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Verse  4:

நின்னையெப் போது நினையவொட் டாய்நீ நினையப்புகில்
பின்னையப் போதே மறப்பித்துப் பேர்த்தொன்று நாடுவித்தி
உன்னையெப் போது மறந்திட் டுனக்கினி தாவிருக்கும்
என்னையொப் பாருள ரோசொல்லு வாழி யிறையவனே.

You do not allow me to meditate on you always.  If I try to meditate, you make me seek something else changing my mind and making me forget you at that moment itself. Are there people like me, who are favorable to you, forgetting you always?
Tell me. Let you live long! the Lord!

Arunachala Siva.
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Verse  3:

முன்னே யுரைத்தான் முகமனே யொக்குமிம் மூவுலகுக்
கன்னையு மத்தனு மாவா யழல்வணா நீயலையோ
உன்னை நினைந்தே கழியுமென் னாவி கழிந்ததற்பின்
என்னை மறக்கப் பெறாயெம் பிரானுன்னை வேண்டியதே.


Siva, who has the color of fire!  Our Lord!  If I state my idea in your presence it would be flattery. Are you not the mother and the father for these three worlds?  My life will leave the body thinking only about you.  You must not forget me after it leaves the body. This is my request to you this is the boon you must grant me.

Arunachala Siva.
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Verse  2:

உடலைத் துறந்துல கேழுங் கடந்துல வாததுன்பக்
கடலைக் கடந்துய்யப் போயிட லாகுங் கனகவண்ணப்
படலைச் சடைப்பர வைத்திரைக் கங்கைப் பனிப்பிறைவெண்
சுடலைப் பொடிக்கட வுட்கடி மைக்கட் டுணிநெஞ்சமே.

My mind!  Renouncing the body, skipping all the seven worlds and crossing the ocean of endless distress, I may reach your supreme bliss.  Reserve to do service to the god, who has on his expanding matted locks, golden in color, Ganga of spreading waves, a cool crescent moon, and who smears himself with the white ash of the cremation-ground.

Arunachala Siva.
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General Padigam:

Verse  1:


வெள்ளிக் குழைத்துணி போலுங் கபாலத்தன் வீழ்ந்திலங்கு
வெள்ளிப் புரியன்ன வெண்புரி நூலன் விரிசடைமேல்
வெள்ளித் தகடன்ன வெண்பிறை சூடிவெள் ளென்பணிந்து
வெள்ளிப் பொடிப்பவ ளப்புறம் பூசிய வேதியனே.


Siva has a skull like the fragment of white conch, wears a sacred thread of white strands which are like the wires of silver which shine falling on the chest, wearing a white crescent moon which is like a thin plate of silver on the spread-out matted locks, adorning himself with white bones, the author of the Vedas who smeared on his body which is like coral, white powder of sacred ash.

Arunachala Siva.
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Verse  11:

விவந்தா டியகழ லெந்தாயென் விண்ணப்ப மேலிலங்கு
தவந்தா னெடுக்கத் தலைபத் திறுத்தனை தாழ்புலித்தோல்
சிவந்தா டியபொடி நீறுஞ் சிரமாலை சூடிநின்று
தவந்தா னிருக்குஞ் சரக்கறை யோவென் றனிநெஞ்சமே.


My father who danced with your feet opposing Kāḷi, when Ravanan, who has to his credit penance done in previous births lifted the mountain, Kailash, you crushed his ten heads,  the tiger's skin which hangs low, wearing a garland of skulls,
and the sacred ash of fine powder which became red by dancing, is my unique mind a treasure house of all these things combining and performing penance?

General Padigam, Tiruk Sakkarai completed.
 
Arunachala Siva.
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Verse  10:

வேதித்த வெம்மழு வாளீயென் விண்ணப்ப மேலிலங்கு
சோதித் திருக்குநற் சூளா மணியுஞ் சுடலைநீறும்
பாதிப் பிறையும் படுதலைத் துண்டமும் பாய்புலித்தோல்
சாதித் திருக்குஞ் சரக்கறை யோவென் றனிநெஞ்சமே.


Siva, who holds a cruel battle-axe which oppresses heretics, the flawless chief gem in a crest which is lustrous and which shines on the head, the ash in the cremation-ground, crescent moon which is a half of the moon, the pieces of dead skulls,
the skin of a tiger which pounces on its prey, is my unique mind a treasure house of all these things, adhering to it?

Arunachala Siva.
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General Discussion / Re: THIS FORUM
« Last post by silentgreen on Today at 08:14:44 AM »
In this forum only Subramaniam makes the loudest sound by firing canons after canons, that too of Shiva. Otherwise the forum is relatively calm.
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Verse 9:


வெண்டிரைக் கங்கை விகிர்தாவென் விண்ணப்ப மேலிலங்கு
கண்டிகை பூண்டு கடிசூத் திரமேற் கபாலவடம்
குண்டிகை கொக்கரை கோணற் பிறைகுறட் பூதப்படை
தண்டிவைத் திட்ட சரக்கறை யோவென் றனிநெஞ்சமே.


Siva who bears the Ganga of white waves and who is different from the world!
Adorning with a necklace of Rudraksham beads which shines above all other things,
a waist-cord, a strand of skulls on the body ascetics pitcher, Chank with spiral turning to the right a curved crescent moon, an army of Bhutas, which are dwarf in stature,
is my unique mind a treasure-house where all the aforesaid things are collected and assembled?

Arunachala Siva.
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Verse  8:


விடுபட்டி யேறுகந் தேறீயென் விண்ணப்ப மேலிலங்கு
கொடுகொட்டி கொக்கரை தக்கை குழறாளம் வீணைமொந்தை
வடுவிட்ட கொன்றையும் வன்னியு மத்தமும் வாளரவும்
தடுகுட்ட மாடுஞ் சரக்கறை யோவென் றனிநெஞ்சமே.


Rider on a straying bull without any control, with joy!  Being eminent above other things, an instrument by name Koṭukoṭṭi, Kokkarai the name of one instrument of music and Takkai one musical instrument, flute, cymbals to measure time,
Veena, a musical instrument, Montai, is my unique mind a treasure-house where all these such as Koṉṟai without flower, leaves of Indian Mesquit, Datura flowers and a cruel cobra, perform a kind of dance feet above and head below. It is one of the many Varikūttu.

Arunachala Siva.
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sguru: Is the guru package installed?

d: Yes

---- Silence ---

---- Silence ---

d: So?


Commentary:
1. Guru is the power which takes one from darkness to light in the spiritual sense. Among all the powers we normally encounter in life, guru-power is the rarest one. All other powers work in the realm of the ego. Guru-power is the only power which works from beyond the ego.

2. If maya is translated as delusion (the Tantras in general differ from this due to their different outlook of Shakti), the first place where delusion strikes is the guru-power. If delusion cannot conceal guru-power it is no delusion at all. Once guru-power is concealed, the inclinations of life itself changes.

3. If we consider that the power flow in an individual is more or less fixed, then if guru-power gets hidden, power will manifest externally as power of cars, properties, gadgets etc. Once guru-power is felt, the role of other powers in life reduces, as if all the powers get subsumed in the guru-power.

4. Guru-package is installed only if guru-power is felt and the same power is used to uplift oneself spiritually. Taking initiation from a guru and praying to the guru for financial difficulties, son's or daughter's marriage etc. is not installation of guru package. Personal guru may have a role to play in these matters also but these are secondary. Guru package is installed if from the personal guru one can derive the guru-power and uplift oneself spiritually.

5. Guru-power does not specifically point to any human guru. It is a power which shows the light from within. A human being will be widely accepted as a guru only if he / she can kindle the guru-power within. Guru-power can also be sensed from non-human sources like vastness of Nature, dark cave etc.

6. Installation of guru-package is quite rare because it involves three aspects which themselves are rare. First is, one should be a mumukshu (desirous of moksha or at least a higher spiritual state than one is at present). Second is, one should have felt the guru-power. Third is, the aspect of guru-power felt is as per one's inclination; so one can uplift oneself spiritually with that guru-power. There is a long journey even after that, but one has now found a spiritual direction to uplift oneself.

7. Mumukshus are rare. They are a different breed. They have a different sense. An ordinary spiritual teacher can collect disciples by hundreds, but they cannot collect mumukshus so easily.

8. Feeling the guru-power is also rare. As mentioned before, among all the powers we normally encounter in life, guru-power is the rarest of all. The doubts which many people have whether God really exist is not adequately dispelled by appearance of God. It is dispelled only by feeling the guru-power. Because even if God appears in some form or other, the basic dissatisfaction of life can continue after God disappears. Guru-power makes a hole of light in life itself which continues to show the path.

9. Finding the guru-power matching one's inclination is also rare, because everyone has a unique bent of mind. On top of this, there are several influences in life which keeps the inner being of one in a dynamic state. So a guru-power to match that shade of uniqueness among million shades, sounds like that the power is tailor-made for one.

10. sguru asks about the Guru package as a follow up of the previous "Server" question. Having multiple Servers in the network does not mean that Guru package is installed, even if the "Other Servers" are personal gurus. Having Servers in the network may only indicate that appreciation of God has dawned in life. But are you committed in uplifting your own life spiritually? Have you found a guru-power within the Servers of the network? Does the form of the guru-power match your inclination so that you can use it? If yes, only then Guru-package is installed.

11. The disciple saying "Yes" to this question has brought a subtle turn to the whole dialog. This is because the disciple has now revealed that he is under an active guru-power. Hearing this sguru abstained from talking any further. sguru thought that when one is under an active guru-power, that power itself will guide him and the continuation of the dialog will be an interferance to that power.

12. The disciple understood this and also started contemplating. Was it proper for him to consult someone else when he is following a guru-power internally? Is it a disrespect for the guru-power revealed to him? Then the disciple thought about the initial intention of his starting the dialog and the way the dialog has proceeded so far.

13. There are two "Silences" shown in the above dialog to point to the above two separate contemplations. One from the side of sguru, the other from the side of the disciple. A change in the environment has also come in the dialog. Now sguru is seeing a guru-power behind the disciple. And the disciple after contemplating concluded that it is by the will of his guru-power that the dialog has proceeded so far, else it should have long concluded. So the disciple is also seeing the guru-power behind sguru. Thus both the Silences converged towards the guru-power.

14. Getting inner approval, the disciple prodded on and said: So?, although he was not sure whether sguru will reply.

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