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Ramana Maharshi => General topics => Topic started by: ramanaduli on November 09, 2008, 06:58:46 AM

Title: Blessings
Post by: ramanaduli on November 09, 2008, 06:58:46 AM
All elders bless youngsters. In general they bless Chiranjeevi Bhava or Sow bhagyavathi bhava.
But all these bhagyas are not permananet. Like Nachiket asked Yama, why no body bless
Live in enlighted life or Gyanvan Bhava. I think everything we can get but not Atma gyan.
May be realised guru bless his deciples.

Title: Re: Blessings
Post by: Subramanian.R on November 09, 2008, 11:16:22 AM
Dear Ramanaduli,

I was thinking about your post.  A reasonably long life and adequate material and physical wealth are needed for one's pursuit of the
path of Jnana.  An empty stomach cannot contemplate on Godhead.
It was possible for Bhagavan Ramana, because He was a class apart.
But for most of the seekers these are essential.

Again, Jnana cannot be conferred by parents by merely blessing
for Jnana.  It has to be individually acquired.  Whereas long life and Isvarya, can be blessed by elders/parents, since their wishes for these things to the prostrator/children would have their effect for these

Now tell me, why Bhagavan Ramana asked : Who am I?  and not
Who are We?

Arunachala Siva.   
Title: Re: Blessings
Post by: ramanaduli on November 10, 2008, 03:45:01 AM
Dear Subramaniyan ji

I am not a realised person. I gathered petty knowledge by reading books, hearing kathakaleshebam in my childhood. As I said earlier I came to know about Bhagavan in 1980. But I have not understood how to practice the self enquiry.
I was asking my mind and my mind was giving reply which was false only. Now at this old age by His grace I have understood little bit that all my sadhana was based on my mind play only. It is His grace I found this forum and learning how to watch mind. Therefore it is difficult to answer why Bhagavan asked Who am I instead of who we are. Gathering strength I am giving my understanding. i.e. once we know ourselves, we would know every thing. Because there is only one self which is pervading everywhere. within me within yours and within all the world. From this 3 words, Bhagavan brought the full meaning of upanishad and gave the sweet in a spoon for us.We have to just put in our mouth and disgest.
That is all. So I think we have to look ourselves only. if we understand us it is easy to understand others. I think it is correct. It may be wrong. Because there are many advanced true seekers are here in this forum. Let them answer too

Title: Re: Blessings
Post by: Subramanian.R on November 10, 2008, 10:46:38 AM
Dear Ramanaduli,

Your view may also be correct.

The Hindu religion believes in the theory of individual salavation.
Each one, has to work out for himself or herself, the way to
liberation through his/her own self enquiry or devotion.  There is
no group salvation in Hinduism.  A group of people may together
reach Heavens in other religions like "group tourism"!   But this
is not the way in Hinduism.  Instances of group salvation is very
rare in Hinduism, in certain stories.  For example, for Jnana
Sambandhar attained in Moksha as soon as he got married in
Tirunallut Peru Manam, not only he and his wife but also all the
guests who came to the wedding are said to have attained liberation!

I have not heard any other stories on this type.

Hence, it is WHO AM I? and not Who are we?

Arunachala Siva.