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Title: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: Subramanian.R on August 17, 2008, 11:44:36 AM
Atma Vidya Vilasam, is a brief composition of 43 slokas by
Sri Sadasiva Brahmendra.  Sri Sadasiva Brahmendra, is
a Brahma Jnani, who was walking on the fields and towns,
without any dress.  He was a Dikambara.  This book of 43
slokas is about the state of a self realized person.  He has also
written another composition with the same title Atma Vidya
Vilasam.  This book is about the 43 verse compostion. 

Verse 4:-   The Brahman is the causeless cause.  For the
purpose of creation, the Maya, which is the indivisible part
of Brahman, breathed and then came the five elements of space,
air, water, fire, and earth, like a potter brings about pots through
his wheel.

Verse 16:-  You are asking how to cross the ocean of samsara.
What is there to do, excepting de-contaminating the Self,
from the body, senses, breath and mind?

Verse 23:-  The Self does not rise like the sun, nor does it set.
It does not decrease, nor decrease, nor decay.  It is the ever
present Witness, which can be experienced if you remove
the superimposition.

Verse 32:-  Let Maya, which is like a cloud, shower rains callled the
world.  What is the profit for me?  What is the loss for me?  I
am ever happy in the self-effulgent swarupa, the Brahman.

Arunachala Siva.     
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: DRPVSSNRAJU on August 17, 2008, 02:02:10 PM
We can also attain to the state of Digambara like Sada Siva Brahmendra if our conciousness is nude without any thoughts.

In verse16 he is advising us to disidentify with the adjuncts so that self reveals spontaneously which releases us from ocean
of samsara which is an imagined imprisonment in relative world.

Rising and setting are possible when there is contrast which is possible only in the relative world.
But self being absolute things like rising and setting will not be there.

If we are just a witness to the work of Maya,it will not affect us but if we start involving in it's affairs we will be a victim of it.

Saints like Sadasiva Brahmendra and Tyagaraja are self-realised masters and spread the of essence of spirituality by composing it in beautiful songs.
They contributed to the culture in an unique way.Such people are our cultural heritage.
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: nonduel on August 17, 2008, 06:57:05 PM
Where can the "Atma Vidya Vilasam" be read or purchase?
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: Subramanian.R on August 18, 2008, 12:53:26 PM
Dear non due, I am very pleased about your enthusiasm about
Atma Vidya Vilasam.  I am reading a Tamil version.  I am sure
Sri Ramakrishna Math does not have an English version.  I shall
try in one or two bookshops in Bangalore, which exclusively deal
with books on philosophy and religiion and if I get a good English
version, I can courier it to you.  French translation will not be available.

Arunachala Siva. 
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: Subramanian.R on August 18, 2008, 12:58:44 PM
Dear DRPVSSN Raju,  You are right.  Only the Self should not
be clothed with good or bad garments.  The body can be.  But
certain saints in the past had no clothing.  Even Bhagavan, was
without even any loin cloth some time, since He did not care about
anything other than the Self.  Akka Mahadevi, a famous Veera Saiva
saint of Karnataka, was wearing some leaves of the trees around her
waist.  When Allmma Prabhu, another saint asked her, why should
she care for externals, she replied, "It is not for my sake, that I am
wearing, but for the sake of people like you!!!"

Arunachala Siva.     
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: nonduel on August 27, 2008, 05:53:38 PM
Dear non due, I am very pleased about your enthusiasm about
Atma Vidya Vilasam.  I am reading a Tamil version.  I am sure
Sri Ramakrishna Math does not have an English version.  I shall
try in one or two bookshops in Bangalore, which exclusively deal
with books on philosophy and religiion and if I get a good English
version, I can courier it to you.  French translation will not be available.

Arunachala Siva. 

Dear Subramanian-ji,

I have extensively searched for the "Atma Vidya Vilasam" and effectively it is not available in english.

If ever you feel like translating it, I for one would appreciate reading it all.

Namaste
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: Subramanian.R on August 27, 2008, 07:04:30 PM
My dear non duel, I am yet to search for an English translation
in Bangalore bookshops.  If I succeed, I shall courier it to you.
I have ready only a Tamil book, with Sanskrit original.  In case,
I do not get that English translation, I shall try translating the
Tamil commentary, to the extent possible and shall post letters.

I am happy about your interest.

Arunachala Siva.
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: nonduel on August 28, 2008, 04:54:49 PM
Dear Subramanian-ji,

I wrote my last reply to tell you that after my search, an english translation didn't exist to save you spending energy searching for it. But I got this information which could be helpfull. There is a translation:

Siva Mansik Puja, Kirtani & Atma Vidya Vilasah of Sri Sadasiva Brahmendra (in Sanskrit with English translations); published by Sri Kamakoti Koshsthanen Prakashitam, 1951.

It is a rare book and is not easily found. Sri Ramanashramam Library has a copy.

Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: Subramanian.R on August 28, 2008, 06:00:55 PM
My dear non duel,

Thank you for your valuable information.  I shall write or phone up
to Kanchi Kamakoti Devasthanam, a Math after Sri Sankara, in
in Kanchipuram, Tamil Nadu, and  find out whether an English copy
is available.

Or otherwise, you have put up with my poor English translation.

Arunachala  Siva.
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: nonduel on August 28, 2008, 06:17:40 PM
My dear non duel,

Thank you for your valuable information.  I shall write or phone up
to Kanchi Kamakoti Devasthanam, a Math after Sri Sankara, in
in Kanchipuram, Tamil Nadu, and  find out whether an English copy
is available.

Or otherwise, you have put up with my poor English translation.

Arunachala  Siva.

My Dear Subramanian-ji,

English is for neither of us our mother tongue. But you could very easily translate books in English. Your help is very appreciate. If your English is poor, then I better stop writting  ::)

Could you give me more information on the meaning of "Arunachala Siva" that you finish your posts with. I know what they both mean, but I presume that you write them in another meaningfull way.

If ever there are costs involve, please let me know.
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: Subramanian.R on August 28, 2008, 07:24:46 PM
Dear non duel,  Thank you.  Arunachala Siva, is the famous
'refrain' which is repeated by Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi.
in His 'Arunachala Akshara Mana Maalai, his famous poem.  This is
where He considers Himself, as a maiden, waiting to be married by Siva and panting for his grace.  This long poem, in which every two line
request starts with each alphabet of Tamil, starting from 'a' and runs
for 108 lines.  The refrain has to be repeated after every two lines!
The poem was composed by Bhagavan to enable His devotees to
go out to Tiruvannamalai town for begging alms and was at the
request of Palaniswami, who was His earliest devotee.  Bhagavan
Ramana has said that 'Arunachala Akshara Mana Malai' has fed
Him and His people for several years!

The purport of the phrase is Aruanchala Siva, is that the Hill,
Arunachala, is Siva Himself.   The Hill Itself is Siva.  In various
temples, there will be Siva lingam inside the sanctum sanctorum.
Here, the large Hill itself is Siva.   This is, apart from the Siva lingam,
inside the temple.  Bhagavan used to say that in Tiruvannamalai,
there are four Siva lingams.  One is the Hill, the second is inside
the temple, the third is Seshadri Swami, who was in Tiruvannamalai,
and who attained liberation, a few decades before Bhagavan and
the fourth is Bhagavan Himself.

The refrain Arunachala Siva, which helped Bhagavan to get food
for a number of early years in His life in Tiruvannamalai, is also
capable of giving food for the individual soul, the Liberation.
Arunachala Siva, is the talisman for everything in one's life, be
it health, wealth, happiness and liberation.  It starts with the
alphabet 'a'.  As said in the Bible, 'I am the alpha and omega.'

Arunachala Siva.   
   
 
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: nonduel on August 28, 2008, 11:45:45 PM
Dear Subramanian-ji,

Someone send me this link where I found an English translation. I would appreciate it if you could, when you have the time, go take a look and tell me what you think of that translation.

Others here could be interested by this web site who offers many texts.

http://www.celextel.org/othervedantabooks/atmavidyavilasa.html
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: SANKAR on August 29, 2008, 08:53:06 AM
Dear non duel,  Thank you.  Arunachala Siva, is the famous
'refrain' which is repeated by Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi.
in His 'Arunachala Akshara Mana Maalai, his famous poem.  This is
where He considers Himself, as a maiden, waiting to be married by Siva and panting for his grace.  This long poem, in which every two line
request starts with each alphabet of Tamil, starting from 'a' and runs
for 108 lines.  The refrain has to be repeated after every two lines!
The poem was composed by Bhagavan to enable His devotees to
go out to Tiruvannamalai town for begging alms and was at the
request of Palaniswami, who was His earliest devotee.  Bhagavan
Ramana has said that 'Arunachala Akshara Mana Malai' has fed
Him and His people for several years!

The purport of the phrase is Aruanchala Siva, is that the Hill,
Arunachala, is Siva Himself.   The Hill Itself is Siva.  In various
temples, there will be Siva lingam inside the sanctum sanctorum.
Here, the large Hill itself is Siva.   This is, apart from the Siva lingam,
inside the temple.  Bhagavan used to say that in Tiruvannamalai,
there are four Siva lingams.  One is the Hill, the second is inside
the temple, the third is Seshadri Swami, who was in Tiruvannamalai,
and who attained liberation, a few decades before Bhagavan and
the fourth is Bhagavan Himself.

The refrain Arunachala Siva, which helped Bhagavan to get food
for a number of early years in His life in Tiruvannamalai, is also
capable of giving food for the individual soul, the Liberation.
Arunachala Siva, is the talisman for everything in one's life, be
it health, wealth, happiness and liberation.  It starts with the
alphabet 'a'.  As said in the Bible, 'I am the alpha and omega.'

Arunachala Siva.   
   
 

DEAR SIR,

ARUNACAHAA SIVA

I READ IN SOME BOOK THAT

RUNA MEANS SINS AND ARUNA MEANS SINLESS

CHALA MEANS WAVERING ACHALA MEANS MOTIONLESS - STILLNESS OF MIND

ARUNACHALA MEANS
OH LORD SIVA, PLEASE GRANT YUOR GRACE TO BECOME SINLESS, STILLNESS AND LIBERATION.

AM I RIGHT OR WRONG PLEASE I LEFT IT TO YOU FOR CORRECTING.

SIVA SIVA ARUNACHALA SIVA
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: DRPVSSNRAJU on August 29, 2008, 09:05:17 AM
Dear sankar,
                Arunachala means the fire of self-knowledge without any movement.This fire is cool and comfortable(Jnanagni).
                Aruna(Fire,light of self)+Achala(without any wavering,stillness)=Arunachala.   
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: SANKAR on August 29, 2008, 09:19:11 AM
Dear sankar,
                Arunachala means the fire of self-knowledge without any movement.This fire is cool and comfortable(Jnanagni).
                Aruna(Fire,light of self)+Achala(without any wavering,stillness)=Arunachala.   

THANKS SIR,

AGREE AND ABIDE BY

SIVA SIVA
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: Subramanian.R on August 29, 2008, 10:33:59 AM
Dear non duel,  Thank you for your further information on
Atma Vidya Vilasam, website.  I shall go through and take
the help from it.

Arunachala Siva. 
Title: Re: Atma Vidya Vilasam -1
Post by: Subramanian.R on August 29, 2008, 10:44:03 AM
Dear Sankar and Raju,  'Aruna' means both the 'sunlight'
and 'remover of bondage and loans.'  What is our loan or
bondage?  It is our body consciousness.  Aruna will remove
that bondage of body consciousness.  'Achala' means,
as you have said correctly, 'unmoving'.  It therefore signifies
both the hill and Brahman or Siva, which is unmoving because
it occupies all the space and there is no more space to move
about.

Arunachala Siva.