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Ramana Maharshi => General topics => Topic started by: silentgreen on May 31, 2009, 09:47:40 PM

Title: Bondage
Post by: silentgreen on May 31, 2009, 09:47:40 PM
- Sri Ramakrishna

Q. Sir, why are we in bondage? Why do we not see God?

Master. Man's ego itself is Maya.
It is the evil that shuts out the Light.
Verily, with the death of the "I" all trouble cease.
If by the grace of the Lord a man once gains the knowledge that he is not the doer,
then he assuredly becomes a Jivanmukta, one freed in this very life, and transcends all fear.

How to conquer the Ego

- If one ponders over this word "I", trying to track it down, one sees that it is only a word which denotes egotism.
But it is extremely difficult to shake it off.
So one must say, "You wicked 'I', if you will not go by any means, remain as the servant of God.
The ego that feels itself to be the servant of God is called the "ripe I".

- If you find you cannot drive off this feeling of "I", then let it remain as the "servant I"
There is not much to fear from the ego which is centered in the thought,
"I am the servant of God; I am His devotee".
Sweets cause dyspepsia, but not sugar-candy which is an exception.
The "servant I", the "I" of a devotee, the "I" of a child ---
each of these is like a line drawn with a stick on the surface of water;
this "I" does not last long.

- Sankaracharya had a disciple who had been serving him for a long time but was not still given any instruction by him.
Once, while seated alone, Sankara heard the footsteps of someone coming behind.
So he called out, "Who is there?"
The disciple answered, "It is I".
The Acharya thereupon said,
"If this 'I' is so dear to you, then either expand it to infinity, or renounce it altogether."

Self-enquiry "expands" the I to infinity.
Bhakta surrenders the I at the feet of the Guru / God.
Title: Re: Bondage
Post by: ramanaduli on June 01, 2009, 07:32:57 AM
DEar sir,

When does this "I" starts its occupation in human being. At the age of 2. Because if some one takes the baby's doll the baby cries or holds tightly.
Before that age baby does not feel anything. But at the time parents feel happy. They say baby is very clever he knows how to look after things
at this age. So the society also helps to grow this ego to viswaroopam. Later we feel how difficult is this.

Title: Re: Bondage
Post by: Subramanian.R on June 01, 2009, 12:58:22 PM
Dear Ramanaduli,

Why wait for 2 years?  The 'I' starts the game, as soon as
god breathes life into it, say 3rd month of pregnancy of the
mother.  As soon as the babe is born, and held by mother
on her laps, it looks for the breast to feed itself!  Saint Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvandapahudi [Tiruvachakam],
'every month the baby gets some misery, but the 'I' fights
for its survival'.

Arunachala Siva.