the Truth removes material attachments; on these attachments being removed the attachments of the mind are quite destroyed.  Those for whom attachments of the mind are thus destroyed, become one with That which is the motionless principle.  They attain Liberation while yet alive.  Cherish (therefore) the association with such Sages.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 23, 2015, 01:03:06 AM
2.  That supreme State obtained here and now as a result of one's association with the Sages, and realized through the deep meditation of Self-inquiry in contact with the Heart, that State cannot be gained with the aid of a mere preceptor, nor through the knowledge of the scriptures, nor by spiritual merit, nor by any other means.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 24, 2015, 12:35:42 AM
3.  If the association with Sages is obtained, to what purpose are the several methods of self-discipline?  Tell me of what use is a fan when the cool, gentle, southern breeze is blowing?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 24, 2015, 11:56:21 PM
4.  The heat is allayed by (the rays of) the moon; want and misery are removed by the Kalpaka tree (1); sins are washed away by the sacred waters of the Ganges.  All these afflictions are altogether banished by the mere darshan (sight or glance) of the peerless Sage.
 
(1) The celestial tree that grants all the boons (blessings or favors) one prays for.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 25, 2015, 11:57:42 PM
5.  The holy waters of pilgrimage, the images of gods made of earth and stone, cannot stand comparison with the benign look of the Sage.  They make one pure only after countless days.  Know that the Sage no sooner bestows his gracious glance than he makes one pure!
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 26, 2015, 11:47:54 PM
6.  Questioner: Who is God?
 
Bhagavan: He who knows the mind.
 
Questioner: My mind is known by me, the Spirit.
 
Bhagavan: Since the Srutis (body of sacred texts) declare: "God is only one," you (as the knower of the mind) are verily God.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 30, 2015, 12:36:44 AM
7.  Bhagavan: Which is the light for you?
 
Questioner: For me by day (it is) the sun; by night, a lamp.
 
Bhagavan: What is the light that perceives that light?
 
Questioner: The eye.
 
Bhagavan: What is the light that illumines the eye?
 
Questioner: That light is the intellect.
 
Bhagavan: What is the Light that knows the intellect?
 
Questioner: It is the "I."
 
Bhagavan: You are (therefore) the supreme Light of (all) lights.
 
Questioner: That verily am I.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on March 31, 2015, 12:52:28 AM
> 8.  In the interior of the Heart-cave (there) shines alone the One Brahman (Supreme Being) as the "I-I," verily the self-conscious Atman (Self).  Realize that State of steadfast inherence in the Self, entering into the Heart, either by diving deep within through Self-inquiry, or by the submergence of the mind (in the Self) through breath-control.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 01, 2015, 12:41:05 AM
9.  Know that the pure and changeless Self-awareness in the Heart(1) is the Knowledge which, through the destruction of the ego, bestows Liberation.
 
(1) Literally:  that Awareness which is of the form of pure and changeless Self in the Heart...
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 02, 2015, 12:55:05 AM

> 10.  The body is inert like an earthen pot.  Since it has no I-consciousness and since in (the state of) deep sleep, when bodiless (2), we do experience our natural being, the body cannot be the I.  Who (then) is it that causes I-ness (3)?  Whence is he?  In the Heart-cave of those who thus inquire, know and abide as the Self, Lord Arunachala Siva shines forth of Himself as the "That-am-I" Consciousness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 03, 2015, 12:42:50 AM
11.  Who is born?  Know that he alone is born who inquires into the Brahmic (Absolute) Source whence he is (in fact) born.  He is eternally the Supreme, ever new.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 06, 2015, 01:20:40 AM
12.  Cast off the notion "I-am-the-body-contemptible."  Ponder over and realize the Self of perennial bliss.  Seeking to know the Self while cherishing the body is like getting hold of a crocodile, taking it to be a raft, in order to cross a river.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 07, 2015, 01:32:40 AM
13.  Charity, Penance, Sacrifice, Duty, Yoga (union), Devotion, the Expanse of Consciousness, the Substance, Peace, the Truth, Grace, Silence, the Deathless Death, Knowledge, Renunciation, Liberation and Bliss; know that all these are synonymous with the severance of the "body-am-I" Consciousness.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 08, 2015, 12:53:50 AM
14.  The inquiry to whom belong the karma (action), vibhakti (non-devotion), viyoga (non-union), and ajnana (nescience or ignorance), is alone Karma (action), Bhakti (Devotion), Yoga (Union), and Jnana (Knowledge). When (thus) questioned, the ego is lost, and the (consequent) State of abidance as the Self, wherein none of these have ever been, is verily the Truth.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 09, 2015, 12:45:45 AM
15.  They are cranks, who, without knowing the fact that they themselves are moved by shakti (energy), seek to act, saying, "Let us attain all siddhis (special powers)"; and this farce of theirs is like the story of the lame man who said, "What will the enemy matter if only I am held up on my legs!"
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 10, 2015, 01:37:41 AM
16.  If, verily, peace of mind is the ever-present (state of) Liberation, tell me how can they who yoke their mind to siddhis (special powers) -- which are unattainable except through the activity of the mind -- become merged in the Bliss of Liberation, which settles the agitation of the mind?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 13, 2015, 12:36:46 AM
17.  To bear the burden of the world (there is) the Lord.  (Therefore) know that the spurious ego presuming to bear that burden is comparable to the image (carved on the tower), which appears to sustain the tower's weight.  Whose fault is it if the traveler, instead of keeping (his) luggage in the cart which (already) bears the load, carries the burden on his head and suffers pain?
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 14, 2015, 12:38:02 AM
18.  Between the two breasts, below the chest and above the abdomen, there are six viscera of various colors.  Of these one resembling a lily bud and (placed) two digits towards the right (from the median) is the Heart.

 
19.  It is inverted, and in it there is a tiny orifice wherein is firmly seated along with desires (tendencies), etc., a darkness immense.  Thereon the entire nervous system has its support.  It is the seat of the vital forces, the mind and the light (of consciousness).
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 15, 2015, 12:50:09 AM
20.  Verily, that Divinity which shines as the "I" (the Self) in the cavity of the Heart-lotus is adored as the Lord Guhesa (Lord of the Heart-cave).  When, through intensive practice, the bhavana (1) "He am I," that is, "That Guhesa am I," is as firmly established as happens to be the 'I'-notion deep-rooted in your body, and when you abide ever as that Divinity itself, It shines forth, whereupon the advidya (ignorance), namely (the notion) "The-perishable-body-am-I," is dispelled even like the darkness before the rising sun.
 
(1) Bhavana consists in being attuned to That.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 16, 2015, 12:40:32 AM
21.  "Tell me what it is that is described as the Heart of all the jivas (souls) of the world, in which (as in a) big mirror all this universe is perceived as a reflection."  To Rama thus inquiring, Sage Vasishtha said, "After investigation (it has been declared that) the Heart for all the jivas is twofold."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 17, 2015, 09:18:29 AM
22.  "Hear (me) and know well the characteristics of the two (kinds of Heart), the acceptable and the rejectable.  That organ called the heart and situated at a particular place within the chest of the measurable body is the one rejectable.  That Heart which is of the form of Knowledge Absolute is the one acceptable.  (Though) that (Heart) is both within and without; it is devoid of an inner and an outer side."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 20, 2015, 12:57:25 AM
23.  "That alone is the Heart Supreme, and in it all this world abides.  It is the mirror of all objects, and it is the abode of all wealth.  Hence, for all living beings that Knowledge alone (in which everything rests) is declared to be the Heart.  It is not a part of the perishable body which is insentient like a stone."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 21, 2015, 12:55:59 AM
24.  "Therefore, by means of earnest endeavor of holding the ego in the Heart of perfect purity and absolute Knowledge, the destruction of latencies of the mind, along with breath-control, is of its own accord accomplished."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 22, 2015, 01:07:43 AM
25.  Ever abiding in the Heart through the incessant (practice of) the meditation "That Lord Siva (the Absolute) am I," Who is (of the form of) Knowledge Pure, which is free from all qualitative limitations, removes all attachments pertaining to the ego.
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 23, 2015, 12:50:25 AM
 26.  "Having inquired into (the nature of) all the states, (wakeful, dreaming and deep sleep), and ever holding steadfastly at heart to that State Supreme which is absolute and which is free from illusion, play in the world, Oh Raghava, the Hero!  You have realized That in the heart which is the Substratum of truth of all appearances.  Therefore, without ever abandoning that (right) perspective, play in the world just as you like."
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 24, 2015, 02:25:46 AM
27.  "As one with feigned enthusiasm and joy, with feigned excitement and hatred, as one taking feigned initiative and making a feigned effort, play in the world, Oh Raghava, the Hero!"
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Post by: ramana_maharshi on April 27, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
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