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Ramana Maharshi => The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi => Topic started by: Subramanian.R on January 17, 2010, 10:31:53 AM

Title: Vivekachoodamani and the Heart
Post by: Subramanian.R on January 17, 2010, 10:31:53 AM
On 30th July 1936, Mr. C said:

Vivekachoodamani speaks of the "I-I" Consciousness as eternally
shining in the Heart, but no one is aware of it.

Bhagavan:  Yes.  All men without exception have it, in whatever
state they may be -- the waking, dreaming and dreamless sleep,
-- and whether they are conscious of it or not.

Mr. C: In the Talks section of the Sad Darsana Bhashya, the "I-I"
is referred to as the Absolute Consciousness, yet Bhagavan once
told me that any realization before Sahaja Nirvikalpa is intellectual.

Bhagavan:  Yes, the "I-I" Consciousness is the Absolute.  Though
it comes before Sahaja, there is in it as in Sahaja itself the subtle
intellect; the difference being that in the latter the sense of forms
disappear, which is not the case in the former. 

Mr.C:  Bhagavan!  You said yesterday that there exists in the human body a hole as small as a pinpoint, from which Consciousness always bubbles out in the body.  Is it open or shut?

Bhagavan:  It is always shut, being the knot of ignorance which
ties the body to Consciounsess.  When the mind drops in the temporary Kevala Nirvikalpa it oopens but shuts again.  In Sahaja,
it remains always open.

Mr. C:  How is it during the experience of "I-I" Consciousness?

Bhagavan:  This Consciousness is the key which opens it permanently.

(Source: Guru Ramana, S.S. Cohen).

Arunachala Siva.